sick twisted excuse for a human being

borderlinemeath

I physically felt sick when I read this.
He has been described as "a savage" and that's too good a term for him.

http://www.independent.ie/national-news/dog-breeder-put-puppies-through-mincer-to-feed-ferrets-2806779.html

By Gail Henderson

Monday June 27 2011

A cruel dog breeder disposed of dead puppies by putting them through a mincer, it was claimed at a court hearing.
Shamed Henry Williamson pleaded guilty to six charges of causing unnecessary suffering to puppies and dogs.

The case has horrified the animal cruelty inspectors who have described Williamson as callous and savage. Lisburn City Council said the cruelty case was one of most serious its dog wardens have ever witnessed.

Stephen Philpott of the Ulster Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals (USPCA) told how he saw “blood, guts and animal fur” in a mincer at Williamson’s filthy premises and also believes still-born pups were fed to ferrets at the site.

Williamson, from Barnfield Road, Dunmurry, Northern Ireland pleaded guilty to keeping an unregistered breeding establishment and six charges of unnecessary suffering to puppies and dogs.

The 69-year-old is due to be sentenced at Lisburn Magistrate’s Court next month but local USPCA boss Stephen Philpott says the animal welfare organisation would be “more than happy” if he is banned from keeping animals for life.

After the case shamefaced Williamson told Sunday Life he was innocent of all charges and denied puppies had been minced or fed to ferrets.

USPCA chief Mr Philpott was prepared to give evidence at the trial which was scheduled for last Tuesday.

Instead, he and other witnesses watched as Williamson finally admitted the charges.

Mr Philpott, who has been Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of the USPCA for 20 years, told Sunday Life of his disgust when he went to Williamson’s home on February 24 last year.

He rushed to the premises after receiving a call from a horrified member of the public who claimed dead puppies were being put through a mincer. Mr Philpott advised the caller to phone police and when he arrived at the premises other USPCA staff and police were already on site where they found over 60 dogs in makeshift pens.

Mr Philpott said: “I noticed immediately that due to the layout of these structures that during cleaning, waste materials would have had to flow into the adjoining pen.

“Some of the animals had scalds on their feet and I believe this is caused by urine flowing freely from the pens.”

He said many of the animals had skin and ear irritations - possibly caused by mite infestations.

“I am in no doubt that the environment in which they were being kept and the absence of the most basic animal hygiene requirements were contributing to this,” he said.

Mr Philpott believes it was a dog factory where the animals were kept purely for profit.

“I was there and I know what I saw,” he said.

“We believe that if one pup wasn’t fit to go in the shop window he disposed of it in what we would call a very, very callous manner.

“He wasn’t one bit interested in the dogs — he was only interested in what came out of their wombs. That’s all he cared about: what was pregnant and what gave birth.

“When I got there there was blood, guts and animal fur in that mincer and I firmly believe animals were put through that mincer.

“It’s like an apple farmer working out which apples he’s keeping and which ones are rotten and will be turned into cider.

“We also removed half-eaten carcasses, which we believe to be still-born pups, out of the ferret enclosure.

“Every shortcut that was possible to take to maximise profit was being taken. The animals weren’t even being given proper food. It was just awful.”

During the visit Williamson revealed his breeding establishment license had been suspended because Lisburn City Council required significant work to be carried out.

Mr Philpott said Williamson initially told him the name of the vet he used but when he contacted the surgery they told him Williamson was not known to them.

“I believed it would be impossible to keep this number of dogs and their resulting offspring without regular input and advice from a competent veterinary surgeon,” he said.

“Eventually he [Williamson] admitted that while he had been in that practice purchasing medication for his animals this was done over the counter without any form of examination or site visit taking place.”

Mr Philpott recommended that the animals requiring veterinary attention should be removed that night.

He said: “At this point Mr Williamson became very agi

tated and insisted that the USPCA take away all the dogs and he cited health problems as an excuse which prevented him from complying or looking after the animals as per the current legislation.

“I told Mr Williamson that due to the lateness of the hour and the fact that the entire area was experiencing a power failure it was not possible to evacuate the animals that night but my staff, Lisburn dog warden and police would return in the morning to remove all animals.

“I instructed my staff to remove two spaniels and three ferrets for immediate veterinary treatment that night.”

Mr Philpott said he and his staff were horrified at the “naked commercialism” of the place.

“Just think of the whole thing as a dog factory made up of makeshift pens and doors, salvage and scrap. The animals were being kept in there in the dark being bred and re-bred.

“Those are the actions of a savage. The USPCA would be more than happy if Mr Williamson had nothing more to do with animals for the rest of his life.” A spokeswoman for Lisburn City Council said: “This case is one of the most serious acts of cruelty that the Council dog wardens have witnessed.

“Council Officers assisted the PSNI in the investigation and the Council would support a lifetime ban from keeping dogs being imposed in such cases.”

