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Cork 0-18 Kerry 2-09 FT
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Nice, great comeback by the sounds of it. 18 points is a big score to put up.0
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Great win - 18pts scored is a very good return from a game in Kerry0 -
Congrats lads, better team won tonight..even without Vaughan. 18 points is impressive shooting. Tipp waiting in the long grass so will be watching that with interest.
Hopefully we get to return the favour in Senior game in a few weeks.0 -
Ill be a while thawing out after that. Decent performance out of us. Placed balls were a serious problem and I think 6 went wide in the first half. Kerry were abysmal. Really poor. We gifted them the first goal and the ref gifted them the penalty for the second. Cadogan was stand out for me, a last minute introduction and but a few lovely scores over and was always showing for ball. The corner back on him wont sleep well tonight. The forwards as a unit probably tried to do too much at times when a point was on over but overplayed the ball. Midfield were solid out and fielded some lovely ball and the backs were solid apart from going to sleep for the first goal.
Overall a nice way to spend a Wednesday evening.
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No i would say a 100 per cent it was purley down to her own lifestyle,and commitment he could give and hes given 10 years of sublime service.
Last year he didnt start training even til late.
Nothing to do with Morale.Morale is fine in the camp,yeah theres a dissapointment and frustartion with the last 3 games,but i would be worried if there wasnt ,as they shouldnt be happy with the last 3 weeks.Performancets,simply not good enough.Antrim will play 4 forwards,a sweeper again.
Cork must realise that ,Accept and counter that.Crowley said management demand more of the players sunnday .
Fair point.But managenemt arent blameless,they must Accept and realise we have to play a possesion game against the sweeper.You cant demand more of players when there suffocated and outnumbered with a direct game against a sweeper system .
People can ask has Cunnighams ,absent had a huge effec ,yes he is such a top coach,it is going to affect us,but Kingston is a top coah also,and its not second season syndrome,just Teams have realised you play a game of Hurling to Cork you loose like dublin And kilkenny and tipp in the league found out,but you play a sweeper like galway 2012,Clare 4 times in 2013,and Limerick,laois and offaly you can win or in the latter cause us problems.
Thats the problem,our system .
The U21 Splendid Victory Against Kerry
What a match in tralee ,pretty much panned out as i said in the preview ,bar and im glad i was Wrong in we won.We got 18 points.Wonderful.If we had a full team ,it could have been a bigger win and a Good Refeee.
The referee and i said it could cost us and jesus its a testament to cork we again tralee beat them with a 16th man and down a key key player in Vaughan,and o driscoll nowhere near fit ,but immense credit to Brian for trying so gamely and playing a part .
And to beat them in kerry ,on points and they got two goals,they are fairly sick tonight and like i said,Darragh a tormentor to Cork many times as a great player on the field of play has now been tormened by cork in management and he is gone i would imagine as Manager.There
Is goin to be the Mother of all Post Mortems in kerry.They put everything,in to this game sinceJanuary and its a dissaster for them going forward as Cork have a huge mental siege metality at u21,we have better than them coming through.This is sweeter than 1000 sugar lumps and a candy bar put together .This will sicken them .
Most of what i said materalised,except Davis proved me wrong,he was very tight at the back.He was fine going forward,i said that tonight he was solid as a rock.
Dorman came in to the game in to 2nd half ,but he was in huge trouble by Crean who got two points and created a lot and o leary got a great goal when he was dragged out of position.In fact kerry could have had 3 goals as Martin ,i said was a super goalie made an awesome save.
The full back line was our weakest aera and the problem for kerry they didnt get enough ball in there ,but we have limerick in cork next week,should win i handy,but against tipp with quinlan and mcgrath they has to be changes as its too open at times.Cronin had a solid game .
Crowley .he wasnt good ,he wasnt brillant.He was fu **king out of this world ,awesome ,Man of the Matcgp by 1000 miles.What a talent.Everything i sard regards the lad he was.He had huge pressure in hes 1st u21 start .I said he was fine.He was more than fine.What a talent,what energy,tenacity,awarnenss,anthcaption ,and countless times he intercepted the final ball im to the full forward line ,as Hayes martermind sweeping system allowed crowley to shore up that zone between our full back line and half back line .
He drove forward at will,always a superb kickpass,a leader tonight ,and he is like i alwaxs said Destined for great things,could if starts with the seniors be young player of the year.He should go to 3,dorman to 6,and he is awesome.He plays Sunday v Mayo then Wed again,Cuthbhert must rest him after SUNDAY .Lads he is the next Ciaran o Sullivan .And u21 next year,guaranteed to be captain.
Sean white ,yes o leary ,got past him for the goal, but the man was awesome,superb man to tackle and kick a pass.Eligble next year also.We have some talent at half back.Has real pace.
Bod was okay ,but clearly hampered by injury .How he lasted a half and we won without him and Vaughan is beyond belief but huge credit to ,Management and the panel for winning.
Maguire was immense,he is a superb fielder and i didnt think Cork would,but they Dominated the Giant Murphy who bar a 15 minute spell was a bystander with keane.
Murphy was awesome and spoiled Murphy superbly.Kiely was superb around the middle ,with breaking ball.I find it strange he got taken of,was great kicking in the ball
Kiely isnt a big scorer ,but to get 3 points was manifgcent by him.He always plays well against kerry.Potential senior.
Sugrue was ,lile i said,strong,direct,great worked two great points when the need was greatest ,and he like i said went in full forward as a go to man to help Dan the man.He was superb in there.Superb off the ball.
