Internship scheme offers 5,000 work placements to people on the dole

Torakx

Oh if only it was so simple as using facts with these "people".
How do I know they wont completely cut me off for making the wrong "choice"?
Once i send that letter theres no going back, or so it feels.
I was hoping that others in my situation would be able to share experiences so I can judge the consequences.
Id probably choose trying to do 20 hour college and homework and just turn up late fo the comunity stuff while i attempt to do work placement for another college related job lol
While starving!
Im wasting away as it is haha

Boombastic

Torakx wrote: »

Oh if only it was so simple as using facts with these "people".
How do I know they wont completely cut me off for making the wrong "choice"?
Once i send that letter theres no going back, or so it feels.
I was hoping that others in my situation would be able to share experiences so I can judge the consequences.
Id probably choose trying to do 20 hour college and homework and just turn up late fo the comunity stuff while i attempt to do work placement for another college related job lol
While starving!
Im wasting away as it is haha

Are you receiving JSA or JSB on a full time course?

Torakx

Boombastic wrote: »

Are you receiving JSA or JSB on a full time course?

BTEA (back to education allowance).I was on JSA.
I had to switch over to go on the course and I beleive it was this thatset in motion my current issue.
Seems its easier to just sit on the dole, I always get severe hassle and threats of being homeless as soon as I get proactive
Sure why would I just get training and straight into a job, that would be too easy!

Its a full time course with 10 days work experience required.
33 week course.
Its one of those Momentum courses run through fas.
An upskill course, supposedly intensive and supposed to put us straight into work placements.So I will be doing alot of work from home meet the requirments for the industry.

Maybe I am being overly cautious and it may just be one of those awkward situations, but I have been burned so many times, it isnt worth risking it.

Oh ive been on this course 4 weeks now roughly, so i figure they must have known anyway i was on the Momentum scheme and they still want to do slave labour.
I really feel sorry for those who are forced into that situation, have been reading the horror stories.

Boombastic

Torakx wrote: »

BTEA (back to education allowance).I was on JSA.
I had to switch over to go on the course and I beleive it was this thatset in motion my current issue.
Seems its easier to just sit on the dole, I always get severe hassle and threats of being homeless as soon as I get proactive
Sure why would I just get training and straight into a job, that would be too easy!

Its a full time course with 10 days work experience required.
33 week course.
Its one of those Momentum courses run through fas.
An upskill course, supposedly intensive and supposed to put us straight into work placements.So I will be doing alot of work from home meet the requirments for the industry.

Maybe I am being overly cautious and it may just be one of those awkward situations, but I have been burned so many times, it isnt worth risking it.

Yes you are being overly cautious, if you're on BTEA and in full time Ed, just tell them this if they ask you to do jobbridge (which they shouldn't) I think you're panicking about nothing TBH

Torakx

Probably am over reacting.
Getting burned so much kind of causes this repsonse lol
It becomes hard to tell when someone in there is being sincere or slying trying to screw you over.
I am considering recording all contact I have with them for these reasons.Which is annoying for me.Id rather an honest conversation even if it was blunt, Id know where I stand.
Thanks for the advice.
Il check with others on my course tomorrow, before replying, just to see if I am a single case or not.

Torakx

I just realised what they did.
I applied for BTEA and because the course is run through fas but paid by social welfare, I am still on JSA....
So im confused what they expect.Im going to have to go in and sort it out.

Backstreet Moyes

Torakx wrote: »

Probably am over reacting.
Getting burned so much kind of causes this repsonse lol
It becomes hard to tell when someone in there is being sincere or slying trying to screw you over.
I am considering recording all contact I have with them for these reasons.Which is annoying for me.Id rather an honest conversation even if it was blunt, Id know where I stand.
Thanks for the advice.
Il check with others on my course tomorrow, before replying, just to see if I am a single case or not.

