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4 races - 4 months - 4 targets

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  • 07-07-2011 2:33pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭


    I feel it’s time to get back to basics and get another training log going, so the plan is to do the adidas race series and these are my targets.

    5mile – sub 30
    10 mile sub 60
    Half marathon sub 1:20
    Marathon - sub 2:50

    Did the portumna 100k a couple of weeks ago and the legs are still not that fresh yet, but I’m hoping the focus on the shorter stuff will revive the motivation.

    Pb’s for the distances are:

    5 mile - 2009 28:09 BHAA RTE
    10mile- 2010 62:13 race series
    Half mar - 2009 1:20:32 derry half
    Marathon - 2010 2:55:33 DCM


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    cycled to/from work 30mins (12k) each way

    Tues
    cycled to/from work
    plus lunchtime 6k run incl 2k round the track in7:38

    Weds
    cycled to work
    run home 12k in 1:00 av hr 136. got absolutely drowned

    Thurs
    cycled to/from work

    Fri
    ran to work 11k in 1:02 - ran this one on empty, so it was a struggle


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Welcome back jaymack75. Nice targets. Nicely done in Portuma too you mad hatter


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭seanynova


    good luck with the training and the goals, we have similar targets so will follow with interest.

    what plan are you following?


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    seanynova wrote: »
    good luck with the training and the goals, we have similar targets so will follow with interest.

    what plan are you following?
    thanks seanynova,
    not really following any plan. legs still not fully back after portumna, so i'm just trying to keep the training consistent and raise the quantity and quality steadily over the coming weeks


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭Oisin11178


    Didnt get a chance to talk down in portumna. Good luck with your goals. That 100k nearly killed me. mental experience.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Oisin11178 wrote: »
    That 100k nearly killed me. mental experience.
    so was portumna your taper for the 5 marathons in 5 days? don't remember seeing that strategy in any running books. not sure my legs would ever forgive me if I tried that:D


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Sat
    steady run - 8k in 35:50 av hr 139

    Sun
    threshold run - 8k in 32:06 av hr 158 (1.5k warm up and down)
    total 11k in 48:15

    haven't been doing many quality sessions over the last number of weeks, so needed to get this session under the belt before the 5miler next sat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,496 ✭✭✭Oisin11178


    jaymack75 wrote: »
    so was portumna your taper for the 5 marathons in 5 days? don't remember seeing that strategy in any running books. not sure my legs would ever forgive me if I tried that:D
    To be honest mate the 100k was far harder than the 5in5 days. Every mile after 40 was torture in the 100k. The guy that got the best times in the 5in5 is an ultra beast. You probably know him.
    http://statistik.d-u-v.org/getresultperson.php?&runner=55313&Language=EN
    The stats from 2009 start normally then some monster improvments.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Oisin11178 wrote: »
    To be honest mate the 100k was far harder than the 5in5 days.
    you made a great recovery to be able for the 5in5 so soon
    Oisin11178 wrote: »
    You probably know him.

    yeah, met him in portumna last year - he had done nearly 120k in a race the previous wkend and then did the 100k.....savage :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    cycled to/from work 30mins (12k) each way

    Tues
    cycled to work 30mins
    run home 12k in 54:40 av hr 150. ran a bit harder than planned cos I had to get home for babysitting duties.......


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Weds
    ran to work - 12k in 1:01:20 av hr 139
    cycled home 12k 30mins

    Thurs
    cycled to/from work 30mins eachway
    evening 8k run - 35:30 av hr 143 twas warm out there this evening!


