Scorned girlfriend threatens to kill boyfriend - here's how it's reported

speedboatchase

So a cheating boyfriend in the US was invited over to his girlfriend's place under false pretences (to do 'something kinky', hence he agreed to be tied up) and was beaten, knifed, hit with the butt of a shotgun and was told he would be 'gutted like a deer'. Here's how it has been reported, by a guy surprisingly:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/informer/2011/06/girlfriend_kidnap_handcuffs.php

It was every man's fantasy: His girlfriend called and wanted to have kinky sex. She slipped the handcuffs on him, but before it was over, she had allegedly cut him with a knife, hit him with the barrel of a shotgun, punched him, and dripped hot candle wax on him (well, that last part might not be so bad -- if you're Bernie Ecclestone).

The Central Valley suspect, 33-year old Sabrina Renee Robinson, believed he was cheating on her. She ended up behind bars, where she remained today, says Erica Stuart, spokeswoman for the Fresno-adjacent Madera County Sheriff's Department.

The interesting thing is ...

... he was cheating on her, Stuart says.

The 42-year-old victim, who was not identified because he is, well, the victim, had two girlfriends, and the suspect only recently found out, she told the Weekly.

Now, we know all you females out there are muttering to yourselves, Damn snappy, girlfriend -- I would have done the same thing.

You psycho bitches. (We kid). Please consider the following: Robison is being held without bail today and faces possible charges of "making terrorist threats, 2 counts of assault with a deadly weapon, false imprisonment, corporal injury," according to a sheriff's statement.

She also had a warrant out of San Luis Obispo County that was based on a contributing to the delinquency of a minor conviction, Stuart said. She apparently failed to start her community service on that one.

The ordeal for Romeo started on the night of June 15, when Robison allegedly called promising some freakiness, Stuart said. He picked her up in the Fresno area and brought her back to his place on John Albert Drive in Madera, California.

They talked for hours, Stuart said, and eventually she got him in cuffs (leg restraints were also seized), Stuart said. That's when the alleged torture over the other woman began, and it was ongoing until the wee hours of the next morning.

At 3 a.m. said other woman got a call from the suspect, Stuart said. The other lady figured something was off because she could hear her co-boyfriend yelling for help. She called authorities, but they couldn't figure out where the duo was at first.

The ended up at his home at 4 a.m., Stuart said, and Robinson was arrested without incident.

Although he suffered some cuts, bruises and hot wax stains, the man refused medical treatment, she said.

"The bottom line is she was pretty upset when she found out about the other girlfriend," Stuart told us. "She felt scorned."

And he felt scorched, apparently.

And guys, as if Seinfeld didn't already teach you this, beware of chicks with handcuffs.[/B

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The Daily Mail also has a line about how he escaped and was found 'cowering' in the bushes outside. The two most 'liked' comments on the piece above are as follows:

'man whore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned!!!!!!!!!!!! '

'Angelica [Moderator] 1 day ago
Let this be a lesson to all cheaters. ; )'


Again, this is typical of the idea that torture and/or mutiliation of a man is still something to be made light. I left a comment that asked 'I wonder would the writer take the some light approach to this story if the genders were reversed?' but it really is unfortunate to see.

A lot of women's magazines still have no issue posting disgusting stories from betrayed women that mutilated their ex-partners genitals, while let's not forget that John Wayne Bobbit went on Oprah two years ago with ex-wife that cut off his penis and apologised for how he treated her during their marraige. Lorena had appeared to cheers on an appearence on the show in the mid 1990s.

Will this double standard ever go away?

MitchKoobski

Fúck everything about this

Dravokivich

It's often been said, "try not to reason with stupidity, they'd beat you down with experience."

My sympathies to that bloke. Yer one was a bleeding nutcase.

Overall in regards to that article, it looks like an American Blog as oppsoed to a newspaper report that it's published on? I wouldn't pay any attention to the guy that wrote it, he's looking to be a shock/humour journalist and is seeking attention with it.

Count Duckula

Of course it won't. Men understand violence and only violence, apparently. If a woman feels scorned / hurt / betrayed, it is perfectly alright for her to violently and dangerously attack a man, and it's fine because he's a man.

A more down-to-Earth example would be soap operas, where the female characters will frequently slap or hit a male character who has upset / betrayed / embarrassed her, and we are supposed to nod and think "yes, he deserved that". And yet in the very rare occasions they show a man hitting or slapping a woman he is portrayed as a monster, who always inevitably gets his comeuppance (usually by being punched or beaten as revenge later on).

