Irish income "third highest in EU"

enda1

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

Who do you mean by "those coasting by paying very little towards society"?

You answer at least one of my questions and I will answer yours. You have to give something in this society to get something back

dpe

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

What justified Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen or Enda Kenny earning more than Barack Obama?

Nothing at all. But don't confuse overpaid politicians and civil servants with endemic wealth inequality.

mikom

Suryavarman wrote: »

Considering Tubridy earns 50 times as much as Paddy I think it's fair to say that Tubridy's work is far more productive and deserves to be paid more than Paddy and probably many times more than him.

I disagree.
Unless singing "The wheels on the bus" on the radio counts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoIjQTkmRhE

Einhard

In other news: Many people on this threead don't seem to understand the concept of "average".

Einhard

Cill Dara Abu wrote: »

What justified Bertie Ahern, Brian Cowen or Enda Kenny earning more than Barack Obama?

Enda Kenny doesn't earn more than Barack Obama. What justifies you making things up?

iamwhoiam

Suryavarman wrote: »

Seen as i don't know who Tubridy or Paddy are and i don't know what they do for a living it's a bit hard to tell who works harder. Considering Tubridy earns 50 times as much as Paddy I think it's fair to say that Tubridy's work is far more productive and deserves to be paid more than Paddy and probably many times more than him.

You think Tubridys work is more productive than a surgeons or bus driver or carer of kids with special needs ? I dont .

Suryavarman

mikom wrote: »

I disagree.
Unless singing "The wheels on the bus" on the radio counts.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoIjQTkmRhE

As cringeworthy as that is, it is still very productive work as it goes towards making money for RTE. Sadly if Paddy were to do that while he was working, it probably wouldn't be productive at all because it wouldn't be making any money for the company he works for.

Einhard

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You think Tubridys work is more productive than a surgeons or bus driver or carer of kids with special needs ? I dont .

Well, I s'pose it depends on how you define productiveness. Obviously, Tubridy isn't saving any lives in what he's doing, but then few of us are. He might though, be making huge amounts of money through advertising for his employers, which is ploughed into other sectors of the organisation, and which he would probably argue justifies his large wages.

Just playing devil's advocate here...

Suryavarman

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You think Tubridys work is more productive than a surgeons or bus driver or carer of kids with special needs ? I dont .

If you don't think it's more productive work, then start paying more for these peoples work or stop people from listening to Tubridy's radio show, until then Tubridy's work is more productive, whether you think so or not, simply because it makes more money.

mikom

Suryavarman wrote: »

As cringeworthy as that is, it is still very productive work as it goes towards making money for RTE. Sadly if Paddy were to do that while he was working, it probably wouldn't be productive at all because it wouldn't be making any money for the company he works for.

Yes Tubridys disastrous JNLR results bear this out.............
His show is hemorrhaging listeners, so please try again.

Suryavarman

mikom wrote: »

Yes Tubridys disastrous JNLR results bear this out.............
His show is hemorrhaging listeners, so please try again.

If his show is haemorrhaging listeners then his work will become less productive and he should earn less but since RTE is owned by the state and is allowed to run at a loss he'll probably be allowed to keep his high wages.

MungBean

Suryavarman wrote: »

If his show is haemorrhaging listeners then his work will become less productive and he should earn less but since RTE is owned by the state and is allowed to run at a loss he'll probably be allowed to keep his high wages.

Meaning the productivity of his work doesnt actually matter.

mikom

Skunkle wrote: »

Meaning the productivity of his work doesnt actually matter.

Nail/head.
His productivity may as well be ether.

He exists......... has rose to a highly paid non productive station......... and knocked the average wage right out of whack.
Still, the wheels on the bus must go round and round, round and round........

Suryavarman

Skunkle wrote: »

Meaning the productivity of his work doesnt actually matter.

If RTE was privately owned productivity would matter but it is owned by the state so being friends with the right people is more important.

Yahew

Suryavarman wrote: »

If RTE was privately owned productivity would matter but it is owned by the state so being friends with the right people is more important.

Its easy to measure Turbidy's productivity though - his show also sells ads. And although in the State sector RTE is, to a certain extent, market driven because it does sell adds ( in fact the BBC is market driven as well, as with successful shows like Dr. Who). This stuff is measurable.

Some of RTE's output is designed to run at a loss, or be subsidised by the licence fee, but probably not the big hitters.

Shane732

Sanjuro wrote: »

Not really that surprising. Since we're intent on ripping ourselves off with incredibly expensive food, utilities, public transport, etc, we need high wages to pay for it. Add to that the Irish mentality of entitlement, and that'll drive wages up too. Sometimes this country really pisses me off.

Yawn.....