Cork GAA Discussion Thread

D'Agger

Juniors playing Kerry in Tralee Wednesday night. Would imagine Kerry are firm favourites given they're at home and Cork are weakened this year, having won the All-Ireland last year

willietherock

malascoile wrote: »

Its on tonight atr 7:30 I think

how sure are you?

willietherock

malascoile wrote: »

Its on tonight atr 7:30 I think

beat what looked like a full strength Tipp side in Fermoy. 1-21 0-18
Missing Cadogan and the 5 Blackrock players.
Team was something alongthe lines of
Collins ( minor keeper)
Spillane/Killian O Connor/ Keith Buckley
???/ Cormac Murphy/????
Darragh Brosnan/ Rick Cahalane
Mickey Browne/Dylan ???/ Killian McIntyre
Anthony Spillane/ Mark O'Connor( maybe)/ Rob O SHea

Pretty sure Pa Callaghan came on as a sub
Cormac Murphy was head and shoulders over everyone on the field. Seemed decent enough. Well coached, good tactically ect

Orizio

Surely Dillon Cahill at 11.

North Cork Star

I met people at the game and they told me that Pa Herlihy (Mallow) came on as a sub. Mikey Browne (Ballyhea) was in goals. Cormac Murphy and Rob O'Shea were suppose to be Cork's best players. Still with Alan Cadogan and a few others not togged out, it was a good outing for the Cork Under 21s beating Tipp by 4 points.

Orizio

What happened to some of the Rockies recent Cork Minors, like Dylan Stokes, John Fitzgerald etc?

Figsy32

Orizio wrote: »

What happened to some of the Rockies recent Cork Minors, like Dylan Stokes, John Fitzgerald etc?

Blackrock had 21 championship last night so weren't involved with Cork.

Stokes is in America, will play at half back for Blackrock Seniors when back. Fitzgerald playing rugby with Munster.

Blackrock supposedly have 5 on the Cork 21 panel so the recent minor titles look like they're producing players of good quality.

Orizio

Murphy, the two O'Keeffes, Smith and Cormack...?

Figsy32

Orizio wrote: »

Murphy, the two O'Keeffes, Smith and Cormack...?

Cormack is just back after doing the Leaving so he's not. Andrew Murphy's there and not sure if it's Smith or David O'Farrell who is the fifth. Whether the 5 of them make the actual match day 24 is a different matter but they've all been with them through the Summer.

zetecescort

1. Ken O’Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr’s – Captain)
3. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
4. Noel Galvin (Ballincollig)
5. James Loughrey (Mallow)
6. Thomas Clancy (Clonakilty)
7. Damian Cahalane (Castlehaven)
8. Aidan Walsh (Kanturk)
9. Fintan Goold (Macroom) 
10. Patrick Kelly (Ballincollig)
11. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
12. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
13. Daniel Goulding (Éire Óg)
14. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
15. Barry O’Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
Brian Cuthbert and his selectors have made three changes in personnel and a number of positional switches ahead of the Munster Final. Eoin Cadogan comes in at full back, with Thomas Clancy moving to centre back. Damien Cahalane starts at wing back, with John O’Rourke moving to wing forward. Aidan Walsh replaces Andrew O’Sullivan at mid-field and Patrick Kelly moves from centre back to wing-forward. Barry O’Driscoll moves to corner forward, with John Hayes and Mark Collins named in the subs.
Injury update: Kevin Crowley and Brian O'Driscoll are still on the injury list, with Brian returning to training this week. Donncha O'Connor returned to full training at the weekend but was not considered for this game.

Subs
16. David Hanrahan (Douglas)
17. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
18. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Andrew O’Sullivan (Castletownbere)
21. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
22. Colm O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCárthaigh)
23. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
24. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
25. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
26. Donal Og Hodnett (O’Donovan Rossa)

Figsy32

zetecescort wrote: »

