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You would have to wonder about things.there we are with development squads at underage, young fellas training 3 nights a week in cork, lads deferring their leaving if they are close to the minor team and now we parachute a fella into intercounty midfield with no previous inter county experience and wasnt even looked at underage.not saying any thing about him its just that if they were developing players they should have a list of elite players who have benifited from this extra training and perfoming at a higher level.I suspect that underage intercounty mentors are actually only just trying to get a win on their watch and are doing f all developing and are prepared to destroy players to get their win.you would hear ancedotal evidence that players go backwards when they are involved with county setups0
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »A lot I agree with,some I take issue with
That u16 team is well coached ,and is team that has a huge chance in september.
Both real,hard ,gritty,lots of hurling in them.Hurlers but warriors inside.Two great talents I have huge faith in .
Harrington was awesome ,team got beat,b team .A limerick selector told me after,hugely taken by hes display.
Aherne is a fine talent .Strong and works hard,great on a beaten b team.Hes living in mallow I believe but going to Ag mhuhre.People are na piarsaigh,but moved to the mallow aera,l
Rock is a good coach and doing good with them.
I wouldnt judge lads soley on easter camp today ,or during week as ,that is just against cork lads .Real real intensity is next wknd mallow and in tipp I think when the 16 and 17 a and b plays in inter divisonal intercounty comp against west clare ,north tipp etc.i go to the a or b games .
That u16 team is a fine team ,and 9 aprox limerck lads cork a beat ,beat clare u16 last week .Thats how good our lads are .
I agree we need physical hurlers,but musnt comprimse on the skill level .
We have a great blend of both here and at minor .
Young Aherne starred for the Na Parsaigh minor's in todays championship game this morning starting at midfield due to numerous injuries in the Na Parsaigh side he gave an inspired preformance in the first half totally dominating the midfield area until he visibly tired 10 mins in to the second half. Huge work rate and brilliant on the ball. he contributed hansomely to the Na Parsaigh win. Dayne lee was outstanding in the half forward line netting a super solo goal. As a douglas supporter I would not like to meet this outfit later in the year as they are improving with each outing even though we caught them last week0 -
Look Lads so much talent coming like all these lads mentioned.... Butty ,landers,Lonney , symth and billy Dunne still there and even this years u15s are last years tony forristal champs . This years minors are good next years are even better . You couldn't really pick the team0
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Valid points keep going,but Sean Dinneen is 24 and wouldnt of been with any development squads in truth back in 2007.
Typical cork when ist one was launched.,it was not great and we had to re change the structure and then got it better in doing what other counties did and ,saw how it worked and learned from them.
Yes they done that ,in 2nd time but again hadnt the foresight to measure twice and cut once,and get it spot on the 1st time .
As far as im aware Pat mulchay newtownshandrum done a complete overview of devlopment structures in cork ages ago and offered to give to cork but they didnt take it on board.
Unlike clare who listened to jamesie o connor And seanie mcgrath review that transformed clares development squads we didnt take advice from lads that knew what they talked about.
The other problem is our minors,have in majority had sub standard managers that werent great ,so real talent was missed.
In dinneens case ,that wasnt there fault to be fair as ,he wasnt able to commit to it.
Na piarsaigh ,to other poster,thanks info today ,yeah said it in october and many times na piarsaigh fine talent ,on the way ug ,in o connell goalie,dayne lee,guest and two Gunning lads eddie and centre forward ,Daniel ,and ahern etc are good talents.
At senior with mannix ,gould(would be cork senior bar injury)gardiner,moyinhan,buckley(u21 team this year)ian macdonnell,moyinhan ,win a senior county in 3 years.
As for douglas ,ye have some talent lad,kingston bros,dolan,ward mark o connor ,etc ,a lof of great talent.
Mr douglas,eddie murphy ,work last 20 years paying off at schools.
I said it many times huge fan mark dolan ,nearest thing I saw joe deame,not just yellow helmet .