Wolfe Tone

What a b!tch.

If the roles where reversed the man would be portrayed as the devil himself.

Its a double standard, and n unfair one which will not go away unless men are prepared to stand up and fight back at the blatant mistreatment, unfair portrayals, by terminally insecure women, those who revel in victim-hood to the degree that women in cases such as this are portrayed as the victim, who believe that their sex can do no, or very little wrong.

spider guardian

Idiotic reporting of the incident, but reasonable people will know that the poor guy involved went through a horrific ordeal.

Let this be a lesson to guys who like to engage in kinky sex - wear a wristband with a piece of wire inside and learn how to pick a lock. It is always good to have a means of escape if things go south.

goose2005

Any act by a "scorned" woman is viewed as hilarious and justified, whether it's vandalising his car, destroying his clothes, etc. right up to rape or mutilation. Saturday Night Live did a "comic" sketch about Elin attacking Tiger with a golf club (they didn't do the same with Chris Brown...) There is something disturbing about the glee reporters take with cheated-woman stories.

After the Jacqui smith thin, a friend said "To say she's angry with her husband is an understatement. Jacqui was not there when these films were watched. She's furious and mortified." and she said “He’s sleeping on the sofa”. There just seemed an expectation that he deserved to be punished and that it was demanded that she attack him in public.

tbh

silly post removed, plus a post that quoted it (only because it was a reply to a deleted post). This isn't a banter thread.

Ficheall

The poor reporting should be no surprise, given the source. I don't think people should feel sorry for this bloke though - I'd be of the opinion that he deserved what he got.
If a woman cheated and were treated by her other half as this man was, then no doubt she would be portrayed as the victim, and her cheating would be dubbed "understandable".
But this story, taken on its own, does not seem unreasonable to me...

Count Duckula

You think that, regardless of the gender of the partners, you think being beaten and tortured is a reasonable response to infidelity?

Madness.

Wolfe Tone

Ficheall wrote: »

The poor reporting should be no surprise, given the source. I don't think people should feel sorry for this bloke though - I'd be of the opinion that he deserved what he got.
If a woman cheated and were treated by her other half as this man was, then no doubt she would be portrayed as the victim, and her cheating would be dubbed "understandable".
But this story, taken on its own, does not seem unreasonable to me...

Deserved what he got? He did in his hole.

I hope he sues her for very penny she has.

KTRIC

speedboatchase wrote: »

No, he was psychologically and physically tortured.

Sounds like a night in with my ex :rolleyes:

Ficheall

Count Duckula wrote: »

You think that, regardless of the gender of the partners, you think being beaten and tortured is a reasonable response to infidelity?

Madness.

You think it's okay to be unfaithful to one's partner?

MitchKoobski

Ficheall wrote: »

You think it's okay to be unfaithful to one's partner?

You think it's okay to be tied up, held against your will, assaulted, cut and tortured?

Feck right off.

Count Duckula

Ficheall wrote: »

You think it's okay to be unfaithful to one's partner?

I don't recall suggesting that I did, but I could be wrong.

Morgase

Ficheall wrote: »

You think it's okay to be unfaithful to one's partner?

What that woman did is nowhere close to a reasonable response to the man's cheating.

The_Morrigan

Interesting story....

First off I don't agree with the violence, but I can understand her need for revenge/release of anger towards him/closure etc.

I was in a similar position myself last year, where my bf of a year had another gf of about 18 months. When I found out I was devasted and I went through the mental anger of wanting to torture him within an inch of his life. However, I do have restraint and morals (luckily for him )

I did however make sure he knew how angry/upset/betrayed/used/let down I felt. He arrived over to my house one evening to find both his gf's there and there was plenty of shouting from us as we all got the experience out of our systems.

What struck me about my experience was that he was genuinely scared that we would physically assault him - which was madness, as neither of us were of a violent nature.

But this story and the reactions of some of the posters now makes me think the men who do wrong almost expect their scorned women to react in a physically violent way.

Ficheall

Count Duckula wrote: »

I don't recall suggesting that I did, but I could be wrong.

You didn't, no - but what do you think is a reasonable "response" to infidelity?

um7y1h83ge06nx

Cheating = immoral, not nice, not socially acceptable

Imprisonment and torture = illegal

Not defending cheating but there is a huge gulf between the two above.

speedboatchase

The_Morrigan wrote: »

But this story and the reactions of some of the posters now makes me think the men who do wrong almost expect their scorned women to react in a physically violent way.

