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WHO SHOULD BE THE MAIN PROVIDER FOR A HOUSE?

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,300 ✭✭✭HazDanz


    OP you are as Hall & Oates once said Out of Touch.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    WHO SHOULD BE THE MAIN PROVIDER FOR A HOUSE?

    Why does there have to be MAIN provider?
    What's wrong with all equally trying to provide?

    Outdated, backward thinking right from the get-go!

    I didn't vote - to do so would be supporting stupidity of an outmoded idea.

    OP... there's a phone call for you. The 1850's wants you back home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Main provider? UPC do both broadband and phone line to a good standard. Perlico then should be your next option. Avoid Eircom ;)


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    Main provider? UPC do both broadband and phone line to a good standard. Perlico then should be your next option. Avoid Eircom ;)
    :pac:

    ...And Wimax! :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    Biggins wrote: »
    :pac:

    ...And Wimax! :D

    I purposely left them out. Hate their fcuking advert so much :mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,751 ✭✭✭Saila


    aaronh007 wrote: »
    I purposely left them out. Hate their fcuking advert so much :mad:

    very catchy tune though ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭investment


    The results are supporting my question, what do you think now haters?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 453 ✭✭dashboard_hula


    investment wrote: »
    The results are supporting my question, what do you think now haters?

    That you're drunk?
    That English isn't your first language?
    That you have some lovely views on domestic relationships which were last in vogue in 1953?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,283 ✭✭✭Glico Man


    "I got a call from Vodafone
    trying to sell me broadband and home
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    :D

    You're going to hell for that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    It sounds like an outdated question - but I'm not sure that it's one that's totally not based in today's reality. It's all very well saying that it's a stupid question & that the 1950s want their thread back, but I think that a lot of men still feel like they should be the protector & provider and that many women like to fill the role of nurturer & want to be protected by their man.

    Times & ideas change, but some things remain the same and a lot of people still feel that way. I think that's a natural thing.

    To say that it doesn't still exist, would be to ignore the stark reality of recent years where many young men have taken their own lives after losing their jobs. The same statistics don't apply to women. And men have a much greater tendency to lean towards depression than women after losing a job.

    The other side of the coin, of course is that in the modern world where - for the most part - men & women have equal access to the workplace, it really shouldn't matter who the main bread winner is.

    But sometimes it matter to some people. So in that respect, it's not really a stupid thread, or a stupid question, but one worthy of some debate.

    The poll is a bit limited though. Nothing is ever black or white, male or female & neither should the poll be!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 573 ✭✭✭investment


    That English isn't your first language?

    I'm more irish that most people on this website FYI:mad:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,582 ✭✭✭✭TheZohanS


    investment wrote: »
    I'm more irish that most people on this website FYI:mad:

    Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,239 ✭✭✭✭WindSock


    TheZohan wrote: »
    Have you really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

    you gotta be kidding. Of course he's been as far even decided to use even go want to do more look like for some time now.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,872 ✭✭✭strobe


    Neither obviously...

    Whoever can capitalise the most letters shall lead the household! So it is written!!!


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    investment wrote: »
    I'm more irish that most people on this website FYI:mad:

    how more Irish.....we all love statistics,percentages crap like that...


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    investment wrote: »
    The results are supporting my question, what do you think now haters?
    ...That a lot of wrongs - don't make a right!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    mattjack wrote: »
    how more Irish.....we all love statistics,percentages crap like that...

    90% of us don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    90% of us don't.

    thats cause you,re not more Irish..


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    mattjack wrote: »
    thats cause you,re not more Irish..

    I'm 17% more Irish than I was when I was 12.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    jesus wept...look how many posts some of you got.......


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    plz Santa can I have some posts for christmas


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,739 ✭✭✭✭starbelgrade


    mattjack wrote: »
    jesus wept...look how many posts some of you got.......

    I only post when I'm drunk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,389 ✭✭✭mattjack


    we,re gone a bit off topic here...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,739 ✭✭✭johnmcdnl


    whoever makes more money..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,288 ✭✭✭✭Standard Toaster


    Women, Know Your place!





