Internship scheme offers 5,000 work placements to people on the dole

Jonathan Young Sunscreen

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

Not only did I get a job ..i also got a bonus:-D

I should hope so....they didnt have to pay you for a few months.

Braindead scheme. All it does is push a private firms wage bill onto the already broke taxpayer. Cost sharing with the public but no profit sharing if they make money.

If companies want staff they should pay for them. Those with ambition, brains and the ability to leave are doing so:

http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1025365.shtml

IMF says Ireland's unemployment rate would be 20% without emigration

Who the hell wants to work for free in the hope that you *might* get a job out of it.

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blindjustice wrote: »

I should hope so....they didnt have to pay you for a few months.

Braindead scheme. All it does is push a private firms wage bill onto the already broke taxpayer. Cost sharing with the public but no profit sharing if they make money.

If companies want staff they should pay for them. Those with ambition, brains and the ability to leave are doing so:

http://www.finfacts.ie/irishfinancenews/article_1025365.shtml



Who the hell wants to work for free in the hope that you *might* get a job out of it.

in my case it was a new role that they didn't know would work.
Even if it hadn't of worked ot would have been 6 months of valuable experience. That 2 of us got jobs inside 4 months says a lot for the company.

Jonathan Young Sunscreen

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

in my case it was a new role that they didn't know would work.
Even if it hadn't of worked ot would have been 6 months of valuable experience. That 2 of us got jobs inside 4 months says a lot for the company.

What do you think companies did in this scenario before the internship scheme? Seiously you really think this was a problem that only an internship scheme could solve? Do think this was a problem AT ALL?

Normally you would have been taken on as a temp and kept on if necessary. Once upon a time you saw that in job advertisements in Ireland.

The company used free labour at the tax payers expense - "it says alot for the company" - so we are now cheering companies that pay workers.......

How pathetic Ireland has become.

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blindjustice wrote: »

What do you think companies did in this scenario before the internship scheme? Seiously you really think this was a problem that only an internship scheme could solve? Do think this was a problem AT ALL?

Normally you would have been taken on as a temp and kept on if necessary. Once upon a time you saw that in job advertisements in Ireland.

The company used free labour at the tax payers expense - "it says alot for the company" - so we are now cheering companies that pay workers.......

How pathetic Ireland has become.

Really need to change the record.

I had a choice of getting experience or sitting on my backside at home.
I chose the former and am now in a job after 3 years out of work and have a new career.

I didn't ask your permission to do the internship and I certainly don't need your approval now.

cypressg

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

Really need to change the record.

I had a choice of getting experience or sitting on my backside at home.
I chose the former and am now in a job after 3 years out of work and have a new career.

I didn't ask your permission to do the internship and I certainly don't need your approval now.

That's lovely,we are all very happy for you but what about all the people that have been sacked to make way for "interns"(free labour) and what about all the gullible fools that took up "internships" only to be taken for a ride and what about all the paying jobs that are now non-paying internships?Are we to ignore all this because you were one of the lucky ones that wasn't abused?Typical myopic irish thinking - "sure it worked for me so feck the rest of ye".

Jonathan Young Sunscreen

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

Really need to change the record.

Explain?

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

I had a choice of getting experience or sitting on my backside at home.
I chose the former and am now in a job after 3 years out of work and have a new career.

I didn't ask your permission to do the internship and I certainly don't need your approval now.

On a macro scale this policy is terribly damaging. People should be paid. What is wrong with that? Overall this scheme destroys jobs while fooling people looking on into thinking it is providing opportunity.

cypressg

Deleted User wrote: »

Explain?




On a macro scale this policy is terribly damaging. People should have be paid. What is wrong with that? Overall this scheme destroys jobs while fooling people looking on into thinking it is providing opportunity.

Yeah but tatranska got a new career so it's ok.

uck51js9zml2yt

I never asked anyone to ignore the abuses of the scheme but don't try putting those of us who used it to our advantage to get experience and got a job out of it.

