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We can take what the former Goalkeeper says with a pinch of salt. His bitterness knows no end. As Landers said why doesn't he do something and get involved if he is so concerned. HiS GPA activities probably hinder him from contributing anything positive.
As president of the GPA shouldn't his time be limited to a few yrs term?? President of GAA, Camogie, Ladies football etc have a set term and move on then but This doesn't seem to be the case with GPA. Its probably too lucrative to let anybody else have the position.
It would be great if Cusack went to CCB meeting or Convention and aired all his views from that forum instead of being an attention seeker on tv which was not the correct platform.
Great post and you have hit the nail on the head.0 -
The also huge negative of sunday is all the talk is and now will be on the hurling,and cuthbhert fades away in the background immune from critisicm when the football has been a dissaster.
Dublins chairman andy kettle called for a review of dublin hurling after this year,no review will be called for cork senior football,u21 hurling etc and cork hurling as a wholw
Has the county board said anything regards sunday??0 -
I think James Horan's remarks after the Cork game may have backfired on him a bit. Larry Tompkins has launched a scathing attack on Mayo in today's Examiner!
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Larry tompkins is as a manager in hardly the best position to criticse any manager when he had bar one year a poor seven years in cork.where cork football hit new lows,beaten by sub standard teams,compared to corks rescources
Horan has done more in mayo than larry done in seven years in cork.
Mtichtestown as i said the night before here would be exposed by keel tactially and they were
Morgan in a higher grade of football doing very good with mtichelstown,i hope they win the county
Horan was completely right in.what he said and to snub cuthbherts handshake imo.0 -
He didn't criticse James Horan. He criticised the Mayo players. He gave an awful doing to Alan Dillon! I think it's no harm for Mayo to take some of their own medicine.
Horan was wrong to refuse to shake Cuthbert's hand. That showed a lack of class. It's a man's sport. You shake hands after a game and leave what happened before and during that game behind you. I could understand Horan being aggrieved if it was all lies but sure it was the truth!0 -
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »The also huge negative of sunday is all the talk is and now will be on the hurling,and cuthbhert fades away in the background immune from critisicm when the football has been a dissaster.
Dublins chairman andy kettle called for a review of dublin hurling after this year,no review will be called for cork senior football,u21 hurling etc and cork hurling as a wholw
Has the county board said anything regards sunday??
I was disappointed there was no half page pic of Frank swinging off JBM in Mondays Examiner like after last years semifinal:rolleyes:0 -
See tompkins views on management
The managers role is overesitmated.
"leadership must come from the players on the field"
That complete nonense,just there way covering up their failures as managers,blame the players.
How many times does cody blame hes team.None
He blames himself if they loose as he holds himself responsible for hes team,he is manager
A truly great,great,i mean great manager.
Leadership comes from management,then moves down to players.
We had the same this year,after.games,we told the players do x,y,z they didnt was the afterthought.
Maybee ask why they didnt do x,y,z
Could it be they were asked to jobs.
Akin to their skillset,and also as a te
am tactically outwitted before a ball was kicked
As for leadership,mayo dont lack leadership or stomach for battle at all,if so they wouldnt bounced back to get to two all ireland finals in a row,and a semifanal.What they lack is three naturally talented gifted forwards,theres a huge difference between leadership,and techinical ability.
Horan as mayo performing to their maxuim ability,he has no other forwards in the county though
Cork football on talent available imo is not achieving to its maxium ability.
I can keep try doing something, i.never give up,thats leadership,ultimately i may fail as unfortunatley i dont inhibit the skills within to perform a certain role.
Paul O Connell is a leader of All Men, but dont ask him run in a try from forty yards,not hes skillset,not hes fault.
The rare execption is Brian o driscoll,A leader of all men,but can tackle like a seven,run in forty yards tries,catch,kick,pass,and barge over like a forward for close in tries.He has leadership and techincal ability in all roles,if you asked him to scrummage hed do.a better job than a some.
Liam griffin in November 2008,in the Sunday Tribune(now gone)wrote an article in the paper Cork were in the middle of a strike then.
It had hes views on what management brings to any set up.A man of hes statute to bring Wexford their ist all ireland in 28 years and came from a small club,what he achieved makes me when he talks,I become like the way Arkle on Gold cup was enthralled by the roar of the crowd,hes ears pricked to Focus, I become.enthralled when proven all ireland winning astute managers like Griffin speaks ”Words of wisdom“.Hard to believe 6 years after winning a senior all ireland
he could not even get the Wexford minor job.Wexfords hurling loss it became. He knows too well how poor management affects teams,he saw it in wexford many times.
