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Anybody here got a mechanical keyboard?

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  • 06-07-2011 6:50pm
    #1
    Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭


    I'm thinking of buying a Noppoo Choc Mini with Cherry MX Red switches, seems to be quite a tidy bit of kit! Price is around €85 shipped.

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    Noppoo Choc Mini (Cherry Brown) review

    Numpad-less which is ideal for gaming. I just bought a $5 one off DealExtreme that I'll put to the left of the keyboard if needs be.

    Check out Geekhack.org for more info on switch types and mechanical keyboards in general. Quite a pricey hobby, it seems.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 106 ✭✭heid


    Mechanical keyboards are usually noisy, like a typewriter and this wpuld get on my nerves.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,983 ✭✭✭Tea_Bag


    just been on Geekhack.org... still wondering.... wtf is a mech keyboard?


  • Registered Users Posts: 9,945 ✭✭✭trout


    http://webwit.nl/input/kbsim/

    :pac:


    I have a few Model M keyboards from the late 80's ... in PMO. My current fav is a Das Keyboard, purely because it has the USB ports out.

    -> http://www.daskeyboard.com/


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,514 ✭✭✭PseudoFamous


    We used to have one in the house, but I din't really like it due to the clackclackclack it made. It was great for typing, but it pissed everyone off from the noise. Also, the mouse in the background (Razer Naga) is bloody great, it has SOOO many buttons.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,710 ✭✭✭Monotype


    Tea_Bag wrote: »
    just been on Geekhack.org... still wondering.... wtf is a mech keyboard?

    They're those loud clacky ones. If you open most keyboards up, you'll see a thin circuit board and the keys are resting on flexible pieces of rubber/plastic. This makes them a lot cheaper to make. The mechanical ones have got metal hinges in them. They're usually nosier and bulkier but very durable. They're more of a speciality item now and usually cost a bit more.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    We used to have one in the house, but I din't really like it due to the clackclackclack it made. It was great for typing, but it pissed everyone off from the noise. Also, the mouse in the background (Razer Naga) is bloody great, it has SOOO many buttons.

    I have already bought a DealExtreme scissor switch special for night-time computing
    ;)

    http://www.dealextreme.com/p/78-key-compact-slim-usb-keyboard-black-160cm-cable-44378

    sku_44378_1.jpg
    heid wrote: »
    Mechanical keyboards are usually noisy, like a typewriter and this wpuld get on my nerves.


    The Red switches are linear-type, which should mean they produce quite a bit less noise than the classic typewriter-style Blue switch.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    http://www.overclock.net/keyboards/491752-mechanical-keyboard-guide.html

    Guide for everyone.

    I'm waiting for the Steelseries 7G to be in stock on Amazon, then I'm buying it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Steelseries keyboards have some weird mongrel ANSI/ISO layout. I'd prefer pure ISO since that's what I'm used to and I have my gaming binds based around that, but the only tenkeyless mechanical in ISO seems to be the Filco Majestouch which is double the price of the Choc Mini, doesn't have MX Reds, and is out of stock.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Baza210 wrote: »
    Steelseries keyboards have some weird mongrel ANSI/ISO layout. I'd prefer pure ISO since that's what I'm used to and I have my gaming binds based around that, but the only tenkeyless mechanical in ISO seems to be the Filco Majestouch which is double the price of the Choc Mini, doesn't have MX Reds, and is out of stock.

    What MX Black keyboard would you recommend? The 7G seems perfect for me as it has everything I want in a fullsize keyboard (passthrough USB and Audio, Wrist Rest, Media Keys and MX Black switches).


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    I don't really know of any Black switch keyboards except the silent Das Keyboard, which has a USB hub but lacks the other features you mention. I'm sure you'll get used to the Steelseries layout.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Baza210 wrote: »
    I don't really know of any Black switch keyboards except the silent Das Keyboard, which has a USB hub but lacks the other features you mention. I'm sure you'll get used to the Steelseries layout.
    Alright, looks like I'll just have to wait until it's back in stock now :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 732 ✭✭✭Kadongy


    Are there any perceived advantages to this apart from the durability? Or is it more a matter of personal taste?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    N-key rollover, as well as key recognition without bottoming out which can be less fatiguing on your fingers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    After consideration I think I'll go for the Das Keyboard Professional Silent, only problem is I can't find a place that stocks it and ships to here, any help?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Try PMing Ross/CuLT, he has two of them ;)


  • Subscribers Posts: 9,716 ✭✭✭CuLT


    After consideration I think I'll go for the Das Keyboard Professional Silent, only problem is I can't find a place that stocks it and ships to here, any help?
    Getdigital.de stocks em, be prepared for a hefty shipping fee on top of the keyboard though. Bout 150 quid all in.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,727 ✭✭✭darego


    i really recommend getting one mate! i got a razor blackwidow with my new rig a few weeks ago and i love it! they feel great, last longer and they have way better response times(better for gaming) than normal ones. well worth the money imo. regarding them sounding like a typewriter, hardly! haha tiny bit more louder than most of the normal ones.


    here's the one i have
    http://www.scan.co.uk/products/razer-black-widow-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-usb-wired


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    The Das Keyboard Silent uses the Cherry MX Black switches. If the price Ross mentioned is too much for you, might be worth checking out the Steelseries 6Gv2. I think it is under €100. Just be careful you get the UK/ISO layout, I think Overclockers UK have it.

