Cork GAA Discussion Thread

Rebel1977

Archer3083 wrote: »

Does anyone else find RTE's coverage and analysis a bit strange today? I though the analysis on The Sunday Game Live with Joe Brolley, Colm O'Rourke and Ciaran Whelan was bad until I tuned in to watch The Sunday Game with Kevin McStay, Martin McHugh and Dermot Earley. Not one of them gave any credit to Cork whatsoever. Cork lost by a point today and deserve some positive plaudits! For instance when Mayo went 7 points ahead at the start of the second half it was because Mayo upped the intensity, but when Cork brought the game back level again, it was because Mayo had taken their foot off the pedal, and not because Cork had upped their own intensity. So, rather than compliment Cork for dragging themselves back into the game, the pundits basically criticized Mayo for relaxing and thinking the game was won.

I would have to agree with you there, Martin Carney is always anti cork he loves to praise kerry and mayo for simple things yet comes down hard on cork. Both panels have cork no credit for their comeback from 7 points down mark my words if kerry/dublin did this they would have received huge credit. cork were unlucky today few small mistakes but a major improvment from the munster final disaster.

magentis

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

Theres no point in having all workers in a team it must have a balance.
What job did colm do?
Got a lot of sweeping ball,but had No Threat going forward.
Doing a job is fine but when O.Rourke does so much more.
I agree sean he ran all day and is a warrior ,i feel o rourke is that also.
I agree with you regards cahalane.


Maguire worked hard as i said but he didnt win any ball in the air.

Archer,i agree in some points but The Key CRUCIAL FUNDAMENTAL.DIFFERENCE IS kerry have two PROVEN QUALITY COACHES IN O NEILL AND FITZMAURICE that get every last inch out of their team.

What do we have.To compare us to kerry is like comparing apples and oranges.

Colm o rourke in the indo said mayo were not peaking for today.If mayo had hit top gear or had two forwards we would have been blown away.
Lets not kid ourselves,Dublin would tear us apart and Donegal also as they have two key forwards.

This one point defeat means cuthbhert will convince himself and those naive enough to believe him  that Cork are going in the right direction.

Anbody that thinks the Board will review hes reign are in for a rude awakening.Look at the u21 hurling shamble,not a word spoken.
Bob ryan was in ennis.If we had won hed be the middle man in the photo taking the limelight like he was in the Munster final hurling win ,twas like he was the Jesus among hes discipiles,he had to be seen to be part of the Resurrection of Cork hurling.

Where will he be now after the u21 hurling ,now football.
Of course any questions asked,the public spin takes full circle.
We have the All ireland intermediate final and.then the senior Semi the week after so cork gaa focus must be on those two huge games for Cork GAA.

Magentis,thats your opinion fair enough but my opinion , is your view is a similar one that served Cork all so well during the leauge,dare not criticse and go with the flow,dont upset the apple cart.

Just.my opinions, the same ones i got criticised for in being honest regards ,hayes ,sullivan ,mcdonnell as a full back in hurling,the u21 hurling and minor football management  this set up as far back as january etc so ill take what you say with a pinch of salt if you dont mind.

In that i criticise purely on the field of play,am consistent with my views ,and believe being honest and call a spade a spade is what cork needs.Im sorry if that i want more  for Cork gaa,that it too deep anayalis for you.Youre happy to see cork football waste talent,fair enough.You are entitled to that opinion .


As i said at half time,this game was winnable.I paid the players credit for despite being poorly managed giving it their all.I see all irelands in this panel being wasted away and that saddens me.

Walsh said he wants to be dual for two more years.Will cuthbhert to stamp it out?

Cuthbhert was fairly mute in hes interview afterwards ,he didnt may.bout the ref.After shooting from the hip during the weeks hes in no positon to say much.

What he did say was players gave away possession and mistakes.He made huge mistakes ,cahalane ,kerrigan and gould should have been subbed.

He finally learned how to play loughrey though.He had a superb.second half.

No,im sorry ttm.
I think we should all stand behind the lads today.
we were very unlucky not to win the game.
To be fair there was no lack of desire.

