Kendrick Lamar

Orizio

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

i showed you up already for replying to something i never said, thats enough conversation with you for one day.;)

In other words you were talking through your hole, gotcha.

Orizio

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Bollocks is Dre being lazy, he'd obviously give Kendrick beats if he wanted them, kendrick uses his beats, dre gets more dough, simples.

This isnt the first time in history somebody has turned down beats from a high quality producer, didnt Nas turn down an albums worth of beats from premo for his new album earlier in the year?

If Dre wasn't lazy Detox would have been released years ago.

And neither you or the other dude are privy to whether or not Dre offered anyone beats, so please stop with the assumptions and slander, cheers.

Orizio

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

whoa who's judging the album? .

You.

looking like this album could turn out like cole's , a complete let down.

An utterly pathetic comment based off the listening of snippets, of all things. Making massive and negative assumptions on a LP you haven't heard is a really sad new trend in Hip-Hop that needs to stop immediately.

Nevermind the fact that you are way off, this LP sounds brilliant so far. :pac:

Bobby Baccala

Orizio wrote: »

If Dre wasn't lazy Detox would have been released years ago.

And neither you or the other dude are privy to whether or not Dre offered anyone beats, so please stop with the assumptions and slander, cheers.

And you aren't privy to why Detox hasnt been released yet either.

Where did i slander anybody?

Orizio

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

And you aren't privy to why Detox hasnt been released yet either.

Yeah I'm sure the label is holding back one of the most anticipated Hip-Hop album of all time...

And - 'a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report', regarding Kendrick rejecting Dre beats. Although I suppose Mufc was more the slanderous one, but anyway.

Bobby Baccala

Orizio wrote: »

Yeah I'm sure the label is holding back one of the most anticipated Hip-Hop album of all time...

So basically what you're saying is you know fúck all about it.

conor.hogan.2

Lazy. Yeah. NWA, Snoop, Eminem, 50 cent, Game oh and the dozens of artists he tried to help but just couldn't sell enough. Not to mention him reviving dozen of others careers. You might have also heard of his 2 solo albums, they did not sell much or have much of an impact they were very lazy efforts. 2 labels, high selling headphones, deal with HTC and HP.

Big difference between being lazy and being a perfectionist and picky.

mufcboy1999

I couldnt be bothered arguing with this fella, best thing is too Ignore him lads he still thinks he's modding around here. Respect my authority Cartman type posts.

jonneymendoza

Love this album

MD1990

it has the feel of a proper album
not like alot of albums nowadays that sound like a bunch of singles on a cd

baddebt

I listened to the album in full both last night and this morning ,

its ok , it just isn't jumping out at me the way Section 80 did first time I heard it
(what does really annoy me on the album is all the snippets and interludes ...........I don't want to hear a grandfather moaning about where his domino pizza is )etc

I'm sure it will grow on me ,
at first listen its a 6/10 for me

I expected better , and was hoping for this to be album of the year ,

Orizio

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Lazy. Yeah. NWA, Snoop, Eminem, 50 cent, Game oh and the dozens of artists he tried to help but just couldn't sell enough. Not to mention him reviving dozen of others careers. You might have also heard of his 2 solo albums, they did not sell much or have much of an impact they were very lazy efforts. 2 labels, high selling headphones, deal with HTC and HP.

Big difference between being lazy and being a perfectionist and picky.

...can you not read? Why are you talking about NWA and Snoop? I'm talking him being lazy RECENTLY, which everyone, bar people on this site who are obsessed with him, would agree with.

Admittedly he has sold a lot of very mediocre headphones for extortionate prices to a lot of very stupid people recently.

Orizio

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

I couldnt be bothered arguing with this fella, best thing is too Ignore him lads he still thinks he's modding around here. Respect my authority Cartman type posts.

For someone so determined to ignore me you keep talking about me in your posts...very peculiar.

Orizio

As an aside, I'm waiting for people to back up their deranged judgements from the snippets, how the album is 'commercial', a disappointment like Cole's album etc.

Bobby Baccala

Orizio wrote: »

...can you not read? Why are you talking about NWA and Snoop? I'm talking him being lazy RECENTLY, which everyone, bar people on this site who are obsessed with him, would agree with.

Admittedly he has sold a lot of very mediocre headphones for extortionate prices to a lot of very stupid people recently.

I'm not sure if there's any posters here obsessed with him. personally i'm not even a fan, i'd be one of his biggest critics on this forum, i dont like him as a rapper and as a producer he'd be nowhere near the top of my list.

Da Shins Kelly

I'm gonna give it a listen tonight.

