Cork GAA Discussion Thread

niallo27

Amprodude wrote: »

great ye beat Cork last two times but sh#t yerselves when ye come to Croke Park year in and year out.

Why do cork people just become unbearable when it comes to gaa. Most arrogant supporters in the country. Do cork people actually realise cork isn't the centre of the universe.

ShamoBuc

niallo27 wrote: »

Why do cork people just become unbearable when it comes to gaa. Most arrogant supporters in the country. Do cork people actually realise cork isn't the centre of the universe.

Why do Dublin people just become unbearable when it comes to gaa. Most arrogant supporters in the country. Do Dublin people actually realise Dublin isn't the centre of the universe.

Why do......


Nice generalisation fella!

ciarriaithuaidh

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Why do Dublin people just become unbearable when it comes to gaa. Most arrogant supporters in the country. Do Dublin people actually realise Dublin isn't the centre of the universe.

Why do......


Nice generalisation fella!

Thay was a fairly arrogant post by Ampro in fairness..and in response to Fireball who is one of the best GAA posters here in fairness.

corkrobinhood

Any fear we could get back to talking about hurling? :P

Ive been slating Pa Cronin all year,to anyone that would listen,he couldnt catch a cold if Jack Frost sneezed on him.....yet we're not exactly weighed down with options for a big rangy forward who can win ball in the air ( again,yes I know Pa hasnt been doing that lately either!)

Cronins best game of the year was actually last Sunday,he was far sharper in the second half,won some good ball down on the Old Stand side,passed the ball off well. A massive improvement by him because up to that to be fair hes done f.all for a long time.

Hopefully that'll give him some confidence because he badly needs something to get going for a full 70mins!

Options if we drop him? NoT many on the bench. Those that say drop him and start Paudie Sull are leaving us with no big decent target man inside as Paudie is too small for that job,Harnedy is wasted in their,as is Lehane and Hoggy is the man we need to take the scores,not create the chances for others.
I was in for the Intermediate game on Sunday and both Peter O Brien and Michael O Suillivan had great games,both big men,I know Peter got a run in the League few months back,from talking to a few that watch him closely they say he's a great intermediate man,but struggles when it comes to the next level,could he be an option if worked on?

Theres not a whole pile wrong with last Sundays team.....but their a few mistakes away from getting a right beating if certain areas aernt tightened up on.

Footballers out on Saturday night down the Pairc,Juniors on beforehand,will they get 10,000 at it? Fine Saturday evening,with the majority of the diehard football support coming from West and mid-Cork,will the hay be saved by then!

ShamoBuc

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Thay was a fairly arrogant post by Ampro in fairness..and in response to Fireball who is one of the best GAA posters here in fairness.

True.... And true.....still a broad generalisation though.

Amprodude

ciarriaithuaidh wrote: »

Thay was a fairly arrogant post by Ampro in fairness..and in response to Fireball who is one of the best GAA posters here in fairness.

Just stating the facts fellow. No offense meant but after Cork, I support Limerick and Waterford but in fairness they have left games behind them they should have won.

Archer3083

Would anyone really mind if the Munster Final was switched to Semple stadium? I know Cork have home/away agreements with Limerick, but Semple could accommodate an extra 10,000 spectators compared to Páirc Uí Chaoimh. I think the normal home/away agreement should stand, and I think final should stay in PUC, but I think the Cork players would be just as happy to play in Semple.

zetecescort

Cork have played very few championship games at PUC in recent years so I'd imagine the players would prefer to play in PUC before it's knocked. Tipp had an issue with the home/away agreement for the league quarter final and now Limerick are trying to pull a stroke. What happened to sticking to your word?

Meursault

Exactly, Zetescort. Exactly.

Cork v Limerick should be a great occasion, by the way. In fairness, Limerick always bring big crowds and a great atmosphere. This game is ideally set up for them. All the talk will be about Cork, after beating Clare. Pressure will all be on Cork. I wouldnt take this one for granted for a second. Hopefully the weather will be similar to last year's Munster final.

slingerz

corkrobinhood wrote: »

Any fear we could get back to talking about hurling? :P

Ive been slating Pa Cronin all year,to anyone that would listen,he couldnt catch a cold if Jack Frost sneezed on him.....yet we're not exactly weighed down with options for a big rangy forward who can win ball in the air ( again,yes I know Pa hasnt been doing that lately either!)

Cronins best game of the year was actually last Sunday,he was far sharper in the second half,won some good ball down on the Old Stand side,passed the ball off well. A massive improvement by him because up to that to be fair hes done f.all for a long time.

Hopefully that'll give him some confidence because he badly needs something to get going for a full 70mins!