Cian o sullivan,i said wouldnt last 50 more than minutes as he was there to do a specfic job .He lasted a half as due to the Shocking,shocking penalty ,Even in Basketball it wouldnt be a free-Cork were 3 down so they had to whip the lad of and go for broke ,kiely at 11 and sugrue to help Dan .
Cian was superb in closing down space ,running with the ball,helping the defence and was a key part ,cork dominated the ist half ,bar the penalty we would have been level than 3 down at half time .Expect the lad to feature against tipp.
Cadogan -5 points man of the match only that Crowley was Majestic.What a playeq.Temparment big games ,and superb.I worried re vaughan being absent ,where bar Dan would we get scores.I said Alan could do it but hes game last year he was inaccurate and a worry i had .Jesus he was unreal,wouldnt won without the lad.I have advocated he was and should be a senior hurler.
I had a fear in football with hes point scoring.He was superb.We missed Vaughan desperately in hes free taking and hes ,holding up of the play ,but Cadogan filled in the scoring awesomely.
DAN mac Eoin,god what a left foot.He got 3 gems,he has a lovely,really lovely left foot.They should make a Film of it.
He was superb,winning ball as Corks main Go Guy in the 1st half and laid of a lot of ball.Free taking wasnt great ,but that happens.What a workrate he had.Unreal.A senior player in the making and a real leader in this team
Harrington-didnt score ,but he played deep at half forward at times,worked tirelessly and with Cian,kept O se and Morley from attacking at will.
Corkey got a great point and was very good when he was on .With Vaughan fit,We have a bench.
Kavenagh had a great cameo,and Histon and Fulgnati played there parts as late subs,histom making one great interecption.
Sean hayes and Gene o Driscoll was awesome,i have since they got the jobs said they were superb men ,and Cork football at u21 had two great men in charge.Even if we lost i said we won Munster next year.
I rate them highely .They like i said in the preview played a system set up to get the best of the team,and they deserve Awesome credit to go to tralee beat them without two men,Oakes also out ,and against a hometown Referee.You always no when A referee knows he made a mistake,he then rectifys it with a soft free to your favour.After a woeful penalty ,cadogan wasnt fouled yet,free to Cork.I cost ye 3 points but I'll give ye one it was like.
Im not crticising him for the sake of it.In fairness i said my concerns today and yesterday before the match.
Our Midfield done better than i thought.Our Half back line was awesome.The full back line was a worry and still is.
Kerry half back line was very good for 50 minutes.
What won it for us was Economy of Possesion was better than Kerry even though they had better depth in subs.
Limerick next week and with respect to them we should win it handy .Tippereary are like i said the team to beat but at least we have them in Cork and that is for another day,tonight We must enjoy ,a wonderful Night For Cork football ,to win with an injury depeletd squad ,and to prolong Kerry Famine of going on 7 years without a badly needed Munster title is just Brillant.
Well done to All Involved.
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »No i would say a 100 per cent it was purley down to her own lifestyle,and commitment he could give and hes given 10 years of sublime service.
Last year he didnt start training even til late.
Nothing to do with Morale.Morale is fine in the camp,yeah theres a dissapointment and frustartion with the last 3 games,but i would be worried if there wasnt ,as they shouldnt be happy with the last 3 weeks.Performancets,simply not good enough.Antrim will play 4 forwards,a sweeper again.
Cork must realise that ,Accept and counter that.Crowley said management demand more of the players sunnday .
Fair point.But managenemt arent blameless,they must Accept and realise we have to play a possesion game against the sweeper.You cant demand more of players when there suffocated and outnumbered with a direct game against a sweeper system .
People can ask has Cunnighams ,absent had a huge effec ,yes he is such a top coach,it is going to affect us,but Kingston is a top coah also,and its not second season syndrome,just Teams have realised you play a game of Hurling to Cork you loose like dublin And kilkenny and tipp in the league found out,but you play a sweeper like galway 2012,Clare 4 times in 2013,and Limerick,laois and offaly you can win or in the latter cause us problems.
Thats the problem,our system .
The U21 Splendid Victory Against Kerry
What a match in tralee ,pretty much panned out as i said in the preview ,bar and im glad i was Wrong in we won.We got 18 points.Wonderful.If we had a full team ,it could have been a bigger win and a Good Refeee.
The referee and i said it could cost us and jesus its a testament to cork we again tralee beat them with a 16th man and down a key key player in Vaughan,and o driscoll nowhere near fit ,but immense credit to Brian for trying so gamely and playing a part .
And to beat them in kerry ,on points and they got two goals,they are fairly sick tonight and like i said,Darragh a tormentor to Cork many times as a great player on the field of play has now been tormened by cork in management and he is gone i would imagine as Manager.There
Is goin to be the Mother of all Post Mortems in kerry.They put everything,in to this game sinceJanuary and its a dissaster for them going forward as Cork have a huge mental siege metality at u21,we have better than them coming through.This is sweeter than 1000 sugar lumps and a candy bar put together .This will sicken them .
Most of what i said materalised,except Davis proved me wrong,he was very tight at the back.He was fine going forward,i said that tonight he was solid as a rock.
Dorman came in to the game in to 2nd half ,but he was in huge trouble by Crean who got two points and created a lot and o leary got a great goal when he was dragged out of position.In fact kerry could have had 3 goals as Martin ,i said was a super goalie made an awesome save.
The full back line was our weakest aera and the problem for kerry they didnt get enough ball in there ,but we have limerick in cork next week,should win i handy,but against tipp with quinlan and mcgrath they has to be changes as its too open at times.Cronin had a solid game .
