Half-baked Republican Presidential Fruitcakes (and fellow confections)

Lurkio

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Whilst I would contend that all religion is organised against Western interests, Islam is the only one actively mobilised on a war footing and launching physical attacks, or rather, providing the cover/motivation/justification/whatever for physical attacks. Islam is high profile, simple as.

.......this notion really has all the hallmarks of half arsed Nazism as recycled through the St Marys Rugby Club bar.

JPNelsforearm

Lurkio wrote: »

But you never, ever, ever mentioned it - not the homophobia, the sexism, the fundamentalism......its like you were just blind to it because of some fixation.....

What is a bigger issue, and a more compelling point, the 38% unemployment rate among African immigrants in Ireland or their christian fundamentalism?

Lurkio wrote: »

.......this notion really has all the hallmarks of half arsed Nazism as recycled through the St Marys Rugby Club bar.

I have a suspicion of any man who has not engaged in physical activity or competition, an aversion organised and regulated violence is unhealthy, questions must be asked of their toughness, both mental and physical. Rugby moulds men

Absolam

Ross?

Lurkio

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

I have a suspicion of any man who has not engaged in physical activity or competition, an aversion organised and regulated violence is unhealthy, ..............

Can't say that was ever aimed at me, tbh.

keane2097

I was very much enjoying the currency debate FWIW.

Lurkio

Going on the pictorial evidence, it seems Baron Harkonnen is a Trump supporter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/billionaires-lining-up-for-trump-arent-sure-where-to-send-their-money/2016/05/15/aa7896e2-1953-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html?tid=sm_fb

recedite

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Nobody ever gives out about the term anti-semitism. Which is strange considering how much elements of the right think the Jews are up to something.

I give out about the term :pac:... because arabs are also semitic. But ignoring that, and trying to go with the most usual accepted definition which is "anti-jewish", at least that describes a position without ascribing any imagined motives to it.
If the term was "jew-phobic" instead (or even worse; semitophobic) it would mean being anti-jewish (or anti jews and arabs) based on an irrational fear of them.
Obviously for a Palestinian, that would be nonsensical. They tend to be semitic themselves, as arabs, and anyway they have very rational reasons for their aversion to jews.

Lurkio wrote: »

Going on the pictorial evidence, it seems Baron Harkonnen is a Trump supporter.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/billionaires-lining-up-for-trump-arent-sure-where-to-send-their-money/2016/05/15/aa7896e2-1953-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html?tid=sm_fb

Nice comparison. But if you read the text, you'll see the gist of it is that billionaires don't trust Trump to deliver influence to them in return for their campaign donations, and are tending to prefer Clinton.
On the other hand, ordinary voters prefer Trump for exactly the same reasons. That makes Trump good for democracy, and bad for the fat cat lobbyists.

Lurkio

recedite wrote: »

Nice comparison. But if you read the text, you'll see the gist of it is that billionaires don't trust Trump to deliver influence to them in return for their campaign donations, and are tending to prefer Clinton.
On the other hand, ordinary voters prefer Trump for exactly the same reasons. That makes Trump good for democracy, and bad for the fat cat lobbyists.

The notion that Trump is good for anything save Trump has yet to be put to the test.

robindch

Returning briefly to the simpler days of this thread when we used to hear of indiscretions by Republican politicians, here's the story of the appropriately-named Mr Webb, who posted a screenshot of his Windows desktop. Unfortunately, the screenshot included string of browser tabs opened to a string of porn sites. Mr Webb explained that he was studying the effects of malware on electoral candidates.

Mr Webb is a member of the Republican Party.

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/offbeat/us-politician-tries-to-explain-porn-tabs-on-screenshot-1.2650629

BoatMad

I have a suspicion of any man who has not engaged in physical activity or competition, an aversion organised and regulated violence is unhealthy, questions must be asked of their toughness, both mental and physical. Rugby moulds men

and typically leaves them physically broken by 50

JPNelsforearm

BoatMad wrote: »

and typically leaves them physically broken by 50

Nonsense, if you look after yourself, ice baths, gym, healthy diet, yoga/pilates, stretching/foam rolling/massage, proper training(block periodisation etc), the only people who end up crocked are lazy bollocks's who think a pint is an appropriate post match meal. There are more people crocked at fifty who have never stepped foot on a rugby pitch, then have played rugby.

BoatMad

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Nonsense, if you look after yourself, ice baths, gym, healthy diet, yoga/pilates, stretching/foam rolling/massage, proper training(block periodisation etc), the only people who end up crocked are lazy bollocks's who think a pint is an appropriate post match meal. There are more people crocked at fifty who have never stepped foot on a rugby pitch, then have played rugby.

merely throwing fun at the " rugby mould men" nonsense.

JPNelsforearm

BoatMad wrote: »

merely throwing fun at the " rugby mould men" nonsense.