Id say in a few years with cadogans there ye could rattle a county.Yere like midelton ,work paying of at underage
What yere footballs like with Tony leen the kerryman now with ye????
How is Mark O Connor after the hip injury??
In relation to the u16 there is a lad Sage with kilworth ,real real talent,expect lad feature before year is out.He has lovely balance and ,balance of feet,a strong lad ,just watch the lad hurl.You dont have to say much.Oozes class .Inter divisional intercounty this weekend,should be good.AS kalou said talent is there .
Macarthy of carrig is a sublime talent.Man of the match against kikenny cbs imo.
Manley,macdonnell,ian cahill are live talents for next year with Halloran ,kingston,declan dalton also in that mix.
Ring and landers will be in year two and get the best of them.
I say it again ,our real worry ,that people seem to ignore is u21,a key ,key path to Senior Success.
North cork star,horse 84 id say are aware of the kiltworth lad.There in that aera.
Last year
Cork hurlers 3-15 to 1-17 beat limerick challenge may 4th kilworth
may12th cork beat tipp cloughduv 5-15 to 3-21
Then june 4th ,a midweek eveining game cork lost 1-14 to 1-18 to galway in mallow .
That was the last game as Cork played championship on the 23rd june .
Cork relegation play off game league v clare was april 14th last year but were out this year 4 weeks earlier.
We played our last league game 3 weeks ago ,had limerick last night ,now go to knowlan park v wexford,and its likely to be the final game v dubs week after in portlaoise.We had 3 challenge games last year in the lead up to championship then,3 this year ,in a shorter time frame.Thats good imo.
What is striking and is great is that last year we had 3 home challenges matches.
This year we went outside the comfort zone ,and going to knowlan park and portlaoise against wexford and dubs getting ready for there game is a good test as you learn nothing at home.
We had a good win without ten key lads last eveining against a strong limerick team,however limerick were in truth flat as a pancake ,and were naive in there tactics so ,dublin and wexford is better tests and those teams have unity and direction .
Our worries are 3,a settled half back line ,and a 9 and the perfect balance of leadership ,grit,hurling,strength,pace ,athleticsm,conviction ,aerail abilty and swagger and tappy hurling.
13 starters imo with management,nash,sul,o neill ,maccie,egan,lorchan(unsure where)kearney,cronin,harnedy,lehane ,horgan,and alan cadogan,walsh.
Id say cahalane could be the 3.
Unsure where lorchan plays .Jbm could play the lad at 9.Woeful call if so.
Keane isnt in the running imo.Awful last night.I felt for the lad.Confidence ruined in thurles at half back.
Id have cahalane if hes just hurling but if we play lad against waterford,could easily mark Maurice shan.
However,with football ,is not long term option.
he isnt needed for the football til july v kerry ,but you cant leave him hurling ,and part take football with so much competiton in the team and not good for morale if they do .
And last week he was flying I saw training,and certain starter cork against kerry imo so has take part in challenge that team v meath ,kildare and champ v tipp /limerick .
We would beat waterford with shane or maccie at 3 but its not making progress for greater tests.
We got to bin those ideas at 3.
Cahalane is best option.
Howevever to beat clare and kk ,we need a recogonised 3.
Lorchan had a thunderous introduction ,as a centre back last night.Play him at 5 or name lad at 9 play as a sweerer,or maccie the same .
15 v 15 should beat waterford ,would beat limerick ,dublin,Galway are unknown.
However clare,kk are ahuge task .Tippeary arent ahead of us by much ,if at all however intent to play a sweeper means there ahead us in forward planning.
Dublin are a fine team but outgrew daly and play 15 v15.
Beating the rest of the pack is attainable but cork hurling is and should be judged in winning all irelands.
Joyce for me at 6.
Egan if he performs ,murphy or maccie may be option.
Murphy would be an option with ,kearney ,with lawton,o shea also in contention ,bu the next two games should tell more regards midfield.