Crowley .he wasnt good ,he wasnt brillant.He was fu **king out of this world ,awesome ,Man of the Matcgp by 1000 miles.What a talent.Everything i sard regards the lad he was.He had huge pressure in hes 1st u21 start .I said he was fine.He was more than fine.What a talent,what energy,tenacity,awarnenss,anthcaption ,and countless times he intercepted the final ball im to the full forward line ,as Hayes martermind sweeping system allowed crowley to shore up that zone between our full back line and half back line .
He drove forward at will,always a superb kickpass,a leader tonight ,and he is like i alwaxs said Destined for great things,could if starts with the seniors be young player of the year.He should go to 3,dorman to 6,and he is awesome.He plays Sunday v Mayo then Wed again,Cuthbhert must rest him after SUNDAY .Lads he is the next Ciaran o Sullivan .And u21 next year,guaranteed to be captain.
Sean white ,yes o leary ,got past him for the goal, but the man was awesome,superb man to tackle and kick a pass.Eligble next year also.We have some talent at half back.Has real pace.
Bod was okay ,but clearly hampered by injury .How he lasted a half and we won without him and Vaughan is beyond belief but huge credit to ,Management and the panel for winning.
Maguire was immense,he is a superb fielder and i didnt think Cork would,but they Dominated the Giant Murphy who bar a 15 minute spell was a bystander with keane.
Murphy was awesome and spoiled Murphy superbly.Kiely was superb around the middle ,with breaking ball.I find it strange he got taken of,was great kicking in the ball
Kiely isnt a big scorer ,but to get 3 points was manifgcent by him.He always plays well against kerry.Potential senior.
Sugrue was ,lile i said,strong,direct,great worked two great points when the need was greatest ,and he like i said went in full forward as a go to man to help Dan the man.He was superb in there.Superb off the ball.
Cian o sullivan,i said wouldnt last 50 more than minutes as he was there to do a specfic job .He lasted a half as due to the Shocking,shocking penalty ,Even in Basketball it wouldnt be a free-Cork were 3 down so they had to whip the lad of and go for broke ,kiely at 11 and sugrue to help Dan .
Cian was superb in closing down space ,running with the ball,helping the defence and was a key part ,cork dominated the ist half ,bar the penalty we would have been level than 3 down at half time .Expect the lad to feature against tipp.
Cadogan -5 points man of the match only that Crowley was Majestic.What a playeq.Temparment big games ,and superb.I worried re vaughan being absent ,where bar Dan would we get scores.I said Alan could do it but hes game last year he was inaccurate and a worry i had .Jesus he was unreal,wouldnt won without the lad.I have advocated he was and should be a senior hurler.
I had a fear in football with hes point scoring.He was superb.We missed Vaughan desperately in hes free taking and hes ,holding up of the play ,but Cadogan filled in the scoring awesomely.
DAN mac Eoin,god what a left foot.He got 3 gems,he has a lovely,really lovely left foot.They should make a Film of it.
He was superb,winning ball as Corks main Go Guy in the 1st half and laid of a lot of ball.Free taking wasnt great ,but that happens.What a workrate he had.Unreal.A senior player in the making and a real leader in this team
Harrington-didnt score ,but he played deep at half forward at times,worked tirelessly and with Cian,kept O se and Morley from attacking at will.
Corkey got a great point and was very good when he was on .With Vaughan fit,We have a bench.
Kavenagh had a great cameo,and Histon and Fulgnati played there parts as late subs,histom making one great interecption.
Sean hayes and Gene o Driscoll was awesome,i have since they got the jobs said they were superb men ,and Cork football at u21 had two great men in charge.Even if we lost i said we won Munster next year.
I rate them highely .They like i said in the preview played a system set up to get the best of the team,and they deserve Awesome credit to go to tralee beat them without two men,Oakes also out ,and against a hometown Referee.You always no when A referee knows he made a mistake,he then rectifys it with a soft free to your favour.After a woeful penalty ,cadogan wasnt fouled yet,free to Cork.I cost ye 3 points but I'll give ye one it was like.
Im not crticising him for the sake of it.In fairness i said my concerns today and yesterday before the match.
Our Midfield done better than i thought.Our Half back line was awesome.The full back line was a worry and still is.
Kerry half back line was very good for 50 minutes.
What won it for us was Economy of Possesion was better than Kerry even though they had better depth in subs.
Limerick next week and with respect to them we should win it handy .Tippereary are like i said the team to beat but at least we have them in Cork and that is for another day,tonight We must enjoy ,a wonderful Night For Cork football ,to win with an injury depeletd squad ,and to prolong Kerry Famine of going on 7 years without a badly needed Munster title is just Brillant.
Well done to All Involved.
The Munster Champions play Connaught in a Semi final
Roscommon beat Mayo .
Why can't you write proper sentences? Your staccato style is like you are sending home telegrams from a far flung war. Would you read a newspaper that was written like that?0 -
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Buyingcar2012 wrote: »Why can't you write proper sentences? Your staccato style is like you are sending home telegrams from a far flung war. Would you read a newspaper that was written like that?
Everybody has their own style of writing.
