Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

robindch

[-0-] wrote: »

Ridiculous!

Just noticed -- is that a star of David on the podium? Facepalm squared, I suppose. These people really are very, very stupid.

robindch

The state of Nebraska approves funds to carry out a study on "cyclical" climate change (which denies the influence of humans on the climate). The state's scientists raise their collective middle finger and refuse to carry out the study.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/24/nebraska_approves_climate_denying_study_scientists_refuse_to_conduct_it/

Hardly needs to be said, but Beau McCoy, the camply-named guy who added the word "cyclical" to the bill, is a member of the Republican Party. BTW, there's a nice edit on his wikipage: "Senator McCoy identifies himself as pro-life [...] supports Second Amendment rights [...] believes in the death penalty".

Brian Shanahan

robindch wrote: »

Just noticed -- is that a star of David on the podium? Facepalm squared, I suppose. These people really are very, very stupid.

The star of David has use in christianity too (not so much in the mainstream brands, but the rapture brands). And it's relatively recent as a Jewish symbol tracing back to the 12th century Karaite movement (a fringe movement within judaism which thought jews moving back to Jerusalem would hasten the coming of the messiah. Of course this means the Israeli state magnifies their importance) and only gaining general acceptance from the 17th century on.

Turtwig

robindch wrote: »

The state of Nebraska approves funds to carry out a study on "cyclical" climate change (which denies the influence of humans on the climate). The state's scientists raise their collective middle finger and refuse to carry out the study.

http://www.salon.com/2013/10/24/nebraska_approves_climate_denying_study_scientists_refuse_to_conduct_it/

Hardly needs to be said, but Beau McCoy, the camply-named guy who added the word "cyclical" to the bill, is a member of the Republican Party. BTW, there's a nice edit on his wikipage: "Senator McCoy identifies himself as pro-life [...] supports Second Amendment rights [...] believes in the death penalty".

This would be funny if it wasn't rather sad.

Corkfeen

Jernal wrote: »

This would be funny if it wasn't rather sad.

Scientists should do it and reach the inevitable conclusion that there's no foundation for cyclical climate change. :pac:

robindch

Corkfeen wrote: »

Scientists should do it and reach the inevitable conclusion that there's no foundation for cyclical climate change.

I believe the report is supposed to consider the effects of "cyclical" climate change on Nebraska - a report saying "Well, feck all in comparison to anthropogenic climate change" might be nice

Meanwhile, here's a report on what must be the smallest demographic in the US -- single mothers who support the Republicans:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/opinion/sunday/single-mothers-with-family-values.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=todayspaper

Corkfeen

robindch wrote: »

I believe the report is supposed to consider the effects of "cyclical" climate change on Nebraska - a report saying "Well, feck all in comparison to anthropogenic climate change" might be nice

Meanwhile, here's a report on what must be the smallest demographic in the US -- single mothers who support the Republicans:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/27/opinion/sunday/single-mothers-with-family-values.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&ref=todayspaper

Ahh so, they're defining the existence of something for which there is no foundation for. Rather appropriate given the forum. :pac:

robindch

The New Yorker profiles Ted Cruz and doesn't much like what it sees:

http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/comment/2013/10/ted-cruz-the-mask-of-sincerity.html?utm_source=tny&utm_campaign=generalsocial&utm_medium=facebook

Delirium

anyone know if Bachmann actually said the following? :eek:

Corkfeen

I'm inclined to say it's fake, I googled for the origins of the source and can't find a thing.

Turtwig

I'm inclined towards the same thing too. It's baffling really that people do such crap. Bachmann has already said some really stupid things on food stamps. No need to make stuff up. Why people make up stories and myths that are patently false is beyond me. Facebook is full of people spreading these things too.

Doctor DooM

I'd guess it was paraphrased from this, where she says America should be less socialist- like China.

It would seem she failed to miss the obvious issue with that statement...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oksH-TP-1mI

Still, inaccurate reporting and quote mining are things people on our side of the border complain about, and we should condemn it wherever it's to be found I think

nagirrac

Jernal wrote: »

Facebook is full of people spreading these things too.

Facebook and Twitter appear to have dumbed down a whole generation:(. Its actually scary to think what some of these people's offspring will be like, assuming they can maintain a real world relationship long enough to procreate.

Nodin

nagirrac wrote: »

Facebook and Twitter appear to have dumbed down a whole generation:(. Its actually scary to think what some of these people's offspring will be like, assuming they can maintain a real world relationship long enough to procreate.

I remember the world pre-facebook and pre-twitter and it was no less stupid in certain quarters.

PopePalpatine

I don't think social media is "dumbing us" down (at least not drastically), it's just making stupidity more visible.

Still, "being less socialist...like China" sounds like typical Bachmann stupidity.

nagirrac

Nodin wrote: »

I remember the world pre-facebook and pre-twitter and it was no less stupid in certain quarters.

True, but the emergence of social media has facilitated the rapid spread of stupid.

MrPudding

nagirrac wrote: »

True, but the emergence of social media has facilitated the rapid spread of stupid.

I think this is exactly it, or more accurately, IMO, it has made stupid more visible and and easier for people to display their stupidity and for others to see it.