Ellis is suited by physicality against dublin and wexford should be okay these game,i still feel he is lacking real pace and fast hurling.
O shea and lawton ,could be the best options .Lawton had a fine game against browne.Must be consistent now.
Haughney ,doesnt relish hard physical games,and against dublin and wexford he could struggle .
We played Dublin ,before in challenges and 2012 in limerick it was a bruising game in a challenge in june I think twas .
Lehane,harnedy,walsh,cadogan,cronin,horgan my forwards.
Walsh is suited to dropping deep ,at midfield done that last night ,a lot .
More mobile than cian,or cronin.
Eoin cadogan has done litte hurling in league ,and challenge matches and shouldnt be near panel as out of all the dual lads he has had not a lot of club hurling or intercounty done .
A pilot isnt allowed fly a plane on hes own without so many air miles.
We throw cads in to the cockpit at 3 or 7 etc,were ignoring logic,and real real turblence ahead .
Spillane had injuries also but around same game time as eoin in league yet cads makes panel,half commited dual player ,basded on past reputation as a ,hurler despite an avergae 2012 season for cork.
Last night was good in we beat strong limerick team without around 10 key men,but limerick display in truth was poor.They played as indivudals than a team.
They had no intensity or energy,so I wouldnt take it as a great barometer as wexford and dublin be a better test .
If we beat waterford,you would expect beaten all ireland finalist to do that,Clare is for me ,the real test.Have we improved from last year ???
Clare if we play them will answer that.0 -
havent got a kalou wrote: »Look Lads so much talent coming like all these lads mentioned.... Butty ,landers,Lonney , symth and billy Dunne still there and even this years u15s are last years tony forristal champs . This years minors are good next years are even better . You couldn't really pick the team
Plenty of talent coming through, but most hurling counties will say the same - Kilkenny, Dublin, Limerick, Clare, Laois, Waterford etc. Most counties have got their underage system into gear. Mercifully we seem to have decent managers from u-14 to u-18 now.0 -
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It's that time of year again... As part of the national promotion of the Senior Hurling and Football Championships, the inter-county Open Evenings will run again this year!
The Cork Senior Hurlers invite all their fans to come along to training at Páirc Uí Chaoimh on Tuesday, May 6th from 6.45pm approximately. After training, you'll be able to meet the players for photos, autographs etc, and we might have a few little surprises too!!
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Plenty of talent coming through, but most hurling counties will say the same - Kilkenny, Dublin, Limerick, Clare, Laois, Waterford etc. Most counties have got their underage system into gear. Mercifully we seem to have decent managers from u-14 to u-18 now.
apparently one of the cork GDA`s returned from a sabbatical and refused to take up a post as Avondhu Duhallow development officer. Instead of thanking him for his services the county board have decided to split another area in two giving them one each while appointing no coach to cover the other divisions named.0 -
Twiceasnice97 wrote: »apparently one of the cork GDA`s returned from a sabbatical and refused to take up a post as Avondhu Duhallow development officer. Instead of thanking him for his services the county board have decided to split another area in two giving them one each while appointing no coach to cover the other divisions named.
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Laois minors will be the next big thing in the next few years.There investing big money in youth,under Laois for Hurling programme and the setanta one
Beat Cork u 15 last year in Rathdowney practilly all scores came from play.
Young teams have already beaten clare in this year.They hammered tipp in a challenge few weeks ago at minor.A big physical side.Beat offaly the weekend .
Intent and will is there at board level.Liam o neill next year get involved at board id imgaine.They have Ger cunninghan ul and pat flanganan,tipp u21 coach football-waterford hurling last year with them . they have a better management team than limerick.
Cheddar brings the local input.Top set up there.Cummins done bit work there as goalkeeping coach and defending etc .
They have a video anayalst at training now .Stayed in a top limerick hotel last weekend for a camp .
Anything they wanted they got from the board. .County board in fairness ,put the will and money in to them.