That's because the double standard we're addressing is that society has taught women that's perfectly fine to assault their partner. If anything, the women is sometimes seen as weak for not reacting in a violent way and the man is weak for taking offence to be assaulted when he is in the wrong. Personally, if my gf punched me in the face then I would dump her on the spot, yet a lot of men and women would think that that would be an overreaction on my behalf, yet not if the roles were reversed and I hit her.

It's not surprising that men expect women to react in a physically violent way because it's tolerated, encouraged and in some cases, worthy of satire/comedic potential.

The_Morrigan

speedboatchase wrote: »

That's because the double standard we're addressing is that society has taught women that's perfectly fine to assault their partner. If anything, the women is sometimes seen as weak for not reacting in a violent way and the man is weak for taking offence to be assaulted when he is in the wrong. Personally, if my gf punched me in the face then I would dump her on the spot.

It's not surprising that men expect women to react in a physically violent way because it's tolerated, encouraged and in some cases, worthy of satire/comedic potential.

But I didn't think it was perfectly fine to assault my ex despite him doing the exact same thing to me, but you're saying that by the acceptance of both sexes of this very strange social convention I would be well within my rights to do so!

It's all a bit mad to me!

Mind you it would help greatly if the human race would stop being complete a$$holes towards each other :rolleyes:

Morgase

Ficheall wrote: »

You didn't, no - but what do you think is a reasonable "response" to infidelity?

I'd probably roar at him and tell him to get out.

What I wouldn't do is slap him and I certainly wouldn't be a vile, devious thing tricking him into handcuffs in order to abuse him.

um7y1h83ge06nx

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Mind you it would help greatly if the human race would stop being complete a$$holes towards each other :rolleyes:

Amen.

markc1184

The part about the candle wax and Bernie Ecclestone - was it not Max Moseley that that story broke about?

Ficheall

I'm sure my attitude will change when I've "grown up" and possibly cheated on some lass, maybe not just an "accidental" one-night stand but a long-running thing, and feel the need to console myself that it's not really that big a deal, and sure everyone's doing it - but I'm not prepared to condone it yet. At the moment I think I'd feel more hard done by if someone I were madly in love with were cheating on me, than if they physically abused me in retaliation for cheating on them.

The_Morrigan

Ficheall wrote: »

I'm sure my attitude will change when I've "grown up" and possibly cheated on some lass, maybe not just an "accidental" one-night stand but a long-running thing, and feel the need to console myself that it's not really that big a deal, and sure everyone's doing it - but I'm not prepared to condone it yet. At the moment I think I'd feel more hard done by if someone I were madly in love with were cheating on me, than if they physically abused me in retaliation for cheating on them.

There is a logic to this to be fair - bruises and cuts tend to heal, the aftermath of emotional abuse often doesn't disappear and will haunt a person who has been treated badly by someone.

Davei141

The_Morrigan wrote: »

There is a logic to this to be fair - bruises and cuts tend to heal, the aftermath of emotional abuse often doesn't disappear and will haunt a person who has been treated badly by someone.

Eh i think being tied up, tortured and threatened with being killed leaves emotional scars too.

@Ficheall

If your GF was caught cheating on you would you give her a kicking? After all she would deserve it apparently.

A few angry slaps from the woman scorned in the heat of the moment i can understand, but the premeditated act of subduing and torture? That's a warped mind at work.

The_Morrigan

Davei141 wrote: »

Eh i think being tied up, tortured and threatened with being killed leaves emotional scars too.

@Ficheall

If your GF was caught cheating on you would you give her a kicking? After all she would deserve it apparently.

A few angry slaps from the woman scorned in the heat of the moment i can understand, but the premeditated act of subduing and torture? That's a warped mind at work.

I said cuts & bruises - I didn't mention extreme torture or abuse.

Also, there are plenty guys out there who do give their gf's a kicking over the most mundane and stupid things. And it works both ways, there are plenty of guys who are subject to abuse by their partners.

D1stant

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Also, there are plenty guys out there who do give their gf's a kicking over the most mundane and stupid things. QUOTE]

I dont believe people should get kickings over mundane things....

The_Morrigan

D1stant wrote: »

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Also, there are plenty guys out there who do give their gf's a kicking over the most mundane and stupid things. QUOTE]

I dont believe people should get kickings over mundane things....

Neither do I, but unfortunately it happens.

Ficheall

Davei141 wrote: »

@Ficheall
If your GF was caught cheating on you would you give her a kicking? After all she would deserve it apparently.

Nope. It's not in my nature. I'm more the 'curl into a ball and not talk to anyone' type. All I'm saying is that I could understand why the woman in the story might have reacted the way she did, or at least, insofar as I can understand how the guy in the story was such a complete prick.

speedboatchase

Ficheall wrote: »

Nope. It's not in my nature. I'm more the 'curl into a ball and not talk to anyone' type. All I'm saying is that I could understand why the woman in the story might have reacted the way she did, or at least, insofar as I can understand how the guy in the story was such a complete prick.

And if a man tied up his cheating girlfriend and tortured her - you could understand that, considering that the woman had been 'such a complete prick'?

Ficheall

No, in the same way that I'd generally have a much bigger problem with guys hitting girls than the other way around. It's probably a social conditioning thing, as has already been mentioned. I could understand the guy wanting to though, certainly.
I'm perfectly aware that's a double-standard on my part, and I acknowledge that's unfair. This prevalent double-standard, I presume, was one of the main points of the thread. And it is an interesting one.
I'm not trying to condone what the lass in question did. But I think placing the guy in this story as the "victim" unjustly relieves him of culpability.

Bipolar Joe

The crazy bint is a victim with the whole cheating thing, the man whore is a victim in torture.

I've been cheated on. I ground the chick up and fed her to her parents. Good times.

the_syco

Morgase wrote: »

What that woman did is nowhere close to a reasonable response to the man's cheating.

edit cos it was taken out of context: So if the woman had cheated, you'd be totally okay with her being tied up, beaten and tortured?

The_Morrigan wrote: »

There is a logic to this to be fair - bruises and cuts tend to heal

Being tortured for a few hours will probably leave him with massive physiological scars.

The_Morrigan

the_syco wrote: »

Being tortured for a few hours will probably leave him with massive physiological scars.

:rolleyes: The_Syco, that post is in response to Ficheall's post regarding their own personal thoughts/attitude on the scenario, not the OP - you've taken it out of context!

Pyr0

Ficheall wrote: »

I'd be of the opinion that he deserved what he got.

You can't honestly be serious.

SugarHigh

The_Morrigan wrote: »

Davei141 wrote: »

Eh i think being tied up, tortured and threatened with being killed leaves emotional scars too.

@Ficheall

If your GF was caught cheating on you would you give her a kicking? After all she would deserve it apparently.

A few angry slaps from the woman scorned in the heat of the moment i can understand, but the premeditated act of subduing and torture? That's a warped mind at work.

I said cuts & bruises - I didn't mention extreme torture or abuse.

Also, there are plenty guys out there who do give their gf's a kicking over the most mundane and stupid things. And it works both ways, there are plenty of guys who are subject to abuse by their partners.

I'd imagine that any assault that leaves cuts and bruises would do far more emotional damage than being cheated on.

The fact that some guys beat up their GF's really has nothing to do with this thread. Domestic violence against women isn't something which is seen as acceptable or something to joke about unlike when the man is the victim. That's the point of the thread.

Logical Fallacy

Pyr0 wrote: »

You can't honestly be serious.

It gets even funnier if you read the rest of his posts.

sunflower27

I can't believe anyone would be sympathetic to her.

OK, he cheated, not nice thing to do, but torture, good grief. She should be tried for the criminal she is.

Raze_them_all

Ficheall wrote: »

You think it's okay to be unfaithful to one's partner?

You're right I see the scene now.


4 of guys in a prison cell telling the new guy, one guy there for pistol whipping, another guy is there for false imprisonment, another for assault with a deadly weapon....In walks a guy, the other 3 stop talking immediatly and cower in the corner.....the new guy whispers asking what the other guy did....cue the guy in for assault with a knife whispering with a quiver in his voice that he cheated on his partner....


BTW all 3 crimes are punishible by prison time for guys if they do it to any man or woman, yet this woman did all 3 to one guy and you agree with her.


Hmmmm I'm hungry, think I'll go boil myself some bunny.


Oh and on the double standerds thing, man woman little scum 12 year old comes at me with any weapon and I have no problem whatsoever in putting them down

Logical Fallacy

Raze_them_all wrote: »

Oh and on the double standerds thing, man woman little scum 12 year old comes at me with any weapon and I have no problem whatsoever in putting them down

Justice is a dish best served from side control.

Ficheall

I never said I agreed with what she did - I said that he deserved it, and that I could understand why she might have done it. She over-reacted, yes. (And she probably is a nut-case - but that's another matter...)

Regarding your prison analogy - what sentences were meted out to these two guys who inflicted wounds not requiring medical attention under mitigating circumstances?

The greatest harm done to the "victim" was probably the psychological damage he suffered while tied to a bed - but one would suspect that he knew his "bitches be crazy", and surely he must, at some point, have contemplated that one of the two ladies who (we shall presume) loved him and who he was knowingly cheating on and deceiving (length of time not mentioned in article) might eventually find out?
And then on that fateful night, when he picked up one of his inamorata for a good boink, did he think that she knew he'd been an asshole? Not likely, if he went ahead with letting her tie him to the bed. Maybe he even felt remorseful for his actions. So they talked for a couple of hours, but it probably wasn't quite the right time to tell her that he'd been cheating on her, or even to do the "decent thing" and break up with her. He was probably writhing in mental anguish over the tough decisions he would have to make, the poor guy. Maybe he'd just wait and see how things turned out...

Raze_them_all

Ficheall wrote: »

I never said I agreed with what she did - I said that he deserved it, and that I could understand why she might have done it. She over-reacted, yes. (And she probably is a nut-case - but that's another matter...)

Regarding your prison analogy - what sentences were meted out to these two guys who inflicted wounds not requiring medical attention under mitigating circumstances?

The greatest harm done to the "victim" was probably the psychological damage he suffered while tied to a bed - but one would suspect that he knew his "bitches be crazy", and surely he must, at some point, have contemplated that one of the two ladies who (we shall presume) loved him and who he was knowingly cheating on and deceiving (length of time not mentioned in article) might eventually find out?
And then on that fateful night, when he picked up one of his inamorata for a good boink, did he think that she knew he'd been an asshole? Not likely, if he went ahead with letting her tie him to the bed. Maybe he even felt remorseful for his actions. So they talked for a couple of hours, but it probably wasn't quite the right time to tell her that he'd been cheating on her, or even to do the "decent thing" and break up with her. He was probably writhing in mental anguish over the tough decisions he would have to make, the poor guy. Maybe he'd just wait and see how things turned out...

The last person who cheated on me I went and slept with 3 of her friends. But thats me I don't see cheating as an excuse for torture

Logical Fallacy

Ficheall wrote: »

I never said I agreed with what she did

I have to say, i find it hard to draw a line between him deserving it and you not agreeing with what she did. They are, to me, counter points that have no real relation to each other in a rational mind.

Look, it's really quite simple. Matters of the heart do not and should not boil over into physical abuse. Definitely not a protracted torture session.

Don't get me wrong, when someone is 12 and they like a girl and pass her a note and the girl laughs and all her friends laugh and then the boy reacts by pushing her over in the mood i can understand such childish things.

However, the second you nuts drop your supposed to be mature enough to figure this kind of thing out.

I get it, you hate cheaters, your on a moral high horse about how horrible a betrayal of trust it is and yadda yadda yadda... but the stance that he deserved it is idiotic beyond belief.

Don't get me wrong, i hate a cheater. If any of my mates ever cheated on their girlfriends it was always stern ****ing talking to, if the girl was a mate of ours the dude was dropped from the social circle...but i have to be honest...I think your talking out of your ass. Get coherent and then come back to the thread maybe?

Ficheall

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I have to say, i find it hard to draw a line between him deserving it and you not agreeing with what she did.

Suppose one were to take some banker who had stolen money from customers etc, for example, and one said that they deserved to have all their money and earthly possessions taken away from them. One could say and believe that they deserved that, but still not agree with someone who went and took all their money and possessions from them...
I realise that's simply equating like with like, but the idea is essentially the same.

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Look, it's really quite simple. Matters of the heart do not and should not boil over into physical abuse. Definitely not a protracted torture session.

An unsubstantiated "look, it's really quite simple" doesn't lend any extra weight to your argument. I'm not saying that I don't see where you're coming from, mind. I can see why some people might feel sorry for him, and I was probably careless in an earlier post when I said that I couldn't see how they would, or whatever it was - but I, personally, do not feel any pity for him.