Amprodude

Archer3083 wrote: »

Does anyone else find RTE's coverage and analysis a bit strange today? I though the analysis on The Sunday Game Live with Joe Brolley, Colm O'Rourke and Ciaran Whelan was bad until I tuned in to watch The Sunday Game with Kevin McStay, Martin McHugh and Dermot Earley. Not one of them gave any credit to Cork whatsoever. Cork lost by a point today and deserve some positive iplaudits! For instance when Mayo went 7 points ahead at the start of the second half it was because Mayo upped the intensity, but when Cork brought the game back level again, it was because Mayo had taken their foot off the pedal, and not because Cork had upped their own intensity. So, rather than compliment Cork for dragging themselves back into the game, the pundits basically criticized Mayo for relaxing and thinking the game was won.

Cork are absolutely vomit. What praise do they need? Let's face it moral victories don't mean jack. We aren't good enough and like I have said here already we have no business in the Championship. If we won today, Kerry would beat us off Croke Park.

Ned Walsh

It'll be the end of the dual stars.

Archer3083

Amprodude wrote: »

Cork are absolutely vomit. What praise do they need? Let's face it moral victories don't mean jack. We aren't good enough and like I have said here already we have no business in the Championship. If we won today, Kerry would beat us off Croke Park.

It wasn't a moral victory. Cork lost by a point today. Cork played well for large parts of that game. Colm O'Neill, Brian Hurley and Donncha O'Connor all played really well and scored heavily. Eoin Cadogan, Michael Shields were excellent in defense. And other players like Colm and Brian O'Driscoll worked their socks off and gave everything for the cause. There were a few bad performances. For instance Kerrigan didn't play well and was well marked by Lee Keegan. I don't know how you can say that Cork have no place in the championship!!! That's not fair at all. A one point loss against a team that has been in the last 2 AI finals says it all!

Kerry will not beat Mayo or come anywhere close to meeting Mayo. Kerry set up very defensively against Cork in the Munster Final. It worked a dream for them. Cork were terrible on the day. That trick won't work against Mayo!!!

ShamoBuc

Amprodude wrote: »

Cork are absolutely vomit. What praise do they need? Let's face it moral victories don't mean jack. We aren't good enough and like I have said here already we have no business in the Championship. If we won today, Kerry would beat us off Croke Park.

Cork were not vomit today - to think that is wrong, very wrong!

Pride Fighter

Been a few reported posts. None I can see violating the forum charter. But post with some care and respect of your fellow poster.

thinkstoomuch1

I never once questioned our lads desire our hunger.
GAA pundits called the cork players spineless and pathetic after kerry .
That made me sick in my stomach.
I defended players to a hilt.

This management team is out of their depth.No one can give one bit of evidence any selectors are proven coaches as quite simply. Its a Fact not my opinion that shows none of the five have proven success

Watch our minors tommorrow suffer the same fate due to poor management,and ill be criticised for stating the obivious tommorrow eveing.
I from the bottom of my heart get no joy in critising Cork men.Im a cork man,irish by birth Cork by the grace of god.
I want cork to be winners like kilkenny,Cork Ladies,Germany,Man utds,kerry,New zealand in constant sustained success.Christ above we are Cork ,produced Jack lynch,Christy Ring,Denis irwin,Gearoid towey ,Morgan, dinney allen,Jbm,Cummims,o gara,Eammon ryan,juliet murphy,Briege Corkery,Linda mellrick,Lynn Dunlea ,Sonia o sullivan,Dr pat o callaghan,Rob Hefferanen,Davy Rusell,pat eddery,Normin Willamson,Dave.Barry,Donnacha o Callaghan, cusack,justin mccarthy the list is endless.
They had different skills but one common trait.They never glorified.failure.

As a proud cork man im the same.
We have the football talent but it needs direction.The day i accept failure and glorify it is the day i will stop following cork.I will support them through thick and thin,surely its fair to want good managers at all levels in charge of our Golden talent.

thinkstoomuch1

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/horan-rebel-management-disgraceful-638158.html
I understand where horan came from.Had to stand up for hes players.Surely cuthbhert knew horan would react.Horan correctly waited til after the match.
When mayo had a struggle to keep focus as huge favourties cuthbhert.handed them a real cause to beat Cork



It backfired totally on cuthbhert,tried to influence the ref when he had no need to.
For years we laughed at babs donkies dont win derbies 1990 moment and fellow tipp man dinny cahill saying in 2004,Brian Cocoran was finished.
Now Cork be remembered for that.

zetecescort

lukin wrote: »

I hope there isn't a load of moaning in the papers tomorrow from Cuthbert and the players about the ref.Let's take our beating like men and leave that carry-on to Davy Fitz.