Id love to know how many people on this thread didn't loose their jobs and had to change career in their mid 40's or are at home sitting on their backside moaning about not getting a job.

cypressg

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

Id love to know how many people on this thread didn't loose their jobs and had to change career in their mid 40's or are at home sitting on their backside moaning about not getting a job.

Why?What difference would it make to the fact that the scheme is a scam that is putting people out of paid jobs and replacing them with unpaid jobs?
Are you looking for some sort of sympathy or something?

CatFromHue

Jonathan Young Sunscreen wrote: »

I never asked anyone to ignore the abuses of the scheme but don't try putting those of us who used it to our advantage to get experience and got a job out of it.

Id love to know how many people on this thread didn't loose their jobs and had to change career in their mid 40's or are at home sitting on their backside moaning about not getting a job.

My opinion is that the Jobbridge scheme in theory is a good idea but in practice is left for companies to exploit with no over sight from the people running it.

I'm happy you got a job out of it and fair play but FAS are very slow to actually provide any solid data that the scheme is running as it should which leaves me to believe it's been exploited.

On the Jobbridge website they do have an information page but that just lists three tables:
1. Breakdown of Placements by Company Size
2. Breakdown of Placements by Age Band
3. Breakdown of Placements by Company Type

Fairly useless information really. There's no published info from Jobbridge on the average length of internship?, did interns then gain employment in the area that they did their internship in? how many companies take repeat interns?

You have to go trawling through newspapers to find anymore info. The Irish Times did an article highlighting that over half of non graduate interns gain employment after JobBridge. Do they gain employment with the host company? Do they gain employment in the area they did their internship in? I don't know. What I do know is that when I look at the non graduate internships advertised the vast majority of them are actual jobs but the host company is using the scheme to train their workers. Before the scheme existed the companies would have hired these people and trained them.

What Jobbridge do state is that 12314 interns have taken place. If we assume conservatively that the average internship lasts 16 weeks then the extra cost to the tax payer is 12314*16*50 = 9.85 million euro.

Edit: Again fair play for giving it a go and I'm glad you got a job out of the end of it.

cypressg

CatFromHue wrote: »

My opinion is that the Jobbridge scheme in theory is a good idea but in practice is left for companies to exploit with no over sight from the people running it.

I'm happy you got a job out of it and fair play but FAS are very slow to actually provide any solid data that the scheme is running as it should which leaves me to believe it's been exploited.

On the Jobbridge website they do have an information page but that just lists three tables:
1. Breakdown of Placements by Company Size
2. Breakdown of Placements by Age Band
3. Breakdown of Placements by Company Type

Fairly useless information really. There's no published info from Jobbridge on the average length of internship?, did interns then gain employment in the area that they did their internship in? how many companies take repeat interns?

You have to go trawling through newspapers to find anymore info. The Irish Times did an article highlighting that over half of non graduate interns gain employment after JobBridge. Do they gain employment with the host company? Do they gain employment in the area they did their internship in? I don't know. What I do know is that when I look at the non graduate internships advertised the vast majority of them are actual jobs but the host company is using the scheme to train their workers. Before the scheme existed the companies would have hired these people and trained them.

What they do state is that 12314 interns have taken place. If we assume conservatively that the average internship lasts 16 weeks then the extra cost to the tax payer is 12314*16*50 = 9.85 million euro.

I would respectfully suggest that firstly, the concept of internships is very wrong unless we live in a socialist society-providing free labour in a capitalist paradigm does not compute and creates massive distortions which screws things up elsewhere in the system.
And secondly,the cost to the government of providing 1 intern is potentially many times greater than the 50 yoyo subsidy-think of it like this,if the job was an actual paying job rather that an "internship" the government could be collecting say about 5 or 6,000 yoyo in taxes off the persons wages.That tax take is lost the minute the job is turned into a non-paying internship.It's essentially sabotage of the countries tax take and labour market.