My friend told me to record all meetings but i never listened. Now after following the advice from TUS and pulling out of a job that wasn't benefiting me it looks like i am going to get cut in my JSA. I would advise anybody in future to record all meetings.

Backstreet Moyes

Torakx wrote: »

Probably am over reacting.
Getting burned so much kind of causes this repsonse lol
It becomes hard to tell when someone in there is being sincere or slying trying to screw you over.
I am considering recording all contact I have with them for these reasons.Which is annoying for me.Id rather an honest conversation even if it was blunt, Id know where I stand.
Thanks for the advice.
Il check with others on my course tomorrow, before replying, just to see if I am a single case or not.

Do you know where to get the equipment to record your conversations?

Also I contacted INOU yesterday they emailed me back looking for my number and rang me this morning. They told me not to worry for now and if i end up having to meet with the dole they will help me out. They told me if the dole are going to cut me to make sure i get it in writing their reasons for doing so. After i told them my story they said they would help me and were reasuring.

It might ease your mind to contact them and explain to them your situation and they will advise you of your options.

Also if you give them your number they rang me on private number so if you miss the call it will probably be them.

Boombastic

Nuts102 wrote: »

Do you know where to get the equipment to record your conversations?
...................

Some phones can do it, I know my samsung can:)

Torakx

yep my sony ericsson can too.I went in and asked to meet the person who sent me the letter.
I was reassured I was not expected after hearing i was on a fulltime course.
I didnt get round to recording the convo, I know its a good idea, I just dont like to decieve
Even if its for my own good.And to ask if i could record might make me an enemy and get my dole cut anyway out of spite.
So in the end I was told I am exempt and that I was not expected to do it.
The second option was ticked and i was asked to sign it, which i did.
Once again I am told I am ok, but who knows!
I will have to wait and see if its settled.
Ussually you find out it isnt when yuo go to collect your social welfare and its not there lol
So I gues I wil be expecting it cut next week and if its not then, I will start to semi relax until the next threat

StillWaters

You shouldnt be collecting your money in the post office if you are on Momentum BTEA, it should be paid to your bank account.

Guy:Incognito

http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1243460

Windsor liffey valley looking for interns to sell cars for them.

http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1251678

Spirit aswell.

Definately no out of work car salesmen they could hire for proper paid jobs......................:rolleyes:


Or you could get the same job in Joe Duffys and be paid €20,000 a year for it http://www.jobs.ie/ApplyForJob.aspx?Id=1146929

ArtSmart

Finally some sexy internships....


Financial Controller

and

Business Development Executive


OH, no....wait a minute.....


http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DDBem0fl85LUTkN4XsEXb/41KIEwX3viiBKDJyuE+VvlRlPxBOz+AimO1mf5xzG22tSzbAYaURIpvhubNvYoU/5pdqxYVhFG4Sfx4DykKF/ZfY0pfeHjfjzf5YSFnXwmOaXmsA2SwVIENDP6zG9J0bbllS2leO9ap187Qd9V1TJRMrzNcPI/eIlMqTW7sGPUqZuiAZXE50c5rOkEPLp0nw2U23RaqjBOCtD1pgE5Z/WCGB0s5NKr5mEfNSKjp15wb6iTx1XLnKX+IaE/FJhBz9LAuM5SNBYYJfJJVCV2m26KHotUShtO+PmmMjuRouQ6oTr3whZ72NmXXjZTtGR+7TkKlpaZw9l2KH8+4uYrtJY/cU7HOuxDXt1tvi1emaKSkwnPT59dTbb7qd75X2I9CcHSgb0n8pfDrWJ0AHcg77ag[/URL]

company is http://www.kwl.ie/




below is the 'Executive' position (always wondered what them lads did....)