People must realise in cork it always comes back to cost .A pr article was run ,where The paper had all what Rebel og was doing etc ,etc,just months back.It had good stuff to be fair but again same old noise and spin Donovan said we dont need as many gdos as dublin in 50..We dont need those numbers fair point.But jesus our gdos dont even go to double figures.
And what works for them wont for us is the what is said.At the end of the day its all about cost,no matter what picture they want to paint.New stadium overheads are high,this bord na plannea appeal surely add costs to 6 month delay so Cork be watching every penny .
Dubs spent around 2m in coaching and development in games annaually.Id say we dont even come close to them .
Talent has and always will be in cork.Its in the breeding .
Breeding always comes out through the eye of a cat so to speak.Hurling is in our blood.
Our problem is developing that talent and coaching.Were fine in coaching u14 to 18.
Schools are making great headway.
Midelton,rochestown ,hamilton will be strong in harty next year,and I fancy charville to win dean ryan cup.
Midelton in two years win the harty id say .
Two crucial managerial appointment next for cork.Next year at u21 is key .
And when jbm goes ,must get Senior job spot on .Hopefully jbm stay another two years,as real real fun starts when he goes.
Two great men wont get it .
O grady and ger cunningham wont even be in mcontention.
Cunningham should get it.Wait for the pr game to start ,hes name would be thrown to a paper just add spice and etc etc.And they would say usual,we are taking time and search high and low for the best man.
When Ger wont even be considered.
They will use hes been two years out of the game ,excuse .Pat has had 6 continous years in hes favour.
I remember when ger cunningham was in line for limerick job,the website ,unusally had notice managements teams place for next year etc so early
A poster said ah ,ger c is there were okay .
I said it then ,it meant nothing.I could see it,was just media spin .Cork trying to force he hand and say as far we concerned we had a manager.It was known Ger was very much in the hunt.And course the Cork board knew it.You see cunningham wanted an intercounty job.I said it then ,he even going for limerick job could have been avoided.It should of been written in stone,Jbm went whenever,he had the job,hes own selectors whenever that was .And he should have got u21 gig in the meantime to keep him,and have continuity with seniors.
Matthews has to be fair to pat brought in continuity to u21 a bit in he is linking senior and u21.However not much good,when yes we be fit and fast ,but our strongest team wont be picked and our game plan and tactics be under pressure against a fine peter queally coached team .I was in waterford 3 wks ago,there flying at u21 appartently .
He would loved u21 job id imagine.We have real talent lads there.And we would likely have a star forward playing.
Talk is the lad may join the panel,unclear yet.He opted out earlier in the year
Mark my words ,Pat kennelly is being lined up for the senior job .He is being groomed and he wants it .And board back him 100 per cent .
And hes profile in the media is high.
Bob ryan gave him a glowing tribute in the echo last year.This story is easy to follow ,in that you see the support he has .
Excaptain,minor,u21,intermediate manager ,county final day ,apparently Expert anayalist on the radio ,county final day,biggest day in cork hurling.
He shouldnt be in consideration.Hed have to win u21 all ireland for me.He wont even be close .
He would bring in some one like frank flannery ,as proven coach to help hes candiatecy .He is with waterford and a good coach.
The truth is if pat got that job,and hes a real contender,Cork are in dire trouble .
But still some one in the media or ex player try and tell us we have a great manager when the real hurling people know its isnt true.
And again I was great fan pat as hurler ,gave everything ont the fieid of play nothing against him,my critisim is soley in management corks teams and in 4 years its ully justifable as the record is poor.
Id said it last year waterford win minor be bad for us ,as I knew our board wouldnt compare like for like and say we werent far of when we beat all ireland champs.
We were in truth miles of that night.
A bit like if italy had won the world cup in 1994 ,ireland saying we beat them 1st game ,we are 2nd best team in the world or equal to them ,when thats not true.
