Orientation Guides

Skyrim

Anybody else apply for this? Just wondering if you heard back for it? Thanks.

tazbars

Hey I did. Got a call off Denis Murphy last thursday interview tommoro!

Mossin

Interview???

I was a guide for 2 years and never went through an interview process....load of nonsense imo....


Let us know what was asked!

SarahBeep!

Mossin wrote: »

Interview???

I was a guide for 2 years and never went through an interview process....load of nonsense imo....


Let us know what was asked!

Love the fact you're on the other side of the world and still wanna know :P

Skyrim

Thanks for letting me know. Say i may as well forget about it now. Bit strange that you have to go in for an interview, really stretching it out.

Catch15

Skyrim wrote: »

Thanks for letting me know. Say i may as well forget about it now. Bit strange that you have to go in for an interview, really stretching it out.

I'd say the interview was for people that hadn't been guides before or something to that effect. In years gone by, people who would be perfectly good guides didn't get the job while some that got hired were the type to sneak home and sleep for the day (not me, but I can name two!). At least this way those who get glowing references can be met in person and those in charge can decide whether or not to hire them.

DJCR

Mossin wrote: »

Interview???

I was a guide for 2 years and never went through an interview process....load of nonsense imo....


Let us know what was asked!

Sounds like a waste of time and creating jobs for the boys imo.... Total waste of time and money.

tazbars

just thought you'd like to know what went on in the 'interview' basically 20 of us were put in a room and introduced to one another and then the leader of guides talked us thru pay,dates and duties. More of a meet and greet really

Skyrim

tazbars wrote: »

just thought you'd like to know what went on in the 'interview' basically 20 of us were put in a room and introduced to one another and then the leader of guides talked us thru pay,dates and duties. More of a meet and greet really

Cool, sounds straightforward pretty much. Hopefully might get an email about it next week.

ninty9er

DJCR wrote: »

Sounds like a waste of time and creating jobs for the boys imo.... Total waste of time and money.

How do you make that out?

tazbars

yeh bit of a random comment...plus im a girl. My student guide experience was fantastic, they showed me around and got me talking to other people. They are you first point of contact with the college. Otherwise the whole first few weeks of college would be very daunting

ned14

Just FYI.... Got a call from Dennis today to say I've got a job as a guide so don't give up on hearing from them yet.

TwilightFan88

from whom i have seen getting one of these positions - very much a 'click' just like students union as always!

SarahBeep!

TwilightFan88 wrote: »

from whom i have seen getting one of these positions - very much a 'click' just like students union as always!

Oh lord, not this again

tazbars

such a false assumption, im no way involved in the students union or any relative clubs/socs - guides are picked at random

Skyrim

Ah its just luck of the draw if you're selected.

ninty9er

Just to put any such crap to bed, neither myself nor Tara, nor Paddy were available to interview. We were asked and the lads may have popped the head in to see how it was going, but if you think that being in the "click":rolleyes: gets you somewhere why not come and see for yourself.

Mossin

Only cos I know that being an Access Student Ambassador got you put ahead of the line means that its not as random as the SU would like to suggest, hence the meaninglessness of the so called interview that has taken place imo.

There are skills required, but if the SU wants to hire the perfect guides, then the system is flawed, cos people lie like Fcuk to get what they want, and then get drunk for 5 days when they should be offering greater assistance to 1st years....you all know its true, and I've been a part of that too, so I'm no saint, but dont paint the picture of the SU selecting at random and that they dont look after their own.....of course people who have no affiliation with the SU get offered positions, if they didnt, there wouldnt be enough guides!

DJCR

ninty9er wrote: »

How do you make that out?

Student ambasadors, students in connect class reps and people involved in clubs and socs are the type of students that are selected.

Not because they are in the "click" but because they are the ones who genuinely have an interest and are naturally disposed to working with people.

So why interview people "you" (royal you) know are suitable for the job. Save the money and just interview people your not sure about.

Any new cool stuff planned for orientation this year? I like hot dogs!!

ninty9er

Mossin wrote: »

Only cos I know that being an Access Student Ambassador got you put ahead of the line means that its not as random as the SU would like to suggest, hence the meaninglessness of the so called interview that has taken place imo.

There are skills required, but if the SU wants to hire the perfect guides, then the system is flawed, cos people lie like Fcuk to get what they want, and then get drunk for 5 days when they should be offering greater assistance to 1st years....you all know its true, and I've been a part of that too, so I'm no saint, but dont paint the picture of the SU selecting at random and that they dont look after their own.....of course people who have no affiliation with the SU get offered positions, if they didnt, there wouldnt be enough guides!

The SU doesn't hire the guides. It never did.

Mossin

The SU has no say whatsoever in it? Or is it just coincidence that alot of people affiliated with the SU are in charge or get the job...

ninty9er

Mossin wrote: »

The SU has no say whatsoever in it? Or is it just coincidence that alot of people affiliated with the SU are in charge or get the job...

What happens is we're one of a number of groups asked if there's any reason not to give someone a job. If they've never come up on our radar we won't know so won't comment.

Before I was elected I was asked to do this in my capacity as a senior guide from the previous year for repeat applicants, so it generally has nothing to do with the SU, we could do with having the people for our own stuff that week.

Cossax

Mossin wrote: »

The SU has no say whatsoever in it? Or is it just coincidence that alot of people affiliated with the SU are in charge or get the job...

When it comes to hiring, I'm fairly sure that's Student Affairs rather than SU though I'm sure there's plenty of people involved in the SU who end up as guides - it's a no brainer really.

OfftheWagon

Like any other job it boils down to a few things such as skill set, experience and personality. Yes there are always a number of people hired with affiliations to the SU but also you’ll note a number of people hired that are involved in the football, soccer, hurling, rugby..etc clubs also a lot of people from some of the various charity groups and organisations that operate in and around UL and Ireland. What is the common denominator here ?? People that are used to working in teams, proactively trying to achieve something together, positive and confident communicators that can respect their audience as individuals. Experience like when applying for any other job is key, who would you trust more someone who has never worked before and someone who donates a few hrs a week working with disadvantaged kids in a deprived area of Limerick city. Conscientious people that give a flying **** will always succeed – If people are unhappy they didn’t get a job this year, bare in mind 100s applied, pick yourself up and make yourself more attractive to employers.. focus on the big picture.

Mr. K

It seems prudent to interview people that they aren't familiar with. They can't have someone making a mockery of orientation, it'd be a poor start for first years.

And it's "clique", not "click".