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DH34hjOYchny9IxVH4Qskk/VOqSqD9XyQFvFY5Xalsznj3ruRNv5Zk+2pMIjgKrRXg9OMkO0ohrVf7rsRfBFTxHdd98nzJ9d8MGVkPi4l8AMkz8X4yEE7LVEeY+Cf5/gpDhcJYk8WdkhHyN+9pUU82Xy8T/BzKlp9Q6ntN9HtSXqaq6Ss4/uuHcXIUH060Ev+1iwSgfCHC+C/+y4XT+zl5sBEvJmWMtEBTHAO90w3KeiOKxEHAxNVgZFdq5JH6Das0eTib7qfWsSAv68CLuLvr20lNlUBU/ohJAfeSE3H/GenDFW7f6GxY6mdj2ZWu/vyIup1YArezTidSdaRHd/VwWrys4pa2yRhy5lKubtmXSzGNKv0htktULv4fEKm9dI2245yMo74d/+8MUUhBO4+Qk5ABp8iFHs4y5YmLsMEVql

Dravokivich

The Business Development Executive is a bullshít one. It's basically telemarketing going by the job description. The role there doesn't reflect the title at all.

Education Requirements:
Third Level - Fully qualified ACA/ACCA/CIMA (or equivalent)

By definition you must have at least three years professional experience to have any of those qualifications - this isn't an internship role.

ArtSmart

This is the Business Development Executive one. the link seems to have, em, well, it's not working....

wrote:

Created on: 09/04/2013 | Updated on: 09/04/2013 | Displayed until 04/06/2013 50 days from now
Based in CLARE COUNTY
Ref. INTE-754083
Description

The intern will gain practical experience in Marketing, Sales & General Administration specifically Database Management, html, email marketing, as well as traditional marketing such as Cold Calling, Direct Mail and Print. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following : sales administration, marketing,digital media,collateral development and customer service. And on completion the intern will have attained skills in marketing, sales, customer service and general Administration.
Skills Requirements

Highly skilled in using up to the minute web based communication tools & proficient in all aspects of PC & Web based tools. Dedicated in delivering high levels of customer satisfaction. Meet deadlines & work in a pressurized environment. A self-starter, good planning & organisational skills. Proficient Knowledge of Microsoft Office, PDF & other document formats. Excellent command of the English language.

Financial Controller

wrote:

Created on: 15/02/2013 | Updated on: 19/02/2013 | Displayed until 15/04/2013
Based in ENNIS TOWN
Ref. INTE-742482
Description

The intern will gain practical experience in implementing budgets, forecasts, cash flows. Prep. of monthly PL & Balance Sheet, ensuring that appropriate systems and internal controls are implemented & maintained according to the requirements of the company Skills in timely production of statutory & internal financial reports, critical to the management of the business Responsible for development of financial reporting. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: cash flows, expense management and reporting structures. On completion the intern will have attained skills in accounts, financial management & reporting.

Education Requirements:

Third Level - Fully qualified ACA/ACCA/CIMA (or equivalent)

I really do wonder if the govt are aware of this nonsense. I sadly think they are. As of course are FAS/ Solas, or whatever they're called now.

snubbleste

The Army wants a PE instructor
The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following, the design and supervision of training programmes to include military fitness and the conduct of Defence Forces physical fitness tests. On completion the intern will have attained skills in in communications with individuals and groups and all aspects of gym management.
Education required - Third Level Degree in Sport & Exercise/PE Teaching or equivalent HETAC level 7/8

snubbleste

Subway want a team member
The intern will gain practical experience in Customer Service, food preparation,and working as part of a team. On completion the intern will have attained skills in all aspects of working in a busy restaurant including the use of a computerised till system, coffee machine and catering equipment.
No Experience Required

snubbleste

Public hospital wants a Medical Physicist
The intern will gain practical experience in Medical Physics with one placement having an emphasis on Nuclear Medicine. The intern will receive formal/informal training in the following: Project scoping and understanding, underlying principles learning, project plan development, design of experiments and results collection and project reporting.
Education requirements - BSc(Hon) and MSc in Medical Physics

dipole

dipole wrote:

Homepage | Intreo
8 interns for windscreen fitting.
Autoglass have plenty of work it would appear.