The u14 to 18 isnt a huge worry imo.U21 is a huge worry .In two wks time im going to watch tipp u21 play kk in challenge if I have time to see how far ahead of us they are.
We dont win an all ireland with jbm,we could have a long long wait ,just when we get things sorted at minor,its quite posible ,we could take one step forward ten steps back after jbm goes .0 -
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Laois did beat Cork the Cork U15s Last year comprehensively and look very strong they physically blew the lads away. Simply put they were bigger stronger and more physical. No amount of skill will beat pace and power. Take Kilkenny over the last decade. I am not surprised they are beating the top counties. Cork will always the skilfull wristy hurler but the underage teams lack power. We are developing the wrong type of player. The game has evolved and we have not evolved with it. Lets hope the academy will start to produce a stronger more versatile Player. The likes of Ronan Harrington and the Aherne Lad from Na Parsaigh are prime examples of what we have, but we need to use them and not condem them 2 b squads its hard to believe that neither of the two mentioned made a u15 A squad. No doubt their preformances this season should remedy that injustice. Was in the dyke on sunday morning Ahern was simply outstanding in midfield for Na Parsaigh some engine for a 15 year old. Niall Barry Murphy for Agahalabouge was pivotal in their success with brilliant use of the sliothar another serious young hurler.0
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Laois did beat Cork the Cork U15s Last year comprehensively and look very strong they physically blew the lads away. Simply put they were bigger stronger and more physical. No amount of skill will beat pace and power. Take Kilkenny over the last decade. I am not surprised they are beating the top counties. Cork will always the skilfull wristy hurler but the underage teams lack power. We are developing the wrong type of player. The game has evolved and we have not evolved with it. Lets hope the academy will start to produce a stronger more versatile Player. The likes of Ronan Harrington and the Aherne Lad from Na Parsaigh are prime examples of what we have, but we need to use them and not condem them 2 b squads its hard to believe that neither of the two mentioned made a u15 A squad. No doubt their preformances this season should remedy that injustice. Was in the dyke on sunday morning Ahern was simply outstanding in midfield for Na Parsaigh some engine for a 15 year old. Niall Barry Murphy for Agahalabouge was pivotal in their success with brilliant use of the sliothar another serious young hurler.
Could be thinking wrong lad0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »That young u16 hurler kilworth sage ,fine player have you seen much of the lad horse
I don't lad to be honest. Wouldn't have a lot of connection with kilworth. Is he in colmans?0 -
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/04/28/corkery-fired-rebel-work-rate/
Immense credit to our ladies what a wonderful achivement.
They should be hot news re thread today ,but so many other matches wknd ,they are forgotten.
I WOuld love to make It final,but clashes another game .
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/04/28/young-hurlers-put-hands/
Pretty much agree with that report,however ellis(aint a fan)though had great game two halfs and cooper was spordaic but Lawton imo was magnifcent all game .Great to see he mentioned o gradys card v nash.
Fair play Eammon .
Jbm said was delghted with murphy,lawton ,ellis and walsh.
Ellis he particulary lauded not just that game but all year.He sees him as a mark landers type 99.i get that eelingt
I dont.Landers dominated club games ,and was adapatble to play 9.
Ellis has struggled at times in club games
Walsh and cadts as I said yesterday certain to start.
And I wouldnt but jbm going start ellis .
Murphy ,or o shea could and lawton loose out as lorchan be 5 id say .
Cahalane or mcdonnell for full id say its between.
Next two games tell A lot
I going knowlan park sat
Great news re our minor club games at minor wknd and a lot u16 lads playing minor clubs,great for future .
Sean hayes,a tall powerful,full forward,got 2-5 wknd -at minor v midelton ,1-4 from frees)in space wk,last wk ,for Avondu Senior Hurling,got 1-2 play ,flying .
Sum player,he is vital against limeick young riche mac,Darragh fanning,awesome 3.
Guest ,benny dunne ,dalton all playf for clubs.
