Still Waters No Longer Running, Derp.

CramCycle

Piliger wrote: »

If that were the outcome than we could be happy ... but somehow I worry that it will just lead to yet another merrygoround with legal threats and payouts continuing.

It's about time broadcasters were completely left out of this stupid law.

Well that's what Pat pointed out, what is undue to one person maybe perceived as due by someone else. I didn't hear the end of the discussion though.

Nodin

SW wrote: »

Someone on twitter just pointed out that if Waters had accepted the right of reply he could have read out whatever letter he wanted himself.

....an act of terrorism akin to the setting off of a nuclear device....

aidan24326

pauldla wrote: »

And I really, really hopes he reads it. Really.

Hard to know, but probably can't resist I'd imagine.

Doesn't post though, he knows we're all wise to the postmodernism generator at this stage.

B0jangles

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/waters-challenges-rt%C3%A9-statement-on-panti-row-1.1683645

A facebook friend just pointed out that the illustration the Irish Times chose to go with the latest JW versus Panti story is Hilarious.

It is quite literally a picture of a bridge over troubled Waters

smokingman

B0jangles wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/waters-challenges-rt%C3%A9-statement-on-panti-row-1.1683645

A facebook friend just pointed out that the illustration the Irish Times chose to go with the latest JW versus Panti story is Hilarious.

It is quite literally a picture of a bridge over troubled Waters

I would have thought "Troll"...

Links234

B0jangles wrote: »

It is quite literally a picture of a bridge over troubled Waters

I thought it was more of

A troll in it's natural habitat

:pac:

iwantmydinner

He's just so... pathetic and scraggy. Like a frail 90 year old, or something.

A frail 90 year old with a serious series of complexes.

Nodin

B0jangles wrote: »

http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/waters-challenges-rt%C3%A9-statement-on-panti-row-1.1683645

A facebook friend just pointed out that the illustration the Irish Times chose to go with the latest JW versus Panti story is Hilarious.

It is quite literally a picture of a bridge over troubled Waters

That's near me - Harolds Cross Bridge. I would have dropped the bags and crapped on him I'd known........

Nodin

Now this is indeed funny.......

" I’ve been called very nasty things, I’ve been told that I’m physically ugly. It happens. People are nasty to people sometimes. And I’m very, very sorry about the fact that it has been a sad part of our culture, that this happened to homosexual people in the past and to some extent will always happen as long as you have a certain element of yobs in our society. But those people are the disrespected minority now and what is wrong and what has gone on here, that I would have great concerns about is, to try and equate those yobs with reputable journalists like Breda O’Brien, David Quinn, John Waters, who have always been at pains to be utterly respectful of people while, in a very intelligent and
reasoned way, their views on the definition of marriage."
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/07/it-was-an-open-and-shut-case/

Piliger

I immediately saw it as a narcissistic piece of jesus-style hubris ...

Sulla Felix

Jernal wrote: »

Problem is that a transaction of money that has about fifty coins or more can legally be refused. Nevermind the actual logistics of obtaining 45,000 and transporting them to chez waters.

Brian Shanahan wrote: »

Where's that written?

It's 100 coins of any denomination in a single transaction as far as I remember from several drawn out arguments over in consumer issues. Coin is legal tender but the obligation to accept it has limits, this being one of them.

Oh, and just because I'm bored at work, E45000 in euro coins works out at about 400 cubic square metres and just under half a ton, so you're looking at a decent sized truck to transport it.

recedite

Piliger wrote: »

In the Irish Times article today on this debate, it says "Mr Rabbitte said he is “considering an amendment that would require broadcasters to avoid causing undue offence”.

That reminds me of something.
Ah yes, the blasphemy laws debacle.

Hotblack Desiato

Sulla Felix wrote: »

E45000 in euro coins works out at about 400 cubic square metres

What's a cubic square metre
I'd guess you meant 0.4m³

0.0567m³ if laid out neatly in flat layers, should be less if jumbled up in bags.

and just under half a ton, so you're looking at a decent sized truck to transport it.