1. Ken O’Halloran (Bishopstown)
2. Michael Shields (St. Finbarr’s – Captain)
3. Eoin Cadogan (Douglas)
4. Noel Galvin (Ballincollig)
5. James Loughrey (Mallow)
6. Thomas Clancy (Clonakilty)
7. Damian Cahalane (Castlehaven)
8. Aidan Walsh (Kanturk)
9. Fintan Goold (Macroom) 
10. Patrick Kelly (Ballincollig)
11. Paul Kerrigan (Nemo Rangers)
12. John O’Rourke (Carbery Rangers)
13. Daniel Goulding (Éire Óg)
14. Brian Hurley (Castlehaven)
15. Barry O’Driscoll (Nemo Rangers)
Brian Cuthbert and his selectors have made three changes in personnel and a number of positional switches ahead of the Munster Final. Eoin Cadogan comes in at full back, with Thomas Clancy moving to centre back. Damien Cahalane starts at wing back, with John O’Rourke moving to wing forward. Aidan Walsh replaces Andrew O’Sullivan at mid-field and Patrick Kelly moves from centre back to wing-forward. Barry O’Driscoll moves to corner forward, with John Hayes and Mark Collins named in the subs.
Injury update: Kevin Crowley and Brian O'Driscoll are still on the injury list, with Brian returning to training this week. Donncha O'Connor returned to full training at the weekend but was not considered for this game.

Subs
16. David Hanrahan (Douglas)
17. Jamie O’Sullivan (Bishopstown)
18. Tomás Clancy (Fermoy)
19. Conor Dorman (Bishopstown)
20. Andrew O’Sullivan (Castletownbere)
21. Ruairi Deane (Bantry Blues)
22. Colm O’Driscoll (Tadhg MacCárthaigh)
23. Mark Collins (Castlehaven)
24. Colm O’Neill (Ballyclough)
25. John Hayes (Carbery Rangers)
26. Donal Og Hodnett (O’Donovan Rossa)

Much nicer balance to this team than played against Tipperary.

Presume it means there'll be a 2 man full forward line as Barry O'Driscoll will go roaming. He was one of the few to come out with credit from the Tipp performance so glad he was retained.

No surprise seeing Butcher and Hayes gone but Collins can count himself a little unlucky I feel. He'll be a good man to bring on when the game is stretched though.

sean mac

Figsy32 wrote: »

Much nicer balance to this team than played against Tipperary.

Presume it means there'll be a 2 man full forward line as Barry O'Driscoll will go roaming. He was one of the few to come out with credit from the Tipp performance so glad he was retained.

No surprise seeing Butcher and Hayes gone but Collins can count himself a little unlucky I feel. He'll be a good man to bring on when the game is stretched though.

Daniel goudling as part of a 2 man inside line is insane stuff - he doesn't work, he doesn't tackle, he doesn't make runs, he has lost pace. It will suit Kerry down to the ground but sounds like the type of plan this crowd would come up with alright

Figsy32

sean mac wrote: »

Daniel goudling as part of a 2 man inside line is insane stuff - he doesn't work, he doesn't tackle, he doesn't make runs, he has lost pace. It will suit Kerry down to the ground but sounds like the type of plan this crowd would come up with alright

Usually I'd agree but if it creates space to isolate O'Mahony and O'Se in the full back line I think himself and Hurley could have a field day, much like in the league game where Hurley put up a huge score. Two outstanding footballers but perhaps gone past the peak of their powers?

zetecescort

Has Colm ONeill had a setback or are they being extra cautious given his history?

Juniors had a heavy defeat against Kerry tonight

ShamoBuc

zetecescort wrote: »

Has Colm ONeill had a setback or are they being extra cautious given his history?

Juniors had a heavy defeat against Kerry tonight

Was always going to happen to the juniors this year I think.

Interesting team selection. As mentioned, Goulding and a 2 man full toward line won't work due to his work rate. But t
he running capability of the others might make it work. O'Neill and Hurley would be an awesome twosome. Free taking could be an issue though. Really looking forward to this one and I do think we have the beating of Kerry, would be a nice way to finish off football down the Páirc.

Archer3083

zetecescort wrote: »

Has Colm ONeill had a setback or are they being extra cautious given his history?

Juniors had a heavy defeat against Kerry tonight

I'm wondering the same thing about Colm O'Neill. I'm surprised he's not a starter unless he's had a setback in training. I doubt this is a dummy team. I'd also have liked to have seen Dónal Óg Hodnett start. I think he's going to be a star in the future, maybe it's a year or two too early for him.

stuba

Anyone know is it assigned seating or is a free for all in the uncovered stand?

menace404

stuba wrote: »

Anyone know is it assigned seating or is a free for all in the uncovered stand?