Some are easy to read, some harder....and some use words like 'staccato';)0 -
What's with all the criticism of Thinkstoomuch and his writing. There seems to be a few people now who are getting at the guy for the way he writes. If you don't like it, then don't bloody read it. Honestly, what's your problem? Are you perfect yourselfBuyingcar2012 wrote: »Why can't you write proper sentences? Your staccato style is like you are sending home telegrams from a far flung war. Would you read a newspaper that was written like that?0 -
His writing I'd get over, but he can be very dismissive and patronising of people with contrary views to his own.Archer3083 wrote: »What's with all the criticism of Thinkstoomuch and his writing. There seems to be a few people now who are getting at the guy for the way he writes. If you don't like it, then don't bloody read it. Honestly, what's your problem? Are you perfect yourself
Saying that, I feel I was a bit harsh with my comments the other day. He does add to the forum in his own unique way.0 -
Archer3083 wrote: »What's with all the criticism of Thinkstoomuch and his writing. There seems to be a few people now who are getting at the guy for the way he writes. If you don't like it, then don't bloody read it. Honestly, what's your problem? Are you perfect yourself
Thats not the 1st time he has swarmed in to snipe.
He doesnt know much about gaa and has nothing better to do now that swarm like a magpie and pounce on posts.
Wouldnt worry bout him,he soon get bored.
I wouldnt waste my time replying to people like him.0 -
Great win back in Kerry especially without Cathal Vaughan. Perhaps he will be left out next week v Limerick also in a bid to have him right for Tipperary in the final. Same could go for Brian O'Driscoll0
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The key for the Limerick game is sort out the full back line .As that is a problem.Cork may be okay with Dorman if he stays with Quinlan,he he has the height for the lad.The limerick game is just a warm up for the tipp game
But power guranteed ,will try and put liam mcgrath who is lethal on him.Cronin for Mcgrath. I hope Crowley doesnt get injured ,against Mayo,vital to the team.Shouldnt be playing after sunday .
O driscoll i heard needs a week,so start histon next week .Sugrue had a shoulder injury and was a doubt for last night.He was the third injury ,i didnt name that i said we had on the kerry thread a few days ago.
Killan o connor should get a game.
Vaughan will be assesed after training Monday i was told,but likely to start and he needs a run out before the tipp game.
Midfield is going to be a huge battle,the awesome Colin o riordan,a powerhose at midfield in hurling and fooball,played harty and corn u mhuiri ,he has been earlier with O brien at midfield exended tipp senior hurling panel earler the year.
He had trials in afl in ireland in the winter.Tipps version of Darragh o se.Im a huge huge fan of the ad,has a great attuide and hunger and a want and a Desire and a huge will to win.Saw him last year in a harty cup game,and i was in awe of the lad.
Magure and Murphy v them two should be a reat match up .
Tippereary have seamus kennedy in there at centre back .
Tipp had a good workout in the hasting cup in the winter ,and won a shield final i think they beat meath.
They had 9 starters last night of 2011 minor team.Power is a great manager and pat flanganan of kerry is training them.
They have beaten Donegal and Destsoyed Galway in challenge games.
Cork beat galway but it was closer in lit grounds around 8 weeks ago .
Cork beat kildare,clare and down .
Tipp want revenge last year loss to cork in the munster final and even though its in cork tipp ,beat us in the minor there down the years and hammered us in killarney in 20113
They will be huge favourites so ,we its ideal for us.
Course i want to win 25th munster And equal Kerry but if do get beaten,i wnt be gutted,as we beat kerry and kept then quiet for another year and id rather loose to tipp than kerry.If tipp win munster i want them to go all the way .If kerry had won id be hoping they got beat the next day.
Kerry are more of a threat at senior.
Crowley,white,o driscoll with Maguire ,are eligble next year ,and throw in peter kelliher and we are strong in the middle third.
Histon and martin are eligble with Kavanagh i think,throw in killian o connor,and Ryan harkin and Michael hurley the core of a team is there.
Kerry have 5 of last night team with at least 13 avaible next year.
Roscommon i say could win connaught ,and they ran cork all the way last year in a challenge game with a good few of last night team last year.0 -
TTM . You are a fountain of knowledge. Any insight in to the minor football prospects by Leeside this year.
Havent seen as much as i would like.
From what i heard ,it doesnt sound great.
Must start watching them-very hard to with u21,sen4or and schools game on the 29th all ireland final.
Midelton won there u15 game monday against de la salle.Cork have the talent.Coaching is the key.
Kerry with jack will win munster at the very least.
Management dont inspire me.
I said it last year we had a fine u21 football and minor hurling set up.
Minor football and u21 hurling doesnt inspire me at all,particuiary the u21 hurling with what heard and saw.
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Ist year in Hayes and Gene have taken like ducks to water to the u21.I saw Gene last thursday train them and hes training like i said was superb,all at pace ,knew what he was doing and had huge belief in the lads to try things.If vaughan was starting would have went for goals.
Martin is a super goalie,and him ,casey,rossier ,and the other lad had a rigour full hour sesion with the Goalkeeping coach the lad from Dublin.
It doesnt suprise me ,that Martin made a superb double save,as they are trained to do that.Save a shot with one in front them,then up for the rebound or turn to field a high ball from a lad standing behind them.
I advocated strongly ,Gene should have been a selector with cuthbhert.He would have been ideal.
The u21 success is awesome and its simple appoint leahy,cleary and hayes top coaches and thet rest takes care of itself even on the back of woeful minor resuits.I so wish the County board would appoint the same mantra at u21 hurling.If we did we would be succesful.
The u21 team near has martin,cronin,crowleywhite ,Bod,maguire,Murphy , Vaughan ,kavanagh ,O connor involved from this year eligble next year.