Cuthbert needs to say nothing but the board should make a complaint to HQ. Ref wasn't the only reason we lost but there is no denying he was a disaster yesterday.

Our summer is over and so should his.

davegrohl48

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/horan-rebel-management-disgraceful-638158.html
I understand where horan came from.Had to stand up for hes players.Surely cuthbhert knew horan would react.Horan correctly waited til after the match.
When mayo had a struggle to keep focus as huge favourties cuthbhert.handed them a real cause to beat Cork



It backfired totally on cuthbhert,tried to influence the ref when he had no need to.
For years we laughed at babs donkies dont win derbies 1990 moment and fellow tipp man dinny cahill saying in 2004,Brian Cocoran was finished.
Now Cork be remembered for that.

I'd prefer Horan said nothing and shook his hand at the end of the game. The media controversies do be wearisome news.

Amprodude

ShamoBuc wrote: »

Cork were not vomit today - to think that is wrong, very wrong!

They are just frustrating all the same. Mayo will give Kerry a better test than Cork ever would. We have nothing to worry about now anyway. We weren't destroyed which was a bit of positive news.

citykat

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

I want cork to be winners like kilkenny,Cork Ladies,Germany,Man utds,kerry,New zealand in constant sustained success.Christ above we are Cork ,produced Jack lynch,Christy Ring,Denis irwin,Gearoid towey ,Morgan, dinney allen,Jbm,Cummims,o gara,Eammon ryan,juliet murphy,Briege Corkery,Linda mellrick,Lynn Dunlea ,Sonia o sullivan,Dr pat o callaghan,Rob Hefferanen,Davy Rusell,pat eddery,Normin Willamson,Dave.Barry,Donnacha o Callaghan, cusack,justin mccarthy the list is endless.

Why doesn't Roy make the list? Best Cork sportsman in living memory.

sean mac

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/horan-rebel-management-disgraceful-638158.html
I understand where horan came from.Had to stand up for hes players.Surely cuthbhert knew horan would react.Horan correctly waited til after the match.
When mayo had a struggle to keep focus as huge favourties cuthbhert.handed them a real cause to beat Cork



It backfired totally on cuthbhert,tried to influence the ref when he had no need to.
For years we laughed at babs donkies dont win derbies 1990 moment and fellow tipp man dinny cahill saying in 2004,Brian Cocoran was finished.
Now Cork be remembered for that.

Ii have read it all now, horan should have had some class and said nothing whatsoever ffs, the same man did the same thing about a ref a couple of years ago so he is no position to complain.
Not shaking an opponents hand is a reflection on horan as he refused to yesterday, for all cuthberts faults at least he had the dignity to say nothing afterwards and refuse to blame the ref.
Horan was a lucky man to get the chance to say what he said as his team in year 4 of their development scraped over the line against a team who have only started playing in the last month

lukin

sean mac wrote: »

Ii have read it all now, horan should have had some class and said nothing whatsoever ffs, the same man did the same thing about a ref a couple of years ago so he is no position to complain.
Not shaking an opponents hand is a reflection on horan as he refused to yesterday, for all cuthberts faults at least he had the dignity to say nothing afterwards and refuse to blame the ref.
Horan was a lucky man to get the chance to say what he said as his team in year 4 of their development scraped over the line against a team who have only started playing in the last month

I think in 2012 Horan made referernce to the referee before the AI semi-final v Dublin because the ref that was appointed used to ref a lot of Dublin A v B games:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/horans-timely-reminder-to-top-class-referee-mcquillan-205821.html

Last year he spoke about it after the game in response to something Jim Gavin said "not only were we playing Mayo but we were playing the referee as well":
http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/all-ireland-final-mayo-boss-james-2296850

Not quite the same ting as what Cubby and Ronan McCarthy did so I don't agree with you. Anyway I find it tiresome when managers or selectors make comments in the media before a game in an attempt to "influence" the referee. It's something that has crept in from English soccer and we don't need it.
Cubby and his selectors would be much better off keeping their traps shut and doing their job. Horan was right to come out and defend his players after the match.