Williamson later told our reporter that none of the dogs or ferrets on the site belonged to him and denied that puppies had been minced or fed to ferrets. He added he would be happy if he received a lifetime ban from keeping animals.
- Gail Henderson
© Belfast Telegraph

Zapperzy

While I agree that this is a sick excuse for a human being how do they come to the conclusion that blood and fur in a mincer must mean dead pups were put through it? And presuming that they were pups and that they were dead when being put through or being given to the ferrets what difference does it make to burying the dead pups or throwing them in a bin? The pup doesn't suffer anymore.

There are hundreds of these sort of operations running throughout the country and tbh 60 dogs and some ferrets isin't exactly the biggest puppy farm operating.

The absolute minimum he and every other puppy farmer caught should get is a lifetime ban from keeping animals, a nice big fine and some time behind bars.

easyeason3

I really could have done without reading that article :mad::mad::mad:

I must have a chat with my lad & make him aware of the luxury life he leads.

mjcom4d

But they were dead

Doom

mjcom4d wrote: »

But they were dead

Would you like if someone put your body through a Mincer when you die :rolleyes:

ISDW

Doom wrote: »

Would you like if someone put your body through a Mincer when you die :rolleyes:

Honestly? It wouldn't bother me, I'd be dead.

The man in the article does sound like scum, because of the way that he treated the animals he had there, but I have no issue with someone feeding one dead animal to another, as long as the animal was killed humanely obviously. A lot of people feed their dogs raw meat, and mince would usually be a part of that. Even for those that feed kibble, the meat has to get into the process somewhere along the line.

borderlinemeath

This is the part that I find most disturbing:

“We believe that if one pup wasn’t fit to go in the shop window he disposed of it in what we would call a very, very callous manner.

“He wasn’t one bit interested in the dogs — he was only interested in what came out of their wombs. That’s all he cared about: what was pregnant and what gave birth.

“When I got there there was blood, guts and animal fur in that mincer and I firmly believe animals were put through that mincer.

“It’s like an apple farmer working out which apples he’s keeping and which ones are rotten and will be turned into cider.

“We also removed half-eaten carcasses, which we believe to be still-born pups, out of the ferret enclosure.

It indicates that he did actually kill some of the pups if they weren't up to standard as well as feeding the still born pups to ferrets.

I'm not a breeder but can anybody tell me how many pups being stillborn is considered normal?

Oranage2

borderlinemeath wrote: »

This is the part that I find most disturbing:

“We believe that if one pup wasn’t fit to go in the shop window he disposed of it in what we would call a very, very callous manner.

“He wasn’t one bit interested in the dogs — he was only interested in what came out of their wombs. That’s all he cared about: what was pregnant and what gave birth.

“When I got there there was blood, guts and animal fur in that mincer and I firmly believe animals were put through that mincer.

“It’s like an apple farmer working out which apples he’s keeping and which ones are rotten and will be turned into cider.

“We also removed half-eaten carcasses, which we believe to be still-born pups, out of the ferret enclosure.

It indicates that he did actually kill some of the pups if they weren't up to standard as well as feeding the still born pups to ferrets.

I'm not a breeder but can anybody tell me how many pups being stillborn is considered normal?

family use to breed Yorkis and you'd always lose one or maybe 2. bigger dogs have better success rates usually not losing any.

doctor evil

I don't agree with puppy mills but if the pups were already dead or were put down humanely than what is the problem? Waste not want not.

I feel the hoo-haa about the mincer is more of a shock tactic and draws attention away from the main issue.

borderlinemeath

ISDW wrote: »

Honestly? It wouldn't bother me, I'd be dead.

The man in the article does sound like scum, because of the way that he treated the animals he had there, but I have no issue with someone feeding one dead animal to another, as long as the animal was killed humanely obviously. A lot of people feed their dogs raw meat, and mince would usually be a part of that. Even for those that feed kibble, the meat has to get into the process somewhere along the line.

Was just thinking about this further last night.

What if the puppies were sick before they died/were pts/minced. The infection goes directly into the food chain.

ISDW

borderlinemeath wrote: »

Was just thinking about this further last night.

What if the puppies were sick before they died/were pts/minced. The infection goes directly into the food chain.

That is a very good point.

I do think that doctor evil's point is very valid though, the bit about the mincer is detracting from the rest of the article about how the man treated the animals in his 'care'. Big whoop, he'll be banned from keeping animals, not exactly a punishment is it.:mad:

borderlinemeath

ISDW wrote: »

That is a very good point.

I do think that doctor evil's point is very valid though, the bit about the mincer is detracting from the rest of the article about how the man treated the animals in his 'care'. Big whoop, he'll be banned from keeping animals, not exactly a punishment is it.:mad:

I would rather they used shock tactics and got as big a headline as possible or even front page news if it meant more people read it and became aware of the cruelty that these type of people force on animals.

ISDW

borderlinemeath wrote: »

I would rather they used shock tactics and got as big a headline as possible or even front page news if it meant more people read it and became aware of the cruelty that these type of people force on animals.

but are people reading the rest of it, or just concentrating on the fact that he minced dead puppies? Need to go and reread the thread, but has anybody commented on the conditions that he was keeping the dogs in? Or have most people skirted past that to the mincer? That is the most important thing in my mind in the story, not what he did to the puppies after they died.

