NOTW/News Intl. controversy MEGATHREAD

mike65

Still won't buy it

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world

News International today announces that this Sunday, 10 July 2011, will be the last issue of the News of the World.

Making the announcement to staff, James Murdoch, Deputy Chief Operating Officer, News Corporation, and Chairman, News International said: "I have important things to say about the News of the World and the steps we are taking to address the very serious problems that have occurred.

It is only right that you as colleagues at News International are first to hear what I have to say and that you hear it directly from me. So thank you very much for coming here and listening.

You do not need to be told that The News of the World is 168 years old. That it is read by more people than any other English language newspaper. That it has enjoyed support from Britain's largest advertisers. And that it has a proud history of fighting crime, exposing wrong-doing and regularly setting the news agenda for the nation.

When I tell people why I am proud to be part of News Corporation, I say that our commitment to journalism and a free press is one of the things that sets us apart. Your work is a credit to this.

The good things the News of the World does, however, have been sullied by behaviour that was wrong. Indeed, if recent allegations are true, it was inhuman and has no place in our Company.

The News of the World is in the business of holding others to account. But it failed when it came to itself.

Can anyone think of something remotely comparable to this?

steelcityblues

This is good news, as far as I am concerned.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

And that it has a proud history of fighting crime, exposing wrong-doing and regularly setting the news agenda for the nation.

Ironic.

May it be the first of many tabloids to disappear. Amen.

calex71

Good riddance to that rag, sorry for peoples jobs though.

carrolls

Wasn't that the rag that printed "Bloody Irish" in big black letters on the front page after the Mountbatten murder?

Lapin

News of the World.

Rot In Pain

And good riddance to bad rubbish.

Corsendonk

What was its Irish Sales like and who will benefit? The Slutty World? I can see Murdoch dig up some now dead title and use that name for 6 months until Joe Soap forgets about the tapping.

heybaby

The Sun is to be published 7 days a week, the Sunday Sun was registered as a trademark on JULY 5TH, So the decision to close NOTW is strategic and not being done out of any sense of wrong doing by journalists at the newspaper.

Dynch

Nice it's going but I reckon it's at least partly a cynical ploy to avoid some of the penalties and awards which are bound to arise from a plethora of civil cases. They will be straight back again with the same sleaze and ammorality in just a few minutes. Please, will people just stop buying any rag that Murdock publishes, owns or controls. Please?

calex71

Corsendonk wrote: »

What was its Irish Sales like and who will benefit? The Slutty World? I can see Murdoch dig up some now dead title and use that name for 6 months until Joe Soap forgets about the tapping.

#3 in the sundays here according the the news there, 130,000 readers.

I'm no fan of the sunday world either, but at least it isn't a UK tabloid pretending to be irish by added the word Irish to the cover

Edit: Actually I recall once in a job where we were in the office on sunday and a polish guy went out for a paper and came back with the News of the World, after reading it for a few minutes came over confused saying "how is this an irish paper" ????? lol

IRE60

Corsendonk wrote: »

What was its Irish Sales like and who will benefit? The Slutty World? I can see Murdoch dig up some now dead title and use that name for 6 months until Joe Soap forgets about the tapping.

113,000 copies
SW will be a benefactor. Mirror will pick up a bit, as will the people. A lot will go into the ether.
It's timing is so unfortunate for the now defunct Sunday Daily Star

calex71

IRE60 wrote: »

113,000 copies
SW will be a benefactor. Mirror will pick up a bit, as will the people. A lot will go into the ether.
It's timing is so unfortunate for the now defunct Sunday Daily Star

I was just thinking the same there, the news of the worlds end really could have kept them afloat. Wasn't a great paper but far from being a bad one though.

IRE60

the better of a bad lot - if such a thing exists.

Murdock is more concerned with his takeover of Sky than the jobs on the NoW

Latest Circulation Figures below:
http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/print/101804-irish-newspaper-circulations-may-2011


Readership:
http://www.ilevel.ie/media-blog/print/10826-jnrs-2010

bastados

a rag

Corsendonk

Will Murdoch try using the Sunday Times this weekend to spread the blame since numerous journalists have mentioned that paying police for information is common practice in the UK.