Rightwing

I'd give Cork a lot of credit for hanging in there. Did well to lose by a point.

Mayo on that performance will go no further. A tired, flat team.

thinkstoomuch1

Ah sean be realistic in fairness at least be consisent with yours views.You berated Cuthbhert time and again and your words were he was talking the talk many a time yet you condone what many cork fans felt in they were ashamed in hes outburst on a proven team on two Proven players in hes team.Of course cuthbhert didnt say a word after,he lost and had to eat humble pie after Horan won the sideline battle hands down.

Your Compeltely Wrong imo as another poster said,horans incidents were compeltely differenct in fairness.
Christ above ,cork had an outcry when brian cococoran was labelled by cahill and when davy had a run in with johhny crowley in a league game last year in cork.
We cant pick and choose and one law for them one law for cork.

Dave made a great point here in horan not shaking hes hand adds to it but at the same time i totally understand horans stance,its called Loyalty two players that served him well.
I admire horan for it ,he has principle.Cork were wrong to say what they did.
Cuthbhert blamed players in dropped some from the team,panel,blamed fans,then ref lead up,who does he blame today.

Before a game cutbhert should adapt the mantra A shut mouth catches no flies.
A poor manager grasping at straws and cant read a game in flow imo.
I was delighted For Ken O.Halloran who made two good saves and was solid in hes kickout and answered hes criticis when he was unfairly being totally blamed for our midfield shambles.Has to start next year.

Were fooling no one but ourselves if we think we will improve next year.

I posted a preview in december here of my hopes for cork teams in 2014.Its easy look it up here.


I said i was happy with the minor hurling mamagement,and said they had a huge ask in limerick but would be competive.They were.
U21 hurlers i gave us no chance ad i dont rate management.Had a falsr dawn v watetfor expösed v clare.
Interemediate hurling i said at least a munster,real chance of all ireland.

Senior hurling,rated management and said had a chance one our style changed,had a full.back,half back and midfield.I never wanted another manager.

Senior football, I said we had talent but a naive, inexpierenced management set up and i remain to be convinced.Imo now im convinced they are not up to it.

Junior football,wouldnt expect much as new team over winning last year.
Minor football,didnt rate management,said we over a soft draw get to all ireland quater final but thats it and loose munster.

U21 football,totally believed management,tough game.in kerry,but belived we had a real chance.
With so many injuries and with derek o brien ref,the day of the game i thought it may be a bridge too far but i truly believed in management.
Imo will win Munster again next year.


My point of this list is i like many judge our teams chances every year on whos in charge.I judge managers records foresncially inside out and upside down.I watch teams train and its easy then see if managers are top men.
I dont just look at names,read a paper and believe the hype.I judge what i see before me.The senior set up i have no faith in it.They got to bring in Gene o driscoll but as pauide palmer confirmed on the radio today,no changes to management next year.

I said cork ladies,would do well as i believed in Eammon Ryan.
I saw them train in ul camp around six weeks ago and they were superb.

I watched their contender Dublin train last weekend in ul,i only saw an hour but while it was impressive from the 31 aprox that trained ,Cork were at a different.level altogether in training.I dont want to go in to specfics here,but the cork girls were awesome in training and had quite a few different drills to the dubs.

Best of luck to minors footballers,live on 103 and to the Ladies Minor all ireland final where cork play galway,live on tg4 at 5.45 today.

thinkstoomuch1

lukin wrote: »

I think in 2012 Horan made referernce to the referee before the AI semi-final v Dublin because the ref that was appointed used to ref a lot of Dublin A v B games:
http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/horans-timely-reminder-to-top-class-referee-mcquillan-205821.html

Last year he spoke about it after the game in response to something Jim Gavin said "not only were we playing Mayo but we were playing the referee as well":
http://www.irishmirror.ie/sport/gaa/gaelic-football/gaelic-football-news/all-ireland-final-mayo-boss-james-2296850

Not quite the same ting as what Cubby and Ronan McCarthy did so I don't agree with you. Anyway I find it tiresome when managers or selectors make comments in the media before a game in an attempt to "influence" the referee. It's something that has crept in from English soccer and we don't need it.
Cubby and his selectors would be much better off keeping their traps shut and doing their job. Horan was right to come out and defend his players after the match.