U16 player,dean ryan cup winner Garan manley 7 from play (son 92 ger goal senior v kk)seadna symtith(huge fan I am)and alec luttrell fully fit again ,played at 3.
He usualiy plays 6 or 7 ,played u21 county semi last year .
He is going to shake starting 15 v limkerick.Could be like Hes club man fergal mcormack ,father tipp man ,)played cork .Alec people are tipp,i believe ,cork are so lucky to have the lad.
Fergal was great hurler ,mick o connell,great kerry footballes,im sure he was related to .
Tim o mahony played newtownshandrum u16,kinnane cup winner and harty player,played minor weekennd ,and Darragh guiney had a great game ,for newtown , up against newecstown with the huge talent luke meade playing
Guiney is u16,playing minor club,i said it last year even,huge talent future.Great temparment.
Kennelly ,kanturk ,young Nash in making,of kanturk played duhallow,as did other u16 goalie looney with sars ,as did u16 forward and goal scorer v limkerick in u16 2-17 to 2-10 win ,tristan o leary sars.
Paul lepold didnt play ,but hopefully makes good progress from injury .A fine player.
Great see our minors doing great club game(that it was you like to see ,regards inter county lads)
And u16 lads playing minor.They are that good.
I must also say how pleased and prould I am to see a few posters talking new talent in cork re minors etc,as thats great to see such interest and kowlege re underage in cork ,as youth is paramount and the future to cork hurling.
Great to see in the thread and long may it continue .
Horse84 im nt sure if sage is colmans lad .0 -
I'm delighted for Sean Hayes TOP CLASS dats all
Alec Luterall back im happy for club and county point of view and will hopefully start for cork minors
Tim O'Mahony I remember people talking about him after Shandrum winning that county last year maybe could get a call up to cork 17s/minors
Garan Manley unbelievable as usual very good at placed balls 1 of those that can play every sport and would not blame him picking soccer in the future (like frowley buttevant now a under 16 Irish international)
Darragh Guiney kept Meade to 2 points enough said
Barry Kennelly kanturk minor keeper,duhallow minor keeper and now got called up to the cork minors last Monday against tipp exact same as nasher0 -
havent got a kalou wrote: »I'm delighted for Sean Hayes TOP CLASS dats all
Alec Luterall back im happy for club and county point of view and will hopefully start for cork minors
Tim O'Mahony I remember people talking about him after Shandrum winning that county last year maybe could get a call up to cork 17s/minors
Garan Manley unbelievable as usual very good at placed balls 1 of those that can play every sport and would not blame him picking soccer in the future (like frowley buttevant now a under 16 Irish international)
Darragh Guiney kept Meade to 2 points enough said
Barry Kennelly kanturk minor keeper,duhallow minor keeper and now got called up to the cork minors last Monday against tipp exact same as nasher
Were u that minor matc?
Was at cork training camp couldnt go
Have u heard sage kilworth?0 -
Adam o Sullivan is u16 hurler,also okay the last day .
Is he another kilshannig man playing with the Glen?? Or vice versa now anyone know
He was down as kilshannig in the u16 game in ul0 -
Lads my minor team as of now v limerick-could change etc
Collins
O brien/edges cian walsh tough call
gunning
Smith
Bourke
Callaghan
Lutterll/buckley
Meaney
O donughne(leader he is)
Meade(help midfield and defence superb engine,like a ford but has pace like a frerrai,tough,abrasive,lots hurling,huge awarness,lad that loves big games.A pro type of Jerry Connor
Kinery Has to mark lynch,only man to do it
Lee
Kingston
Hayes
Halloran/dunne /dolan
Subs
Connell
Walsh
Browne
Casey
Dempsey play in defence ,or attack
Looney
And of the ones in 15 im unsure of who ever doesn make it drops bench
Balance has got to perfect.A hurling team wont beat them on its own.
You need warriors and leaders ,and a solid spine ,with hurling.
