Kerry vs Cork:Munster Final

paddy978

copacetic wrote: »

See below, there is no way the yellow was for the stamp, so it hasn't been ruled on. He'll be asked for clarification.

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Donaghy will be fine, as the GAA say themselves they do not discriminate on certain counties. Eamon O'Hara proved last year stamping is a non banable offence, the rules are the same for everyone according to the GAA. If that is the case why would Donaghy be banned?

sendit

keep going wrote: »

worst thing that happened today was c sheahans injury,hope its not cruciate.lucky noel hasnt the same injury after the star tried to do his cruciate.looked like cork were going through the motions,would it mean anything if they beat kerry today. will only count in croke park and even the kerry lads think the same

Funny how O Leary got up very fast once he seen Donaghy had been booked

munster87

Ha another Kerry ban on the way? :pac:

teednab-el

ShamoBuc wrote: »

I do see your point but.... the comeback against Dublin was unreal ( it felt unreal as I jumped around the Hogan Stand anyway:D) and the final for actually not bottling it in a final ( cue mad scenes of jumping around - Davin Stand this time!) How many other teams could have comeback like that against Dublin? or against Down? ( who had never lost a final!)
IMHO winning an All Ireland should not be considered lucky because we didn't beat Kerry! To be fair Limerick pushed us as hard if not harder than Dublin or Down - I did feel at the time that we were lucky to beat Limerick but that's where the luck stops for me.
We deserved to win Sam last year.

It was great to be on the right side of it. I will never forget it Hopefully now one day we are on the right side of beating Kerry in Croke Park. Until then its wishful thinking on my behalf.

homerjay2005

keep going wrote: »

did ye see tonight, look at his head he knew exactly what he was doing

that is not the point, the statement here was that he deliberately went to injure a player and damage his cruciate which is a crazy and disgrace...

the tackle was poor and of course, sunday game makes a deal out of it and yet another kerry player will be banned while players all over the country willl get away with it.

teednab-el

flahavaj wrote: »

Hopefully you're right, he deserves to be punished tbh.

I think what happened was that there was a wasp on Donaghys leg and Donaghy tried desperately to kick it away and hit Noel O Leary in the process.

The_Kew_Tour

sendit wrote: »

Funny how O Leary got up very fast once he seen Donaghy had been booked

Maybe he got tips from Aidan O Mahony:p

On serious note what Donaghy did was stupid and could have been serious, but I dont think he dirty player at all. Every player does daft thing now and again once he learns not do it again then I hope the matter is ended now.

Anyway it be shame to talk about a game which was played in sporting manner otherwise.

Anyway well done to Kerry better team won today.

Bogsnorkler

homerjay2005 wrote: »

that is not the point, the statement here was that he deliberately went to injure a player and damage his cruciate which is a crazy and disgrace...

the tackle was poor and of course, sunday game makes a deal out of it and yet another kerry player will be banned while players all over the country willl get away with it.

What a load ****!do not ratioalise scumbaggery. Gooch was acting the maggitt too, albiet in a very clever way which did win Kerry the match. Kinda.

The_Kew_Tour

Jesus this thread was going ok bar the odd stupid poster up until now.

Can people just talk about game rather then talking about few scuffles that were nothing...

It was a clean game in fairness dont let one incident and couple rather nothing incidents into a mouthful.

sendit

Also Kevin McStay was doing his absolute best to try and get the CCCC invloved and get Donaghy suspended.
If O Leary wasn't pulling and dragging Donaghy he wouldn't have to swing a foot at him to get him off him does he?

Also Ciaran Whelan reckons the likes of Dublin and Kildare will feel better tonight, he must have been dropped on his head as a child :rolleyes:

Bogsnorkler

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

Jesus this thread was going ok bar the odd stupid poster up until now.

Can people just talk about game rather then talking about few scuffles that were nothing...

It was a clean game in fairness dont let one incident and couple rather nothing incidents into a mouthful.

Apologies, massive respect to the Kerry effort the better team on the day even with key players missing.