Totally agree with that.

thinkstoomuch1

citykat wrote: »

Why doesn't Roy make the list? Best Cork sportsman in living memory.

Of course keane makes it,i.forgot.add him.my apologises
You are right

Deco99

I was very critical of Cahillane yesterday. Now I feel the fault lies with Cuthbert in picking a player who.does his own thing and doesnt listen. If he is to continue next year, allowing damien concentrate on the hurling would be no bad step. Great talent, not a team player.

thinkstoomuch1

The minors unfortunately as i feared lost today 1-13 to 2-14 and were beaten by four points but the win does not show how much better Dublin were.

Firstly,let me say we have super talent and credit to all the players for their,fantastic effort and commitment as young lads.

Management did not pick the best.team for this game not even the panel.Some of the changes then they made were strange to say the least.
Schoolboy management at best imo in the balance of half backs was a shambles in we had lads that like to attack and are superb attackers but cant defend.If Cian O'Donovan and Lordan were there from the start we would have won this imo as our full back would have been better protected and our attack getting a more constant supply of quaity ball.O Donovan came on close to half time for Hurley,things changed around,but Cork had conceded two goals by then and the damage was done by then.

Basquel tore us apart as did he's other two half forwards ,as they ran through us time and again and left our full back line exposed again and again and in impossible situations as Dublin created overlaps.

Power and Flahive in that line were brillant ,won a lot of ones v ones.
Flahive was captain fantasic,with Power also a real senior potential corner back.

Kiely and O Donoughe were good going forward but are not half backs and started their.

Lads heaven above we have some midfield prospect in Micheal Desmond.He single handely  Dublins midfield got superb long distance frees,superb kickpassing yet our management too him off.
Christ above.
He wasnt tiring imo,he is an Irish champion boxer twice,hes fitness is top class.And if fitness was a problem that is due to management incorrectly leaving him out of the panel for the ist two games.


He has it all,characther,guts,football intelligence,strength ,great.hands and balanced feet ,and Inner resolve.
At least working with a Real manager in Tony Leahy at club level he will develop further.

He has a lovely smooth kicking techinqie.I love watching hes legs in action,a great style of kick.


He will be on the u21 panel next year and Sean.Hayes and Gene O Driscoll will bring him on next year.
Rononaye of Clyda had a great game in the Dooher ,Galvin type role but imagine if Obegene was their.

Murphy thankfully went in to the corner and he was superb.
Kingston got a great goal,like in the hurling he is a Big game player.Such pace,strength and skill will make it as a Cork senior in either code.He has at senior got to choose one code.A great player.

Michael Hurley had a superb ist half,got injured and likely to be out for Castlehaven v Carbery. I Hope he recovers well.

Colm O Driscoll should not been dropped as he was excellent all year but Kidney had a superb.game,saved two goals, had good kickouts and what a characther.
The man from that great club Passage,shook hands with the basquel twice before he took the two penalties.


The ist one hit the post.A nice gesture by Kidney but it clearly spooked the majestic Basquel.
As the sayings go "kill them with kindness or keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
It was never seen before in gaa and was the same as the thomond park hush factor to opposing team kickers in rubgy.They never expected it so couldnt prepare for it as its rare.

Take a bow Anthony Kidney.You got the edge.Worth the admisson alone imo.

Cork played well but Dublin always had another gear and management didnt make correct changes.Dublin took the gas off but when we got to two points they drove on.
I geuinely believe if Billy Morgan or.James Mccarthy had this set up we would have beaten dublin and shook the all ireland.

I have no doubt these lads could win a Munster u21 title in 2016 if gene is in charge with hayes even though Jack may be with Kerry.

Flahive,Power,Kiely,Desmond,Kingston,Hurley have Real Senior Intercouny potential.The problem
Is who will be Senior Manager in four years time.
Murphy,Coakley,should also be monitored.

Before people get carried away and say management done fantatsic and unlike other years got to an all ireland quater finals,lets be realisic,that was mininum expectation as we had the easy side of the draw from day one.