An extract of that piece from the once sunday tribune 2008
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Weak management is the curse of good companies. Many good, even great, companies have over the years gone down in a sea of red figures because of weak management. Weak or arrogant management is the curse of countries too; look at Ireland at the moment. Good management teams, on the other hand, are strong and show leadership and make a positive difference over time for everyone under their stewardship. Sure, they make mistakes. That's acceptable. But they don't repeat them over and over again.
Teams – all teams, no matter who or where they are – achieve in direct proportion to the leadership skills of their management. If the management has that ultimate quality, then the company or team will achieve maximum potential. But if the management falls short in this regard then recriminations and failure are inevitable.
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hes philospices on Charactersitcs of Management in general six years ago are imo true values of any good management at any grade that they must have.Thats why I always judge a team by who is in charge and why I rated:
The current Cork Minor Hurlers,U21 footballers,Cork Intermediate All ireland Champions,Senior Hurling Management(some calls I dont agree with)Clyda Rovers,Kilkenny ,Limerick minor hurling team ,kerry senior football and minor,Mayo and Dublin Footballers,Munster and New Zealand Rubgy,Corks Hurlings 3 in a row,Cork Ladies football,Any team with Billy Morgan Involved,Clare senior and u21 hurling,Wexford u21 and camoige with Jj Doyle,Wexford Senior Hurlers,Castlehaven football,Midelton u 21 hurlers,any team with both Ger Cunninghams involved,the Meath team under the imperious Sean Boylan,Any team under Micko,Newtown with Bernie Connor,any team with Liam Sheedy involved,
the list is endless......Amen so to speak but crucially all those Managements have a Common Demoniator,Good Managements,that hold all the principles of what the Great Liam Griffin said(easy see why dunne had him involved with him this year) that in a nutshell management holds the key to any teams success before a ball is thrown in.And as he said any manager will understandably make mistakes,that is a given in any sport.But it is the Repeated mistakes imo ,that gives me concern for next years with any set sup if it remains exactly the same.All those mentioned teams are acheiving their maxuim ability in fairness.
The laws of good management imo never change ,like a clock at Midnight in both hands strike 12 a certainy to stand the testatment of time ,A principle that wont change in any sport,in any code imo both past and in the eternal future.The sooner Cork gaa reliases that,the better it will become and only then will Cork Gaa become a Superpower and truly once and for all realise it's massive potential in both codes at all levels imo.
We must have good management at all levels,we make it so hard for ourselves,when yet it could be really that simple.0 -
I think the semi-final defeat to Tipperary last Sunday has really put the footballers into context. That was a humiliating defeat to Tipp. And it was the first time that I can think of that a Cork hurling team had a complete collapse. Defeats to Kilkenny in 2010 and 2012 were different because Kilkenny were still so strong, but Cork had the ability to at least be close to Tipp the last day. To be fair to Cronin, he has come in for unfair criticism cos he was not rightly fit and he wasn't the worst of the players. There were very few Cork hurlers the last day that performed. I also thought it was very strange from JBM after the game when he said that the cork players were comprehensively beaten the last day. That's pretty insulting to your players. I think JBM obviously believes in tough love.0
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Archer3083 wrote: »I also thought it was very strange from JBM after the game when he said that the cork players were comprehensively beaten the last day. That's pretty insulting to your players. I think JBM obviously believes in tough love.
Nothing strange about it really. Just telling it like it was.
Pretty hard to sugarcoat the Cork performance in fairness.0 -
Yeah, but normally managers don't say anything negative about their players. They normally say nothing much at all. I was surprised that he was so honest. I know he was right, just surprised he admitted it.Nothing strange about it really. Just telling it like it was.
Pretty hard to sugarcoat the Cork performance in fairness.0 -
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Thinkstoomuch----Ok can u tell me how many coaches the CCB should be employing? How often should each club/school expect a visit from the GDA'S in a perfect world?
Should the clubs be levied to employ more GDA's?