Normally you'd say shun those companies which abuse the scheme but in this case you can't shun them because Autoglass are one of a handful of companies that are permitted to replace windscreen glass for Motor Insurance companies.
The competition authority know it's anti-competitive but won't step in to make the free market work.
There are hundreds of windscreen fitters (one man opperations) across the country who have gone out of business because they are not allowed to direct bill the insurance company anymore. They can either ask the customer to pay and get a refund when the work is approved or they can shoulder the cost of the job knowing that the insurance company will often cancel the claim and leave them out of pocket.

So here we have a multi-national company which is allowed to operate in anti-competitive manner by TCA and they are hiring interns to do the job paid for by social welfare and the extra 50 quid per week is coming out of my 2.4% private pension levy.....and FAS/intreo are hoovering up all the CVs for unemployed windscreen fitters who don't need to be Interns and giving them to the company who was responsible for them loosing their jobs in the first place.

Do Autoglass has any current real vacancies. According to the website they don't. Jobs at Autoglass® - Windscreen repair & replacement - Autoglass® Ireland

It is a sick sick Country.

National Internship Scheme • thepropertypin.com

http://www.thepropertypin.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=29274&start=630

Minister Joan Burton and the Crafts Council of Ireland announce extension of pilot internship scheme for the craft sector « MerrionStreet.ie Irish Government News Service

more expansion of this scheme

Since 1st July 2013, companies who employ interns and are eligible for the new JobsPlus Scheme may qualify for a financial incentive of up to €10,000, payable each month over a 2-year period to qualifying employers, which helps to offset wage costs.

sunflower27

Why not just remove the scheme and let the unemployed apply for real jobs?

This scheme is going nowhere. It is unbelievable.

sunflower27

sunflower27 wrote: »

Why not just remove the scheme and let the unemployed apply for real jobs?

This scheme is going nowhere. It is unbelievable.

Because Burton is doing her uptmost to show us what champagne socialist economics are. Take the worst of crony capitalism & communism - private business gets the profits of state funded slave labour.

It isn`t good enough that she is offering businesses free labour but now she is PAYING them to take it. What business could compete with a company that is getting paid to take free labour? It was bad enough when businesses that paid wages had to compete against ones that used free labour.

This is insane and it will have huge social implications too. Adult children will be stuck at home or will have to emigrate to have a chance at standing on their own two feet. Look at Italy & France for examples of older generations pulling the ladder up behind themselves in protected jobs.

Ive just been reading through this thread. I cant believe that this is going on. Has it ever been highlighted within the media at all?

I didn't know anything of the scale of the situation and how ridiculous this scheme has become. While I see the merits of the scheme it is clearly just being horribly abused at this point.

Has anyone looked for explanations from TDs? It really needs to be highlighted for the farce which it has become.

TheTorment

TheTorment wrote: »

Ive just been reading through this thread. I cant believe that this is going on. Has it ever been highlighted within the media at all?

I didn't know anything of the scale of the situation and how ridiculous this scheme has become. While I see the merits of the scheme it is clearly just being horribly abused at this point.

Has anyone looked for explanations from TDs? It really needs to be highlighted for the farce which it has become.

Unfortunately it has been going on for years now, when I graduated a few years ago all the jobs in my field were internships! I work in a small specialised area and it was completely wiped out by jobbridge. I`m in Australia now. And it didnt take long for companies to really stretch the internships - early on there were toilet cleaning internships - I posted a screen shot on several websites of this.

Fianna Fails WPP 1/2 schemes were the very same thing, FG and Labour just changed the name and pretended they did something new. The slow social change that will be generated by this as it becomes the norm will be massive but unnoticed as it progresses.

maninasia

It's all about looking like they are doing something and having control over allocation of resources, tax and spend.