Beat the worst Limerick minor team in years as all top footballers soley committed to hurling or else they would not even make the Hurling Panel.

I said it then we made hard work of an average Waterford team.
Beaten by Kerry and Dublin and flatteted by the scorelines as they both misssed or had penalties and dominated certain aeras built up huge leads then took the gas off.

We have fine talent but lacked structure,direction from management in playing as a team throughout all a match..We have one year left this set up,i hope it is the last.
Watch these lads thrive at u21.
congrats to dublin,a fine well coached team but Donegal can beat them.

Douglas football has real talent the next few years,with Hanahrahan, the two Cadogans,Kingston,Power,Flahive etc but they may struggle with dualism.

Its been a tough week to post regards Cork teams,u21,senior, minor as I saw real talent but as fully justified by their poor managerial records,i had little hope for the teams.I run the risk of being deemed a pessismst,but i am neither a pessismst or optimsit.Just a Realist for my Sins.

Thankfully the last three Cork teams.,the Senior Ladies,the.Intermediate hurlers and the Senior Hurlers I truly believe in Liam Hayes,JBM and Eammon Ryan.

While all those 3 teams have tough obstacles to overcome,I have a belief that.our talent is complimented by Competent managements so we at least enter those competions with a realistic chance,something sadly the Minor Footbaell,Senior Football and the U21 hurling did not imo have in their respective competitons.

thinkstoomuch1

Ladies minor on tg4 in a bit.
Best of Luck to the Cork girls in all ireland final.

thinkstoomuch1

Christ as if we did not reminding.Just listenenig 103 fm ,sports news just now. at 6,their sport update was meant to be gaa update of the minors etc but instead they made a right mess of it, as they played the full report by finbarr mccarthy of the Senior Munster football final shambles to Kerry a few weeks ago by mistake.

They made an error fair enough but twas torture reliving that Nightmare.

zetecescort

Ladies football is very enjoyable so far. Galway 1-14 Cork 3-8 20 min left

SeaFields

Have to agree. Its a very good game. Some lovely footballers on both sides.

zetecescort

Galway are defending champions and have finished strongly, obviously a very talented bunch of players. great effort from Cork and we'll be seeing alot of them play senior soon enough.

FT: Galway 3-21 Cork 4-12

ShamoBuc

Seriously enjoyable game of football.

thinkstoomuch1

That ladies game was one of the best games of open attacking fluent football i have seen in any code.

Superb tg4 showing it.A great final to showcase the fine sport it is.
No shame in that display by Cork to loose to a fine Galway team that were favourites.
Great to see Briege Corkery in the crowd there.
Moore who got two and scally got fine goals, and Casey who worked hard, and Ambrose from the senior team looked good imo,but i thought Maeve o sullivan the keeper had a fine game,saved two certain goals.
Looney looks a fine player also,unlucky not to get a goal.
Cork ladies football is alive and well and the future looks bright.

I thought for Galway Divilly who recovered after a knock was superb,as was tg4 best player the superb ward and Hynes their corner back who made a superb goal saving block but was terrfic driving forward and linking well with Divilly and Ward I throught.

I really enjoyed the game,both teams deserve immense credit for a high quality game.
Congratualations to Galway.

seligehgit

Gotta say TTM your knowledge of all things GAA is mindblowing!

wide ball

TTM great insight as usual - if u were picking minors for today what would your starting 15 have been, was there guys not involved that should have been on ?

thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »

The minors unfortunately as i feared lost today 1-13 to 2-14 and were beaten by four points but the win does not show how much better Dublin were.

Firstly,let me say we have super talent and credit to all the players for their,fantastic effort and commitment as young lads.

Management did not pick the best.team for this game not even the panel.Some of the changes then they made were strange to say the least.
Schoolboy management at best imo in the balance of half backs was a shambles in we had lads that like to attack and are superb attackers but cant defend.If Cian O'Donovan and Lordan were there from the start we would have won this imo as our full back would have been better protected and our attack getting a more constant supply of quaity ball.O Donovan came on close to half time for Hurley,things changed around,but Cork had conceded two goals by then and the damage was done by then.