Lapin

calex71 wrote: »

Good riddance to that rag, sorry for peoples jobs though.

Sorry for the backroom staff.
No sympathy whatsoever for the so called journalists.

In any case, all will probably be re-employed in the Sun on Sunday if it comes to fruition.

carrolls wrote: »

Wasn't that the rag that printed "Bloody Irish" in big black letters on the front page after the Mountbatten murder?

Most headlines appear in 'big black letters' and given the emotive outcry at the time of Mountbatten's murder it was probably appropriate.

Inflammatory and provocative yes.

But appropriate and understandable in relation to the readership of the News of the World and the mood of the British nation at that time.

jimmynokia

news of the world has closed

http://bit.ly/qv27gm

Fogra

That's Bertie out of a job then. Haha!

dartbhoy

A rag of a paper! No doubt that gangster Murdoch has something else planned. I bet Paul Williams is sorry he left the Sunday World now!

IRE60

Fogra wrote: »

That's Bertie out of a job then. Haha!

Once more unto the fridge dear friends

Denerick

In what must be a horrifying moment for idiots, bigots, neanderthals, chavs and cretins, from this sunday the News of the World shall be no more.

Good riddance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-murdoch

Mr.Micro

Denerick wrote: »

In what must be a horrifying moment for idiots, bigots, neanderthals, chavs and cretins, from this sunday the News of the World shall be no more.

Good riddance.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jul/07/news-of-the-world-murdoch

It has been suggested that there will be a Sun, 7 days a week to fill the gap. So perhaps a cynical response by News Corp. to make good from bad very bad.

Run_to_da_hills

They have removed the subscription lock from its on line version.

They should be paying people to read it now.

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/notw/_news/1340740/Bon-Jovi-legend-Richie-Samboras-beauty-is-hooker.html

Black Swan

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deanh

More correctly, whoever ghostwrites Bertie's column is now out of work.

michael999999

Lets hope the s*n follows shortly!

super_furry

michael999999 wrote: »

Lets hope the s*n follows shortly!

Hardly. The Sunday Sun will be released within two months. Murdoch needs the heat off him so he can buy BSkyB, as soon at that deal is done, it'll be business as usual.

A Dub in Glasgo

Surely the British Government will see through this bull. It is not good for democracy when the UK PM is 'good friends' with News Internationals CEO and the ex editor of the NotW when they were hacking into everyones voicemails.

There must be a lot of people in the UK establishment who are afraid of what the Murdoch has on them.

IRE60

From Mediaweek:

The News of the World is pulling all advertising from its issue this weekend after losing a raft of advertisers in the wake of allegations over its phone hacking activities.

steelcityblues

A Dub in Glasgo wrote: »

Surely the British Government will see through this bull. It is not good for democracy when the UK PM is 'good friends' with News Internationals CEO and the ex editor of the NotW when they were hacking into everyones voicemails.

There must be a lot of people in the UK establishment who are afraid of what the Murdoch has on them.

The ones who are so desperate to be Prime Minister, or even a Cabinet minister one day, will keep their traps shut.

In other words, the vast majority of MPs. :rolleyes:

Run_to_da_hills

IRE60 wrote: »

From Mediaweek:

The News of the World is pulling all advertising from its issue this weekend after losing a raft of advertisers in the wake of allegations over its phone hacking activities.

The final issue of NOTW will be a collectors edition.

VampiricPadraig

I thought newspapers died like 10 years ago when the internet was created.

Ah well (Goes to skynews.com lol)

steelcityblues

That idiot Jon Gaunt getting all emotional for his Murdoch colleagues on BBC now!

IRE60

Run_to_da_hills wrote: »

The final issue of NOTW will be a collectors edition.

I have a small boy (V small). Will be out to collect a collectors edition for him Sunday!

IRE60

steelcityblues wrote: »

That idiot Jon Gaunt getting all emotional for his Murdoch colleagues on BBC now!

Sorry to double up in the posts, I actually like him - and, ironically, he only ever worked for the digital side of News Int! Maybe he's well versed for the future

steelcityblues

IRE60 wrote: »

Sorry to double up in the posts, I actually like him - and, ironically, he only ever worked for the digital side of News Int! Maybe he's well versed for the future

Was once a 'Scum' columnist. Don't like him.

Snickers Man

A breathtakingly cynical move.

The difference between the Sunday Sun and the NOTW will be about the same as that between Windscale and Sellafield, or Long Kesh and The Maze. It's standard practice: when a business gets a bad name....Rebrand.

amacachi

calex71 wrote: »

Good riddance to that rag, sorry for peoples jobs though.

That's a little like feeling sorry for the people who just do the accounting for the Taleban. They're all part of it.

Benny_Cake

i genuinely take no pleasure in seeing people turfed out of their jobs. That said, after re-reading the Rupert Murdoch chapter in John Pilger's "Hidden Agendas" maybe I should save my sympathy to qll the people who've been hurt by Murdoch's publications over the years. NOTW is gone but the style of "journalism" it represents will live on sadly.

JP Liz V1

NOTW was always the Sunday's Sun anyways :rolleyes:

Scotty #

I'm not sorry to see the back of it but I do think the whole thing has been blown a bit out of proportion.

If people bothered to change their default voicemail passwords (how many here are still 0000?) this wouldn't have happened.

On the scale of bad things you can do to a person, reading their voice mail is extremely low on the list. What's getting people here is that victims of crime and atrocities are involved. If it had only been footballers and politicians I don't think people would really care.

Guillaume

Bad news for brainless people, NOW is closing down. But what about this piece of s...it called in Ireland "the daily star" ? Ok, The Star is not as offensive as The Sun or N.O.T.W. But it is still a very very very bad paper, totally opportunist, and being popular in a sense : people are stupid let give them something stupid....

flogen

What exactly is your point? The Star should close down because you don't like it?

Guillaume

"I don't like it" yes for sure. I despise it even. No, I just wonder of the future of Tabloids now. I think they had been teaching a lesson there. All of them including The Star.

IRE60

I'm with flogen there - what (outside a rant) is the exact point.

And no, the 'tabloids' are not going to tumble like a deck of cards. In Ireland they make up 41% of the morning circulation and 47% on a Sunday (well prior to the NoW closure). So they are not exactly a niche product with those numbers.

I also think that it would be foolish to think that 'sharp practice' in only conducted by tabloids.

flogen

Guillaume wrote: »

"I don't like it" yes for sure. I despise it even. No, I just wonder of the future of Tabloids now. I think they had been teaching a lesson there. All of them including The Star.

OK, but you do realise the News of the World didn't close down because it was unpopular, don't you?

Guillaume

flogen wrote: »

OK, but you do realise the News of the World didn't close down because it was unpopular, don't you?

You think I am born yesterday ? :rolleyes:

Guillaume

IRE60 wrote: »

I'm with flogen there - what (outside a rant) is the exact point.

And no, the 'tabloids' are not going to tumble like a deck of cards. In Ireland they make up 41% of the morning circulation and 47% on a Sunday (well prior to the NoW closure). So they are not exactly a niche product with those numbers.

I also think that it would be foolish to think that 'sharp practice' in only conducted by tabloids.

Oh that's all right then ! As soon as The Star is making "41 %" of the morning circulation and nearly half on a Sunday, it is ok to circulate crap all over the country. Give s...it to the people to eat, as soon as they are not starving. :eek:

PCPhoto

if you don't like it - don't buy it !!

and more importantly ...don't read it - how can you claim they are a bad bad bad paper ....simple thing to do STOP READING IT !!

IRE60

Guillaume wrote: »

You think I am born yesterday ? :rolleyes:

I'll hold off on that one...

Guillaume wrote: »

Oh that's all right then ! As soon as The Star is making "41 %" of the morning circulation and nearly half on a Sunday, it is ok to circulate crap all over the country. Give s...it to the people to eat, as soon as they are not starving. :eek:

I said tabloids, not The Star alone, tabloids collectively.

Guillaume

PCPhoto wrote: »

if you don't like it - don't buy it !!

and more importantly ...don't read it - how can you claim they are a bad bad bad paper ....simple thing to do STOP READING IT !!

Don't worry I don't buy this piece of toilet paper. I came along to it from time to time though, at work or somewhere else. Not to mention I read or to say "see" their headlines at the local shop.

But trust me, the News of the world scandal WILL affect them.