http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1yW26DjUJdnNZmJvk4EsxDKnmmsSN00TwRm9Vk8P9jZwL9VFOOpwMgR+DGwNYbOvn+aHtpSZFjPt8BhpzJjk2nCuzlE6PACPwzz5CbsgShUpCW5fA+QcTPjAHWTpqRdGrEH6kePvE1M4s5Z4LIltiXvMWO10cpRyR1c//wb8obsyMyvefw7UhMmGt1vw4nGpAMbpL1vXcUCbPjJ36W/d4MNifSn0kA+su5UnRQKsyLJ8QIphaEBsClhAP0MKSDWLLnoZ7N6W0OYUPhWqNbw7BTo8K9BVAjpeU8Q2++P1Wxdv8AIbkA7B2GT9KCQApDR8feiYaWPD7DY2uLwAn7MYl2P4IPXr67WEMlbdoMYIFBYudlc3OF2/26YsyP7O3up76706lCFcqdSbmx3bUq7XYddSxQr+cDrs0gfL7BKoVkudmKhcVvVH9KSXZbjScGau0MybHIzKZVmr

Shop Assistant

Department
Shop Floor/Checkouts


Duration
9 Months

Please email CV to: paulfloydltd@eircom.net or alternatively post to:
Paul Floyd,
Mace,
Dunkineely,
Co. Donegal

Wonderful little cuntry

eth4

Deleted User wrote: »

http://intern.jobbridge.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1yW26DjUJdnNZmJvk4EsxDKnmmsSN00TwRm9Vk8P9jZwL9VFOOpwMgR+DGwNYbOvn+aHtpSZFjPt8BhpzJjk2nCuzlE6PACPwzz5CbsgShUpCW5fA+QcTPjAHWTpqRdGrEH6kePvE1M4s5Z4LIltiXvMWO10cpRyR1c//wb8obsyMyvefw7UhMmGt1vw4nGpAMbpL1vXcUCbPjJ36W/d4MNifSn0kA+su5UnRQKsyLJ8QIphaEBsClhAP0MKSDWLLnoZ7N6W0OYUPhWqNbw7BTo8K9BVAjpeU8Q2++P1Wxdv8AIbkA7B2GT9KCQApDR8feiYaWPD7DY2uLwAn7MYl2P4IPXr67WEMlbdoMYIFBYudlc3OF2/26YsyP7O3up76706lCFcqdSbmx3bUq7XYddSxQr+cDrs0gfL7BKoVkudmKhcVvVH9KSXZbjScGau0MybHIzKZVmr



Wonderful little cuntry

Jaysus that is dire stuff.

eth4

eth4 wrote: »

Jaysus that is dire stuff.

nah we`re just cranks

Homepage | Internship

Security Officer /Tallaght


Please forward your CV to belgardsquare@supervalu.ie or post to Supervalu Belgard Square, 4-6 Belgard Square West, Tallaght, Dublin 24

Why should Supervalu in the Square get a free security guard while other places pay?
Businesses have to compete with ones getting free labour provided for them by the taxpayer................I hope people can join the dots as to where this leads

Mace are really getting behind this

Homepage | Internship

Shop / Store / Deli Assistant

Number of Positions
2

Macs Mace
High Road
Letterkenny
Co. Donegal

Homepage | Internship

Maintenance/Cleaner

The intern will gain practical experience in: Cleaning, DIY and general maintenance. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: They will carry out general property maintenance and repairs, including painting and decorating, manual handling and using equipment, managing heating systems, store-keeping, working in a team

Applicants should click on the link below to download the application form. Complete and send by email to: principal@cbskilkenny.ie Post to: Tom Clarke, CbsSecondary School, James s St, Kilkenny Fax to: 0567763652

This is what the students have to look forward to, great motivation for the leaving cert huh!

On phone so can't link but earlier today I was browsing the jobs on offer and saw that my old employers Casey's Centra in Ballina were advertising a number of positions on the site. Really hope that they go out of business in the coming year as there is no reason why any of their staff should not at the very least be getting minimum wage,

Difference Engine

Those employers taking the piss here could all afford to add €100 or so to the €238 the state is paying to bring it up to minimum wage level.

maninasia

Absolutely, as well as decreasing the state's burden it would weed out the chancers.