Basquel tore us apart as did he's other two half forwards ,as they ran through us time and again and left our full back line exposed again and again and in impossible situations as Dublin created overlaps.

Power and Flahive in that line were brillant ,won a lot of ones v ones.
Flahive was captain fantasic,with Power also a real senior potential corner back.

Kiely and O Donoughe were good going forward but are not half backs and started their.

Lads heaven above we have some midfield prospect in Micheal Desmond.He single handely  Dublins midfield got superb long distance frees,superb kickpassing yet our management too him off.
Christ above.
He wasnt tiring imo,he is an Irish champion boxer twice,hes fitness is top class.And if fitness was a problem that is due to management incorrectly leaving him out of the panel for the ist two games.


He has it all,characther,guts,football intelligence,strength ,great.hands and balanced feet ,and Inner resolve.
At least working with a Real manager in Tony Leahy at club level he will develop further.

He has a lovely smooth kicking techinqie.I love watching hes legs in action,a great style of kick.


He will be on the u21 panel next year and Sean.Hayes and Gene O Driscoll will bring him on next year.
Rononaye of Clyda had a great game in the Dooher ,Galvin type role but imagine if Obegene was their.

Murphy thankfully went in to the corner and he was superb.
Kingston got a great goal,like in the hurling he is a Big game player.Such pace,strength and skill will make it as a Cork senior in either code.He has at senior got to choose one code.A great player.

Michael Hurley had a superb ist half,got injured and likely to be out for Castlehaven v Carbery. I Hope he recovers well.

Colm O Driscoll should not been dropped as he was excellent all year but Kidney had a superb.game,saved two goals, had good kickouts and what a characther.
The man from that great club Passage,shook hands with the basquel twice before he took the two penalties.


The ist one hit the post.A nice gesture by Kidney but it clearly spooked the majestic Basquel.
As the sayings go "kill them with kindness or keep your friends close and your enemies closer.
It was never seen before in gaa and was the same as the thomond park hush factor to opposing team kickers in rubgy.They never expected it so couldnt prepare for it as its rare.

Take a bow Anthony Kidney.You got the edge.Worth the admisson alone imo.

Cork played well but Dublin always had another gear and management didnt make correct changes.Dublin took the gas off but when we got to two points they drove on.
I geuinely believe if Billy Morgan or.James Mccarthy had this set up we would have beaten dublin and shook the all ireland.

I have no doubt these lads could win a Munster u21 title in 2016 if gene is in charge with hayes even though Jack may be with Kerry.

Flahive,Power,Kiely,Desmond,Kingston,Hurley have Real Senior Intercouny potential.The problem
Is who will be Senior Manager in four years time.
Murphy,Coakley,should also be monitored.

Before people get carried away and say management done fantatsic and unlike other years got to an all ireland quater finals,lets be realisic,that was mininum expectation as we had the easy side of the draw from day one.


Beat the worst Limerick minor team in years as all top footballers soley committed to hurling or else they would not even make the Hurling Panel.

I said it then we made hard work of an average Waterford team.
Beaten by Kerry and Dublin and flatteted by the scorelines as they both misssed or had penalties and dominated certain aeras built up huge leads then took the gas off.

We have fine talent but lacked structure,direction from management in playing as a team throughout all a match..We have one year left this set up,i hope it is the last.
Watch these lads thrive at u21.
congrats to dublin,a fine well coached team but Donegal can beat them.

Douglas football has real talent the next few years,with Hanahrahan, the two Cadogans,Kingston,Power,Flahive etc but they may struggle with dualism.

Its been a tough week to post regards Cork teams,u21,senior, minor as I saw real talent but as fully justified by their poor managerial records,i had little hope for the teams.I run the risk of being deemed a pessismst,but i am neither a pessismst or optimsit.Just a Realist for my Sins.

Thankfully the last three Cork teams.,the Senior Ladies,the.Intermediate hurlers and the Senior Hurlers I truly believe in Liam Hayes,JBM and Eammon Ryan.

While all those 3 teams have tough obstacles to overcome,I have a belief that.our talent is complimented by Competent managements so we at least enter those competions with a realistic chance,something sadly the Minor Footbaell,Senior Football and the U21 hurling did not imo have in their respective competitons.