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Today's bargain watch that I'm not buying
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And feckit, it was spotted and went over what passes for my budget. Went for just under 300 squids. It was a Favre Leuba Quartz Raider. Unusual and very rare. Some have reckoned about 100 made, but I think that's mad(they had plenty of print ads, three different coloured dials and even aa TV ad in 1972 so..). Still, they rarely enough come up. Ah well… I really can't complain as I have been daftly lucky in the pastNo worries. If I see anything kinda cool that I don't want myself
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*Actually there is one like that on the radar, no bids yet but I'd be shocked if it's not spotted...
Speaking of lucky, I got the gold one of these for under 30 euros(in need of repair mind you, so more like 90 quid all in), but here's another NOS example for 400 Euro.
Bulova Accuquartz in steel. So less Austin Powers than the gold and more wearable today. This for me is a good example of how all over the place "values" are today. OK it's a niche market for this anyway, but the exact same model of watch in steel went for just over a grand in open auction(with 20 bidders) a year ago and soon after another in dodgy condition went for 800 odd as a buy it now in under 24 hours. Last week this Accutron pure tuning fork a little more common example went for just under 500 quid. Yet this linked one has been relisted twice.
Now the Italian seller will put off some, US buyers in general rarely look beyond their .com shores anyway, but this kind of weird price ranging can even be found in the "high end" stuff. With some watches like Rolex MilSubs fetching very different prices among collectors who know each other when compared to big ticket auctions. There's probably some economic theory at play here, but that's way beyond my ken.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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"Well, after selling both my kidneys and being sexually tortured for 4 years in a basement. I can finally say that this product was well worth it, up until I gambled with it in a casino in Vegas, I am now in that very same basement..."
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"Dropped a star because no stopwatch. Dropped another star because no light. I'm not sure that spending 16k on a watch was such a great idea without looking at it for real. Looks cool when I'm in my yellow submarine though."
Honestly don't know why I'm looking at Rolex, too small for my tastes and silly money.0 -
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59087
Oh it's daft money alright, though that example has all the bits and bobs with it. It's a "collector/investment grade" one. Still, the barf rises in me at the thoughts of investment watches, but that's the market these days.
I never really got Rolex myself. Well, not quite true, I do like their 50's/60's dress watches and their early bubble back Oysters from the 1930's. They used to be hugely popular among collectors in the 90's. Had a couple myself. Prices went pretty mad and I sold mine. Well not today mad, but mad enough for me. You rarely if ever see them now. I suppose they're too small for modern tastes. I would like a Rolex OysterQuartz. Fantastic movement in them and the battery power keeps prices low for Rolex.
Rolex sport watches, like Porsche and the 911 I can see the appeal, but they don't really appeal to me. And like Porsche and the 911 they rarely get innovative any more, a bit staid, tweaking bits here and there, which gets the fans going. For me that's a real pity as Rolex were one of the most innovative of all companies at the start. Never mind the waterproof automatic, we can thank them for the date window too. Funny enough and generally speaking after the 1930's their movements were actually pretty "meh". Omega, JLC and Longines would wipe the floor with them on that score.
Again like Porsche and the 911 they're bloody well built and you really can't go wrong buying one. A Rolex Sub is my go to advice watch when asked by non watch guys what to buy as a lifetime watch(Seiko divers and Omega Speedies in the mix too).
Oh and if you have a MilSub going for free, I'll have it please.
No date, the Omega seamaster hands and the different bezel the UK MOD asked for makes such a difference. I really don't like mercedes hands for some reason. I wonder why Rolex never made an homage of this?Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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mynameis905 wrote: »
I saw one of these at Gatwick last night and was quite taken aback by how big it seemed - the website says 40mm however it's quite a deep case and, being very shiny, it gives the appearance of being nearer 42-44mm. I believe the original was 35mm.
While we're on the subject of vintage re-issues I received an email from Mont Blanc this morning where this gets a mention.
http://www.montblanc.com/en-gb/collection/watches/montblanc-1858-collection/112639-montblanc-1858-manual-small-second.html
They've clearly raided the Minerva back catalogue and that, presumably, is where the MB 23.03 manual wind movement comes from. Note the way that the sub-seconds element is properly spaced at the bottom of the dial rather than just above the centre which is a classic sign of small-movement syndrome. And no date - the only problem is that it's 44mm :eek:. They also do a solid gold chronograph.
http://www.montblanc.com/en-gb/collection/watches/montblanc-1858-collection/112637-montblanc-1858-chronograph-tachymeter-limited-edition---1.html0 -
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59087
If you like the 1930's ribbon lugged "Luftwaffe" pilots watches, heres one for low enough money for such.
A 1930's DOXA. Very solid movement in these. It looks like it's lost the internal bezel pointer, but that could be readied up easily enough. Seems to have the original crown or pretty close and the dial and hands are in good enough nick(these DOXA are usually gilt dials so can clean up well). The sub seconds hand is a replacement, but could be aged up I reckon. Apparently recently serviced and the regulator isn't that far over at a jaunty angle. And it's a comfortably modern 41mm in size. 255 quid? If this was a Helvetia try at least double the price and a trip cap in hand to the credit union if it was a Zenith or Omega.Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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'I think I like variation #1, what's the cost?'
Wait long enough and it will probably be half price in a sale.
Any links?
I've recently sold the wife's old car so I've a little bit of money that's burning a hole in my pocket, I'm thinking an Omega Seamaster but I might split it across a few more if there's any decent options out there 0 -
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Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,159 Mod ✭✭✭✭ Join Date:Posts: 59087
Ooh well spotted our Bluey. It's an early one with it. "Proof" on the dial and that little recess/divot out of the case above the crown that you get with the early ones. Though as you say it's been spotted. The pics are clear which helps that. I saw one two years back, a blue dialled one(which TBH I prefer myself) of the same era and type and it ended up going for around 130 quid. Pure shíte pictures though. If someone got that for around the 200 quid mark it would be a nice catch I reckon. That all said there's something about it that makes me wonder. I dunno what, but my spidey senses are twitching? Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.
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fret_wimp2 wrote: »There are nicer tridents than that imo. CW make great watches but il never own another after I got one and they then cut the price by 50%.
I know you should never worry about what a watch is worth after you get it, but 50% is a lot. Felt conned really so won't take the risk again.
I still like that watch, but didn't enjoy wearing it after that so passed it on at a major loss.
The only way to buy a CW is at sale price and anyone that buys new has money to burn. It's the guys who buy and are not aware of the sale that I feel sorry for and I reckon CW lose a lot of repeat customer purchases as a result.
I remember when you first listed yours on adverts and the guy called you out on it because of the sale price and offered you €200. I felt really bad for you and at the time you had no choice but to withdraw it from sale, obviously I bought it from you later at a higher price but still not enough to stop you taking a huge hit. Prices are a bit better now on eBay for the C11 MSL, some sellers even have them at over 800 new. Nice watches but there is no way I would put my money on a new one.
I still have your's, very striking watch with an awesome almost disappearing crystal but it doesn't get too much wrist time. I keep it because it's different and the wife likes it because it's not a diver.
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Perhaps not a bargain, but a lovely new series from Volmax
Sturmanskie labelled watches with Miyota 9015 engine
40 mm diameter, also available in white, black or white with gold body
advertised at 389
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sturmanskie-Gagarin-Automatik-S-9015-1271570-/381551885828?hash=item58d643be04:g:zG0AAOSwe7BWys9e0
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