It is assigned seating. I have my tickets with uncovered stand, section d, and my row and seat number.

ShamoBuc

That was abysmal. Totally shocking lack of belief, a plan, intensity. Brutal display. Yes Kerry were very good but they were allowed to play due to the insipidness of the Cork players. As bad a performance as I have seen.

roshje

ShamoBuc wrote: »

That was abysmal. Totally shocking lack of belief, a plan, intensity. Brutal display. Yes Kerry were very good but they were allowed to play due to the insipidness of the Cork players. As bad a performance as I have seen.

Yes Cork made Kerry look good:mad:

Axel Lamp

Bring back Counihan, all is forgiven.

Archer3083

Colm O'Rourke described the Cork performance today as 'spineless' and it's very hard to argue against that description. I don't think there is any point in discussing the Kerry performance, because they were simply allowed to play. Cork completely lacked intensity and fight. Unlike the Munster final last year Cork gave up completely in the second half, with 20 mins to go, Cork stopped trying. That is the most troubling aspect of today's game, because it looks like the team aren't trying for the manager or simply do not trust or believe in Cuthbert. They certainly didn't try for him today. That is not going to be rectified in the next few weeks, and Cork will win nothing this year.

Problems in midfield and in the full back line might be rectified but how do you get a team to trust or believe in their manager now? I think Cuthbert will have to go once Cork are out of this year's campaign. I'm not being sensationalist, but I just cannot see how Cuthbert will get that Cork team to believe!

ShamoBuc

Buddy from Douglas told me he heard things were very poor in the camp and a lot of the players have no time for Cuthbert.
I didn't mention it in here but it certainly was Painfully obvious today how ****ed up things are in the camp.

One thing is for sure now, JBM will not have that problem, I'm expecting them to rip into Limerick next weekend and put the natural pride back into the Cork jersey!

roshje

A complete whitewash this week by Kerry, minor,junior and senior.Back to the drawing board

The White Feather

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Buddy from Douglas told me he heard things were very poor in the camp and a lot of the players have no time for Cuthbert.
I didn't mention it in here but it certainly was Painfully obvious today how ****ed up things are in the camp.

One thing is for sure now, JBM will not have that problem, I'm expecting them to rip into Limerick next weekend and put the natural pride back into the Cork jersey!

Its funny but when Cork didn't score for around 30 mins in the first half I thought that there must be something badly wrong in the camp. I have no knowledge of anything but when a team goes that long without scoring then either they are set up badly or the team doesnt want to put in the effort for the manager.

They looked uninterested and vitally there seemed to be no switches from the sideline when Kerry began to pull away.The managers and selectors have to react when things begin to slide away.

Thats true about JBM as his stature alone can get that bit of extra out of every player.

No one minds losing but this game was over at half time.

For Cork, this just simply is not good enough

Hotfail.com

Lads.... Why do we bother? :pac:

Also, what happened with the security? I heard them talking about it on the radio on the way home, I didn't see anything too strange up there today tbh

keep going

Have to admit I gave cuthbert and his crew some support earlier on here but 3 very poor performances, dublin, tipp and today's total disaster have dissapated it and its not happening and I dont think they can turn it around.my opinion before the match was the backdoor mightnt do any harm to this bunch but that was only in the case of a narrow loss but there is no hope now.so many people were in big trouble in their positions and it was sickening to see the way kerry were giving the subs a run so early in the second half.that said about the management im not sure there are a heap of higher quality players available in the country I suppose but I wil have to qualify all opions by saying these opinions are expressed in the immediate after math with the jibs of the kerry supporters still ringing in my ears

sean mac

Lads the man is out of his depth, he has no record at this level or even club level at senior. He brought in a bunch of novices who cant game manage. The dual players are poisoning the camp, selecting cahalane today over others after he not kicking a ball since may finished Cuthbert for some, this season is a write off and if the bishopstown man isn't careful he wont have a panel for next year. TODAY WAS AN ABSOLUTE DISGRACE

SeaFields

No heart, no fight, no pride. Just home after being put through that. Disappointed is an understatement.

The_Kew_Tour

I see so much being said about other sports like soccer and how teams can be gutless compared to GAA, but that performance today was a uttter disgrace.

Cork football is a joke. I have never been once embarrassed to say im from Cork up to today.

Kerry have every right to laugh at us.