Interestingly, I met a lad from the US the other night and was talking to him about Kendrick and he said that he's not half as popular in the US as he seems to be in Europe. He said he's met more people here talking about Kendrick than he has at home, he only knows a handful of people who have any interest in him.

horsebox09

It's crazy how much Kendrick sounds like Andre 3000 circa ATLiens-Aquemini on the intro, from the storytelling, imagery, even his delivery

Actually, a lot of this album reminds me of Aquemini, with the extended skits at the end of most tracks

I've only listened to it once, and it was one hell of a listen!
I love the way Backseat Freestyle, which, to me, in the context of the album, is Kendrick just freestyling for his crew as a kid, and then The Art of Peer Pressure comes in and builds on that.

As a poster said, this is an ALBUM, not something you stick on shuffle, this needs to be played front to back.

mufcboy1999

baddebt wrote: »

I listened to the album in full both last night and this morning ,

its ok , it just isn't jumping out at me the way Section 80 did first time I heard it
(what does really annoy me on the album is all the snippets and interludes ...........I don't want to hear a grandfather moaning about where his domino pizza is )etc

I'm sure it will grow on me ,
at first listen its a 6/10 for me

I expected better , and was hoping for this to be album of the year ,

+1 , i feel pretty much the same atm.

I feel a bit let down by it though and there's no point in just backing KL up just for the sake of being a fan. KL has been my favourite rapper for some time now dating back to when i started this thread and that was before section 80, to me its a let down and tbh the album isnt fit to lace section 80s boots everything from his lryics, flow, substance etc have all been under-par.

PrettyBoy

Orizio wrote: »

I'm talking him being lazy RECENTLY, which everyone, bar people on this site who are obsessed with him, would agree with.

I'd probably be one of his biggest critics around here but he is not lazy in any sense of the word, his focus is just not on the music anymore, he's more interested in his headphone business and, evidently, it's working out pretty well for him, so who could blame him? Lazy people don't get to the top of the Forbes list.

Orizio wrote: »

Admittedly he has sold a lot of very mediocre headphones for extortionate prices to a lot of very stupid people recently

Relax.. that's just good business, which is what Dre is focusing on these days.

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Interestingly, I met a lad from the US the other night and was talking to him about Kendrick and he said that he's not half as popular in the US as he seems to be in Europe. He said he's met more people here talking about Kendrick than he has at home, he only knows a handful of people who have any interest in him.

Never would have thought that. Not too many of my mates know who he is and those that do probably heard about him from me. He hasn't had a big debut single like Em, 50, Game, etc., it'll be interesting to see what kind of first week numbers he does.

PrettyBoy

Kendrick brought out Game and Dre at his show in LA last night, really can't wait to see him perform live next time he's in Europe.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_ux9hmUZaE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Do4_vyhZmDk

Paul1979

album of the year imo, and i think its better than s80

agree with the similarities to aquemini aswell..

tracks i dont like are backseat and the drake tune..hate the ****

9/10 for me

hopefully if it does well jigga will finally release jay electronica

Orizio

Paul1979 wrote: »

album of the year imo, and i think its better than s80

agree with the similarities to aquemini aswell..

tracks i dont like are backseat and the drake tune..hate the ****

9/10 for me

hopefully if it does well jigga will finally release jay electronica

Those are both pretty good imo. The Mary J Blige track stands out a little, doesn't really fit in with the LP as a whole. Cartoons & Cereal should be on there as well imo, one of his best tracks ever.

Kendrick is basically the Andre 3000 of the West. Can't give much bigger of a compliment.

conor.hogan.2

Orizio wrote: »

Admittedly he has sold a lot of very mediocre headphones for extortionate prices to a lot of very stupid people recently.

Keeping a record label running. Starting a very very lucrative business and doing a deal with a large PC manufacturer, a phone company and getting the 2pac hologram on coachella.

That is not lazy, that is not producing as much as you used to do. You must be very productive.

Oh that was 2011 and 2012, and that is not mentioning all he did with KL and others whether they are or ever will be released.

Mikeyt086

Just had a listen through there.

Really enjoyed it. Normally hate skits at the end of songs but I enjoyed all of them on this, "Wheres my muthafukin dominoes?"

m.A.A.d city, Bitch Dant Kill My Vibe and Money Trees stood out as amazing for me, didn't really like Poetic Justice and I'm someone who normally likes Drake. Still obsessed with The Art of Peer Pressure, love the extended intro. That and Swimming Pools are probably the strongest tracks on the album.

Great album. Anyone who feels let down must have just expected far too much as that is as solid an album as you will come across these days.

PrettyBoy

Went into HMV Grafton Street earlier this afternoon only to find out that the CD doesn't go on sale until Tuesday? No idea why this is, every album I've bought for the last few years has always been released on the Friday :mad:

Day = ruined!

LUPE

That's strange, was gonna D/L it later cos usually in Ireland we get them a few days before

conor.hogan.2

If the other tracks are even half as good as art of peer pressure and swimming pools it will be a good album. Just pre-ordered on itunes anyway.

mufcboy1999

Great album. Anyone who feels let down must have just expected far too much as that is as solid an album as you will come across these days.

can you blame people though? number 1 section 80 is a project worthy of marking a new era/sound in hip hop... it made people really take notice of lamar and black hippy, it set the bar anything below it is going to be looked at as a failure... victim of his own mixtape success just like cole. This is what happens when artists give away album material deemed as mixtapes.

number 2, lamar himself said it was going to be the best hip hop album the past 20 years, now well wheter thats hype/promotion or not, its a hell of a thing to say... its not even album of the year infact it isnt even album of the month and thats being honest and this is coming from a huge fan who's being listining to his music since the kendrick lamar EP a few years ago.

Mr. Rager

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

can you blame people though? number 1 section 80 is a project worthy of marking a new era/sound in hip hop... it made people really take notice of lamar and black hippy, it set the bar anything below it is going to be looked at as a failure... victim of his own mixtape success just like cole. This is what happens when artists give away album material deemed as mixtapes.

number 2, lamar himself said it was going to be the best hip hop album the past 20 years, now well wheter thats hype/promotion or not, its a hell of a thing to say... its not even album of the year infact it isnt even album of the month and thats being honest and this is coming from a huge fan who's being listining to his music since the kendrick lamar EP a few years ago.

You are overreacting. Like, really overreacting.

mufcboy1999

Mr. Rager wrote: »

You are overreacting. Like, really overreacting.

how? im not saying its a bad album but at the same time it isnt anything special by any means at all. They'll be a few arguing different, i guess thats each to their own but nobody can turn around and say this is anywhere near section 80 and mean it.

ye there's bangers on it but im sorry if your going to give us a 12 cut album and call it the best album in 20 years you'd want to bringing a lot more to the table. Everything from production to lryics have taken a hit so obvious to anyone who's followed lamar from the start or even just gave section 80 a few rotations.

xzibits napalm album is actually better than this imo.

horsebox09

Kendrick seriously upped his hook game on here, his rapping on beat has improved as-well

I'm loving the story throughout the album, really makes you feel like your in a day in the life of a dude from Compton, especially with the skits

Orizio

Kendrick is four from four at this stage. Basically GKMC, the Kendrick Lamar EP and Section 80 are 9/10 LPs and OD is 8/10. Impressive consistency.

Orizio

Mr. Rager wrote: »

You are overreacting. Like, really overreacting.

Indeed. From what I've read on forums over the last few days the consensus is that this is the best LP this year along with LIG and maybe F&L2, and that this is on par with S80. I can imagine this being the most critically acclaimed Hip-Hop album of the year as well, reviewers are going to love it.

jonneymendoza

Mr. Rager wrote: »

You are overreacting. Like, really overreacting.

Which is better? Nas's album or Kendricks?

Mr. Rager

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Which is better? Nas's album or Kendricks?

Have you listened to both? What's your opinion?

Mine is that Kendrick's is better.

mufcboy1999

Orizio wrote: »

Indeed. From what I've read on forums over the last few days the consensus is that this is the best LP this year along with LIG and maybe F&L2, and that this is on par with S80. I can imagine this being the most critically acclaimed Hip-Hop album of the year as well, reviewers are going to love it.

Look who's going by the forums now ! ... The same forums call officer ricky Ross the best rapper alive , get real for once would you.

Ofcourse it's going to get the plaudits , it doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. it's a good album but the ratings will mainly stem from the bandwagon, it's no where near a classic or for that matter even a great album.

If you really think this is on par with section 80 your away with the clouds or just straight up lying jumping on the bandwagon.

Bobby Baccala

jonneymendoza wrote: »

Which is better? Nas's album or Kendricks?

Again with the Nas comparisons? jesus christ....

Mikeyt086

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Look who's going by the forums now ! ... The same forums call officer ricky Ross the best rapper alive , get real for once would you.

Ofcourse it's going to get the plaudits , it doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. it's a good album but the ratings will mainly stem from the bandwagon, it's no where near a classic or for that matter even a great album.

If you really think this is on par with section 80 your away with the clouds or just straight up lying jumping on the bandwagon.

The same bandwagon that you were a part of until last week when you read someone say the album wouldn't be good and now Kendrick isn't cool anymore?

Honestly mate up until last week you bigging Lamar up like he was the best rapper out, then it's like you flipped a switch and now he ain't all that and your mocking people who think he is.

It's weird.

Da Shins Kelly

It's better than Nas' album.

Talib Fiasco

Decent album, will grow more on me...3.5/5 atm. Nowhere near my top 5 of the year so far though.

Orizio

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Look who's going by the forums now ! ... The same forums call officer ricky Ross the best rapper alive , get real for once would you.

Ofcourse it's going to get the plaudits , it doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. it's a good album but the ratings will mainly stem from the bandwagon, it's no where near a classic or for that matter even a great album.

