Your unpopular movie opinions

johnny_ultimate

OutlawPete wrote: »

The most overrated film of all time.

There is certainly an argument for your other points, but I've always felt that the influence Citizen Kane had on cinematic storytelling - editing, narrative structure, cinematography etc... - means if anything it's underrated :pac: Its importance really cannot be overstated, although yeah it's certainly up to every individual to decide whether they actually enjoy it. Loved it myself though!

Some other ones I'll throw into the ring:

Sofia Coppolla > Francis Ford, or at least a director whose style engages me more than her fathers.

Little Children is American Beauty with more bite.

irishh_bob

s.welstead wrote: »

Inglorious Basterds was just jewish porn movie. Absolutely terrible movie with such a horrible message.

Agree with earlier posters. Nemo was boring as f*ck, all other Pixar are brilliant, I'll ignore Cars. It doesn't exist.

2 of the best movies of all time are 10 things I hate about you and Star Trek Generations.

what horrible message was there in inglorious bastards that wasnt in kill bill or resorvior dogs ?

Howard the Duck

I think Robin Williams is a great actor, I can't think of a movie i haven't liked him in.

Also i liked T3.

Mr. Boo

e_e wrote: »

1999 was a great year for movies, but American Beauty and Fight Club aren't even close to the best.

Ghost Dog, Julien-Donkey Boy, Magnolia, The Straight Story, Office Space and Audition were all massively superior imho.

I love all of Korine's movies.

Fight club was also great the first time I saw it. But I was 17-18 and didn't know the plot. It does not affect me the same way it did, but it did leave an impression. And got me reading Pahlaniuk's stuff.

Duffy the Vampire Slayer

e_e wrote: »

1999 was a great year for movies, but American Beauty and Fight Club aren't even close to the best.

Ghost Dog, Julien-Donkey Boy, Magnolia, The Straight Story, Office Space and Audition were all massively superior imho.

I hated Ghost Dog. It was a film that didn't seem to know what it was trying to be. I'm not a Magnolia fan either.

Aidric

Fozzydog3 wrote: »

Heath Ledger is the most over-rated thing ever

Brokeback Mountain is 2 hours of awkward silence and men awkwardly looking at each other

Sorry, I know this is an unpopular opinions thread an all but I can't let this go unchallenged.

Ledger's performance in Brokeback Mountain stands up there as one of the all time great screen performances, imo at least.

The Mad Hatter

I think I enjoyed the fourth Indiana Jones film more than the second. It didn't have the highs of the mine cart chase, but it also didn't have the lows of everything that came before the mine cart chase.

krudler

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

I think I enjoyed the fourth Indiana Jones film more than the second. It didn't have the highs of the mine cart chase, but it also didn't have the lows of everything that came before the mine cart chase.

Whaaa?



Temple of Doom is awesome, the first 20 minutes are just a relentless pace, you have a Busby Berkely style musical number, Indy dressed like James Bond, a shootout set during another musical number, a car chase, a plane crash, and a dinghy ride down a mountain before the movie is a half hour into it.

Theres one part of Crystal Skull I really like, and its when Jim Broadbents character is talking to Indy at home and he's talking about how "life stops giving you things and starts taking them away" and theres a shot of Indy just staring at a photo of his dad with the theme from Last Crusade playing, its one of the times he seems the most vunerable and its not because hes in physical trouble.

*not to self, watch first three movies this weekend*

dark crystal

Most people bemoan the fact that Ordinary People won the Best Picture Oscar over Raging Bull, but I preferred the former.

Raging Bull left me feeling rather cold, but I loved Ordinary People. A touching and complex film that contained some pretty spectacular acting from, in particular, Timothy Hutton and Mary Tyler Moore. I love this film.

The Mad Hatter

krudler wrote: »

Whaaa?



Temple of Doom is awesome, the first 20 minutes are just a relentless pace, you have a Busby Berkely style musical number, Indy dressed like James Bond, a shootout set during another musical number, a car chase, a plane crash, and a dinghy ride down a mountain before the movie is a half hour into it.

Theres one part of Crystal Skull I really like, and its when Jim Broadbents character is talking to Indy at home and he's talking about how "life stops giving you things and starts taking them away" and theres a shot of Indy just staring at a photo of his dad with the theme from Last Crusade playing, its one of the times he seems the most vunerable and its not because hes in physical trouble.

*not to self, watch first three movies this weekend*

Ok, I'll give you the first twenty minutes of Temple of Doom as well (though it wasn't as good as anything in the first or third films), but even with that and the last half hour, that's less than half the film. In between there's bad jokes, annoying kid, more annoying woman, and exposition, exposition, exposition. Crystal Skulls wasn't a great effort either, but it maintained (I thought) a bearable mediocrity throughout.

I actually just watched the original trilogy over the last couple of days - I realised to my astonishment that I'd never seen any of them all the way through - and I really loved the first and third.

OutlawPete

dark crystal wrote: »

Most people bemoan the fact that Ordinary People won the Best Picture Oscar over Raging Bull, but I preferred the former.

Raging Bull left me feeling rather cold, but I loved Ordinary People. A touching and complex film that contained some pretty spectacular acting from, in particular, Timothy Hutton and Mary Tyler Moore. I love this film.

You know what bugged me about Raging Bull?

The chick who played Vickie couldn't act worth a toss and her voice went through me. She shrieks in the movie a lot also, totally cast for her looks and looks alone.

Mickeroo

e_e wrote: »

1999 was a great year for movies, but American Beauty and Fight Club aren't even close to the best.

Ghost Dog, Julien-Donkey Boy, Magnolia, The Straight Story, Office Space and Audition were all massively superior imho.

And Three Kings don't forget, bloody brilliant film!

Ridley

krudler wrote: »

*not to self, watch first three movies this weekend*

Have you ever dabbled in Young Indiana Jones? There's a lot of cheese but most of the World War I stories and the episode/TV movie showing the falling out of the Joneses are worth a look if you don't mind that they're not adventure serials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rEKnKvCKlE

pickarooney

Tipsy McSwagger wrote:

Daniel Day Lewis is one of the top 5 greatest actors of all time. The man is to acting what Ayrton Senna was to F1. Watching him in TWBB was seeing an actor at the very top of his game. The only actor who can touch him at the moment is Philip Seymour Hoffman.

It's far easier to shout and gesticulate and pull faces and talk in a crazy accent than it is to act emotions like pride, resentment and insecurity. Philip Seymour Hoffman is a much more accomplished actor than Daniel Day Lewis.

Also, Jennifer Lopez is a pretty good actress.

pixelburp

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

I think I enjoyed the fourth Indiana Jones film more than the second. It didn't have the highs of the mine cart chase, but it also didn't have the lows of everything that came before the mine cart chase.

I enjoyed "Crystal Skull", and like the bizarre levels of bile aimed at Tom Cruise, there was a ridiculous hate campaign - bordering on the rabid - aimed at Crystal Skull when it came out. It was hilarious to kick the movie when it was down, it didn't matter whether you'd actually seen it or not. People just joined in the fun of making comments about "nuking the fridge" while ignoring that the whole sequence leading up to that was great fun. Maybe it was just the combination of combining two targets of nerd-rage (George Lucas & Shia LeBeouf) with the affront of touching a cherished childhood franchise

Needless to say, the movie isn't half as bad as some people (step forward South Park) would have you believe. The worst I can say is that it's very mediocre at times; most certainly. The last third of the movie showed a dip in quality (and NOT because of aliens appearing thankyouverymuch), where it seemed like the movie was in a hurry to finish, but up until that point it was an enjoyable, old-fashioned adventure / chase movie. The dialogue was witty & sharp in places, with some poignant moments when Indy confronts his age.

As mentioned, Temple of Doom deserves a kicking just for the inclusion of Kate Capshaw's character & Shortround; Crystal Skull's CGI gophers don't come anywhere close in terms of annoyance.

Tipsy McSwagger

Howard the Duck wrote: »

I think Robin Williams is a great actor, I can't think of a movie i haven't liked him in.

Also i liked T3.

Patch Adams:)

Magic Eight Ball

The Coen brothers are all style and no substance!

bnt

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

The Coen brothers are all style and no substance!

Is that your actual opinion, or are you just trying to get a reaction? It would help if you explained what you meant by that, with examples.

Magic Eight Ball

bnt wrote: »

Is that your actual opinion

Yes

bnt wrote: »

are you just trying to get a reaction?

See title of thread. :rolleyes:

bnt wrote: »

It would help if you explained what you meant by that, with examples.

No.

Sad Professor

It really depends how you define style and substance. I don't think the Coens lack for either.

Marty McFly

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

The Coen brothers are all style and no substance!

+1 on that, now I havent seen all Coen Brothers films and of the ones ive seen Millers Crossing and Raising Arizona are the only ones ive liked but that was there early work there style has changed a lot since then.


As for Big Lebowski, Burn After Reading, No Country For Old Men all rubbish if you ask me I just get the feeling there trying to hard to be cool, trendy and different. There films are all style and not much more.

Mickeroo

Magic Eight Ball wrote: »

No.

Aw go on. Isn't part of the fun of a thread like this the actual discussions you can spark up?