But i felt a bit disappointed in the gamesmanship by the gooch, dragging yer man to the ground and holding him down to slow the game.

sendit

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

Apologies, massive respect to the Kerry effort the better team on the day even with key players missing.

But i felt a bit disappointed in the gamesmanship by the gooch, dragging yer man to the ground and holding him down to slow the g

If you looked closely at that you could see your man holding Gooch's shorts wile he was trying to get up

Stinicker

sendit wrote: »

Also Kevin McStay was doing his absolute best to try and get the CCCC invloved and get Donaghy suspended.
If O Leary wasn't pulling and dragging Donaghy he wouldn't have to swing a foot at him to get him off him does he?

Also Ciaran Whelan reckons the likes of Dublin and Kildare will feel better tonight, he must have been dropped on his head as a child :rolleyes:

McStay has proven himself time and again to be jealous so and so and really what happened with Kieran Donaghy and Noel O'Leary was a thing of nothing, Leary was acting Childish clining to Donaghy and Donaghy threw back the leg it was a non-incident considering some of the acts of violence we have seen out of Leary in the past.

A credit to both teams in what was a superbly clean game of pure sportsmanship, McStay is a jealous Mayo fool who never won nothing and neither will his team who will most likely will fall to the Rossies in two weeks time. He cannot acknowledge greatness only be bitter.

Stinicker

sendit wrote: »

Bogsnorkler wrote: »

Apologies, massive respect to the Kerry effort the better team on the day even with key players missing.

But i felt a bit disappointed in the gamesmanship by the gooch, dragging yer man to the ground and holding him down to slow the g

If you looked closely at that you could see your man holding Gooch's shorts wile he was trying to get up

Exactly he went for Gooch's groin area which riled up the Gooch who subsequently confronted him and was yellow carded, he did his team a great dis-service by accosting Colm Cooper when he did as it managed to break a very prominent period of Cork dominance, had he left Coopers wedding tackle alone the result might have been much different as Cork were in the ascendancy at the time.

I really can't see why one player has to prey on another mans genitalia on the field of play; Ryan McMenamin of Tyrone a while back was also guilty when he was caught on Camera giving Paul Galvin a very obvious pinch in the scrotum both incidents happened near the end of their respective games and I wonder is it some sort of cave man type thing to try and disable your opponents ability to procreate after they have defeated you in the field of battle? Rugby also is guilty of ball squeezers.

sendit

Stinicker wrote: »

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McStay has proven himself time and again to be jealous so and so and really what happened with Kieran Donaghy and Noel O'Leary was a thing of nothing, Leary was acting Childish clining to Donaghy and Donaghy threw back the leg it was a non-incident considering some of the acts of violence we have seen out of Leary in the past.

A credit to both teams in what was a superbly clean game of pure sportsmanship, McStay is a jealous Mayo fool who never won nothing and neither will his team who will most likely will fall to the Rossies in two weeks time. He cannot acknowledge greatness only be bitter.

Couldn't have said it better myself! Its not the first time he's been at that s*** eather, Cahill is no better is no better then him eather, highelight one incident and overlook others

johnr1

I have never been as happy to have been totally wrong as today

Great contest, Kerry were sublime for 35, then ran out of steam totally. Cork stank for 35, then got going, but ultimately had too much left to do, and didn't get the rub of the green when it mattered.
For what it's worth, I think Counihan made the better changes, apart from being too slow to move Canty out of where he was getting roasted.

Can somebody please tell me what the hell was Jack o Connor at with bringing in that great oaf Quirke, when Bryan Sheehan while not having a blinder was winning possesion and distributing it fairly well?:eek: It couldn't have been for fresh legs, Sheehan is well known to be among the fittest of the Kerry squad, and should well have had the legs to finish the game.
Barry John Keane nearly cost Kerry a couple of times, with his efforts to play the man and not the ball. Did he get a touch of the ball at all ?

We still have a few holes in defence, Tom Sullivan was suspect all day, and nearly caused a goal for Cork through being asleep, Mark was slow to get going, but seemed to come into it better as time wore on, but the one I'm most worried about is Kealy in goal. He pulled off a brilliant reflex save, but was caught out at least twice where Diarmuid Murphy would never have been. Miskella's shot should never have reached the post, and Mark's piece of fly-goalkeeping shouldn't have been necessary.

Now the good, Darren and Declan were just sublime to watch today, Declan must be one of the most natural footballers alive, and Darren has matured into a deadly threat to any backline. Donaghy filled a huge role today with the gooch missing in action, but that crack with Noel o Leary was unnecessary. I dont agree however that he would or should have got red carded if the ref saw it. O Leary was hanging on to his leg off the ground, I can only assume in an effort to upend him, and natural reaction is to kick away from this action. Better to have fell on his arse and leave the linesman to decide if o Leary had fouled him or not.

Cork people must be sick after their team not showing up for the first half at all, but I think we wont see a repeat of that again this year. They froze again under attacking football, and thrived when the pace slowed up in the second half. Sooner or later they will beat Kerry in Killarney, just not this year or maybe not till some of the current crop who have never truly believed themselves to be capable of beating Kerry retire. They have been on the recieving end of some severe beatings from Kerry over the years and that seems to have permanently damaged their belief.

Roll on the third Sunday in September, and with a bit of luck, we may have round #2 in Croker.

Bogsnorkler

Stinicker wrote: »

Ryan McMenamin was caught giving Paul Galvin a very obvious pinch in the scrotum .

Sher thats whats wrong poor Paul, still not over it!

I prescribe a pair of skinny jeans and career as a Radio Kerry "DJ" :P!

flahavaj

Stinicker wrote: »

sendit wrote: »

Exactly he went for Gooch's groin area which riled up the Gooch who subsequently confronted him and was yellow carded, he did his team a great dis-service by accosting Colm Cooper when he did as it managed to break a very prominent period of Cork dominance, had he left Coopers wedding tackle alone the result might have been much different as Cork were in the ascendancy at the time.

I really can't see why one player has to prey on another mans genitalia on the field of play; Ryan McMenamin of Tyrone a while back was also guilty when he was caught on Camera giving Paul Galvin a very obvious pinch in the scrotum both incidents happened near the end of their respective games and I wonder is it some sort of cave man type thing to try and disable your opponents ability to procreate after they have defeated you in the field of battle? Rugby also is guilty of ball squeezers.

Sure his jeans squeeze his balls tighter than that.:pac:

flahavaj

sendit wrote: »

Also Kevin McStay was doing his absolute best to try and get the CCCC invloved and get Donaghy suspended.
If O Leary wasn't pulling and dragging Donaghy he wouldn't have to swing a foot at him to get him off him does he?

Also Ciaran Whelan reckons the likes of Dublin and Kildare will feel better tonight, he must have been dropped on his head as a child :rolleyes:

They should be involved and he should be suspended. Pulling and dragging goes on in every game, you don't stamp on someone's standing leg as a result of it.

yerayeah

Good old win for Kerry, bigger days ahead but it's nice to be out of the qualifiers as they're looking dangerous this year. Was very pleased to see us do well at midfield in the first half but the fading in the second half is a concern, the lack of frees converted was odd, none of those missed were exactly easy but on another day you'd imagine they'd go over.

Hopefully TSG don't succeed in trying to derail us again this year, what Donaghy did was pretty stupid and not to be condoned but to suggest he deliberately set out to do Noel Leary's cruciate is pretty bizarre (and he didn't stamp on his knee, it was his thigh) but Leary shouldn't have been hanging on to him, a yellow was the correct call imo.