It would be far more efficient to drop the minimum wage requirement a little (but keep it significantly higher than social welfare support) drop social welfare rates, cancel job bridge, significantly cut PRSI on employers with the money saved (job bridge admin costs/social welfare costs) and let the employer/employee supply and demand find it's own equilibrium.

But they have to go up and screw the whole thing up with their bizarre Communist-Capitalist style system (Communism with Irish characteristics).

SEANoftheDEAD

Honest Tea Cafe & Deli
Unit 2, Newmarket Hall
Cork Street
Dublin 8

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DNER6auWP0s99kCgvTLcOSlEDDNqgeh2oWLfjgiA7Vps9UIrtphYB%2FgHRvi8VWs9G7pdxv5kZfkrv0eIp9KsWUJCWtNTIkC8E5ClXFD7EFloirGxmLPfUwhnslV+LiMP2CrIUl7nsDMBbd%2FBxSI1H%2FIhQUsnkqCuHygtFZpB1idhhTHl3TH1QrrdMPDHwHF9glGmqJQ7FHyGGXQ8ag5GTyRz3t0zGgBUBPyGeDf5wOV%2F+IETUlaNuDwI4n9jM3fLyaTRm%2FEP5oPTdGPwhKeCS5tr0xaHguxC6o6onevh5fARhXZPhtCe8ku+Hhy8rUjsJ8yWf8zQoxsMCFRRowaXrdd76XwdVWrqEXSo9GTKMuXMPW8uqLtU%2F0+TMZA+B8DmwRwK+nrKVOXC5i0hxH30W4m3Km0pmcGYQSy1WQ2DL+4P



9 Month internship in the art of coffee making!

dbrunson

The companies advertising the role should be boycotted, every job has a value, this scheme is retarded, these companies deserve email account full of bull****/made up cv's.

starlit

SEANoftheDEAD wrote: »

Honest Tea Cafe & Deli
Unit 2, Newmarket Hall
Cork Street
Dublin 8

http://jobseeker.fas.ie/Default.aspx?q=B+fomdowzS8kaDnSlUDk1zaMUPiFEeNrNWjviinu490thmC2C0u+DNER6auWP0s99kCgvTLcOSlEDDNqgeh2oWLfjgiA7Vps9UIrtphYB%2FgHRvi8VWs9G7pdxv5kZfkrv0eIp9KsWUJCWtNTIkC8E5ClXFD7EFloirGxmLPfUwhnslV+LiMP2CrIUl7nsDMBbd%2FBxSI1H%2FIhQUsnkqCuHygtFZpB1idhhTHl3TH1QrrdMPDHwHF9glGmqJQ7FHyGGXQ8ag5GTyRz3t0zGgBUBPyGeDf5wOV%2F+IETUlaNuDwI4n9jM3fLyaTRm%2FEP5oPTdGPwhKeCS5tr0xaHguxC6o6onevh5fARhXZPhtCe8ku+Hhy8rUjsJ8yWf8zQoxsMCFRRowaXrdd76XwdVWrqEXSo9GTKMuXMPW8uqLtU%2F0+TMZA+B8DmwRwK+nrKVOXC5i0hxH30W4m3Km0pmcGYQSy1WQ2DL+4P



9 Month internship in the art of coffee making!

That's madness, candidate offering coffee service, customers pay for coffee wouldn't you expect the candidate to be paid as its suppose to be a proper paid job. If you work in any café you at least get minimum wage or get some kind of wage!? Talk about café taking advantage and wanting to keep their own profits for their own selfish business needs. You could work in the café for hours/weeks/months at a time doing shift work.

Anonymous24

Hey

I'm meant to start my job bridge fairly soon, pending eligibility but I know I'll be eligible. Thing is, I'm sceptical about the whole job bridge scheme. I need experience, initially that's why I applied for the job, but I didn't expect it to be such long hours, is it the norm to be working M-F 9-5:30 on a job bridge?