But allowing 'shop assistant' and 'security guard' to be classed a state back internship..it's obvious this is just a scam to reduce official unemployment figures!

sunflower27

maninasia wrote: »

Absolutely, as well as decreasing the state's burden it would weed out the chancers.

But allowing 'shop assistant' and 'security guard' to be classed a state back internship..it's obvious this is just a scam to reduce official unemployment figures!

Totally!

My previous internship advertised for a new intern a few months after I left. (I completed the full internship).

I emailed Jobbridge and heard nothing back. I emailed again telling them I was going to go to the media about the obvious lack ofmonitoring and then they got back to me and took the internship down.

All the government care about is looking as if unemployment is going down so that they can somehow hang in there for another term.

Instead of actually doing something, they use this scheme to massage figures. Total scammers.

It amazes me what gets away as an internship. I would love more people to start raising questions.

It really is a disgrace.

SCOOP 64

Just looked on fas site for jobs , jobs came on this morning 4/1/13, 7, 6 are internships, 1 paid job.
getting worst. (tyre fitter,shop assistant etc..)

Dymo

I think this one is taking the piss,

Based in KILKENNY CITY
Ref. INTE-727675
Description

The intern will gain practical experience in: Cleaning, DIY and general maintenance. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: They will carry out general property maintenance and repairs, including painting and decorating, manual handling and using equipment, managing heating systems, store-keeping, working in a team. On completion the intern will have attained skills in the maintenance and care-taking of a large school. They will learn team-working and communication skills, Health & Safety issues and child protection procedures.

Skills Requirements
Honest, diligent, enthusiastic person with positive attitude. Applicants must supply suitable character references and be prepared to complete a Garda vetting application form.

Link

A school is looking for cheap labour and I don't know how learning to clean and doing a bit of painting is going help you on the jobs ladder, This will be the same school principle giving out about people who aren't willing to work when he's taking the piss out of the system and looking for cheap help instead of hiring someone.

Strawberry Fields

Some of this stuff should be printed off and shown to local politicians. I'm thinking of writing to mine I have a sinn fein and ula in my constituency.
Though I'd rather use it to explain to the Fine Gael lad exactly what a sham artist he is.

CatFromHue

The University of Limerick are looking for an intern titled:

JobBridge Internship / Researcher Dept of Politics and Public Administration

Description:
The intern will gain practical experience in: proposal writing, collaborative research design and execution, research reporting.
The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: writing of research proposals, communication of research feedback.
On completion the intern will have attained skills in: researching in a third level institution.

Person specifications: Intern must hold a PhD in some sub-disciplinary area of Political Science and/or Public Administration. Be willing to engage in collaborative research work as well as independent scholarship, administrative competency.

https://psi.ul.ie/pls/corehrrecruit/erq_search_package.search_form?p_company=1&p_internal_external=E/

Would someone holding a PhD not already have experience of researching in a third level institution as that's how they would have gotten their PhD in the first place!!

CatFromHue

CatFromHue wrote: »

The University of Limerick are looking for an intern titled:

JobBridge Internship / Researcher Dept of Politics and Public Administration

Description:
The intern will gain practical experience in: proposal writing, collaborative research design and execution, research reporting.
The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: writing of research proposals, communication of research feedback.
On completion the intern will have attained skills in: researching in a third level institution.

Person specifications: Intern must hold a PhD in some sub-disciplinary area of Political Science and/or Public Administration. Be willing to engage in collaborative research work as well as independent scholarship, administrative competency.

https://psi.ul.ie/pls/corehrrecruit/erq_search_package.search_form?p_company=1&p_internal_external=E/

Would someone holding a PhD not already have experience of researching in a third level institution as that's how they would have gotten their PhD in the first place!!

Another point - spend 4 years doin a degree another 4 doing a Phd and at the end of it you are looking at year or two doing internships in the hopes that you might get a job.......