PUC needs a massive overhaul and anyone proposing otherwise is not tuned in.0 -
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We can take what the former Goalkeeper says with a pinch of salt. His bitterness knows no end. As Landers said why doesn't he do something and get involved if he is so concerned. HiS GPA activities probably hinder him from contributing anything positive.
As president of the GPA shouldn't his time be limited to a few yrs term?? President of GAA, Camogie, Ladies football etc have a set term and move on then but This doesn't seem to be the case with GPA. Its probably too lucrative to let anybody else have the position.
It would be great if Cusack went to CCB meeting or Convention and aired all his views from that forum instead of being an attention seeker on tv which was not the correct platform.
Cusack travells the lenths and breath of the country promoting the game of hurling, has been up in the North coaching and helping up there. He said exactly what many of us close to things have been saying for years, saying it where it would get most attention. He also has an article in the Examiner, but RTE would give the most coverage.
If he went into a CCB convention, he'd be ruled out of order right before he spoke, even if he was given a chance to speak. The meeting would be run so as to keep away from the point. Very easy to do so and manipulate a meeting.Thinkstoomuch----Ok can u tell me how many coaches the CCB should be employing? How often should each club/school expect a visit from the GDA'S in a perfect world?
Should the clubs be levied to employ more GDA's?
PUC needs a massive overhaul and anyone proposing otherwise is not tuned in.
See the problem is that the full underage working isn't seen - I know of quite a number of coaches who are working in schools, being paid by Cork GAA, but its a case of jobs for the boys. until a root and branch survey is done, then its going to be pretty poor. If I'm not mistaken, the countys development plan had a point about every club having a coach going into schools voluntarily, what sane person would see this happening in this day and age, when people are trying to hold onto jobs not being able to take time off. Age of volunteerism has waned, with fewer and fewer people willing to take things on
I love this point by ShannonCork’s own structures are not up to scratch. Dónal Óg was right on virtually everything he said last Sunday night. Don’t get so much hung up on the 20 pitches; the more pertinent point was the comparison with Dublin’s 50-plus development coaches. Last year was the only season in seven Cork haven’t exited the championship either meekly and/or prematurely, yet it seems losing the 2006 final by three points to the greatest team ever has been the only exit unacceptable to Páirc Uí Chaoimh.
There are plenty of excuses about the other defeats - but not this one. Last Sunday, it wasn't that Cork were out fought, but they just didn't put up any fight. Last year of a three year cycle, when a team is supposed to be building and this happens? I know teams can go out and have bad days, and things don't go right, but you still dig in if you have any bit of pride in yourself. I'm not sure was it fear of failure as well that caught Cork, but its still puzzling
Announced today that Ger Cunningham is taking UCC Fitz team next year, with Tim Crowley and former Cork physical trainer during the All-Ireland winning campaigns of 2004 and 2005, Sean McGrath. Also assisting the St Finbarr’s man will be Tom Kingston, Jim McEvoy and Noel Furlong. McEvoy was also involved around 04/05.0 -
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/08/20/cusack-echoing-sentiments/
Eammon muphys piece
A lot of truth and a great read imo
Two points though imo though
Why are not ex underage managers and current.managers also of underaged teams named in personand why cant they come straight out ,question purely as a manager pat kenneally and ger fitzgeralds record and others and why they got new terms after previous terms of no success.
The second point is cusack mentioned propoganda in relation at times with the echo,he surely has at times validiy in when cork beat tipp well in thurles u 21 in 2011 on a friday eveining,didnt the echo that saturday run with after that win,just one win ,
Have a photo of u21 player with a.headline ,,Crisis?...what crises
,when the hype went in to overdrive on just one win.
When they should of waited as like this year one win,one swallow never made a summer and also i said it at the time one cork reporter last year said cork hands were already on the cup before we played clared based on jbm magic 99 and a kind of we are cork scenario,when as kieran shannon said yesterday,we are cork myth to win a game on that alone isnt good enough in a now far more competive game than previous years
Id say cusack was hardly happy last year with frank besides jbm photo after beating dublin to make the all ireland final or bob ryan in.the team photo after the munster final win,reminds of ireland qualify for the world cup,mick mccarthy
see a repoter ,roy smile and shake.my hand,great for my image roy,take the pressure of me scenario
Where are the cork county board after the u21 hurling,senior and football defeats.
To be fair they are some decent sportswriters in the Echo.0 -
Thinkstoomuch----Ok can u tell me how many coaches the CCB should be employing? How often should each club/school expect a visit from the GDA'S in a perfect world?