Cork will almost definitely be there on the bigger days in September and it's only a matter of time before they beat us when it really matters I fear (but we can always dream of Kildare/Tyrone/Down/AN other beating them before they get to a CP they are starting to look quite at home at!:pac::p)

Also, hope Sheehan's injury is not that bad, didn't see a replay myself but heard that it looked pretty bad, he's a fantastic operator, gave some display against our 21s this year...

rossie1977

flahavaj wrote: »

I thought once the ref had taken action on an incident on the field of play it couldn't be punished any further retrospectively? I think they said as much on commentary? I may be wrong though

He deserves at least 8 weeks IMHO.

once the ref takes action thats it, same with keith higgins last week, ref gave a yellow and thats it

cork might not have it as easy as some of the tv pundits would have us believe next round, they could meet the likes of kildare, tyrone or meath, either one of those would be mouthwatering

btw how much does quirke weigh, he wouldn't look out of place next to big john studd, hulk hogan and sid eudy on the pro wrestling circuit of the late 1980s

DDC1990

Donaghy was lucky but im sick of O'Leary acting up every Cork Kerry game.

Donaghy should know better then to stoop to that level. Should have been a Red, but hopefully nothing more will come of it. What happens on the field should stay there, no one was injured, and maybe O'Leary will think next time before swinging out of Donaghy.

Also I hope the Cork fans who had a go at O'Mahoney for Diving are taking a good look at themselves now with O'Leary's Oscar winner performance.

Anyway, good game in general. Kerry's first half performance was great, but they need to work on keeping it going for 70mins. Midfield disappeared in the second half. Forwards look fantastic. Backs played well on occasions, and while Brosnan provides great go forward momentum, Cork walked through the center far too often.

Dec, Darran, Donaghy and Cooper look class. Donnacha goes through a rake of work, and is worth his place on the team. Not convinced by Keiran O'Leary yet. Though he did have a good first half.

Cork kicked some great scores and wont be too bothered by the loss. They should beat anyone left in the qualifiers. When Nicholas Murphy comes back, then thats another option off the bench for them.

Delighted overall and hope it bodes well for the future.
Ciarraí Abú

cadea

On another note I hope Sheehan is ok, quality young player I would hate to see him seriously injured. It looked bad for him though

Paully D

Great game and the best team won.

However, how does Quirke get his game for Kerry? He looks like a fella you'd see in Junior C. Totally immobile and just a big fat lump!

Vunderground

Genuine question. Why is Cooper called 'Gooch'?
Thanks

sendit

flahavaj wrote: »

They should be involved and he should be suspended. Pulling and dragging goes on in every game, you don't stamp on someone's standing leg as a result of it.

You dont jump back up once the person has been booked eather....

Colm R

Looks like Cooper and Donaghy are in the clear.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/kerry-duo-escape-rap-511435.html

I was able to see the Cooper incident pretty clearly from where I was, and I thought it was a red card. I haven't brought myself to look at the game yet, so I won't comment on the Donaghy.

Either way it doesn't matter. I thought Kerry deserved to win. They played the much better football. Tactically, O'Connor has beaten Counihan again.

Alas, we go on. Perhaps, we'll meet again in August or September. But I think Dublin, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal and some others would not mind having a shot of us now.

sendit

Colm R wrote: »

Looks like Cooper and Donaghy are in the clear.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/kerry-duo-escape-rap-511435.html

I was able to see the Cooper incident pretty clearly from where I was, and I thought it was a red card. I haven't brought myself to look at the game yet, so I won't comment on the Donaghy.

Either way it doesn't matter. I thought Kerry deserved to win. They played the much better football. Tactically, O'Connor has beaten Counihan again.

Alas, we go on. Perhaps, we'll meet again in August or September. But I think Dublin, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal and some others would not mind having a shot of us now.

For what??

Fr Tod Umptious

Colm R wrote: »

Looks like Cooper and Donaghy are in the clear.

http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/kerry-duo-escape-rap-511435.html

I was able to see the Cooper incident pretty clearly from where I was, and I thought it was a red card. I haven't brought myself to look at the game yet, so I won't comment on the Donaghy.

Either way it doesn't matter. I thought Kerry deserved to win. They played the much better football. Tactically, O'Connor has beaten Counihan again.