Throw in Kevin flahive ,Kingston,kevin O Nelll,Quinn(on this year extended panel),hamiltons superb michael MICHAel macsweeny at full back in the hurling ,could play there in the football ,Trevor Horgan,Michael Hurley (as good if not better than Brian)Ryan Harkin(trained this set up for a bit)Jack bushe ,and the two moyinhans and Cork have a serious team next year .
Jack lyons of Valley,a minor this year i think ,is such a talent ,he could do a sean white,ian maguire straight out of minor in to u21.A savage talent.
The future is great,thats why it is imperative we make it count at Senior and next year sort the minor team out when The two year term is up.
Peter kelliher is a certainty next year,and with Maguire and Murphy what a midfield we have .
Michael cahalane i am told will play u21 football next year as he wont have school or harty cup clashing with training .
He could do that and still senior Hurling with cork .
I cant wait to see How kerry react to this dissaster and Is o se ? Gone id say he is and who replaces the man .0 -
Meant to post this during the week but if anyone wants a ticket to club all Irelands on paddys day give me a pm.
Genuine fans only and obviously free to a good home. Must be able to collect in fermoy/Mitchelstown area 0 -
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The Cork Senior Football team to play Mayo on Sunday at 2.30pm in McHale Park, Castlebar, will line out as follows:
1. Ken O'Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr's - Captain)
3. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
4. Kevin Crowley (Millstreet)
5. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
6. Tom Clancy (Clonakilty)
7. Alan Cronin (Nemo Rangers)
8. Andrew O'Sullivan (Castletownbere)
9. Aidan Walsh (Kanturk)
10. Colm O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCárthaigh)
11. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
12. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
13. Colm O'Neill (Ballyclough)
14. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
15. Donncha O'Connor (Ballydesmond)
Subs
16. David Hanrahan (Douglas)
17. John McLoughlin (Kanturk)
18. James Loughrey (Mallow)
19. Kevin O'Driscoll (Tadhg MacCárthaigh)
20. Fintan Goold (Macroom)
21. Micheál O Laoire (Naomh Abán)
22. Barry O'Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
23. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
24. John O'Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
25. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
26. Daniel Goulding (Eire Óg)
Brian Cuthbert has made eight changes for Sunday's game. U21s Conor Dorman and Kevin Crowley are in, while Tom Clancy returns from illness. Eoin Cadogan and Aidan Walsh return, having been on hurling duty last weekend, while there's a start for Colm O'Driscoll. Donncha O'Connor returns to the full forward line, and following two substitute appearances, Colm O'Neill gets his first start of the year. The eight players to lose out, James Loughrey, John O'Rourke, John Hayes, Daniel Goulding, John McLoughlin, Kevin O'Driscoll, Mark Collins and Fintan Goold are all named in the substitues.
Patrick Kelly and Damien Cahalane will play club games this weekend. Jamie O'Sullivan, Noel Galvin and Donal Og Hodnett continue their recovery from injury. Ruairi Deane, who has suffered a torn cruciate, met his surgeon this week and began a rehab programme. He will meet him again in four weeks to check progress and determine the next course of action.0 -
Buyingcar2012 wrote: »Why can't you write proper sentences? Your staccato style is like you are sending home telegrams from a far flung war. Would you read a newspaper that was written like that?
Read them or skip them.The man wrote a detailed account of the match which is a lot more than you have contributed with your sniping.Just scroll down the page if your bothered that much.Cork 1990 All Ireland Senior Hurling and Football Champions
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »No i would say a 100 per cent it was purley down to her own lifestyle,and commitment he could give and hes given 10 years of sublime service.
Last year he didnt start training even til late.
Nothing to do with Morale.Morale is fine in the camp,yeah theres a dissapointment and frustartion with the last 3 games,but i would be worried if there wasnt ,as they shouldnt be happy with the last 3 weeks.Performancets,simply not good enough.Antrim will play 4 forwards,a sweeper again.
Cork must realise that ,Accept and counter that.Crowley said management demand more of the players sunnday .
Fair point.But managenemt arent blameless,they must Accept and realise we have to play a possesion game against the sweeper.You cant demand more of players when there suffocated and outnumbered with a direct game against a sweeper system .
People can ask has Cunnighams ,absent had a huge effec ,yes he is such a top coach,it is going to affect us,but Kingston is a top coah also,and its not second season syndrome,just Teams have realised you play a game of Hurling to Cork you loose like dublin And kilkenny and tipp in the league found out,but you play a sweeper like galway 2012,Clare 4 times in 2013,and Limerick,laois and offaly you can win or in the latter cause us problems.
Thats the problem,our system .
The U21 Splendid Victory Against Kerry
What a match in tralee ,pretty much panned out as i said in the preview ,bar and im glad i was Wrong in we won.We got 18 points.Wonderful.If we had a full team ,it could have been a bigger win and a Good Refeee.
The referee and i said it could cost us and jesus its a testament to cork we again tralee beat them with a 16th man and down a key key player in Vaughan,and o driscoll nowhere near fit ,but immense credit to Brian for trying so gamely and playing a part .
And to beat them in kerry ,on points and they got two goals,they are fairly sick tonight and like i said,Darragh a tormentor to Cork many times as a great player on the field of play has now been tormened by cork in management and he is gone i would imagine as Manager.There
Is goin to be the Mother of all Post Mortems in kerry.They put everything,in to this game sinceJanuary and its a dissaster for them going forward as Cork have a huge mental siege metality at u21,we have better than them coming through.This is sweeter than 1000 sugar lumps and a candy bar put together .This will sicken them .
