Still Waters No Longer Running, Derp.

ironingbored

So, Watery John's latest rant..

http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/christian-inheritance-allows-us-to-face-dismal-times-with-hope-in-our-hearts-1.1419739#.UbIYpdSgIHw.twitter

Apparently, Irish non-Christians and Atheists are happy because we are basking in the golden shower of Christians' hopeful hearts. :rolleyes:

Sarky

Hurr hurr, golden shower.

Delirium

ironingbored wrote: »

So, Watery John's latest rant..

http://www.irishtimes.com/debate/christian-inheritance-allows-us-to-face-dismal-times-with-hope-in-our-hearts-1.1419739#.UbIYpdSgIHw.twitter

Apparently, Irish non-Christians and Atheists are happy because we are basking in the golden shower of Christians' hopeful hearts. :rolleyes:

Fecks sake, some Christians will just lay claim to any facet of the human experience.

"Bask in the radiance of Waters." Someone pass me a bucket:rolleyes: He really is a strutting cockerel. Just wandering around making non-Christians happy through some sort of osmosis.

Luckily for humanity, people can feel inspired/hopeful regardless of their religious perspective. Or is he daring to claim that the ability to dream is a uniquely Christian trait?

Sarky

We should totally have a forum competition to parody Waters. Random topic every week, most eye-wateringly godawful pile of **** post wins.

MickFleetwood

That article is the perfect example of somebody who's entire thought process regarding religion is incredibly facile.

Corkfeen

I'm definitely up for writing an esoteric article.

ironingbored

koth wrote: »

Fecks sake, some Christians will just lay claim to any facet of the human experience.

"Bask in the radiance of Waters." Someone pass me a bucket:rolleyes: He really is a strutting cockerel. Just wandering around making non-Christians happy through some sort of osmosis.

Luckily for humanity, people can feel inspired/hopeful regardless of their religious perspective. Or is he daring to claim that the ability to dream is a uniquely Christian trait?

Ehm...yes if this is a strutting cockeral:

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/watersnip.jpg

PopePalpatine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juFZh92MUOY

equivariant

Are there any other serious newspapers anywhere in the English speaking world(*) that regularly publish this kind of blatant religious propaganda?

(*) an arbitrary enough distinction I know, but its the only language in which I read well enough to be able to make a comparison.

kylith

ironingbored wrote: »

Ehm...yes if this is a strutting cockeral:

http://cf.broadsheet.ie/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/watersnip.jpg

FFS! You could have warned us!

Hotblack Desiato

Isn't it odd that JW seems to think the ranters and ravers on Whineline are somehow representative of public opinion?

He really is a patronising little effer when it comes to atheists. Also like most religious commentators he doesn't know what secularism means :rolleyes:

A good poll question for yer cultural catholics would be 'Is the resurrection of Jesus Christ the most important thing you've ever heard of?' Anyone reckon the 'yes' percentage would get out of single figures?


Edit: Just in case anyone hasn't seen this in Hazards.

Corkfeen

Erm, it's like an early Christmas present, we have an article from John today!
http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130620/opinion/more-wary-of-female-emotions-than-abortion-S34555.html#.UcMEk789hPY.twitter

A basic summary is, Irish press failed to publish this hard hitting letter.

‘What is the difference, in human rights terms, between a situation in which a distraught male goes in to his doctor and says that his partner is making him suicidal and that he fears that unless he/she (the doctor) arranges to have the partner killed he will kill himself, and a situation in which a distraught female goes to her doctor and says that her unborn child is making her suicidal and that she fears that unless he/she (the doctor) arranges to have the child killed she will kill herself?”

He's great for critical analysis. :rolleyes: Then he does a hard hitting exposé on how women should get a hold of themselves and their hormones, shouldn't be trusted etc etc. Selfish,bla-bla, liberal media bias and a bit of claim of us all just being misandrists too. They should be happy with the pregnancy no matter what the circumstance as it is a blessing. My brain hurts as a result......

coffee_cake

There is no reason to assume that a pregnancy ought to be anything other than a source of joy to the woman involved. In the vast majority of the very limited number of cases in which this is not so, the factors underlying the difficulty usually relate not to objective circumstances but to either intuited societal disapproval or selfishness on the part of the woman involved.

Jesus fcuking christ fcuk off

kylith

I read it, commented on it, and now I can't see because the red mist has descended.

Delirium

A piece with the core message that women are emotionally manipulative and that's why they are more likely to get what they want when compared to men.

He really has a bitter streak towards women :eek:

TheChizler

At this stage I'm convinced that he's parodying himself.

robindch

TheChizler wrote: »

At this stage I'm convinced that he's parodying himself.

Was having dinner in darkest D4 the other evening, when Witters walked in with some lady and sat down a few tables away.

Considering the misery, fear and hatred that his leaden, deceitful prose induces in Popette and vulnerable people like her, he can count himself lucky indeed that I wasn't serving or cooking for him.

coffee_cake

robindch wrote: »

Was having dinner in darkest D4 the other evening, when Witters walked in with some lady and sat down a few tables away.

Considering the misery, fear and hatred that his leaden, deceitful prose induces in Popette and vulnerable people like her, he can count himself lucky indeed that I wasn't serving or cooking for him.

Next time you see him on a date whip out that article and ask her is she comfortable dating someone who hates women so much

Pherekydes

John Waters wrote:

There is no reason to assume that a pregnancy ought to be anything other than a source of joy to the woman involved.

Jesus Christ, what an ignorant bastard.

Yeah, my wife's work colleague really enjoyed carrying her brainless baby to full term. It was a great source of joy to her. Or maybe it wasn't because she was a selfish bitch?

Why not crawl off and die in a hole, you ignorant fúck.

PopePalpatine

Good. Waters has exposed the rampant misogny of the anti-choice ****.

Nodin

Corkfeen wrote: »

Erm, it's like an early Christmas present, we have an article from John today!
http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130620/opinion/more-wary-of-female-emotions-than-abortion-S34555.html#.UcMEk789hPY.twitter

A basic summary is, Irish press failed to publish this hard hitting letter.

He's great for critical analysis. :rolleyes: Then he does a hard hitting exposé on how women should get a hold of themselves and their hormones, shouldn't be trusted etc etc. Selfish,bla-bla, liberal media bias and a bit of claim of us all just being misandrists too. They should be happy with the pregnancy no matter what the circumstance as it is a blessing. My brain hurts as a result......

...he's finally managed to combine the two main streams in his life - bitter misogyny and creeping jesus Catholicism.

PopePalpatine

Corkfeen wrote: »

He's great for critical analysis. :rolleyes: Then he does a hard hitting exposé on how women should get a hold of themselves and their hormones, shouldn't be trusted etc etc. Selfish,bla-bla, liberal media bias and a bit of claim of us all just being misandrists too. They should be happy with the pregnancy no matter what the circumstance as it is a blessing. My brain hurts as a result......

Bloody hell, this is just pig-ignorant stuff that you'd expect from Tadhg the retired farmer. Then again, the Irish Catholic did publish an equally ignorant article by Mary Kenny completely missing the point about stoicism and Irish society.

Nodin

PopePalpatine wrote: »

Bloody hell, this is just pig-ignorant stuff that you'd expect from Tadhg the retired farmer. Then again, the Irish Catholic did publish an equally ignorant article by Mary Kenny completely missing the point about stoicism and Irish society.

...the bit that has the heading "Theoretical Idea" is where the mask gets flung off entirely. Vile, bitter stuff with little or no basis in fact.

Obliq

Nodin wrote: »

...the bit that has the heading "Theoretical Idea" is where the mask gets flung off entirely. Vile, bitter stuff with little or no basis in fact.

Oh christ, I am SO sorry I read that. How he has managed to think.........fcuk it, words fail me.

Hotblack Desiato

Corkfeen wrote: »

A basic summary is, Irish press failed to publish this hard hitting letter.

Not surprised, it's been closed for years :pac:

robindch

Corkfeen wrote: »

Erm, it's like an early Christmas present, we have an article from John today!
http://www.irishcatholic.ie/20130620/opinion/more-wary-of-female-emotions-than-abortion-S34555.html#.UcMEk789hPY.twitter

Judging by the comments, the wider comment-posting internet doesn't seem all that impressed with Waters' latest lunge into the predictably deranged.

SebBerkovich

The awesome David Robert Grimes has written an open letter to our good friend john you can read it here

Some of you may be familiar with the work of John Waters; he's an Irish religious conservative who is blessed with strong opinions, laced with increasingly toxic amounts of homophobia and misogyny. Seeing as John's gone and upset every one again this week, this is my open letter to Dear old John

coffee_cake

SebBerkovich wrote: »

The awesome David Robert Grimes has written an open letter to our good friend john you can read it here

That is awesome

Bobby42

I loved this part:

but of late, I cannot help but notice the rosary clutching morally indignant Ireland you paint is not the Ireland many of us know, and I’m concerned about your grasp on reality

fisgon

The problem with Waters is that he is a narcissist, he mixes up his opinion with fact. He somehow thinks that just because he believes something, then that makes it true.