Should the clubs be levied to employ more GDA's?
PUC needs a massive overhaul and anyone proposing otherwise is not tuned in.
My answer is one hundred.per cent in agreement with rebel.girls answer
So ill save myself typing you an answer
One point rg said a job for the boys scenario,shes rigjt its always the same old faces,teddy.maccarthy for example was doing coaching in ag north mon u 14 0r 15 this yeaar i think
What good is a stadium with out teams of excellence
Just bricks and mortar,that never won all irelands0 -
http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/08/20/board-increase-coaching-staff/
I cant help but feel a bit of spin doctoring to dilute cusacks critisim
11 imo hardly enough,pauide butlers said you would twelve in.cork city alone in hurling,,hes two nephews,doing outstanding work.charville cbs,won kinnane cup last year,a good chance in the dean and harty this year are teaching in charville.0 -
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thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »http://www.eveningecho.ie/2014/08/20/board-increase-coaching-staff/
I cant help but feel a bit of spin doctoring to dilute cusacks critisim
11 imo hardly enough,pauide butlers said you would twelve in.cork city alone in hurling,,hes two nephews,doing outstanding work.charville cbs,won kinnane cup last year,a good chance in the dean and harty this year are teaching in charville.
Its nonsense ttm, counting the CIT and UCC gaelic games officers is wrong - they coach only college players and have no input with ocallaghans plans and don't visit schools etc in that capacity - pure spin doctoring0 -
Its nonsense ttm, counting the CIT and UCC gaelic games officers is wrong - they coach only college players and have no input with ocallaghans plans and don't visit schools etc in that capacity - pure spin doctoring
They're not even employed by Cork GAA, they are totally under the control of Munster GAA, so as you say that is pure spin.0 -
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Article stinks of a hitback at Cusack - 11 for the county is ridiculous, and tbh, from what I;ve heard of the management, they are poor as well.
Iincluding UCC and CIT officers is pure spin, they work with colleges only, and not employed under CCB
An increase of ONE GDA is what the article says reading between the lines - lets all get out and applaud the CCB :rolleyes:
Award 1 - whoopdidoo - a piece of paper means absolutely nothing if the people are wrong, or are not good enough to coach at inter county level, makes no difference. And to have the courage to tell somebody, you are not good enough. Only AI winning managers would have their term continued the following year without question - everyone else should be up for a complete review of them and their team
I'd question with Dublin GAA are getting ISC grants, why didn't Cork apply for them??0 -
Its nonsense ttm, counting the CIT and UCC gaelic games officers is wrong - they coach only college players and have no input with ocallaghans plans and don't visit schools etc in that capacity - pure spin doctoring
Absoultely sean do they really think die hard grass roots cork gaa fans dont know a joker from an a ace of spades so to speak,they fool no one but themselves
Wait for teddy macarthy ,etc,to come out and defend the underage set up.There due an interview soon enough.
Is that ,the same reporter that wrote this?s,im not sure ,that wrote this that was most dissrespectful to tipp football,said cork would beat them by 18 to twenty points, and wasnt happy when creedon say cork were just a ten point aprox better team when cork fans know peter creedon is a fine coach
I fancied cork win in may that game eight or nine points if we picked the right team,no way close to twenty points
Kevin o callaghan does great work in fairness but should get more rescources imo
Noel hartigan,similar role in limerick gets great help from the limerick county board and does trojan,great work in fairness at underage,involved with u17 limerick ,with wallace involved etc
Limericks school and underage set up sean,coaching wise,funding,facilites,etc is simply awesome,i mean awesome ,no exaggeration sean imo.0 -
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A huge game in mallow tonight,newtown v ucc
Tough game to call but newtown with liam ryan could edge it,,but I feel ucc will win
But its hard to know what ucc team is.
Id expect coughlan to have a huge game and conor twomey is a fine hurler ,jack herihly.u 21 cork.full back in 09,onces he is in the half back line is a good hurler
A good coach ryan is,a local man,former player,successful with meelin
I like both teams.For different reasons id heistanyly say a ucc win,if they have a strong team starting.0 -
Cusack just hasn't any clue when it comes to getting his point across or diplomacy. He is just happy with confrontation.rebel girl 15 wrote: »Article stinks of a hitback at Cusack - 11 for the county is ridiculous, and tbh, from what I;ve heard of the management, they are poor as well.