Options if we drop him? NoT many on the bench. Those that say drop him and start Paudie Sull are leaving us with no big decent target man inside as Paudie is too small for that job,Harnedy is wasted in their,as is Lehane and Hoggy is the man we need to take the scores,not create the chances for others.
I was in for the Intermediate game on Sunday and both Peter O Brien and Michael O Suillivan had great games,both big men,I know Peter got a run in the League few months back,from talking to a few that watch him closely they say he's a great intermediate man,but struggles when it comes to the next level,could he be an option if worked on?

Theres not a whole pile wrong with last Sundays team.....but their a few mistakes away from getting a right beating if certain areas aernt tightened up on.

Footballers out on Saturday night down the Pairc,Juniors on beforehand,will they get 10,000 at it? Fine Saturday evening,with the majority of the diehard football support coming from West and mid-Cork,will the hay be saved by then!

10K will be an optimistic figure as they are playing Tipp. A saturday night fixture will definitely help though.

Pringle12345

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Match has to be played in Cork it would be totally unfair to expect cork fans to travel to thurles for a 4th time this year, bit of a joke if it were to happen as it would mean every senior hurling championship match in 2014 was played in Thurles, pure joke, and greed by the munster council. Least also by having it in cork it would inject some needed cash into our local economy, think local!

It won't go to Thurles anyway and needed cash in to local economy haha. Goway will ya

Pringle12345

I'd nearly prefer to go to the GG than try watch a match in the dump that is PUC. Such an uncomfortable spot to sit down in.

D'Agger

Meursault wrote: »

What are you basing your comments (highlighted) on D'Agger?

you seem be be suggesting that the comments above are groundless, but at the same time you are making statements like those highlighted, without any proof.

To be honest you could be forgiven lately for thinking there was an agenda against Cork (I am not saying there is).

Since last sept you had the likes of Eddie Keher out doing his best impression of Helen Lovejoy, yet he went very quiet when TJ Reid was doing a carbon copy of Nash's style

Davy Fitz was at the same thing about Nash and has been complaining about refs since last summer, yet was happy enough to benefit from the extended injury time in the drawn all ireland final.

Now you have the Limerick GAA trying to influence a switch of venues while at the same time saying 'we are not trying to switch the munster final venues'

The match should be played in PUC, regardless of capacity. An agreement is an agreement. Limerick should keep to its word.

The match should be played in PUC - that's my view on it but the GAA is always going to look to maximize revenue.

Regarding the Nash thing - you're right, I don't have solid evidence, but using logic and my understanding of human nature I have zero doubt in my mind that if somebody else was doing this then a fuss would have been kicked up. Now, with that said, if somebody from the Mayo hurlers was doing it then it probably wouldn't have gotten the exposure - but if the shoe was on the other foot and Clare had introduced this type of free taking technique then Cork fans would have had something to say about it, and, for my money at least, it would be looked at in the same manner.

While you could be forgiven for feeling Cork is being conspired against - I really, really don't see it being the case. It's an emotional argument rather than one based on logic imo.

Rebel1977 wrote: »

Match has to be played in Cork it would be totally unfair to expect cork fans to travel to thurles for a 4th time this year, bit of a joke if it were to happen as it would mean every senior hurling championship match in 2014 was played in Thurles, pure joke, and greed by the munster council. Least also by having it in cork it would inject some needed cash into our local economy, think local!

Again, agree that it should be in PUC but at this stage is anybody surprised with the GAA looking to maximize revenue

sean mac wrote: »

This has been instigated by limerick, they are afraid of coming to the pairc, lets be honest on this point. The munster council will no doubt talk about health and safety or even extra attendance but this is bull****. Could you imagine if cork pulled out of an agreement with clare - they would call for a public inquiry or god forbid poor old limerick.
There is an agreement in place, it was good enough for limerick and the munster council last year, the paircs revised capacity is just over 40,000 plenty big enough.

Why would the munster champions be afraid of travelling anywhere to defend their title? Even if you're discussing the Limerick County Board - they're obviously going to try and swing the game to Limerick for their own gain if they feel it's attainable - why not? try to take every advantage you can.

It's not a case of fear so much as opportunism

Pringle12345

The paranoia is very funny though

btownboy

D'Agger wrote: »

Even if you're discussing the Limerick County Board - they're obviously going to try and swing the game to Limerick for their own gain if they feel it's attainable - why not? try to take every advantage you can.

It's not a case of fear so much as opportunism

Why not? The very simple answer is that you honour your agreements. If you do not honour your agreements then you are dishonourable, pure and simple.

The best thing that Limerick could have done was actually say nothing and just come down and play. They have a relatively good record in the last 20 years - thinking about 1996 and 2001 - so they should just get on with it.

I am not sure if I was a Limerick hurler I would be overly impressed with the intervention on their behalf.