Its not nonsense. The amount of pathetic sad sacks passing for men that abound in sanitised and feminised modern society is ridiculous. Your Elliot Rodgers types being the extreme examples.

BoatMad

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Its not nonsense. The amount of pathetic sad sacks passing for men that abound in sanitised and feminised modern society is ridiculous. Your Elliot Rodgers types being the extreme examples.

the point is things are often better run in todays "anitised and feminised modern society " then in the past.

there is no evidence to suggest playing a sport ( for example) makes you a better decision maker.

if anything we need less machismo in the modern world

Lurkio

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Its not nonsense. The amount of pathetic sad sacks passing for men that abound in sanitised and feminised modern society is ridiculous. Your Elliot Rodgers types being the extreme examples.

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/79/Laughing_Cat.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070919052017

Maybe he would have been better off ditching the far right views and "manning up".

Meanwhile, at the Ranch.......
"The top ranks of the Republican Party may be coalescing around Donald Trump, but grass-roots conservative activists are still trying to find a way to stop him at the party’s convention in July.
Angered by Trump’s shifting views on taxes, the minimum wage, national security and how little he discusses social issues, conservatives across the country are studying the party rule book for last-ditch moves they could make when the convention begins in Cleveland."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-conservatives-are-still-plotting-to-stop-trump-at-the-gop-convention/2016/05/16/117166ee-1954-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_last-ditch-610a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

The Randy Riverbeast

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Nonsense, if you look after yourself, ice baths, gym, healthy diet, yoga/pilates, stretching/foam rolling/massage, proper training(block periodisation etc), the only people who end up crocked are lazy bollocks's who think a pint is an appropriate post match meal. There are more people crocked at fifty who have never stepped foot on a rugby pitch, then have played rugby.

Because sports injuries are rare and never act up in old age.

And this is all coming from some guy sitting on the internet. Real alpha male there :rolleyes:

BoatMad

Lurkio wrote: »

http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/uncyclopedia/images/7/79/Laughing_Cat.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20070919052017

Maybe he would have been better off ditching the far right views and "manning up".

Meanwhile, at the Ranch.......
"The top ranks of the Republican Party may be coalescing around Donald Trump, but grass-roots conservative activists are still trying to find a way to stop him at the party’s convention in July.
Angered by Trump’s shifting views on taxes, the minimum wage, national security and how little he discusses social issues, conservatives across the country are studying the party rule book for last-ditch moves they could make when the convention begins in Cleveland."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/some-conservatives-are-still-plotting-to-stop-trump-at-the-gop-convention/2016/05/16/117166ee-1954-11e6-9e16-2e5a123aac62_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_last-ditch-610a%3Ahomepage%2Fstory

Its actually hilarious

a party that has a candidate it doesnt want

a populist candidate appealing to disposed white voters, running as a republican

the intellectual wing of the that party horrified as they see a left wing candidate populist , masquerading as a right wing republican

you couldnt make it up

recedite

Lurkio wrote: »

Meanwhile, at the Ranch.......
"The top ranks of the Republican Party may be coalescing around Donald Trump, but grass-roots conservative activists are still trying to find a way to stop him at the party’s convention in July.

Notice how they are planning to do this; by subverting democracy.

...offering to educate delegates on how they can act as free agents, even if the Republican National Committee insists that delegates adhere to the results of their state primary.

Back in ye olden days, when a delegate had to ride on horseback to Washington, it was accepted that events on the ground could change while he was en route, so he was free to vote whichever way he wanted when he got there. That allowed him the flexibility to respond to events, but he was still expected to respect the mandate insofar as possible that was given to him before he left.

So this "free agent" plan is not something that would apply in the modern world of instant communication with their home state.
Trump will turn on these guys, and tear them apart for even suggesting such a sneaky and undemocratic plan.

BoatMad

So this "free agent" plan is not something that would apply in the modern world of instant communication with their home state.
Trump will turn on these guys, and tear them apart for even suggesting such a sneaky and undemocratic plan.

I think we can rest assured that Trump will be the uncontested candidate and the GOP will have no ability to deny him the candidacy as a result

The resulting tearing apart of the GOP will be interesting to watch however

The GOP is inside the Trump event horizon, theres is no escape , and destruction is just a time away

Lurkio

BoatMad wrote: »

I think we can rest assured that Trump will be the uncontested candidate and the GOP will have no ability to deny him the candidacy as a result

The resulting tearing apart of the GOP will be interesting to watch however

The GOP is inside the Trump event horizon, theres is no escape , and destruction is just a time away

....regardless of who gets in, I think we might be in for at least a bad four years.

BoatMad

Lurkio wrote: »

....regardless of who gets in, I think we might be in for at least a bad four years.

maybe , it can hardly be worse then the last 8

JPNelsforearm

The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »

Because sports injuries are rare and never act up in old age.