Most of what i said materalised,except Davis proved me wrong,he was very tight at the back.He was fine going forward,i said that tonight he was solid as a rock.
Dorman came in to the game in to 2nd half ,but he was in huge trouble by Crean who got two points and created a lot and o leary got a great goal when he was dragged out of position.In fact kerry could have had 3 goals as Martin ,i said was a super goalie made an awesome save.
The full back line was our weakest aera and the problem for kerry they didnt get enough ball in there ,but we have limerick in cork next week,should win i handy,but against tipp with quinlan and mcgrath they has to be changes as its too open at times.Cronin had a solid game .
Crowley .he wasnt good ,he wasnt brillant.He was fu **king out of this world ,awesome ,Man of the Matcgp by 1000 miles.What a talent.Everything i sard regards the lad he was.He had huge pressure in hes 1st u21 start .I said he was fine.He was more than fine.What a talent,what energy,tenacity,awarnenss,anthcaption ,and countless times he intercepted the final ball im to the full forward line ,as Hayes martermind sweeping system allowed crowley to shore up that zone between our full back line and half back line .
He drove forward at will,always a superb kickpass,a leader tonight ,and he is like i alwaxs said Destined for great things,could if starts with the seniors be young player of the year.He should go to 3,dorman to 6,and he is awesome.He plays Sunday v Mayo then Wed again,Cuthbhert must rest him after SUNDAY .Lads he is the next Ciaran o Sullivan .And u21 next year,guaranteed to be captain.
Sean white ,yes o leary ,got past him for the goal, but the man was awesome,superb man to tackle and kick a pass.Eligble next year also.We have some talent at half back.Has real pace.
Bod was okay ,but clearly hampered by injury .How he lasted a half and we won without him and Vaughan is beyond belief but huge credit to ,Management and the panel for winning.
Maguire was immense,he is a superb fielder and i didnt think Cork would,but they Dominated the Giant Murphy who bar a 15 minute spell was a bystander with keane.
Murphy was awesome and spoiled Murphy superbly.Kiely was superb around the middle ,with breaking ball.I find it strange he got taken of,was great kicking in the ball
Kiely isnt a big scorer ,but to get 3 points was manifgcent by him.He always plays well against kerry.Potential senior.
Sugrue was ,lile i said,strong,direct,great worked two great points when the need was greatest ,and he like i said went in full forward as a go to man to help Dan the man.He was superb in there.Superb off the ball.
Cian o sullivan,i said wouldnt last 50 more than minutes as he was there to do a specfic job .He lasted a half as due to the Shocking,shocking penalty ,Even in Basketball it wouldnt be a free-Cork were 3 down so they had to whip the lad of and go for broke ,kiely at 11 and sugrue to help Dan .
Cian was superb in closing down space ,running with the ball,helping the defence and was a key part ,cork dominated the ist half ,bar the penalty we would have been level than 3 down at half time .Expect the lad to feature against tipp.
Cadogan -5 points man of the match only that Crowley was Majestic.What a playeq.Temparment big games ,and superb.I worried re vaughan being absent ,where bar Dan would we get scores.I said Alan could do it but hes game last year he was inaccurate and a worry i had .Jesus he was unreal,wouldnt won without the lad.I have advocated he was and should be a senior hurler.
I had a fear in football with hes point scoring.He was superb.We missed Vaughan desperately in hes free taking and hes ,holding up of the play ,but Cadogan filled in the scoring awesomely.
DAN mac Eoin,god what a left foot.He got 3 gems,he has a lovely,really lovely left foot.They should make a Film of it.
He was superb,winning ball as Corks main Go Guy in the 1st half and laid of a lot of ball.Free taking wasnt great ,but that happens.What a workrate he had.Unreal.A senior player in the making and a real leader in this team
Harrington-didnt score ,but he played deep at half forward at times,worked tirelessly and with Cian,kept O se and Morley from attacking at will.
Corkey got a great point and was very good when he was on .With Vaughan fit,We have a bench.
Kavenagh had a great cameo,and Histon and Fulgnati played there parts as late subs,histom making one great interecption.
Sean hayes and Gene o Driscoll was awesome,i have since they got the jobs said they were superb men ,and Cork football at u21 had two great men in charge.Even if we lost i said we won Munster next year.
I rate them highely .They like i said in the preview played a system set up to get the best of the team,and they deserve Awesome credit to go to tralee beat them without two men,Oakes also out ,and against a hometown Referee.You always no when A referee knows he made a mistake,he then rectifys it with a soft free to your favour.After a woeful penalty ,cadogan wasnt fouled yet,free to Cork.I cost ye 3 points but I'll give ye one it was like.
Im not crticising him for the sake of it.In fairness i said my concerns today and yesterday before the match.
Our Midfield done better than i thought.Our Half back line was awesome.The full back line was a worry and still is.
Kerry half back line was very good for 50 minutes.
What won it for us was Economy of Possesion was better than Kerry even though they had better depth in subs.
Limerick next week and with respect to them we should win it handy .Tippereary are like i said the team to beat but at least we have them in Cork and that is for another day,tonight We must enjoy ,a wonderful Night For Cork football ,to win with an injury depeletd squad ,and to prolong Kerry Famine of going on 7 years without a badly needed Munster title is just Brillant.
Well done to All Involved.
The Munster Champions play Connaught in a Semi final
Roscommon beat Mayo .
At times I wonder were you at the same game.
Agree on Davis.
Bar the goal, Dorman did very well.
Cronin did ok at times but in a lot of trouble as well.Kerry 13 gave him a torrid enough time.