Ironman76

No Retreat No Surrender is one of my all time favorite movies. Seen it about 20 times and never get tired of it. Other fav movies of mine would be The Godfather, Godfather 2, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Jaws (proving I have some sanity when it comes to movies).

The plot is bizzare (Bruce Lees ghost shows up and theres a kid that thinks hes Micheal Jackson), nobody in the movie can act to save their lives and the cinematography is dire.

But I love it. Im pretty sure there must be a scientific term for this.

Mister Jingles

Ironman76 wrote: »

No Retreat No Surrender is one of my all time favorite movies. Seen it about 20 times and never get tired of it. Other fav movies of mine would be The Godfather, Godfather 2, Raging Bull, Taxi Driver and Jaws (proving I have some sanity when it comes to movies).

The plot is bizzare (Bruce Lees ghost shows up and theres a kid that thinks hes Micheal Jackson), nobody in the movie can act to save their lives and the cinematography is dire.

But I love it. Im pretty sure there must be a scientific term for this.

Saw that for the first time last week, wasn't the best biopic ever but De Niro delivered his best as usual, couldn't believe that he put on all that weight just for the last 20-25 mins of the film and of course I can't forget motor mouth himself Joe Pesci who had me in stitches as always. :pac:

Howard the Duck

Howard the Duck wrote: »

I think Robin Williams is a great actor, I can't think of a movie i haven't liked him in.

Also i liked T3.

Tipsy McSwagger wrote: »

Patch Adams:)

Nope i even liked that! And films that got terrible reviews like Toys and Jack, Always think he is very good in every film he's in.

Fozzydog3

Helena Bonham Carter isnt an actor , she does one really good impersonation and rolls with it , she deserves to have her acting licence revoked and any future projects she has down the line should be given to the person who played angela in angelas ashes

Shane-KornSpace

Big Lebowski, Scarface and most Al Pacino movies (excluding Devil's Advocate) are completely over rated and are about as interesting as watching paint dry.

In my own opinion.

Da Shins Kelly

Another one I have that no one seems to agree with me on:

Heath Ledger, while good as The Joker, only actually won the Oscar because he died.

Handsome Bob

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

Another one I have that no one seems to agree with me on:

Heath Ledger, while good as The Joker, only actually won the Oscar because he died.

Perhaps he did, but to be honest, his competition wasn't all that great. PSH in Doubt ran him closest. That being said, I haven't seen Revolutionary Road, which apparently holds the performance that should have beaten Ledger.

Personally, I've seen all the performances bar Shannon's and Ledger's performance is the one that will stay with me. I felt that Brolin was forgettable in Milk, I actually thought that Hirsch and Franco deserved the nom a head of him. While I liked Hoffman's performance in Doubt, I was left wanting more from the character, if the story allowed it then Hoffman could have done so much more. RDJ was hilarious in Tropic Thunder but worthy of an Oscar nom? Really?

Finally, regardless of the merit of his win for TDK, I'm really glad that Ledger won, because I really felt that he deserved one for Brokeback Mountain.

Da Shins Kelly

LZ5by5 wrote: »

Perhaps he did, but to be honest, his competition wasn't all that great. PSH in Doubt ran him closest. That being said, I haven't seen Revolutionary Road, which apparently holds the performance that should have beaten Ledger.

Personally, I've seen all the performances bar Shannon's and Ledger's performance is the one that will stay with me. I felt that Brolin was forgettable in Milk, I actually thought that Hirsch and Franco deserved the nom a head of him. While I liked Hoffman's performance in Doubt, I was left wanting more from the character, if the story allowed it then Hoffman could have done so much more. RDJ was hilarious in Tropic Thunder but worthy of an Oscar nom? Really?

Finally, regardless of the merit of his win for TDK, I'm really glad that Ledger won, because I really felt that he deserved one for Brokeback Mountain.

I agree that the quality that year wasn't great, but I think he would have won regardless. They could have put him up against the greatest actors who have ever lived, and I still think they would have given it to him. The outpouring of emotion after he died was pretty overwhelming. I reckon the Academy almost felt they had to give it to him, or it would have been regarded as an insult to his memory.