That team has that
Gunning,callahhan,kinery ,hayes down the centre with donughe at midfield
Half back line is where were strong ,and half forward line
That where we win or loose it
They have cosgrave ,lynch ,and lyons at half back
Nash and lynch at half forward with colin ryan inside,there lethal
Form and injuries,team may change.0 -
Clerical error Adam O' Sullivan plays with the Glen he has no connection with Killshannigh, There is a Diarmuid O' Sullivan at this age group who plays with Killshannigh. Adam is a pupil of the AG Mhuire North Mon0
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Thanks lad
What would be your 15 v limerick?
Huge inter divisnal this wknd
Im unsure to watch A or bs0 -
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to be honest I dont know enough about the current minors to give an infromed opinion. Gunning is a terrier and never gives up, Luttrell and hayes I have seen playing for the Patrician Academy very impressive. Dayne lee could be a superstar if he puts it all together.
As for the interdivisional it would have to be flower lodge to watch the lads from the city. Harrington, Aherne, Coleman, Deasy, the two O'Sullivans, Power etc, Young gunning is injured likely to be out for a few weeks. Should be a great weekend of underage hurling.0 -
to be honest I dont know enough about the current minors to give an infromed opinion. Gunning is a terrier and never gives up, Luttrell and hayes I have seen playing for the Patrician Academy very impressive. Dayne lee could be a superstar if he puts it all together.
As for the interdivisional it would have to be flower lodge to watch the lads from the city. Harrington, Aherne, Coleman, Deasy, the two O'Sullivans, Power etc, Young gunning is injured likely to be out for a few weeks. Should be a great weekend of underage hurling.
Yeah pam doing great work
Pat hefferanen limerick ex player and involved with board doing great work there
Walsh done coaching there also
Where would u see eddie gunning?
3 or 6
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His is without a doubt a 3. He would need to bulk up to make the grade above minor but I would be confident he will he is a serious athlete.
Pat heffernan a serious coach. Never seen such positive reinfrocement to players in team talks and coaching. The young lad Aherne is product of heffernans coaching as I believe he was a pupil in the Academy until moving to the Ag Mhuire earlier this year. Quality coaches can mould player have no doubt.0 -
His is without a doubt a 3. He would need to bulk up to make the grade above minor but I would be confident he will he is a serious athlete.
Pat heffernan a serious coach. Never seen such positive reinfrocement to players in team talks and coaching. The young lad Aherne is product of heffernans coaching as I believe he was a pupil in the Academy until moving to the Ag Mhuire earlier this year. Quality coaches can mould player have no doubt.
Hes still living in mallow
Fergal mccormack similar went to academy then bolmans
Yeah gunning be cork senior within 3 years
Ian cahii and himself are two fine 3
Paul lepold sars hopefully recover
Anyone know how mark o connor is doing?0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Were u that minor matc?
Was at cork training camp couldnt go
Have u heard sage kilworth?
No I wasn't just heard Barry Kennelly got called up and played a half sorry0 -
My football team for championship for tipp or limerick
Ken-people want David,and say Ken isnt up to it re kickouts.
Last weekend for two days he was driving the new strategy we had.
What I saw,has to be worked on,but very very imppessive.We have a Clear plan and I have NO Fear there.My Fear is with opponents kick outs.
My team would be
O hallorahan
Shields
Cadogan
Galvin
Loughrey ,
Kelly
Cahalane
Walsh/gould ,a half each with Dinneen getting a full game
O rourke
Collins
Kerrigan
Goulding
Hurley
COLM
Subs
Hanarahan
Crowley
Jamie sul
Maguire
Deane
Brian o driscoll
Doc
Hodnett
3 midfield men would be in my subs ,as deane can play as a half forward also ,as 3rd midfielder or in a o rourke role .
That would be just for this game .