If you really think this is on par with section 80 your away with the clouds or just straight up lying jumping on the bandwagon.

Please go back to ignoring me - thank you.

Boom_Bap

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

Look who's going by the forums now ! ... The same forums call officer ricky Ross the best rapper alive , get real for once would you.

Ofcourse it's going to get the plaudits , it doesnt take a genius to figure that one out. it's a good album but the ratings will mainly stem from the bandwagon, it's no where near a classic or for that matter even a great album.

If you really think this is on par with section 80 your away with the clouds or just straight up lying jumping on the bandwagon.

Orizio wrote: »

Please go back to ignoring me - thank you.

This is getting a little silly now....and a bit personal as well. Please keep the discussion civil.

mufcboy1999

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

The same bandwagon that you were a part of until last week when you read someone say the album wouldn't be good and now Kendrick isn't cool anymore?

Honestly mate up until last week you bigging Lamar up like he was the best rapper out, then it's like you flipped a switch and now he ain't all that and your mocking people who think he is.

It's weird.

where did i say lamar wasnt cool anymore? where did i say he wasnt the best rapper out right now? where did i say anything other than the fact this album isnt what it should of been...

dont get all butt hurt about my opinion on the album, im arguably one of his bigger fans on the forum. Im not judging his career by this album because in truth thats what your trying to make it look like, Iv followed him for years, praised him for years and now i come out with my first bit of negative feedback and im getting made out like a hater of some kind.

do me a favor :rolleyes:

jonneymendoza

P4DDY2K11 wrote: »

Again with the Nas comparisons? jesus christ....

answer teh question

Orizio

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

The same bandwagon that you were a part of until last week when you read someone say the album wouldn't be good and now Kendrick isn't cool anymore?

Honestly mate up until last week you bigging Lamar up like he was the best rapper out, then it's like you flipped a switch and now he ain't all that and your mocking people who think he is.

It's weird.

Unfortunately this is what happens when people make ridiculous judgments on a album that they haven't even heard, pride dictates that even when they are proven incorrect they have to follow on with their nonsense.

mufcboy1999

Orizio wrote: »

Unfortunately this is what happens when people make ridiculous judgments on a album that they haven't even heard, pride dictates that even when they are proven incorrect they have to follow on with their nonsense.

Someone please tell me this fella isn't serious, is he even aware the album was leaked?

Orzio seems to be the one who hasnt listened to the album but has somehow managed to gather an opinion about it from a blog site .

Mikeyt086

mufcboy1999 wrote: »

where did i say lamar wasnt cool anymore? where did i say he wasnt the best rapper out right now? where did i say anything other than the fact this album isnt what it should of been...

dont get all butt hurt about my opinion on the album, im arguably one of his bigger fans on the forum. Im not judging his career by this album because in truth thats what your trying to make it look like, Iv followed him for years, praised him for years and now i come out with my first bit of negative feedback and im getting made out like a hater of some kind.

do me a favor :rolleyes:

You didn't say those things but you implied them. Saying the album will do well no matter what it's like because of the Kendrick Lamar bandwagon is a ridiculous thing to say for a huge fan of his, like you are.

And don't go using workaholics quotes on me, I'm not butthurt at all, just pointing out the attitude you've had since last week has been really loose butthole.

mufcboy1999

Mikeyt086 wrote: »

You didn't say those things but you implied them. Saying the album will do well no matter what it's like because of the Kendrick Lamar bandwagon is a ridiculous thing to say for a huge fan of his, like you are.

And don't go using workaholics quotes on me, I'm not butthurt at all, just pointing out the attitude you've had since last week has been really loose butthole.

No I never implied any of them , your putting words in my mouth by simply trying to back up orzio who clearly doesn't have a clue the album even leaked hence me being able to form an opinion over it.

Orzio is a bitter and ignorant poster who comes on from time to time trying to lay his opinion down like its law forgetting he's not a mod anymore so there's no point in fighting his losing battle.

As sad as it sounds ,In truth you were upset about my FIFA comments a few weeks ago and since have tried to get my attention on more than one occasion, the fact you have to resort to making stuff up is desperate.

For the record Not once did i ever imply KL wasn't cool anymore or wasn't the best rapper out right now! Pure lies and you know it just to make yourself look like you know what your talking about.

My bandwagon opinion is a valid one and his popularity will influence the rating of this album. J Coles debut was number 1 on the charts and deemed a classic amongst many blogs and sites receiving great ratings and the truth is it wasn't a great album. Lamars situation is identical but his album is a little better but it's still not anything amazing like section 80 was, that's all I ever said. Oh and yes I did say xzibits album was better because it actually is, that's not hating its called an opinion.

horsebox09

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Big40Bu2teg

mufcboy1999

That's a nice track, had it on replay last night.