Crowley was brilliant but how could you play him at 3. Its funny to even think of it. I wont say no more.
White was good, caught for first goal aswell but made up for it. He wasnt awesome though.
Darragh Murphy awesome ? He got taken off at half time, gave the ball away on several occasions. Darragh Murphy didnt play on Kieran Murphy as you said.
Kiely wasnt taken off even though you said he was.
O'Sullivan - a key player?? He touched the ball 4/5 times in the whole half. one good ball to Dan but that was it. As a centre forward you need to be more prominent.
Cadogan - brilliant. Lucky he ended up starting.
Histon didnt come on either.0 -
http://www.corkgaa.ie/news/306009/Cork_Senior_Hurling_Team_to_Play_Antrim_on_Sunday
The Cork Senior Hurling team to play Antrim in the Allianz League Division 1B on Sunday at 2pm in Ballycastle will line out as follows:
1. Darren Mc Carthy (Ballymartle)
2. Stephen Mc Donnell (Glen Rovers)
3. Eoin Keane (St. Finbarr’s)
4. Kilian Murphy (Erin’s Own)
5. Stephen White (Ballygarvan)
6. Christopher Joyce (Na Piarsaigh)
7. William Egan (Kilbrin)
8. Lorcán Mc Loughlin (Kanturk)
9. Patrick Cronin (Bishopstown)
10. Brian Lawton (Castlemartyr)
11. Seamus Harnedy (St. Itas)
12. Daniel Kearney (Sarsfields)
13. Patrick Horgan (Glen Rovers)
14. Conor Lehane (Midleton)
15. Brian Hartnett (Midleton)
Subs
Anthony Nash (Kanturk)
Colm Spillane (Castlelyons)
Rob O’Shea (Carrigaline)
Killian Burke (Midleton)
Paul Haughney (Midleton)
Stephen Moylan (Douglas)
Michael O’Sullivan (Tracton)
Jamie Coughlan (Newtownshandrum)
Cian McCarthy (Sarsfields)
There are six changes to the Cork team for Sunday’s encounter. Darren McCarthy replaces Anthony Nash in goal, while Stephen White and Christopher Joyce come into the defence, replacing Eoin Cadogan, who is with the footballers this weekend, and Shane O’Neill, who is on exam leave. Captain Patrick Cronin starts at mid-field in place of Rob O’Shea, while there are first starts of the season for Brian Hartnett and newcomer Brian Lawton, replacing Aidan Walsh, who is also on football duty, and Stephen Moylan in attack.
Alan Cadogan was not considered for selection due to his involvement with the Cork U21 footballers, while Mark Ellis is injured. Luke O'Farrell has had surgery on a shoulder injury and will be out for a number of weeks.0 -
The full back line I'm happy with just cause I want to see how Keane does at 3 even if it is against Antrim.
I've said it before but Stephen White just isn't up to this level, he won't get exposed at the weekend but as we've seen time and again he's just too ill disciplined and always likely to do something rash.
That midfield looks slow and cumbersome but Cronin needs gametime right now but particularly partnering lorcan there its just not an option come championship and I really dunno why it's being tried.
Brian Lawton deserves his chance there, I liked the look of him when he came on against Offaly, showed some nice touches and would like to see more of him and he'll learn a lot from Harnedy alongside him.
The full forward line with lehane and bud just doesn't look right to me at all. It's getting annoying to see lehane being maintained at full forward and bud hartnett might do well against Antrim but in my view he's lucky to be on the panel but that's just me.
Overall I wouldn't say Antrim will be petrified of that lineup. We need scores and lots of them so it'll be interesting to see if we can really put Antrim away, something we seem to find very hard to do to teams we should absolutely be doing a number on.0 -
Thinkstoomuch1, Some knowledge, how in the name of God do u get around to so many matches, training etc.0
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You right re histon.I was wrong with that.My mistake.I would still start him in the game v limerick.
Murphy ,i mentimed same line as ,Kiely,i was referring to.Murphy shouldnt been taken off and he got on a load of ball ,and i was told today by a poster here the radio said he was even harshy taken of.
Dorman was in huge trouble ,at times ,and i would play crowley at 3 as he is simply is better than dorman at 3.I gave plenty reasons why.
White was awesome bar like i said the goal he was at fault for.
Did you need read what i said before and after the game re sullivan.He was there not to score,he was there to do a specfic role ,and as a i said off the ball more than on the ball ,and not to judge him on scoring etc .
Do me the courtsey as well of not running with the hare and chasing with the hound when it suits regards me please.
In you were fast enough to personal message me last week 3 times ,with who was the cork lad injured after training and then a second time who were the other injuries and you asked me my thoughts regard the game and who would replace them.Send me pm ,you want ,don't be suprised when i dont reply.Lads here and others on other threads have many times pm me,and i have always helped where i could.
But lad with respect you bite the hand and then want to be fed from the same hand.
Why do you think i only replied once and i was courteus to give you the info you wanted re two injured players the ist time ,in fairness to me.
Thats your opinon ,your entilted to it regard my posts..But please when i make a huge effort to go watch lads train,asking me for info when your fast to disgard my posts,im hardly going to have you as a priority .And not even a hi,or thanks or please .One minute my info is wrong ,yet then your asking me for info .
Your obivously so well up on Cork you shouldnt be pm me for info then regards the team etc in the 1st place as your quick to point when you think im wrong
You want your cake and eat it.
Is it any wonder i only replied to one of your messages and i only told you that info as it was common knowlege in cork .