It is actually a good opportunity for them to come down and 'spoil the party' as it were but they have probably just given ammo to the Cork team with their CB's behavior.

Very disappointing from Limerick CB as Limerick is a very sporting county with great sports fans (I live in Limerick at the moment).

D'Agger

btownboy wrote: »

Why not? The very simple answer is that you honour your agreements. If you do not honour your agreements then you are dishonourable, pure and simple.

The best thing that Limerick could have done was actually say nothing and just come down and play. They have a relatively good record in the last 20 years - thinking about 1996 and 2001 - so they should just get on with it.

I am not sure if I was a Limerick hurler I would be overly impressed with the intervention on their behalf.

It is actually a good opportunity for them to come down and 'spoil the party' as it were but they have probably just given ammo to the Cork team with their CB's behavior.

Very disappointing from Limerick CB as Limerick is a very sporting county with great sports fans (I live in Limerick at the moment).

All the talk so far is about the CB's and the venue - I'd say both panels are delighted with it - less focus on them for now

Amprodude

niallo27 wrote: »

Why do cork people just become unbearable when it comes to gaa. Most arrogant supporters in the country. Do cork people actually realise cork isn't the centre of the universe.

Why are you posting this in a CORK GAA forum?

D'Agger

Amprodude wrote: »

Why are you posting this in a CORK GAA forum?

Amprodude wrote: »

great ye beat Cork last two times but sh#t yerselves when ye come to Croke Park year in and year out.

^ Same reason you posted the above probably - swings and roundabouts Amprodude, only difference being he didn't say 'no offense, just speaking the truth' and expect people to accept it as a valid post

btownboy

Does anyone know what Darren Sweetnam is doing now that he has been cut by Munster?

Would love to see him back in the hurling fold. He would be some addition in the HF line.

Orizio

Sweetnam is still with Munster, on his final year.

http://www.munsterrugby.ie/rugby/academy.php

btownboy

On Sweetnam - I had been told by someone close to the Munster setup that he was cut from the setup in May. The website may not be up to date on this.

Hypothetically though if he was available he would be some addition.

btownboy

Looks like PuC

From Echo:

Páirc Uí Chaoimh will almost certainly house the Munster hurling final despite earlier reservations about the capacity at the venue what will be a sell-out clash between Cork and Limerick.
Cork travelled to the Gaelic Grounds last year for the provincial final, but concerns were raised about whether the Páirc could cater for the demand from supportersbelieved that Limerick have now expressed some concern about coming to Leeside. There is still uncertainty about how many will be accommodated, and it’s likely the attendance will be capped at 40,000 — significantly less than Thurles.
After a visit by the health and safety officer Michael Slattery to the Cork headquarters today when the capacity for the final will be decided, the expectation is that the Páirc will be given the green light for one last major final before the re-development work begins on the stadium that was opened 38 years ago in 1976.
A number of conditions will probably have to be met by the Cork County Board in order to satisfy the Munster Council on the grounds suitability but those are expected to be met in time for the big showdown, one that will be preceded a week earlier by the football final, if Cork and Kerry both qualify after this weekend’s semi-finals.

Pringle12345

btownboy wrote: »

On Sweetnam - I had been told by someone close to the Munster setup that he was cut from the setup in May. The website may not be up to date on this.

Hypothetically though if he was available he would be some addition.

Your "source " is wrong, he's still with Munster. Plus I'm not sure there is a place for him now, maybe at half forward

btownboy

Pringle12345 wrote: »

Your "source " is wrong, he's still with Munster. Plus I'm not sure there is a place for him now, maybe at half forward

He could well be. However the man who told me that is a former Munster player from the amateur era.

Gary Neville

btownboy wrote: »

He could well be. However the man who told me that is a former Munster player from the amateur era.

I heard the same story.

ShamoBuc

I also heard he was gone from Munster.
While I love the Páirc, I only love the terraces. There is a fantastic view from any position due to the depth of the steps. Unfortunately the stands are a joke and quite dangerous if filled anywhere near capacity.

btownboy

1990 all Ireland final on TG4 at the moment.

ShamoBuc

btownboy wrote: »

1990 all Ireland final on TG4 at the moment.

Only seeing this now,missed it. I was there for both of them that year and the three previous football too, the major reason why I DESPISE Meath .

btownboy

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Only seeing this now,missed it. I was there for both of them that year and the three previous football too, the major reason why I DESPISE Meath .

I was actually nervous watching the 1990 final on TG4 just now!!

It was a real touch and go who would win that one. Tony O'Sullivan was some player.

Amprodude

btownboy wrote: »

I was actually nervous watching the 1990 final on TG4 just now!!

It was a real touch and go who would win that one. Tony O'Sullivan was some player.

Great game. Realistically it was a game we shouldn't have won but great game. T. Mulcahy got some goal.