And this is all coming from some guy sitting on the internet. Real alpha male there :rolleyes:

Add some growth hormone and test, continuous joint use and mobility, barring a catastrophic injury in your youth you have no excuse.

Because internet use= obese estrogenic neckbeard :rolleyes: eating healthy and going to the gym for two hours a day before work isnt taxing and doesnt impinge on your day whatsoever.

BoatMad

two hours a day before work isnt taxing and doesnt impinge on your day whatsoever.

it seriously impinges on your sleep time , when you get up already at 7:30 am

Lurkio

BoatMad wrote: »

maybe , it can hardly be worse then the last 8

Unfortunately they can be indeed. The best case scenario is a Trump that doesn't have a real set of beliefs winning and doing four years of not very much internationally. Worst case is a trump that actually enacts his nonsense and second worst is Hillary, who I fear has a touch of the Thatcher about her. The tone on the middle east from her is not good at all, and I think many may suffer because of it.

Lurkio

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Add some growth hormone and test, continuous joint use and mobility, barring a catastrophic injury in your youth you have no excuse.

Because internet use= obese estrogenic neckbeard :rolleyes: eating healthy and going to the gym for two hours a day before work isnt taxing and doesnt impinge on your day whatsoever.

You might pass on some tips to the Identity Ireland people. Certainly they have excellent sprinting ability, but I think they need more time on the weights and generally building themselves up for the ruck.

recedite

BoatMad wrote: »

The resulting tearing apart of the GOP will be interesting to watch however..

I doubt it. Once he is the candidate the vast majority will unite behind him against the democrat candidate. The few republicans who defect will be balanced out by the Trump supporters who would normally vote democrat.
Notice at the meeting he had with Ryan recently. Ryan pretended to be surprised to find that Trump wasn't as a bad as he had previously thought. That is the exact neutral point of the U in a politician's U-turn.

BoatMad

recedite wrote: »

I doubt it. Once he is the candidate the vast majority will unite behind him against the democrat candidate. The few republicans who defect will be balanced out by the Trump supporters who would normally vote democrat.
Notice at the meeting he had with Ryan recently. Ryan pretended to be surprised to find that Trump wasn't as a bad as he had previously thought. That is the exact neutral point of the U in a politician's U-turn.

if you read , as I do , conservative blogs, there is a deep hatred of Trump. why?, because deep down ( and not so deep down ) They know Trump is not a conservative , he's a populist that has hijacked the republican party as a road to the presidency. Its why the likes of the Tea party and Ryan are deeply deeply suspicious of the mans conservative credentials ( and they have plenty to be concerned about)

I suspect Trump is more left wing then Clinton in reality , he's garnering support from disaffected white middle class areas, These people dont care about " deficits " , they care about jobs, lower taxes for middle classes ( and by extension higher ons for rich people ) . They care about schooling and healthcare costs

Thats a near left wing agenda , if I ever saw one and Trump is fundamentally a populist not a conservative.

The resulting Trump presidency will be interesting, it might even be popular with the voters, its will tear the heart out of the GOP though

Have you not thought why the GOP officials want to stop him, they know thats coming

recedite

JPNelsforearm wrote: »

Add some growth hormone ...

I swear by the antler velvet of organically farmed New Zealand stags, harvested by the light of a new moon, myself.

Lurkio wrote: »

You might pass on some tips to the Identity Ireland people. Certainly they have excellent sprinting ability, but I think they need more time on the weights and generally building themselves up for the ruck.

That wasn't a fair fight. The Polish lads were heavily outnumbered by the scrotes

recedite

BoatMad wrote: »

I suspect Trump is more left wing then Clinton in reality , he's garnering support from disaffected white middle class areas, These people dont care about " deficits " , they care about jobs, lower taxes for middle classes ( and by extension higher ons for rich people ) . They care about schooling and healthcare costs

Thats a near left wing agenda , if I ever saw one and Trump is fundamentally a populist not a conservative.

I agree. But at the end of the day, what the GOP care about most is winning.
The purpose of the fat cat lobbyists is to finance the campaign costs. The fancy campaign garners populist support. If Trump already has populist support and can part-fund his own campaign, that just makes the win cheaper.

BoatMad

recedite wrote: »

I agree. But at the end of the day, what the GOP care about most is winning.
The purpose of the fat cat lobbyists is to finance the campaign costs. The fancy campaign garners populist support. If Trump already has populist support and can part-fund his own campaign, that just makes the win cheaper.

I dont believe so, otherwise they wouldn't be trying desperately to stop Trump. long after Trump has won and the costs are long forgotten, the GOP will be tearing itself apart as it realises it was used as a trojan horse to elect a populist politician , that will enhance big government, significantly raise the deficit and implement a popular "populist" policy platform , all in the name of the republican party.

the funding is irrelevant