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Today
    cycled to / from work 30mins each way
    lunchtime run - 8k in 34:53 incl 4k on the track in 15:19 av hr 159
    that's just a bit slower pace than I'm hoping for at the 5miler tomorrow, but I should be able to race at a higher heartrate......we'll see :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    first of my 4 target races completed today. didn't quite make the sub 30, but I'm reasonably happy that it was close enough.

    did a quick warmup and found a spot a few yards back from the line. started out handy enough and got settled into a reasonable pace for the first 2 miles. 3rd mile was mostly downhill and a nice tailwind. Found I was struggling with the pace on mile 4 and let a few gaps open. Still had time in the bag at the start of the khyber, but found it hard to lift the effort level much more, going uphill and back into the wind, even as I could see 29:xx ticking away on the finishing clock in the distance.

    Crossed the line in 30:05

    split times
    1) 5:58
    2) 5:53
    3) 5:42
    4) 6:10
    5) 6:19


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,418 ✭✭✭Aimman


    Well done on the run yesterday. Sorry I couldn't have a proper chat at the finish, the runners were getting hungry for their goody bags, didn't want a riot on our hands, lol.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Yesterday's race has helped me to focus a bit closer on my areas of weakness. I'm going to try and shake a few bad eating habits that I've adopted. I could eat sweets and biscuits all day.

    From today, I'm staying off the alcohol, most carbs, sweets biscuits etc and going to majorly increase the veggies intake, lean meats and salads

    Weighed in at 79kg this morning. My target before DCM is to get below 74kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Sunday
    Recovery 5mile run in 37:55. Av hr 135. Legs a bit tight but have held up fairly well since yesterdays race.

    Monday
    5 mile run in 36:43. Av hr 135. Didn’t really wasn’t to go out the door for this one. Legs felt empty at the start of this one, but finished much stronger.


    On day 3 now of the new diet. Loads of cravings on the first day, but wasn’t as bad after that. Just need to stick with it and the weight should be falling off me :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Tues / Weds / Thurs
    Didn't manage to get any running in - but cycled to and from work each day

    weigh-in this morning was 77kg


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Fri
    Just cycled to and from work 30 mins each

    Sat
    Nothing - didn't get a chance to get out

    Sun
    Salvaged something from the week and went for 5mile threshold run with 1.5k warm up and down. felt lighter than whe I did this 2wks ago, but didn't go any quicker. It was warm though about 21degC
    5mile in 32:08 av hr 160

    weigh-in this morning 76kg.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    Cycled to / from work 30mins each
    Lunchtime run 8k in 35mins, including 4k threshold on the track in 15:17 (av 158)

    Tues
    longer cycle to work 28k in 1hr, then evening 30mins cycle home

    Weds
    am: cycle to work 30mins
    pm: run home - 12k in 55:00

    Thurs
    am: run to work - 12k in 1:02
    pm: cycle home


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Fri
    cycled to/from work 30 mins each
    lunch run 8k in 37:45 including 7x400's with 200 recovery jogs
    80.2
    80.1
    79.7
    78.6
    79.6
    79.8
    78.7
    found these hard, but nice to be running fast for a change

    Sat
    8k run in 33:45 av hr 142
    felt a bit of a burn form yesterday's session, but this is the quickest i've done this loop for a good while.

    Sun
    8k run in 34:08 av hr 143

    56k total for the week


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    8k run in 33:40 av hr 140

    Tues and Weds
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    Thurs
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    lunchtime run 8k in 36:49 incl 7 x 400m on the track w/200m recovery jogs

    splits
    1) 81.1
    2) 78.6
    3) 78.7
    4) 78.8
    5) 80.7
    6) 82.7
    7) 80.0

    Fri
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    lunchtime run 8k in 35:08 incl 4k threshold on the track in 14:46 av hr 158

    happy with this 4k session as it's about 30 secs quicker than a couple of wks ago

    Sat
    8k run in 35:07 av hr 138

    Sun
    rest day

    32k total for the week.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    cycled to / from work 1:10

    Tues
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    lunchtime run 8k in 33:45 incl 4k threshold on the track in 14:24 (av 162)

    Happy with this 4k session. Started faster than I planned and was able to maintain it

    Weds
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    evening 8k run in 34:10 av hr 144

    Thurs
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way


    Fri
    cycled to / from work 30 mins each way

    evening 11k run in 46:00
    incl 8k threshold in 30:51 av hr 159

    Sat
    managed to get out around 10pm for 8k run in 34:47 av hr 137

    Sun
    5k to and from UCD
    10k round UCD track in 38:16 av hr 160
    total 20k in 1:30

    I was hoping to do this 10k in 37:30, but found it hard to keep the speed up.