The company has mentioned twice now how much of a bad rap the job bridge scheme is getting but that they're not like that, they're a small Irish firm and hope to employ the candidate after the 9 months is up, but I feel like I'm taking a big risk.

9 months, M-F 9-5:30 is a fairly hectic considering I'm only getting €50 extra in return, not to mention a blow to the self-esteem!!

Anonymous24

Hey

I'm meant to start my job bridge fairly soon, pending eligibility but I know I'll be eligible. Thing is, I'm sceptical about the whole job bridge scheme. I need experience, initially that's why I applied for the job, but I didn't expect it to be such long hours, is it the norm to be working M-F 9-5:30 on a job bridge?

The company has mentioned twice now how much of a bad rap the job bridge scheme is getting but that they're not like that, they're a small Irish firm and hope to employ the candidate after the 9 months is up, but I feel like I'm taking a big risk.

9 months, M-F 9-5:30 is fairly hectic considering I'm only getting €50 extra in return, not to mention a blow to the self-esteem!!

veryangryman

Anonymous24 wrote: »

Hey

I'm meant to start my job bridge fairly soon, pending eligibility but I know I'll be eligible. Thing is, I'm sceptical about the whole job bridge scheme. I need experience, initially that's why I applied for the job, but I didn't expect it to be such long hours, is it the norm to be working M-F 9-5:30 on a job bridge?

The company has mentioned twice now how much of a bad rap the job bridge scheme is getting but that they're not like that, they're a small Irish firm and hope to employ the candidate after the 9 months is up, but I feel like I'm taking a big risk.

9 months, M-F 9-5:30 is a fairly hectic considering I'm only getting €50 extra in return, not to mention a blow to the self-esteem!!

If it gets you the break you need in the long run, then bite the hand off them. If i was out of college and crying out to get some experience, id jump on JobBridge.

I would of course report the employer if they didn't keep me on (without a damn good reason)

osarusan

Anonymous24 wrote: »

Hey

I'm meant to start my job bridge fairly soon, pending eligibility but I know I'll be eligible. Thing is, I'm sceptical about the whole job bridge scheme. I need experience, initially that's why I applied for the job, but I didn't expect it to be such long hours, is it the norm to be working M-F 9-5:30 on a job bridge?

The company has mentioned twice now how much of a bad rap the job bridge scheme is getting but that they're not like that, they're a small Irish firm and hope to employ the candidate after the 9 months is up, but I feel like I'm taking a big risk.

9 months, M-F 9-5:30 is fairly hectic considering I'm only getting €50 extra in return, not to mention a blow to the self-esteem!!

How much have you heard about what you'll be doing?

Do you think that you'll be getting good experience over the 9 months? Is it the kind of work that might realistically take 9 months for training and a decent bit of experience?

They may well be company that will treat you well, train you well, and employ you after 9 months, or all that might just be lip service.

Wompa1

Anonymous24 wrote: »

Hey

I'm meant to start my job bridge fairly soon, pending eligibility but I know I'll be eligible. Thing is, I'm sceptical about the whole job bridge scheme. I need experience, initially that's why I applied for the job, but I didn't expect it to be such long hours, is it the norm to be working M-F 9-5:30 on a job bridge?

The company has mentioned twice now how much of a bad rap the job bridge scheme is getting but that they're not like that, they're a small Irish firm and hope to employ the candidate after the 9 months is up, but I feel like I'm taking a big risk.

9 months, M-F 9-5:30 is fairly hectic considering I'm only getting €50 extra in return, not to mention a blow to the self-esteem!!

What's your alternative? What do you do for work now?

How much is your time worth, currently?

bjork

List of 11, 393 out of 16,471
companies who have used JobBridge

https://uniteyouthdublin.files.wordpress.com/2015/05/record-1-replace.pdf



from here

http://uniteyouthdublin.com/2015/05/04/11394-organisations/