Alas, we go on. Perhaps, we'll meet again in August or September. But I think Dublin, Tyrone, Derry, Donegal and some others would not mind having a shot of us now.

Well that article does not say much as to why they will escape anything from the CCC, Mc Stay mentioned some 'nuance' in the rules where the CCC may be involved here, the Examiner fails to clear it up as to they they won't though.

It even gets the name of the ref wrong, Reilly was the linesman not the ref.

I cannot see why Cooper is being mentioned in this either.

As for the game itself I think it really exposed Kerry and the fact that they do not have a squad to last an intense 70 mins.

They really ran out of steam in the the second half and if Cork had upped their game any bit in the first half then it would have been a completely different story.

When you have the like of Quirke coming off the bench to go into midfield then you a re really scraping the bottom of the barrel.

I am aware that T O' Shea and Galvin may be back for the next game but the squad is still paper thin.

In the quarters or semi-finals if a team go out and attack Kerry and not allow them to build a lead then Kerry may be in trouble.

Pappy o' daniel

It says something that a poor Cork playing in 2nd gear most of the game almost won this. Kerry showed real fear in the 2nd instead of kicking on and contining their brilliant play from the first half they tried everything to slow the game down, Donaghy went down injured about 4 times for about a minute each time.

And when Cork started running at them their defence shattered. I would have no fear about meeting Kerry later on their defense is there for the taking. As always midfield is the key, kerry won it this time.

And no comment from the sunday game at gooch's attempt at strangulation, they're well cowed after the blackguarding Tohill got last year. I wonder why Tohill is off the scene, for daring to speak out about Kerry?

corcaigh07

was the cooper incident on TV? still havent got a chance to see the sunday game yet.

from what i saw, there was pulling and dragging from both players, they both ended up on the ground, Cooper managed to get on top and clamp his hand on Denis O Sullivan's neck. as soon as more attention came on it, cooper threw his hands up and pretended to be innocent. it didnt look good at all and looked beyond anything a player should do to try and win a game.

i saw all of the O'Leary/Donaghy incident as well, O Leary was tussling with him and generally just pissing Donaghy off. what O Leary was doing was very needless and Donaghy retailated to it. The way O Leary hopped up after getting his way was also very childish. But it was a stamp from Donaghy and it was a nasty enough reaction.

O leary deserved a yellow, i would have given Donaghy red if it was unprovoked but since it was provoked, yellow was ok.

Id much prefer if the Cooper incident was looked at if there was enough cameras because that looked far more nasty than what Donaghy did.

TopOfTheRight

Vunderground wrote: »

Genuine question. Why is Cooper called 'Gooch'?
Thanks

Because he's an ugly **** :pac:

Colm R

sendit wrote: »

For what??

Denis O'Sullivan and Cooper were involved in a tangle, tussle over nothing really. But as O'Sullivan was on the ground, Cooper put his leg (knee) on top of him, and pushed his hand in to his chest and held it there for a few seconds.

Admittedly, from the angle I was at, it looked like choking. I found out after his hands were not around his neck. A Kerryman next to me was praying for a red card, because then the incident would be considered to have been dealt with there and then and not go to the CCCC. Obviously we know now that it will not go to the CCCC.

Either way, I don't think it would have made a difference. Kerry were the better team.

I do think we are capable of winning an All Ireland. But I'm not sure if we are capable of beating Kerry in Croker. I have a sore back from this monkey hanging on to my neck since 2002

sendit

Colm R wrote: »

Denis O'Sullivan and Cooper were involved in a tangle, tussle over nothing really. But as O'Sullivan was on the ground, Cooper put his leg (knee) on top of him, and pushed his hand in to his chest and held it there for a few seconds.

Admittedly, from the angle I was at, it looked like choking. I found out after his hands were not around his neck. A Kerryman next to me was praying for a red card, because then the incident would be considered to have been dealt with there and then and not go to the CCCC. Obviously we know now that it will not go to the CCCC.