This is what Ireland has to offer our best and brightest who spend 8 years in in study and research. Anyone who has done a Phd will have published research, spoken at conferences etc etc etc

This is the knowledge economy?

ps this is NOT the first Internship with the cheek to demand a Phd as the minimum requirements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

runawaybishop

Are you lads reporting these as you see them?

sunflower27

Maintenance/cleaner

The intern will gain practical experience in: Cleaning, DIY and general maintenance. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: They will carry out general property maintenance and repairs, including painting and decorating, manual handling and using equipment, managing heating systems, store-keeping, working in a team. On completion the intern will have attained skills in the maintenance and care-taking of a large school. They will learn team-working and communication skills, Health & Safety issues and child protection procedures.


CBS School Kilkenny - Shame on you!!

sunflower27

Loving this one!!!

Care supervisor for a homecare recruitment company. So not only are they paying staff €10/hour and keeping the same thereabouts for each hour themselves, now they want the State to pay for a care co-ordinator.

As someone who will soon be qualified to do this kind of work, there is no way I would work for Bluebird Care - ever.


The intern will gain practical experience in: doing customer care plans and risk assessments, managing customer and staff relations, coordinating care packages on our in-house system, working with Microsoft applications, compiling reports, doing care reviews, provision of care, doing care supervisions, office admin duties, working with policies and procedures, sales and marketing. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Care related training, Care Documentation, Manual Handling & Patient Moving, Elder Abuse, Induction Training, Computer System Training. On completion the intern will have attained skills in: Care provision, Care planning & risk assessments, Supervision of staff, customer & staff relations, office admin skills, computer skills, sales & marketing.

Un-fecking-believable. End this scheme and end this madness!!!

sunflower27

double post.

chrismon

Whats the point of minimum wage again?

YFlyer

CatFromHue wrote: »

The University of Limerick are looking for an intern titled:

JobBridge Internship / Researcher Dept of Politics and Public Administration

Description:
The intern will gain practical experience in: proposal writing, collaborative research design and execution, research reporting.
The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: writing of research proposals, communication of research feedback.
On completion the intern will have attained skills in: researching in a third level institution.

Person specifications: Intern must hold a PhD in some sub-disciplinary area of Political Science and/or Public Administration. Be willing to engage in collaborative research work as well as independent scholarship, administrative competency.

https://psi.ul.ie/pls/corehrrecruit/erq_search_package.search_form?p_company=1&p_internal_external=E/

Would someone holding a PhD not already have experience of researching in a third level institution as that's how they would have gotten their PhD in the first place!!

Anybody know who the supervisor or coordinator is?

looder

Deleted User wrote: »

Another point - spend 4 years doin a degree another 4 doing a Phd and at the end of it you are looking at year or two doing internships in the hopes that you might get a job.......

This is what Ireland has to offer our best and brightest who spend 8 years in in study and research. Anyone who has done a Phd will have published research, spoken at conferences etc etc etc

This is the knowledge economy?

ps this is NOT the first Internship with the cheek to demand a Phd as the minimum requirements!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not 100% true.

You don't have to have published work or spoken at conferences to have a PHD.

Some will have alright but it's not mandatory or anything.

Sure when you've some colleges paying upwards of €30, 000 on curtains (WIT) it's hard for them to be able to afford additional employees.

P.s. All colleges are running these jobridge jobs. I know somebody who worked in research in WIT on this.

0066ad

http://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/dozen-banned-from-hiring-jobbridge-interns-583057.html

They should name and shame these companies, this scheme is a total farce.

starlit

Its got ridiculous a lot of the jobbridges are companies that are on the brink and going under cannot afford to take someone on so explains why they offer free labour for nothing.

Worztron

One of the definitions of slavery: work done under harsh conditions for little or no pay. :mad:

Cantona's Collars

I know it's the UK but a landmark case has ruled that unpaid work placement schemes are unlawful.