    55k run total for the week (8:59 total training time)


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    am: cycled to work 30mins

    pm: nice easy paced run home - 12k in 58:41 av hr 134

    Tues
    am: ran to work - 11k in 55:06 av hr 138

    pm: cycled home 30 mins


    Planning to get out for a run tonight, then just cycling on thurs and fri so that the legs are fresh for the 10miler on Sat.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Weds
    Cycled to / from work
    pm: 8k easy paced run in 37:17 av hr 128

    Thurs / Fri
    Cycled to / from work

    Sat
    Frank Duffy 10miler

    Target was sub 60. Felt good going into this, but still I knew it was was a big ask to break the hour after not breaking 30 in the 5miler last month.

    Started out about 10 rows back and the first half mile felt busy and I was feeling held up, but decided it would serve me well later. First 3 miles were quick, but I was feeling ok, happy to have some time in the bank and hoping to maintain the pace as long as possible. Didn't last long. Kept mile 4 sub-6, but lost some time on mile 5 and was starting to struggle, but with 29:24 on the clock, I was calculating that I could still afford a few slower miles and still make the sub 60. Unfortunately I found mile 6 no easier and with the 6:27 split my sub 60 was out the window. Now it was a case of damage limitation. I was getting overtaken by quite a few groups and tried to stay with them, but just couldn't find any speed in the legs. By mile 7 I just wanted it all to be over! Tried to lift the pace for the last mile, but the finish line seemed so far away

    Looking back at the splits, I clearly went off faster than I could sustain, but I suppose I can learn from that. I definitely have a lack of racing these shorter distances. Also need to work on somespeed-endurance training

    I do wonder - if I went out at 6-min mile pace, would I have run better in the second half?

    Splits:

    1) 5:43 av 165
    2) 5:48 av 165
    3) 5:43 av 165
    4) 5:55 av 164
    5) 6:14 av 162
    6) 6:27 av 162
    7) 6:24 av 161
    8) 6:26 av 160
    9) 6:18 av 157
    10) 6:36 av 160

    The good news - today was a new pb in 1:01:36 :) I also think it was a great course - not as tough as I'd heard. Well done to the organisers and all the volunteers. Nice to meet a few boardsies after as well - some very competitive times there :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Sun
    Recovery run – 8k in 38:26 av hr 130
    15min hotel pool swim. Long time since I’ve been swimming, so just did a bit of gentle technique work to get back into it.

    Mon
    1hr yoga session
    15mins technique session in the pool
    7k trail run in 32:49 av hr 124

    Tues – rest day

    Weds
    Lovely morning run along the Dodder. 14k in 1:04:11 av hr 135. This is what running is all about :)

    Thurs
    I’ve been think a bit about how badly I got the pacing wrong in the 10miler on Sat. I think I need to do a few progression runs to learn better pacing. So,

    12k in 47:22 - Continuous progression run on the UCD track – plus 5k there and back (1:39 for 22k)
    4k @ 4:05k pace, av hr 152
    4k @ 3:59k pace, av hr 155
    2k @ 3:50k pace, av hr 159
    2k @ 3:40k pace, av hr 164

    Fri
    8k run in 34:57, av hr 140

    Sat
    Easy 8k run in 37:35, av hr 132

    Sun
    Went out just after watching the mens 10,000 and I was flying. Had to consciously slow down to keep the heart rate down. Quickest I’ve done this route in a long while
    8k in 33:08, av hr 146