Having said that, I do not think that he was a bad actor. I agree that he was amazing in Brokeback Mountain. I think it's interesting you think he was robbed though, considering it was Philip Seymour Hoffman who won that year for his portrayal of Capote, and most probably think he deserved it (I don't know myself, it's so hard to choose between two great performances). Joaquin Phoenix was also nominated that year, and I actually think he was robbed the year he was nominated for Gladiator, and Benicio del Toro won instead. That may be a bit unpopular too, I know a lot of peeps love Benicio (not that I don't, just like Joaquin Phoenix more)!

foxyboxer

The Two Towers is the best segment of the Lord of the Rings trilogy :cool:

nyarlothothep

Matrix 2 and 3 are quite good
Christopher Nolan sucks, he makes montage based films with an overuse of orchestral music and repeats the same theme over and over again through the dialogue.
Your Highness is an awesome film (and I still don't understand why it isn't more popular).
Scott Pilgrim is hipster trash and deserved to fail at the box office, repetitive, boring and full of hipsters.
Al Pacino is not the greatest actor of all time, he's good but not the greatest and the only roles he can play are cops, criminals and lawyers.
Coen Bro films are bit boring and too "worthy."
Akira is a load of sh1t, dumb plot concerning a suitably epic creation of the universe narrative and people yelling Akira and Tetsuo over and over again
Nicholas Cage is a good actor
Tron Legacy was a good film

Sad Professor

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Christopher Nolan sucks, he makes montage based films with an overuse of orchestral music and repeats the same theme over and over again through the dialogue.

I like Nolan, but that's a pretty accurate summary of his style of filmmaking alright.

Superbus

nyarlothothep wrote: »

Scott Pilgrim is hipster trash and deserved to fail at the box office, repetitive, boring and full of hipsters.

I totally agree, I saw it twice; at the cinema with one friend, I genuinely enjoyed it, but a few months later another friend had gotten it on Blu-ray and invited a load of people (many, I suppose, one could class as 'hipsters') to watch it -then I found it to be, as you say, hipster trash.

Faith+1

Shane-KornSpace wrote: »

Big Lebowski, Scarface and most Al Pacino movies (excluding Devil's Advocate) are completely over rated and are about as interesting as watching paint dry.

In my own opinion.

Sinner!!!

The Mad Hatter

Faith+1 wrote: »

Sinner!!!

It's just, like, his opinion, man.

prospect

I love Phenomenon, watched it more than once, and I'm a bloke!?!

DrumSteve

Independence Day is one of the Greatest movies ever commited to celluloid.

Sean Bean is a great actor.

Chris Rock is not funny.

Rom-Coms in general are complete crap.

Real stunts are much better than CGI. And always will be.

KungPao

The Terminator is better than Terminator 2.

Ralph Bates was the best Baron Victor von Frankenstein.

I struggle to get into WWII movies made by Jewish people and/or Americans.

pixelburp

DrumSteve wrote: »

Sean Bean is a great actor.

Don't think that's an unpopular opinion though? I would have presumed most people have a lot of time for Sean Bean...

Faith+1

The Mad Hatter wrote: »

It's just, like, his opinion, man.

I know but I almost spilt my bererage when I read it.

jaykhunter

pixelburp wrote: »

Don't think that's an unpopular opinion though? I would have presumed most people have a lot of time for Sean Bean...

Really? I can't stand him. He's in everything and I don't appreciate it.

Faith+1

jaykhunter wrote: »

Really? I can't stand him. He's in everything and I don't appreciate it.

He's not in "The Field" oh wait he is. I stand corrected, he is in everything.

MagicMarker

pixelburp wrote: »

Don't think that's an unpopular opinion though? I would have presumed most people have a lot of time for Sean Bean...

Most of what's been posted in this thread is not an unpopular opinion tbh.

Da Shins Kelly

foxyboxer wrote: »

The Two Towers is the best segment of the Lord of the Rings trilogy :cool:

This is hardly an unpopular opinion, is it?

jaykhunter

Is the general consensus that ROTK is the best of the three? I switch between the first two but i think my favourite is 1. Difficult because i have my qualms with every film....but I do love Helm's Deep.

According to this boards thread, out of 50 voters it goes 3 > 1 > 2. But i'd love to know what the general consensus on boards is (well a few hundred voters)

As far as I'm concerned Miami Vice is not only Michael Mann's best film but it is also one of the finest films ever made. I also believe that the TV show is one of the all time greats and was far darker and more adult than most give it credit for.

pixelburp

jaykhunter wrote: »

Really? I can't stand him. He's in everything and I don't appreciate it.

How come? He's a bit of a jobbing actor allright, tends to pop up a lot in support roles, but I figured he was well respected (if not a bit typecast in places). I take it you didn't watch / enjoy Game of Thrones then?

johnny_ultimate

jaykhunter wrote: »

Is the general consensus that ROTK is the best of the three? I switch between the first two but i think my favourite is 1. Difficult because i have my qualms with every film....but I do love Helm's Deep.

I always thought it was widely accepted as the weakest of the three? Not that it's bad, but there's certainly more fluff and repetition than the other films.

rockmongrel

Die Hard is awful, just awful.