Iincluding UCC and CIT officers is pure spin, they work with colleges only, and not employed under CCB
An increase of ONE GDA is what the article says reading between the lines - lets all get out and applaud the CCB :rolleyes:
Award 1 - whoopdidoo - a piece of paper means absolutely nothing if the people are wrong, or are not good enough to coach at inter county level, makes no difference. And to have the courage to tell somebody, you are not good enough. Only AI winning managers would have their term continued the following year without question - everyone else should be up for a complete review of them and their team
I'd question with Dublin GAA are getting ISC grants, why didn't Cork apply for them??
Still waiting to see how many GDAs we should have and how often ach club or school should be coached. Do u levy clubs etc. no need to deviate from the point. Short answers will do. Thanks0 -
Cusack just hasn't any clue when it comes to getting his point across or diplomacy. He is just happy with confrontation.
Still waiting to see how many GDAs we should have and how often ach club or school should be coached. Do u levy clubs etc. no need to deviate from the point. Short answers will do. Thanks
I don't know how much but in some way to answer you:
Paidi butler the man who has led the development of hurling nationally over the last decade has stated cork city needs 12 HURLING GDAs to cover the population there.
As for payment, the ccb has 10 million euro in a bank account, that will pay for a nice little chunk of extra gdas? they have got 30 million for the monument, simply reduce the size of the monument, scrap the joke/sham of a centre of excellent and use some of this 10 million earned by cork gaa members to pay for extra gda,s.
In addition to this perhaps ask clubs would they be able to contribute like in Dublin to assist with salaries hiring etc and of course do something we don't do and make a business case to the irish sports council and the munster council. As an example here limerick city got a dedicated gda for disadvantaged areas and north Kerry got a specific gda for hurling development.
There are loads of potential areas for attaining finance and rolling out a comprehensive system of development for underage gaa in cork.
Perhaps we could start with giving enough funds to rebel og so that players coming from kanturk, beara, youghal etc to the marydyke could have their lunch paid for? in addition perhaps transport arranged for palyers from the city to get to mallow for games would also be a start?0 -
Cusack just hasn't any clue when it comes to getting his point across or diplomacy. He is just happy with confrontation.
Still waiting to see how many GDAs we should have and how often ach club or school should be coached. Do u levy clubs etc. no need to deviate from the point. Short answers will do. Thanks
I think he makes it quite clear the problems of underage structures in Cork GAA. He would get involved only CCB will not entertain is views, that's the trouble. He's not confrontational here he is telling it out in black and white the problems with Cork GAA and it's something we are all aware about.0 -
thinkstoomuch1 wrote: »A huge game in mallow tonight,newtown v ucc
Tough game to call but newtown with liam ryan could edge it,,but I feel ucc will win
But its hard to know what ucc team is.
Id expect coughlan to have a huge game and conor twomey is a fine hurler ,jack herihly.u 21 cork.full back in 09,onces he is in the half back line is a good hurler
A good coach ryan is,a local man,former player,successful with meelin
I like both teams.For different reasons id heistanyly say a ucc win,if they have a strong team starting.
Good match Newtown 1-19 Ucc 0-21 as a neutral an excellent game of hurling john Paul king man of the match aged 32 and was superb0 -
Ucc beaten a point by newtownshandrum ,21 points to newtown 1-19 ,i said it would be close,newtown and could edge it,i fancied ucc on the basis of picking a strong team ,they did but prengerast and adrian breen huge loosses for them
Twomey,herihly,coughlan who I mentioned before hand had fine games,twomey up ,doing well as a 19 year old against top players and continues to get better.
Newtwon still produce lovely hurlers.
Harnedy got a nice few points was a man on a mission after sunday.
Griffin limerick ,lively player,good game, i think im not sure but think he won freshers with ucc
Cormac murphy,done well.Herihly hurled a lot of ball,coughlan very good,unbelivabe,touch,pace,tenacity.
Im dissapointed Colm spillane is played in the fowards,seems to be seen as one in all teams this year.Id prefer him as a back.
Everthing i said regards coughlan last week about he better in the half forward line,not full forward line evident again,so creative he is.
On tonights display no way should he be cut from the cork panel.