Evac105

mjcom4d wrote: »

I wouldn't like it but at the end of the day animals are for meat so this man isn't really doin anything wrong me thinks it's just this type of people from the Dublin area who no nothing about country life like the practice of drowning kittens there all like OMG so totes mortified little cute puppies got loike all minced up by one of those crazy country boiz so scarlet for them

Not all animals are for meat (in our cultural bias), the man was doing lots wrong (both legally and by many peoples ethics) and plenty of country people neuture their pets to prevent the need for 'the practice of drowning kittens' and the like. As one of the 'country boiz' I don't feel embarrassed by behaviour like the person in that article, I feel disgusted.

kildare.17hmr

i don't see a problem with the mincing or feeding the ferret ether but the over breeding and bad conditions described deserve a hefty sentence

mjcom4d

Look no matter how much people give a damn about animal cruelty it will still be there so I don't understand why ye do give out so much about Live animals bein treated badly that ye have ra go on about the dead ones to what do ye want a flippin burial for them

magentas

Sorry but I find the idea of putting a pup through a mincer pretty fncking sickening. I realise you couldn't bury every single pup that died but the complete lack of sensitivity and decency to put it through a mincer???

Whatever about feeding it to another animal it's all part of nature. How many stillborn pups could there have been anyway? The article says 60 dogs were found on site, say if that's 8 litters (litter of 7 and the bitch) and one pup from each litter were to be stillborn, that's still only 8 pups. The report, although it doesn't state figures, suggests to me that the number of dead pups (put through mincer or half eaten carcasses) is much higher than 8.

That's just what I'm getting from it.

Also, would it not be natural for the mother to eat her stillborn pups the same way she eats the placenta? I don't know much about it but when I was preparing myself for the worst when Nells pups were born, this is what tinternet threw up! (Thankfully her litter of 7 were all healthy!)

Anyway, this scumbag clearly has absolutely no regard for animals and should be jailed.

ppink

I think the very fact of him putting them through a mincer show the level of depravity he has to be honest. I would wonder if they were dead at the time, I know it says they were but who would know that except mincer man?? It takes a "special" type of person to raise animals in nasty conditions and then mince them of all things.
Anyway for the rest of it he should be locked away in a small cold dark cell for a long long time.
Freak:mad:

kildare.17hmr

I think you are all fixating on the mincing part of the story exactly like the paper it was written in wanted.. fact is people mince meat all the time be it beef from the butchers or venisin that has been hunted or even rabbits that have been hunted.

I personally would have been more worried if the report said the bodys of these pups were lying around the place which could lead to disese ect.

The main point is the terrible conditions the dogs were kept in

ppink

I have my own mincer and make my own generally and I have no problem with that.
I could not see myself putting a complete animal through it though, especially a dog. Who would even shoot rabbits and feed them hair and all through a mincer? Not your normal person thats for sure.

why do you think the paper wanted us to look at the mincing? do you think it takes some way from the rest of the story?

kildare.17hmr

If i was mincing rabbits for myself i would skin them first but for dogs, no id just give them whole.

I dont think it takes from the rest of the story i think to the average person reading it on their lunch break it makes him sound like a monster straight out of a horror film which makes the story more sikining to that average person. I wonder would the tital of the thread be the same if there was no mention of the mincer and feeding the ferrets?

I agree its a terrible story but i think the focus of it should be on the conditions the dogs were forsed to live in

borderlinemeath

kildare.17hmr wrote: »

I think you are all fixating on the mincing part of the story exactly like the paper it was written in wanted.. fact is people mince meat all the time be it beef from the butchers or venisin that has been hunted or even rabbits that have been hunted.

I personally would have been more worried if the report said the bodys of these pups were lying around the place which could lead to disese ect.

The main point is the terrible conditions the dogs were kept in

And as I pointed out previously - if the pups were sick the infection would be going directly into the food chain of the suffering animals.

The likelyhood is that the pups were either sick or killed by this man as the article stated that there were stillborn half eaten carcasses in the ferret pen.

I agree the conditions are horrific and the animals were mistreated but if the headline makes more people read it and become aware of this kind of puppy farming then it's doing it's job.

kildare.17hmr

borderlinemeath wrote: »

And as I pointed out previously - if the pups were sick the infection would be going directly into the food chain of the suffering animals.

The likelyhood is that the pups were either sick or killed by this man as the article stated that there were stillborn half eaten carcasses in the ferret pen.

I agree the conditions are horrific and the animals were mistreated but if the headline makes more people read it and become aware of this kind of puppy farming then it's doing it's job.

pups dont have to be sick to be stillborn so thats not likely to be the case, more likely they were just not strong enough because of the over breeding ect.

The point im trying to make is that the paper did not put that headline on it to make more people read it to be aware of these goings on they put it there because like i said its shocking to the average reader and they will sell more papers.

Any way we agree he should be severly punished so will we leave it at that?