    Off work this week, so no cycling. Happy with weekly run total of 67k


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,137 ✭✭✭seanynova


    hey, sorry for the late reply..but it does seem like you went out too fast in the 10miler....a little less heated at the start of the half and you will have agood indicator of where your at. those pregression runs are tough, not sure i could handle them myself but they would stand to ya!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,237 ✭✭✭Abhainn


    Jaymack75 that was a great result in the 10 miler considering the really long stuff you've been doing. With 10 weeks to go you have loads of time to make your 2:50 a realistic target

    Interesting how your HR fell for last 5 miles even as your miles were slower. Did you pull back from 6th to 5th gear ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    seanynova wrote: »
    hey, sorry for the late reply..but it does seem like you went out too fast in the 10miler....a little less heated at the start of the half and you will have agood indicator of where your at. those pregression runs are tough, not sure i could handle them myself but they would stand to ya!

    thanks seanynova - looking at the difference in the splits, I definitely went off too fast - painful lesson, but hopefully I've learned from it though.

    I actually don't find the progression runs that bad. Sure it gets tough towards the end, but at least the speed is increasing......and you get to learn a bit of pacing-patience and how a pace feels when the legs get tired later on. I definitely need to do some more of those (and execute well on race day)
    Abhainn wrote:
    Jaymack75 that was a great result in the 10 miler considering the really long stuff you've been doing. With 10 weeks to go you have loads of time to make your 2:50 a realistic target

    I have to say I'm disappointed with missing sub-60, but considering how the wheels came off by half way, it's not too bad. I only need to go a slightly quicker pace to break 1:20 in the half in a few weeks.
    Interesting how your HR fell for last 5 miles even as your miles were slower. Did you pull back from 6th to 5th gear ?

    Basically, I think it was an enforced shutdown - the legs just said no! While it felt like I was at max effort, in reality I was getting slower and slower (about 6:30 pace). I couldn't push any harder even though I could see the heart rate dropping. Maybe I wasn't tough enough mentally to handle it? I had a similar perceived effort at the end of last weeks progression run where I was going about 5:50 pace - a much nicer way to run.


  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    Cycled to / from work 30 mins each

    Tues
    Cycled to work 30mins
    12k run home in 55:02
    No av hr as HRM readings were all over the place - been getting worse recently. I think I need a need a new hr strap

    Weds
    am: 12k run to work in 58:55 av 138

    Thurs
    Rest Day


    Fri
    Cycled to / from work 30 mins each


    Sat
    11k run 46:04 including 8k threshold in 30:45 no hr


    Sun
    2 laps of a 14k loop. Been a while since I did this run. Went for the simple approach of no drinks or gels etc - just running, so kept it gentle for the first lap and then raised it a bit on the 2nd. Happy to get this distance under the belt and hopefully will repeat again next weekend.

    1st loop 14k in 1:06:51 av 134
    2nd loop 14k in 1:02:18 av 144
    total 28k run in 2:09:09 av hr 139

    weekly run total : 63k


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  • Registered Users Posts: 253 ✭✭jaymack75


    Mon
    cycled to/from work 30 mins each

    Tues
    cycled to/ from work 30 mins each
    8k run in 37:57, incl some 200's and 400's on the track w/200 recovery jog after each. Wind was savage!

    4 x 200 in 38.6, 36.5, 36.7, 37.0
    1 x 400 in 79.8
    2 x 200 in 40.1, 38.2
    2 x 400 in 84.8, 81.8

    Weds
    cycled to /from work 30 mins each
    8k run in 33:03, incl 4k in 14:51 on the track
    Did this as a continuous progression run with each 400 getting a bit quicker. Splits were:

    93.3, 93.5, 91.7, 88.4, 89.5, 88.7, 87.2, 87.8, 87.7, 83.7

    quads a bit sore after Tuesday's session, but I suppose I'm not too used to the faster speeds yet


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