Cait Reilly has won her Court of Appeal claim that requiring her to work for free at a Poundland discount store was unlawful
She and unemployed HGV driver Jamieson Wilson, from Nottingham, both succeeded in their claims
The ruling will not affect the schemes’ existence but will mean the way in which they are written and enforced will need to change
Lawyers say today's ruling could mean those whose benefits were stripped for refusing part in back-to-work schemes could now reclaim them

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277426/Taxpayers-facing-multi-million-pound-compensation-judges-rule-work-schemes-unlawful-Poundland-test-case.html#ixzz2Kh7VxxcO

Mars Bar

zerks wrote: »

I know it's the UK but a landmark case has ruled that unpaid work placement schemes are unlawful.



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2277426/Taxpayers-facing-multi-million-pound-compensation-judges-rule-work-schemes-unlawful-Poundland-test-case.html#ixzz2Kh7VxxcO

Good. The amount of unpaid internships in sports performance analysis at Premier League clubs is staggering.

April O Neill

https://icon.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl?job=23783&src=JB-10102
I wonder does this fall under job bridge? I know someone who did this job (as a paid position) and it was unbelieveably stressful. The idea that someone could be doing that job for 2 hundred and something euro a week. Grrrr! :mad:

spank_inferno

April O Neill wrote: »

https://icon.taleo.net/careersection/2/jobdetail.ftl?job=23783&src=JB-10102
I wonder does this fall under job bridge? I know someone who did this job (as a paid position) and it was unbelieveably stressful. The idea that someone could be doing that job for 2 hundred and something euro a week. Grrrr! :mad:

I didnt notice it on the jobsbridge site so it could be a normal internal Internship within that company.

If it was Jobsbridge they are not doing the work for €200-odd per week, they are doing the work for €50.

April O Neill

spank_inferno wrote: »

I didnt notice it on the jobsbridge site so it could be a normal internal Internship within that company.

If it was Jobsbridge they are not doing the work for €200-odd per week, they are doing the work for €50.

Ah ha, it is Jobbridge: http://www.irishjobs.ie/Jobs/Biomedical-Scientist-Intern-Position-7024904.aspx

The 200-odd figure I got for Jobbridge is dole + 50.

Anyway, that's mental. You'd learn a lot in the role, true, but it should be paid. Properly.

fishy fishy

gonedrinking wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2011/0629/internship.html

A National Internship Scheme has been launched by Taoiseach Enda Kenny in Dublin.
The two-year JobBridge programme will offer work placements to 5,000 people who are on the Live Register.
The jobs will be offered in a range of companies in the private, public, community and voluntary sector.
So far 500 companies have expressed an interest in taking part and have offered 1,000 places.

They include the Quinn Group, Smurfit Kappa, Mercury Engineering and Aer Lingus.
The placements will last between six and nine months and participants will be paid €50 extra a week on top of their existing social welfare payments.
They will retain all of their additional benefits and it is open to anyone who has been signing-on for at least three months.
Companies offering places must have at least one full-time employee and the intern cannot displace an existing worker.
Minister for Social Protection Joan Burton has said those availing of the initiative would not be exploited.

The scheme begins on 1 July.
The initiative has been welcomed by business groups Chambers Ireland and IBEC.
Ian Talbot Chambers Ireland Chief Executive said: 'This will enable participants to gain invaluable work-place experience while also contributing to the operation of the business.
'It is hoped that many of these companies will in turn be able to offer employment opportunities as result.'
IBEC Director General Danny McCoy said it will be promoting the scheme among its members.
Mr McCoy said: 'The scheme provides those seeking employment with the chance to gain valuable work experience, maintain close links with the labour market and enhance their skills. We strongly support it.'



I'm no fan of FG but this seems like a very good idea. People on the dole get valuable experience while companies get cheap labour. Although from the article it sounds like the taxpayer is going to be paying the intern the extra 50 euro a week, but surely this should be paid by the company, and even better, the company should also be making a small contribution to the employee's normal dole amount so the taxpayer is slightly better off. Also, I hope struggling companies and companies only making small profits get preference over companies making large profits.

sorry, but there are people on the dole now that could give courses in "work experience" - people seem to automatically think that people on the dole need some sort of experiences as they know nothing.