Either way, I don't think it would have made a difference. Kerry were the better team.

I do think we are capable of winning an All Ireland. But I'm not sure if we are capable of beating Kerry in Croker. I have a sore back from this monkey hanging on to my neck since 2002

Denis O'Sullivan was also holding on to Coopers shorts wile he was trying to get up, alot of people seem to have missed that...

neveah

cadea wrote: »

On another note I hope Sheehan is ok, quality young player I would hate to see him seriously injured. It looked bad for him though

I heard from the doctor who treated him yesterday that his cruciate ligament is gone, he thinks he will be out of action for the rest of the season.

sendit

Also another point. The Corks backs yesterday was actually older than Kerrys but the media have not clicked that yet because it is easier to talk about Kerry having an ageing back line.

corcaigh07

Colm R wrote: »

Denis O'Sullivan and Cooper were involved in a tangle, tussle over nothing really. But as O'Sullivan was on the ground, Cooper put his leg (knee) on top of him, and pushed his hand in to his chest and held it there for a few seconds.

Admittedly, from the angle I was at, it looked like choking. I found out after his hands were not around his neck. A Kerryman next to me was praying for a red card, because then the incident would be considered to have been dealt with there and then and not go to the CCCC. Obviously we know now that it will not go to the CCCC.

Either way, I don't think it would have made a difference. Kerry were the better team.

I do think we are capable of winning an All Ireland. But I'm not sure if we are capable of beating Kerry in Croker. I have a sore back from this monkey hanging on to my neck since 2002

genuine question, how did you find out it wasnt choking? you must have been next to me at the game because it looked very bad from where was standing.

BUT overall Kerry were the better team and played the better football. we had a chance to get rid of the KIllarney monkey this team has since 1995 and didnt take it. can we really get rid of the Croker monkey, do Cork really believe we can beat Kerry in Killarney or Croke Park? i dont think they do.

Fr Tod Umptious

neveah wrote: »

I heard from the doctor who treated him yesterday that his cruciate ligament is gone, he thinks he will be out of action for the rest of the season.

Well if that's the case then it is another big blow to this Kerry squad.

A few pages ago he was being hailed by one poster as the best free taker in the land, so now not only do you have to have the likes of Quirke playing mid-field you also loose a free taker.

sendit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well if that's the case then it is another big blow to this Kerry squad.

A few pages ago he was being hailed by one poster as the best free taker in the land, so now not only do you have to have the likes of Quirke playing mid-field you also loose a free taker.

He plays for Cork

Fr Tod Umptious

sendit wrote: »

He plays for Cork

Opps

Did not read all thread, though we were talking about Byran Sheehan

I knew his was subbed yesterday and heard that he was injured.

I'll get my coat.

sendit

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Opps

Did not read all thread, though we were talking about Byran Sheehan

I knew his was subbed yesterday and heard that he was injured.

I'll get my coat.

I had a feeling thats who you ment :pac:

corcaigh07

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

Well if that's the case then it is another big blow to this Kerry squad.

A few pages ago he was being hailed by one poster as the best free taker in the land, so now not only do you have to have the likes of Quirke playing mid-field you also loose a free taker.

HAHAHA ciaran sheehan, of Cork.

Massive loss to Cork, not much on the bench yesterday attacking wise

premierstone

premierstone wrote: »

One thing that strikes me from reading this thread and from others in the last 12 months is how absolutely horribly over-rated Aidan Walsh is, its laughable tbh, he has massive potential and has shown glimpse of being very good, but the way some people talk about him you would think he was the second coming, he has only played little over a handfull of championship games, all this hype is a bit premature.

Rebel Fan wrote: »

Over-rated????? All Ireland winner, All Star, Young player of the year in his first full championship season. He had 1 bad game last year in Killarney, won plenty of possession but his distribution was atrocious. However, since then he's been phenomenol for us, had fantastic games against Dublin and Down in front of 82000 people, and still only 19. He also wants to make himself available for the senior hurlers in the next couple of years. You can't over rate a player that did that in his first full season, I agree it's too early to say he's one of the greats but at 19 he has the potential to become one. A fantatsic talent, a powerhouse in midfield, any county would have him in both codes. If he played for Kerry in football or tipp in hurling you'd be drooling at him, think you need a reality check here!