    Edit: http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-026-ST

    I would check that it is indeed the UK layout.

    Edit2: Komplett also have it http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/17_MOUSEKB/05_GAMINGK/productdetails/20088935/Steelseries_6Gv2_Wired_Macro_Keys/64225/default.aspx


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    CuLT wrote: »
    Getdigital.de stocks em, be prepared for a hefty shipping fee on top of the keyboard though. Bout 150 quid all in.

    The only Silent one they have is the Ultimate Silent :(
    Baza210 wrote: »
    The Das Keyboard Silent uses the Cherry MX Black switches. If the price Ross mentioned is too much for you, might be worth checking out the Steelseries 6Gv2. I think it is under €100. Just be careful you get the UK/ISO layout, I think Overclockers UK have it.

    Edit: http://overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=KB-026-ST

    I would check that it is indeed the UK layout.

    Edit2: Komplett also have it http://komplett.ie/Komplett/product/ZKB_01COM/17_MOUSEKB/05_GAMINGK/productdetails/20088935/Steelseries_6Gv2_Wired_Macro_Keys/64225/default.aspx

    I was thinking of going for that instead of the 7G ( can get aftermarket USB Hub and Wrist rest for less than what the 7G costs), but the Komplett one is the US layout, and I can't find anything about the layout of the Overclockers one :(


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    This is the layout of one bought from OCUK: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7082/img0391g.jpg

    And this is my work desk with my new keyboard :)http://i.imgur.com/9QjFW.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    I use a Das Silent professional, it is awesome to type on and incredibly durable. HOWEVER: even the "silent" version is very loud. Also note that if connected via USB N-key rollover doesn't work, only 6 keys will register. This is only an issue when 2 people are playing Street Fighter or whatever on same keyboard tho... I got the ultimate version too, with no keys printed :)

    I had a logitech K800 scissor switch keyboard before, which is very nice to type on. However, scissor switch mechanism is very delicate... The flimsy pieces of plastic break easily, and any kind of spill will gum them up. End result = in the bin after 3 months :(

    Also, for lulz, sometimes I have to use a Bloomberg keyboard, which costs £10,000 per year but is AWFUL :Dhttp://dl.dropbox.com/u/4436079/images/IMG_20110609_182106.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Choc Mini has NKRO USB, it registers as multiple keyboards in device manager.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLr9dDMm5Sw (mute the music)


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,890 ✭✭✭Effluo


    http://geekhack.org/showwiki.php?title=Island:14962
    I was worried I would get accidental key presses, but i can see now that is not going to be an issue. Typing on this thing feels great, especially once you build up a good flow, you can feel your typing speed increase. Once you get into a nice rythem, it feels like your fingers are having sex with the keyboard.


    Interesting concept :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Baza210 wrote: »
    This is the layout of one bought from OCUK: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7082/img0391g.jpg

    And this is my work desk with my new keyboard :)http://i.imgur.com/9QjFW.jpg

    Is that the 6GV2 or the 7G in the first picture?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    6gv2 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=19193984&postcount=27

    About the swapped keys, you can probably flip them around quite easily with some intervening software.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭VenomIreland


    Baza210 wrote: »
    6gv2 http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=19193984&postcount=27

    About the swapped keys, you can probably flip them around quite easily with some intervening software.

    I don't think those swapped keys would bother me, they are keys I rarely need to use anyway.

    Now to just actually save up for it :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,789 ✭✭✭✭ScumLord


    That has to be the geekiest link I've ever read. I can't believe I spent nearly an hour going through it all. :o I have a good few of those Dell boards they talk about, they come free with servers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,699 ✭✭✭Brian


    Turns out my Choc Mini actually has Brown Switches. Kind of annoyed. It still feels good but I paid extra for the Reds, will be getting the seller to send me the proper one ASAP. Hopefully he doesn't mind me trying both of them side by side.


  • Registered Users Posts: 275 ✭✭Griffin87


    Baza210 wrote: »
    Turns out my Choc Mini actually has Brown Switches. Kind of annoyed. It still feels good but I paid extra for the Reds, will be getting the seller to send me the proper one ASAP. Hopefully he doesn't mind me trying both of them side by side.


    hey Im thinking about buying choc mini with reds did you get them in the end ?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 274 ✭✭kfish2oo2


    I have one of these and I love it. I've used "true" mechanical keyboards too, but I can't really tell the difference. It is, however, streets ahead of any laptop style keyboard I've ever used. Had it 5 years now and not a single issue.

    I use it for gaming and programming and its just perfect. Key travel is nice - a bit of resistance but not enough to cause any noticeable fatigue in extended play or programming sessions. It makes a bit of noise - more so than a laptop keyboard but not quite as much as a true mechanical keyboard. I've had a few keyboards over the years but I always come back to this one - it just feels much more responsive and the layout is superb (surprisingly enough). Best of all, its cheap and cheerful - you can find them online for less than €20.


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