In fact...this is cheap labour dressed up as a brand new exciting idea, so the masses will fall for it ...yet again.

An honest days work for an honest days pay - NOT A TOKEN GESTURE.

stateofflux

this bull**** argument for the value of 'experience' may be applicable to a struggling IT graduate or a trainee accountant / legal graduate but a sizable amount of the ads up there are not for high qual / skill level interns.

ejmaztec

The tight-arsed fuckers will carry on getting away with this intern crap for as long as it exists.

Donkey-work for nine months or whatever, then out the door for the next person to avail of this "exciting opportunity."

Dartz

Was supposed to get a job out of mine...


Nearly did with nother company but a family member partying until 6am the morning before the interview scuppered that.


And I've been told that, while I'm great and everything.... there just isn't the money expected. Turnover was... less than planned. It's not bull**** I've seen the figured and there just isn't enough there for another salaried employee.

Disheartening.

Niles

April O Neill wrote: »

The 200-odd figure I got for Jobbridge is dole + 50.
.

And depending what level of JSA/JSB you're on you mightn't even hit €200 a week...

Torakx

Whats the deal with people doing 20 hours college a week?
Do they still cut your welfare if you say you dont want to accept a placement?

It would handicap me from progressing into a job! my course provides work placement hopefully at the end, in one of the fastest growing industries.
I really am not a fan of slave labour(especially while attending a full time course and studying all week, but I may be homeless if my welfare is cut right now.

Advice appreciated.

Boombastic

Torakx wrote: »

Whats the deal with people doing 20 hours college a week?
Do they still cut your welfare if you say you dont want to accept a placement?

It would handicap me from progressing into a job! my course provides work placement hopefully at the end, in one of the fastest growing industries.
I really am not a fan of slave labour(especially while attending a full time course and studying all week, but I may be homeless if my welfare is cut right now.

Advice appreciated.

If you're on a full time course they should not be asking you to do jobridge.

Torakx

Boombastic wrote: »

If you're on a full time course they should not be asking you to do jobridge.

Ye it doesnt make sense.Or it didnt until I saw why they created the scam in the first place.
Seems to be just for olitics and funding from Europe our new Hq since Lisbon treaty
Now it makes perfect sense and im worried.
Its a great way to get me off social welfare and out onto the streets, while losing my course at the same time

Even 40 euro cut would maybe be enough that I could afford rent but not food.
I live on 40 a week with a specialised diet as it is.

I just am not sure of my reply yet.
If I say yes i will do it, I will not be able to feed myself and go to college.
I already walk 1 hour each way to save money.

If I say no and give my reasons and goals, I run the risk of them having a free go and I may be homeless in a few months.

Its a tough call.
I have been stepped on and screwed soooo many times by the Irigh gov, I fully expect to be screwed again at any given chance.
Been told complete lies in social welfare many times!I mean complete lies and threats.
One time I was told that because I share a 2 bedroom flat with a friend, I might be cut because of new homosexual same sex partner laws!
I kid you not.
I was like " wtf! I am only sharing" he wa like" well thems the rules coming out soon"
Im considering also writing to alocal TD or whatever, I hate politicians and politics, but when faced with homelessness I will try take anyone to any court I can.

Appreciate any and all advice.
Got till 15th of march to have the reply to them.

Thanks

Boombastic

Torakx wrote: »

Ye it doesnt make sense.Or it didnt until I saw why they created the scam in the first place.
Seems to be just for olitics and funding from Europe our new Hq since Lisbon treaty
Now it makes perfect sense and im worried.
Its a great way to get me off social welfare and out onto the streets, while losing my course at the same time

Even 40 euro cut would maybe be enough that I could afford rent but not food.
I live on 40 a week with a specialised diet as it is.

I just am not sure of my reply yet.
If I say yes i will do it, I will not be able to feed myself and go to college.
I already walk 1 hour each way to save money.

If I say no and give my reasons and goals, I run the risk of them having a free go and I may be homeless in a few months.

Its a tough call.

Just tell them you are on a full time course. but they should know this