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

However, the second you nuts drop your supposed to be mature enough to figure this kind of thing out.

One is supposed to be mature enough for other things too. Both people in the story seem to somewhat be lacking in the maturity front.

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

I get it, you hate cheaters, your on a moral high horse about how horrible a betrayal of trust it is and yadda yadda yadda... but the stance that he deserved it is idiotic beyond belief.

I wasn't aiming to seat myself on a moral high horse, but I was surprised at how "shocked and outraged" people seem to be, as though the fact that she had been cheated on should have had no bearing on her actions.
Granted, mind, we don't know fully what her intentions were. The "protracted torture session" could simply have been to exact some revenge on the guy and scare the ****e out of him. Had she been planning to cut him into itty-bitty pieces, I would agree that she probably had more than a few screws loose, but in the end the guy didn't even need medical attention.
I don't know where along the scale between "a shout and a slap" and "cutting into itty-bitty pieces" the tipping point, for me, lies - it seems to be somewhat further along than for other posters.

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

...but i have to be honest...I think your talking out of your ass. Get coherent and then come back to the thread maybe?

How would you like me to be more coherent?
As things stand for the two - ignoring potential legal implications to be faced for the female, as they should have little bearing on the "rightness" and "wrongness" of the issue, and from the male's point ignoring the fact that one would have cheated on someone - I would sooner choose to be in the shoes of a man with a few injuries that will have mostly healed within a few weeks leaving only the difficulty of having to make up an interesting story for the new ladies as to how he'd acquired the scars, than the shoes of a woman who'd discovered that someone she (let's assume) loved had been cheating on her for however long it was.

I can, I suppose, understand if people would choose not to have been "physically tortured", but I believe the alternative position is tenable, and not "idiotic beyond belief".

Raze_them_all

Ficheall wrote: »

Suppose one were to take some banker who had stolen money from customers etc, for example, and one said that they deserved to have all their money and earthly possessions taken away from them. One could say and believe that they deserved that, but still not agree with someone who went and took all their money and possessions from them...
I realise that's simply equating like with like, but the idea is essentially the same.

are you well??? cheating does not = theft ya see there's this thing called the law, stealing is illegal, cheating is not. I kid you not. False impronment, assault with a deadly weapon are also illegal where let me point out cheating is not.

So where is the idea basically the same.


I half think you're just looking to get a rise out of posters

Galvasean

Logical Fallacy wrote: »

Look, it's really quite simple. Matters of the heart do not and should not boil over into physical abuse. Definitely not a protracted torture session.

I'm sure I'm not the only one here that has been cheated on. heck, the longest relationship I've ever been in ended with the 'so and so' cheating on me, but I didn't take her captive and torture the girl. Why? because only a psycho would. we've all had our psycho moments in our head, but no way do right thinking members of society think torturing a person over infidelity is a reasonable reaction.

Ficheall

Raze_them_all wrote: »

are you well??? cheating does not = theft ya see there's this thing called the law, stealing is illegal, cheating is not. I kid you not. False impronment, assault with a deadly weapon are also illegal where let me point out cheating is not.

I'm fine, thanks And you?

Urinating in public and not paying your tv license are also illegal. What's your point?

Delirium

Ficheall wrote: »

I'm fine, thanks And you?

Urinating in public and not paying your tv license are also illegal. What's your point?

I believe that the point Raze was making is that if a banker defrauds the banks customers, the law probably has structures to seize the bankers assets to try and recoup the money wrongfully taken from the customers.

Nowhere in law does it say that it's ok for someone to torture someone who cheated on them.

The_Morrigan

koth wrote: »

I believe that the point Raze was making is that if a banker defrauds the banks customers, the law probably has structures to seize the bankers assets to try and recoup the money wrongfully taken from the customers.

Nowhere in law does it say that it's ok for someone to torture someone who cheated on them.

In all fairness considering our national situation, using a defrauding banker as a case situation for moral and legal example is a bit ridiculous. We all know the law can't sort that out!

Anyway, regardless of that I think the problem here is that Ficheall is looking at the bigger picture saying they were both wrong and they both deserve the consequences of their actions.
What I read from the posts are that this doesn't neccessarily mean the guy deserves to have his nuts cut off or skinned alive, just that he should be responsible for his actions and so should she.

I already said this on thread, people should stop being complete tools towards each other - neither party was innocent and the article reads more tabloid than broadsheet, so we have no idea of the whole truth on the matter.