One of my favourite sayings, the advice of which I stubbornly refuse to follow, is:

Abraham Lincoln (I think) wrote:

Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt

I think if more people lived by this simple rule there would be a lot less stupid apparent in the world.

MrP

Brian Shanahan

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Still, "being less socialist...like China" sounds like typical Bachmann stupidity.

She's correct, a slave-labour state like China's is the ultimate goal of capitalistic systems.

Nodin

nagirrac wrote: »

True, but the emergence of social media has facilitated the rapid spread of stupid.

...better to say that it gives the previously unheard masses of stupid a new and strident voice.

joseph brand

MrPudding wrote: »

I think this is exactly it, or more accurately, IMO, it has made stupid more visible and and easier for people to display their stupidity and for others to see it.

One of my favourite sayings, the advice of which I stubbornly refuse to follow, is:



I think if more people lived by this simple rule there would be a lot less stupid apparent in the world.

MrP

I believe Enda Kenny lives by that simple rule. The less he speaks, the less ammunition people have to hit him with. Same goes for most politicians except the up and coming ones intent on getting noticed. Fianna Fáil's Michael McGrath has his face everywhere, from Vincent Browne to cereal boxes. His face isn't associated with the recession unlike Michael Martin.

joseph brand

nagirrac wrote: »

True, but the emergence of social media has facilitated the rapid spread of stupid.

It is full of stupid, but that stupid was always there. Their parents are stupid, and theirs before them. I blame religion and the upper classes. Obviously there's a massive difference between the wealthy Vatican with all it's gold and jewels which makes a fortune while adding nothing to society, whereas the royal families . . . .
My mam thinks the world is more dangerous today and there's more crime. (She reads the Daily Mail)
I tried to explain that news information is more readily available (instant), and there's many sources, so crime seems more prevalent.
Put simply; according to those who don't drive, there's not many bad motorists out there.
There's a lot of ignorance out there, and some girls actually flaunt their idiocy. Then we get people like Barlow, Walsh and Cowell exploiting this vast (renewable resource) 'dumb field' to fill their pockets and massage their egos. The four 'judges' sitting at their table are like medieval monarchs wanting to be appeased and entertained by innocent young boys and girls.
I heard that Louis Walsh drinks young boys tears for sustenance.

Brian Shanahan

joseph brand wrote: »

My mam thinks the world is more dangerous today and there's more crime. (She reads the Daily Mail)
I tried to explain that news information is more readily available (instant), and there's many sources, so crime seems more prevalent.
Put simply; according to those who don't drive, there's not many bad motorists out there.

Did you also point out to her that most news stories that describe violent acts are stories of atypical events, the atypical being one of criteria for something being newsworthy.

Statistically we're living in a slightly more violent age (in personal terms, state on state violience is as bad as its ever been) than the period after the second world war, but less violent than any other thirty year period for which we have records. For example the murder rate in London (absolute deaths) hovered between 10 and 13 times the current rate, in a much smaller city (we only have this data due to the English court system being very good at keeping and maintaining records).

robindch

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Statistically we're living in a slightly more violent age (in personal terms, state on state violience is as bad as its ever been) than the period after the second world war, but less violent than any other thirty year period for which we have records.

State-on-state violence is at its lowest ebb ever. Have a read of Stephen Pinker's The Better Angels of Our Nature which, with a bit of luck, should be summarized in this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ramBFRt1Uzk

Sarky

Well, I guess we know where Ted Cruz gets it from. There's his dad, telling us evolution is a communist hoax and that the gays are dangerous.

Bannasidhe

Sarky wrote: »

Well, I guess we know where Ted Cruz gets it from. There's his dad, telling us evolution is a communist hoax and that the gays are dangerous.

Grrrrrr!!!

PopePalpatine

Not to be outdone by Michele Bachmann in the Teabilly stakes, Sarah Palin claims that "an angry atheist with a lawyer is one of the most powerful persons in America". The phrase "check your privilege" was made for this waste of oxygen.

robindch

Rand Paul, son of presidential candidate Ron Paul, is a prominent teabilly, libertarian and free-market advocate.

Unfortunately for him, it seem his free-market ideals include swiping other people's prose and passing it off as his own:

http://www.salon.com/2013/11/08/salon_exclusive_more_rand_paul_plagiarism/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/07/rand-paul-plagiarism_n_4234306.html

robindch

Rick Snyder, the Republican governor of Michigan, has filed a response to a civil action taken against the state's ban on marriage equality. In it, Snyder claims as follows:

Snyder wrote:

One of the paramount purposes of marriage in Michigan — and at least 37 other states that define marriage as a union between a man and a woman — is, and has always been, to regulate sexual relationships between men and women so that the unique procreative capacity of such relationships benefits rather than harms society.

...which is as tortured a piece of English as any you could find. I believe he's trying to say that the state should control marriage so that women are forced to have babies though it has other, weird, meanings too.

More here:

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/18/michigan-claims-right-regulate-sexual-relationships/

PopePalpatine

Is he related to John Waters? :pac:

Brian Shanahan

It seems Sarah Palin has a new book out, tellin us ell how best to enjoy xmas, before those filthy atheists in Washingmachine steal it away.