Naughton had a fine game good goal,superb club man,club team of the year,but does not warrant a call up to cork before people get carried away one.of the finest club hurlers to ever play in cork though,skill,touch,pace,second to none.
King was very good also.
Liam ryan has done like I said he would when he got the job,united newtown,brought their values back on the field and the players are fully behind him,will improve again after this game
A fine ucc team,ger cunningham done well with them,hard to bring and blend a team of intercounty stars together in a club spirit in a short time,but he done it,all credit due to him.
Congrats to in the county.u 16 hurling final to sarsfields,sounds by the scoreline a classic 1-20 sars to na piarsaigh 1-17 as both me and you seventh expected.
Any report from the match Seventh please????
Smith,my apologies for not responding earlier imo,20 ,full time gdos would be a start for hurling alone and i think eammon murphy in the link i provided said a tax on clubs be worth looking at,they gain imo,as there club players get better coaching,for you that means they become better hurlers
There are around 93 hurling clubs alone in cork.
Limerick must have around 60 hurling?? clubs,around seven or 8 full times gdos,not as large geographcially ordiverse like cork in size five is not enough in cork.
Kerry have around 12 hurling clubs two full time hurling gdos i think.
Corks numbers just dont add up imo.Id agree with sean.Good answer imo.
Also Why do strong opinated people be labelled as confrontial?
Imo it just an easy way to dismiss them cause they simply ask difficult questions and go at times against the popular grain or old school of thought.
Just one question please Smith ,how would rate the current underage structure in cork?? Thanks .
Sean ,Who would you bring in as a selector next year as cunningham was never replaced.
If jbm stays i think he will bring in a new face.0 -
12 GDAs for cork city , ah here who in there right state of mind would go along with this. Im still looking to answers for my questions.
By the way the set up in Cork is a shambles but not sure if GDAs are the full ancswer. The schools are a huge prob and no matter how many GDAs we get it wont solve anything by just popping in and out of schools whenever they feel like it. The county is too big for rebel og to work, clubs are tired of travelling huge distances for underage matches. I am in no way a supporter of the CCB but just think it simplistic to think throwing money at everything that's wrong will solve it.0 -
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12 GDAs for cork city , ah here who in there right state of mind would go along with this. Im still looking to answers for my questions.
By the way the set up in Cork is a shambles but not sure if GDAs are the full ancswer. The schools are a huge prob and no matter how many GDAs we get it wont solve anything by just popping in and out of schools whenever they feel like it. The county is too big for rebel og to work, clubs are tired of travelling huge distances for underage matches. I am in no way a supporter of the CCB but just think it simplistic to think throwing money at everything that's wrong will solve it.
So Smith.....how would you do it? What do Cork need? Who do Cork need? How do you solve the problems with schools and rebel óg?0 -
12 GDAs for cork city , ah here who in there right state of mind would go along with this. Im still looking to answers for my questions.
By the way the set up in Cork is a shambles but not sure if GDAs are the full ancswer. The schools are a huge prob and no matter how many GDAs we get it wont solve anything by just popping in and out of schools whenever they feel like it. The county is too big for rebel og to work, clubs are tired of travelling huge distances for underage matches. I am in no way a supporter of the CCB but just think it simplistic to think throwing money at everything that's wrong will solve it.
I agree to a point
But you got anawers
20 to starr with
Every gdo takes ownership four clubs aprox
Full time means spend as much tine as necessaey
You cant define hurli.g training in time alone
Money is necessary as rg said,you cant expect in this say and age volunteers to do it alo.e
Cork gaa is one of the wealthiest in the country,made a load from bruce concerts kast year
And got a nice amount of revenue last year from the all ireland run
It not just throw money,its invest it,and time with the will like sublin gaa to do so ,would make a huge difference
All peoplw want is the underage structure to improve,no one surely can deny its far from perfect.
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I agree with a lot of things . Im not here to knock Cusack or anything like that. the CCB are definitely a crowd who don't like spending/.investing money in underage coaching/promotion. I attended a course by a GDA in last few weeks and it was mediocre at best, little enthusiasm from the coach it was obvious it was a job and not a labour of love. If clubs could be grouped together and made contribute to a successful GDA it would be great. Clubs wont want to contribute a few 1000s each but yet the same clubs have no problem paying a coach 8-12000 per yr for a coach for their clubs most senior team. I think clubs paying this kind of money need to be looked at as it is mad and could do super underage work .0
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