There is Close calls like dorman,clancys ,vaughan ,barry o driscoll etc
No means out of the picture,but you can only have 24 in the match day panel
Hurling team
Nash
O neill
Cahalane (not by chioce,but we have no other option)
Conor sul
Lorchan,
joyce ,
mcdonnell/egan
Kearney
Murphy,/o shea,/lawton
Lehane
Harnedy
Walsh
Cadogan
Cronin
Horgan
Subs
Mccarthy
Burke
Ellis
Coughlan
Moylan
O shea
Cooper
Our subs when you look at it are weak.We are weak at half back ,and forwards ,
Cian Macarthy and Brian Hartnett ,i havent named as imo ,not realistic options .
I still find it hard to understand Walsh of kildorrey isnt there as a half back.
He Has pace,so much held rob o shea last week had to be swtiched.
Nagle would be the same of Midelton
Burke had an awful day ,but I have faith in the lad
Killlan murphy ,were going to miss the lad as the year goes on imo.
We have no problem scoring ,and we get everyone fit,we have 10 forwards that can do a job.
Defence is our problem
Splendid reading in the Echo ,Nash Interview ,and David meyler .
Hope hull win fa cup whenever its on.
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/04/30/meyler-rebel-cup-cause/
A man ,that said hes prould to be a cork man,and he will always be a cork man through and true.
Credit due.
He said Gaa made him the man he is.What a hurler he would have been.
And at now he be in hes peak.
He had the toughness ,and inner drive and grit and had hurling.Left and right hurler he was .
Cork play Waterford in minor football semifinal ,next .They got 6 goals against clare so yould have to take notice,but they left in 4,so Buckley and michael hurley could do real real damage ,quick ball.
Tippeary were well beaten by clare in minor hurling tonight ,so its hard to know what to take from limericks display against them .
I may be wrong but I dont think ,it was tipp minors ,cork played in a challenge ,u16 I believe ,easter monday .
And im not sure Barry kennelly is with the minors this year .Patrick collins and o connell are the minor keepers.
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/04/30/nash-putting-line-club-county/
A good read ,with Nash0 -
Somebody asked about Denis Sulliuvan of ballinscarthy and now clonakilty a while back,where he was.
He is picked for New York to play against Mayo and Hugh Curran of Newcstown is starting sunday in New york.
Cork always had links to New york present and past .Paul kerrians father Jimmy ,tim dalton played with Carlow In New york in the 1980's.
Best of luck to both of them.0 -
Paudi Sull back in full contact training with the hurlers. The wford game is coming too soon for him but delighted for pebbles just over a year since the leg break.
Any update on Luke's shoulder? Did he end up having surgery on it?0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Somebody asked about Denis Sulliuvan of ballinscarthy and now clonakilty a while back,where he was.
He is picked for New York to play against Mayo and Hugh Curran of Newcstown is starting sunday in New york.
Cork always had links to New york present and past .Paul kerrians father Jimmy ,tim dalton played with Carlow In New york in the 1980's.
Best of luck to both of them.
Looking at your choice of tam and subs for the football, TTM, it shows what a difficult job Cork Management has in selecting a squad for the c/ship.
If Cubby started 3 dual players and didn't include the Clancys even in the match day squad - I can imagine that could be an issue.
The 2 challenge games are going to be vital and the dual players probably won't be in Skyrene on the 18th.
It'll be very hard to drop lads like Butcher and Hayes who contributed to a successful league campaign - It's not going to be easy to make these choices.0 -
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »Hurling team
Nash
McDonnell
O'Neill
Conor Sull
Lorcán,
Joyce ,
Egan
Kearney
Walsh/Haughney (if still around panel - assume he is)
Cronin
Harnedy
Lehane
Moylan
Horgan
Coughlan
Subs:
Mccarthy
Cahalane/Burke
E Cadogan
Ellis
O'Shea
A Cadogan
Paudie Sull
Cooper
Fixed
Cahalane can't start imo. Would do well to make matchday programme in all hoensty0
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