A small car van e.g. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta-van takes a 500kg payload no problem. But 45,000 1 euro coins only weigh 337.5 kg

Sulla Felix

ninja900 wrote: »

What's a cubic square metre
I'd guess you meant 0.4m³

0.0567m³ if laid out neatly in flat layers, should be less if jumbled up in bags.




A small car van e.g. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta-van takes a 500kg payload no problem. But 45,000 1 euro coins only weigh 337.5 kg

I'm ashamed. Always check your decimals. I plead lenience on the grounds of it being the end of shitty week.

kylith

Sulla Felix wrote: »

It's 100 coins of any denomination in a single transaction as far as I remember from several drawn out arguments over in consumer issues. Coin is legal tender but the obligation to accept it has limits, this being one of them.

Oh, and just because I'm bored at work, E45000 in euro coins works out at about 400 cubic square metres and just under half a ton, so you're looking at a decent sized truck to transport it.

Would it count as a transaction though? A transaction is usually defined as the act of buying or selling something so surely as this is payment of a debt you could pay in as many coins as you wanted.




Which is the biscuit thread these days?

lazygal

http://www.centralbank.ie/paycurr/notescoin/Pages/FrequentlyAskedQuestions.aspx


Fyi.

tawnyowl

Nodin wrote: »

Now this is indeed funny.......

" I’ve been called very nasty things, I’ve been told that I’m physically ugly. It happens. People are nasty to people sometimes. And I’m very, very sorry about the fact that it has been a sad part of our culture, that this happened to homosexual people in the past and to some extent will always happen as long as you have a certain element of yobs in our society. But those people are the disrespected minority now and what is wrong and what has gone on here, that I would have great concerns about is, to try and equate those yobs with reputable journalists like Breda O’Brien, David Quinn, John Waters, who have always been at pains to be utterly respectful of people while, in a very intelligent and
reasoned way, their views on the definition of marriage."
http://www.broadsheet.ie/2014/02/07/it-was-an-open-and-shut-case/

Respectful? Reasoned?? *snort* *giggle*

Hotblack Desiato

kylith wrote: »

Would it count as a transaction though? A transaction is usually defined as the act of buying or selling something so surely as this is payment of a debt you could pay in as many coins as you wanted.

Legal tender means currency which a creditor must accept if offered to settle a debt.

A retailer offering goods for sale isn't obliged to accept legal tender, they can refuse large notes for instance. No debt exists because they keep the goods and you keep your money. Now if you ate a nice restaurant meal for two (well, not on your own) for say, €100 and all you had in your wallet was a €500 note, and they say it's not their policy to accept €500 notes, it would get interesting, as a debt exists as you've already eaten the meal

Nodin

ninja900 wrote: »

What's a cubic square metre
I'd guess you meant 0.4m³

0.0567m³ if laid out neatly in flat layers, should be less if jumbled up in bags.




A small car van e.g. http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ford/fiesta-van takes a 500kg payload no problem. But 45,000 1 euro coins only weigh 337.5 kg

Be easier to divide into socks with 5 Euro in two pound coins in each, and deliver it slap by slap.

Nodin

"COLUMNIST John Waters has yet to decide whether he will give any of the €40,000 defamation settlement paid to him by RTE to charity.
............................................................
RTE suggested giving the total sum (€40,000) to charity but John decided to take it and has yet to decide what to do with it. But there are several charities he works closely with," he said.
Mr Waters criticised RTE's statement this week explaining why it paid a total of €85,000 in settlements to him, fellow 'Irish Times' columnist Breda O'Brien and the Iona Institute.
That settlement was for alleged defamatory comments on the 'Saturday Night Show', which made certain remarks in relation to alleged homophobia.
RTE deemed Mr Waters' proposed apology as "unacceptable". The apology, seen by the Irish Independent, included four references to Mr O'Neill."
http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/waters-yet-to-decide-if-any-of-40000-settlement-will-go-to-charity-29990740.html

The world must see this apology, painful though it shall doubtless be.