Apologies will be accepted on a postcard Rebel, a very very poor performance from the messiah yesterday, he wasnt even in the top 3 midfielders in Kilarney yesterday, Kerry had to bring on Quirke so that Walsh would look good and Cork will play him when they meet again, that didnt even do the trick and is it was hes midfield partner who stepped up.

Colm R

corcaigh07 wrote: »

genuine question, how did you find out it wasnt choking? you must have been next to me at the game because it looked very bad from where was standing.

I was near the 45 line with a Blue terrace ticket. I found out from talking to a neutral watching on TV that he was not applying pressure to the neck. I think the angle I was at made it look like choking, so chances are you were near me alright.

Sullivan was also holding his shorts. This action was punished with a yellow.

To be honest, I'd prefer now if nothing came of it. If we are to meet Kerry again in Croker, I'd prefer to win/loose with Cooper, Galvin and T'O Sea playing.

Rebel Fan

premierstone wrote: »

Apologies will be accepted on a postcard Rebel, a very very poor performance from the messiah yesterday, he wasnt even in the top 3 midfielders in Kilarney yesterday, Kerry had to bring on Quirke so that Walsh would look good and Cork will play him when they meet again, that didnt even do the trick and is it was hes midfield partner who stepped up.

I knew you'd have something to say alright today, Walsh out of the game in the 1st half but surely alot of that can be blamed on Quirke and his ridiculous short kickouts. Walsh and O Connor dominated in the 2nd half when we reverted to type but alas it wasn't good enough. As for your comment about bringing on Quirke, well it shows how stupid your comments really are when you come out with such crap like that. Being from Tipp methinks you should stick to the small ball. Every player has a bad game now and then, it wasn't just Walsh, the whole team were off the pace of the game in the 1st half. Even someone as good as Gooch will be criticised for his performance yesterday but he'll come good as well. One swallow doesn't make a summer!

Pappy o' daniel

sendit

Pappy o' daniel wrote: »

Yon can also clearly see O Sullivan holdimg on to his shorts or did you miss that? Also he holding on to his leg with his other hand

GoldFour4

Rebel Fan wrote: »

I knew you'd have something to say alright today, Walsh out of the game in the 1st half but surely alot of that can be blamed on Quirke and his ridiculous short kickouts. Walsh and O Connor dominated in the 2nd half when we reverted to type but alas it wasn't good enough. As for your comment about bringing on Quirke, well it shows how stupid your comments really are when you come out with such crap like that. Being from Tipp methinks you should stick to the small ball. Every player has a bad game now and then, it wasn't just Walsh, the whole team were off the pace of the game in the 1st half. Even someone as good as Gooch will be criticised for his performance yesterday but he'll come good as well. One swallow doesn't make a summer!

Tipps minor footballers were well able to show the kerry and cork lads a few things about football. We have solid development in place. Give us three or four years and we will be a legitamate dual threat.

Rebel Fan

sendit wrote: »

Yon can also clearly see O Sullivan holdimg on to his shorts or did you miss that?

Handbags from both players, a nothing incident IMO, regardless of any incident Kerry deserved to win, we can have no excuses. Very poor in the first half and only woke up in the last half an hour. I'd be more concerned about the injuries piling up and the fact we don't seem to able to play for 70 mins, however in Conor we trust!

Rebel Fan

malachyscott wrote: »

Tipps minor footballers were well able to show the kerry and cork lads a few things about football. We have solid development in place. Give us three or four years and we will be a legitamate dual threat.

I hope you're right, it's about time another county came and challenged the big 2 in Munster. However, history has shown that minor and under age success doesn't automatically guarantee success at senior, but in any case I hope you're right.