So please dont be pm in future regards information.I post my thoughts here for everyone.I am not going to provide you with a personal service with respect.
As regards Cork,great keane is at 3.
White and cronin at 9 ,kearney at 12,and lehane at 14,with Bud at 15,in a wet heavy ptich against a massed antrim defence wont win dirty ball ,that team will win,but struggle to win by 10 or more .
Maybee kearney is a sweeper,lehane at 12,but bud wont score in a two man line .Cronin is fine but awaste time playing him at 9,when he cant play in the championship there...O shea has a fine game dropped ,yet then cronin and mclouglin,we know as a partnership from past game what they bring .A poor team in truth to what we could have had .
That team is very unbalanced.
Great to see burke called back.Was in the panel,then of it now hes back.0 -
Brass monkey cold in Tralee last night!
Think the public address man said around 3,400 people in the crowd.....my maths wouldnt be the best but i'd have said closer to 5000! Stand was packed by 7pm! Big Cork crowd down for it,great to see.
The ref was shocking,knew going down he'd be bad,hes always bad,and he'll remain that way unless he goes away and studies the rule book. Cork players on numerous occassions last night jumping for high ball with Kerry lads on their backs,or bending their back to clean lift the ball and a boot coming in from a Kerry player,all ignored by the ref.
And a penalty awarded closer to the centre of the pitch than the goalmouth!
Awful.....
Martin was solid throughout,that save towards the end was top drawer stuff,kept us in the game at a time when we were looking shaky!
The back line scares me,has to be said.
Davis was poor for the first 15mins,he grew into it as the game progressed and once he started to link up play he was good going forward.
Dorman though looks very dodgy under a dropping ball,and Cronin in my eyes was destroyed by his marker. Time and time again his man either created scores or took them himself.
Half back line was alot better,Driscoll had a great second half,as did White,Crowley was immense,looked every part the Senior player he is.
Maguire was my man of the match,just shaded Crowley,he was unreal,from ball winning to distribution,tackling,tracking back,reading of the game,has to be on the senior panel asap!
Cadogan played a blinder up front,delighted for him,and Corkery really ran at tired Kerry legs towards the end.
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »You right re histon.I was wrong with that.My mistake.I would still start him in the game v limerick.
Murphy ,i mentimed same line as ,Kiely,i was referring to.Murphy shouldnt been taken off and he got on a load of ball ,and i was told today by a poster here the radio said he was even harshy taken of.
Dorman was in huge trouble ,at times ,and i would play crowley at 3 as he is simply is better than dorman at 3.I gave plenty reasons why.
White was awesome bar like i said the goal he was at fault for.
Did you need read what i said before and after the game re sullivan.He was there not to score,he was there to do a specfic role ,and as a i said off the ball more than on the ball ,and not to judge him on scoring etc .
Do me the courtsey as well of not running with the hare and chasing with the hound when it suits regards me please.
In you were fast enough to personal message me last week 3 times ,with who was the cork lad injured after training and then a second time who were the other injuries and you asked me my thoughts regard the game and who would replace them.Send me pm ,you want ,don't be suprised when i dont reply.Lads here and others on other threads have many times pm me,and i have always helped where i could.
But lad with respect you bite the hand and then want to be fed from the same hand.
Why do you think i only replied once and i was courteus to give you the info you wanted re two injured players the ist time ,in fairness to me.
Thats your opinon ,your entilted to it regard my posts..But please when i make a huge effort to go watch lads train,asking me for info when your fast to disgard my posts,im hardly going to have you as a priority .And not even a hi,or thanks or please .One minute my info is wrong ,yet then your asking me for info .
Your obivously so well up on Cork you shouldnt be pm me for info then regards the team etc in the 1st place as your quick to point when you think im wrong
You want your cake and eat it.
Is it any wonder i only replied to one of your messages and i only told you that info as it was common knowlege in cork .
So please dont be pm in future regards information.I post my thoughts here for everyone.I am not going to provide you with a personal service with respect.
As regards Cork,great keane is at 3.
White and cronin at 9 ,kearney at 12,and lehane at 14,with Bud at 15,in a wet heavy ptich against a massed antrim defence wont win dirty ball ,that team will win,but struggle to win by 10 or more .
Maybee kearney is a sweeper,lehane at 12,but bud wont score in a two man line .Cronin is fine but awaste time playing him at 9,when he cant play in the championship there...O shea has a fine game dropped ,yet then cronin and mclouglin,we know as a partnership from past game what they bring .A poor team in truth to what we could have had .
That team is very unbalanced.
Great to see burke called back.Was in the panel,then of it now hes back.
Didnt say anything about O'Sullivan scoring or not. Not sure if running off the ball is enough of a contribution. Should be involved more in the play really. They had to make a change at half time so it was going to be him more than likely.
On the pm, not expecting a reply but since you didnt post here, thought you might through PM.
Just like everyone else here, dont have time to go trainings, challenge games etc, dont have inside knowledge so will get information in anyway possible like everyone else.0 -
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Thats not the 1st time he has swarmed in to snipe.
He doesnt know much about gaa and has nothing better to do now that swarm like a magpie and pounce on posts.
Wouldnt worry bout him,he soon get bored.
I wouldnt waste my time replying to people like him.
How would you know of my knowledge levels regarding the GAA? I've played it to a very highly level.
I get the impression that you go to lots of games and are well informed. My criticism is regarding your style of writing. It's a shame as the content has plenty of in depth knowledge but it's too frustrating to wade through.0
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