A comedy highlight

"Yesterday, Mr Waters said his "reputation was destroyed" and when he "tried to vindicate it" he was "demonised"."

Demonised, eh?

"Drunk with liberal hubris, have we reinvented the wheel of life, deciding that two lesbians playing House can trump the claims of the forces that create human life?"
http://cedarlounge.wordpress.com/2008/04/18/meanwhile-john-waters-reinventing-the-wheel-of-life-yeah-right/

"This is really a kind of satire on marriage which is being conducted by the gay lobby. It’s not that they want to get married; they want to destroy the institution of marriage because they’re envious of it and they feel really, that it’s an affront to their equality..."
......................................
"This is really an attempt to discredit an institution, the nominative institution on which society and human civilization is founded. If you do that there will be consequences, and one of them is that marriage will become a nothing"
http://collegetribune.ie/index.php/2012/08/gay-marriage-is-a-product-of-this-bunker-mentality/

Pherekydes

Nodin wrote: »

"This is really an attempt to discredit an institution, the nominative institution on which society and human civilization is founded. If you do that there will be consequences, and one of them is that marriage will become a nothing"

Having children out of wedlock will do the same, John.

Hotblack Desiato

Nodin wrote: »

COLUMNIST John Waters has yet to decide whether he will give any of the €40,000 defamation settlement paid to him by RTE to charity.

Iona have charitable status, don't they :eek:

Pherekydes wrote: »

Having children out of wedlock will do the same, John.

Hmm it's not that long ago since another 'controversial'* newspaper columnist made reference to 'mothers of bastards' :rolleyes:



* as in, stirring up sh1te for the sake of publicity

Bannasidhe

ninja900 wrote: »

Iona have charitable status, don't they :eek:




Hmm it's not that long ago since another 'controversial'* newspaper columnist made reference to 'mothers of bastards' :rolleyes:



* as in, stirring up sh1te for the sake of publicity

It honestly just occurred to me that as far as JW and Iona are concerned I am the living embodiment of most, if not all, they believe is unholy

1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.



Am I missing anything?

I would rather like to have a complete set....

The Black Oil

You left out you're one of those evil anonymous internet types.

Bannasidhe

The Black Oil wrote: »

You left out you're one of those evil anonymous internet types.

Oh well spotted!

Shall add to the list.



1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.
9. Anonymous internet type commentator.



Am I missing anything else?

iwantmydinner

Bannasidhe wrote: »

Oh well spotted!

Shall add to the list.



1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.
9. Anonymous internet type commentator.



Am I missing anything else?

Aren't you one a' them.... Whatchacallem... Wimminz?

Bannasidhe

iwantmydinner wrote: »

Aren't you one a' them.... Whatchacallem... Wimminz?

:eek: I forgot that one.

I. Am. Morto. Like.



Ok so it's:

1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.
9. Anonymous internet type commentator.
10. Possessor of a womb.

What else have I missed?

Pherekydes

Bannasidhe wrote: »

:eek: I forgot that one.

I. Am. Morto. Like.



Ok so it's:

1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.
9. Anonymous internet type commentator.
10. Possessor of a womb.

What else have I missed?

Corkonian?

B0jangles

Bannasidhe wrote: »

:eek: I forgot that one.

I. Am. Morto. Like.



Ok so it's:

1. Atheist.
2. Homosexual.
3. Feminist.
4. Mother (and grandmother) of bastards.
5. Socially liberal.
6. Anti-Cleric.
7. Academic 'intellectual'.
8. Socialist.
9. Anonymous internet type commentator.
10. Possessor of a womb.

What else have I missed?

(ex?) Rugby player?; I bet they hate them too for some reason.

swampgas

Bannasidhe wrote: »

What else have I missed?

Historical revisionist ? :pac: