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that hill,tl;dr

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  • 07-07-2011 10:59pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭


    One day,starting at Eight o clock,you go up a hill ,sometimes running and sometimes walking and it takes 12 hours, you spend the night on the hill top.
    Next day,starting at Eight o clock, you start back down, sometimes running ,some times walking and it takes 12 hour again
    Is there a place where you were at the the same place at the same time on both days?
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  • Registered Users Posts: 12,437 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    If the OP runs up a hill and nobody is there to see it.................does anybody give a fúck


  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭spirit_77


    huh


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    housetypeb wrote: »
    One day,starting at Eight o clock,you go up a hill ,sometimes running and sometimes walking and it takes 12 hours, you spend the night on the hill top.
    Next day,starting at Eight o clock, you start back down, sometimes running ,some times walking and it takes 12 hour again
    Is there a place where you were at the the same place at the same time on both days?

    Obviously, yes.
    Dean09 wrote: »
    If the OP runs up a hill and nobody is there to see it.................does anybody give a fúck

    Clearly, no.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 449 ✭✭Emiko


    Maybe.

    Depends what speeds and times you run and walk at.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭MungBean


    Is there a place where you were at the the same place at the same time on both days?

    On the hill.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,946 ✭✭✭Banjaxed82


    Surely if it took you 12 hours to get up the hill, GOING DOWN would take considerably less.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭westendgirlie


    You reach the top at 8 and descend at 8 ???


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,040 ✭✭✭stevejr


    that hill,tl;dr


    I thoght this was a Nazi thread (read title slowly)

    What's the reason for being reasonable?

    Is that an unreasonable question?



  • Registered Users Posts: 182 ✭✭spirit_77


    oh its a riddle i thought it was a load of rubbish :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭housetypeb


    Dean09 wrote: »
    If the OP runs up a hill and nobody is there to see it.................does anybody give a fúck

    Only the op gives a ****-what do you think he was doing alone on the hill top?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Being imprecise about the "sometimes running, sometimes walking" means you can't say, no? You could cover 90% of the distance in 10% of the time going up, or 80/20 etc. and do something different on the way down.

    Go out and do it OP and report back. Try it lots of times at different paces. We'll wait here, promise.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,933 ✭✭✭holystungun9


    Is it the middle one?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,054 ✭✭✭SadieSue




  • Registered Users Posts: 28,466 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You set off at 8 am and get to the top at 8 pm, the next day you dont start down till 8pm so you are at the top of the hill at the same time both days.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,224 ✭✭✭robman60


    housetypeb wrote: »
    One day,starting at Eight o clock,you go up a hill ,sometimes running and sometimes walking and it takes 12 hours, you spend the night on the hill top.
    Next day,starting at Eight o clock, you start back down, sometimes running ,some times walking and it takes 12 hour again
    Is there a place where you were at the the same place at the same time on both days?
    Not necessarily. If there is no regularity to your walking and running, and your stints running/walking are indefinite lengths of time, then you won't necessarily be in the same place at the same time.

    Speed is also a variable, but even if we presume that your walking speed is always uniform, and your running speed is also uniform, the time of each period of running/walking is still a variable component.

    The only way that you'd end up in the same place at the same spot both days is if you are going at the exact same speed(s) for the same lengths of time, otherwise, the presence of variables will not allow this to happen.

    Another alternative is that you go slowly for a certain period, more slowly than "yourself from the day before". You could still end up in the same spot if you "caught up" to yourself from the day before and passed "yourself" out. At the moment in time where you are both at the exact same place, you will also be there at the same time.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭whatdoicare


    Is it seven? Did I win?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,164 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    housetypeb wrote: »
    One day,starting at Eight o clock,you go up a hill ,sometimes running and sometimes walking and it takes 12 hours, you spend the night on the hill top.
    Next day,starting at Eight o clock, you start back down, sometimes running ,some times walking and it takes 12 hour again
    Is there a place where you were at the the same place at the same time on both days?

    Yes. You must.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,900 ✭✭✭General General


    robman60 wrote: »
    Not necessarily. If there is no regularity to your walking and running, and your stints running/walking are indefinite lengths of time, then you won't necessarily be in the same place at the same time.

    Speed is also a variable, but even if we presume that your walking speed is always uniform, and your running speed is also uniform, the time of each period of running/walking is still a variable component.

    The only way that you'd end up in the same place at the same spot both days is if you are going at the exact same speed(s) for the same lengths of time, otherwise, the presence of variables will not allow this to happen.

    Another alternative is that you go slowly for a certain period, more slowly than "yourself from the day before". You could still end up in the same spot if you "caught up" to yourself from the day before and passed "yourself" out. At the moment in time where you are both at the exact same place, you will also be there at the same time.

    What is this? I don't even


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 965 ✭✭✭johnr1


    looksee wrote: »
    You set off at 8 am and get to the top at 8 pm, the next day you dont start down till 8pm so you are at the top of the hill at the same time both days.

    Right answer.
    move along folks, nothing to see here.

    robman60 wrote: »
    Not necessarily. If there is no regularity to your walking and running, and your stints running/walking are indefinite lengths of time, then you won't necessarily be in the same place at the same time.

    Speed is also a variable, but even if we presume that your walking speed is always uniform, and your running speed is also uniform, the time of each period of running/walking is still a variable component.

    The only way that you'd end up in the same place at the same spot both days is if you are going at the exact same speed(s) for the same lengths of time, otherwise, the presence of variables will not allow this to happen.

    Another alternative is that you go slowly for a certain period, more slowly than "yourself from the day before". You could still end up in the same spot if you "caught up" to yourself from the day before and passed "yourself" out. At the moment in time where you are both at the exact same place, you will also be there at the same time.

    Jesus I'd hate to have had you as a teacher.....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Yes. You must.

    Care to 'splain?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,164 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    johnr1 wrote: »
    Right answer.
    move along folks, nothing to see here.

    He starts down at 8 am on the second day.
    Care to 'splain?

    Certainly. Imagine he has a brother. One starts up at 8 am and one starts down at 8 am. No matter what speed they each do they must pass each other. At that moment they are at the same place at the same time.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,372 ✭✭✭im invisible


    that hill, too long, didnt run?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,330 ✭✭✭Gran Hermano


    Sisyphus, is that you?


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,466 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    He starts down at 8 am on the second day.

    Where does it say that?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    Pherekydes wrote: »


    Certainly. Imagine he has a brother. One starts up at 8 am and one starts down at 8 am. No matter what speed they each do they must pass each other. At that moment they are at the same place at the same time.

    That's not an answer. If they repeated it again the following day it would be possible for them to pass at a different place unless pace was exactly the same on both occasions. In the description, that's not given so it can't be assumed. In fact, the pace is inconsistent as described. The 8am/8pm solution also can't be, 'cos it's not given, unless the solution is just to assume the OP has written it half-arsed.

    I think the OP was on a managment course today and remembered half the question, or is stuck helping a child with homework and didn't understand it. He's trying to get the answer by troll and error.....get me coat, I know....


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,466 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    The 8am/8pm solution also can't be, 'cos it's not given, unless the solution is just to assume the OP has written it half-arsed.

    What do you mean? What's not given?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    looksee wrote: »
    What do you mean? What's not given?

    I mean he specifies "8 o'clock" and "spend the night on top", not "night and day on top". If the solution is that it's 8am/8pm, then it's not an ever-so-clever problem, it's just shít.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,466 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Evidently you are not very familiar with puzzles and riddles. Working on the facts given and not assuming anything, the 8am/8pm answer is perfectly correct:D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,439 ✭✭✭Kevin Duffy


    looksee wrote: »
    Evidently you are not very familiar with puzzles and riddles. Working on the facts given and not assuming anything, the 8am/8pm answer is perfectly correct:D

    I'm very familar with them and recognise a badly written one when I see it. If that is the correct solution, it's a fúcking dull problem.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,455 ✭✭✭Where To


    Between 8pm and 8am you're at the top i.e on both days.




    First serious answer i ever gave on here:rolleyes:


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