    Etc


    Whatever is most viable for the household of course.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    probably the lads that can't cut it shouting the loudest about equality etc. The whole equality thing seems to be a bit of a wusses charter. If the woman wants to work great, but if she dont wanna, she shouldn't have to, and I know a lot of women who have to drag themselves and their kids down to the creche at 7.00 in the morning so they can get to work, because their lazy azzed fella is just too laid back to go git the dollah. Its gotta be said. Man up boys.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,096 ✭✭✭✭the groutch


    anyone who votes in that poll is sexist imo
    the "main provider" should always be coincidental, as a result of whoever's studies and hard work results in the higher paying job


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 371 ✭✭whatswhat


    investment wrote: »
    Should it be the male or the female of the house?

    I see alot of guys marrying average looking girls with good jobs. which traditional was never seen before now. It was always the better looking women, and man being the provider of the house.

    Shallow Hal or what!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,297 ✭✭✭Jaxxy


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    probably the lads that can't cut it shouting the loudest about equality etc. The whole equality thing seems to be a bit of a wusses charter. If the woman wants to work great, but if she dont wanna, she shouldn't have to, and I know a lot of women who have to drag themselves and their kids down to the creche at 7.00 in the morning so they can get to work, because their lazy azzed fella is just too laid back to go git the dollah. Its gotta be said. Man up boys.

    Ah come off it. In many cases people don't have a choice. Not everyone can afford to say "Oh, I don't want to work anymore, support me while I do nothing, honey." And the boys have to "man up" just because this isn't an option for them? A man might have an average paying job or an average career but this does not make him any less of a man. At least not in my eyes.

    Having children and maintaining a household is a very expensive business, and even people commanding generous salaries can struggle.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 173 ✭✭decembersun77


    I would say in Ireland it's mostly women who are in control of the hosue, they make all the discisions etc. Most Irish women I know are controlling and domineering some of them are very masculine.

    Anyways many Irish men NOT all are very wimpy and sissy. They gossip whinge, complain and talk about people behind their back. Alot of them are no men at all. I have a great example of this I was flying back from spain last year, there was a group of Irish guys late 20s- early 30s waiting for the same flight as mine..it was announced the flight was delayed at 10 mins before the departure time, you couldn't not not hear them, they whinged among themselves about the plane being delayed, a few of them were also complaining that they were feeling under the weather because of being out the night before. Everyone waiting for the plane was tired and fed up but everyone got on with it, its normal for flights to be delayed, it happens. There was mothers there with young children and babies and older people, it was a lot harder on them and a group of grown men whinging about nothing that hasn't happen before.

    Then when our flight time came in it was announced that it would be leaving at another gate a bit up from were all the people were waiting and all those guys did was winge about that the whole way on til they got on the plane. What is wrong with them, sad excuses for men behaving like little spoilt children


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 35,514 ✭✭✭✭efb


    Well hopefully when I get CPed to my consultant doctor -who works long hours while I'm lunching and sh@gging the young fit Gardner- he'll keep me in a lifestyle I could easily grow accustomed!

    He's a man, I'm a man, I'll make the Gardner a man ;-) - so I vote Male!

    Who is this 'Female' the OP speaks of???


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    investment wrote: »
    The results are supporting my question, what do you think now haters?

    That out of 2000 people viewing the thread, only 100 bothered to vote?

    That your poll only gave two options, while a lot of people would have liked options like:
    3) Both.
    4) Who cares?
    5) Why is the title of the thread shouting at me?
    6) This is a troll thread.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 176 ✭✭Aurum


    investment wrote: »
    The results are supporting my question, what do you think now haters?

    I'm sure if you had included a 3rd "Whatever works for the couple" option it'd be winning by a mile. And I'm not a hater, just a bemused pitier. Also, your original post seems to suggest that men should only marry women who are both beautiful and useless. Surely this would leave quite a lot of people, of both sexes, without partners. In response to the question, it should be a question of balancing; do the couple have children, what are their respective earning powers and what would make either person happiest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,732 ✭✭✭Toby Take a Bow


    Solnskaya wrote: »
    probably the lads that can't cut it shouting the loudest about equality etc. The whole equality thing seems to be a bit of a wusses charter. If the woman wants to work great, but if she dont wanna, she shouldn't have to, and I know a lot of women who have to drag themselves and their kids down to the creche at 7.00 in the morning so they can get to work, because their lazy azzed fella is just too laid back to go git the dollah. Its gotta be said. Man up boys.

    It's equality due to necessity. It's great that you can work enough to support your wife if she doesn't want to work, but that wouldn't be the case for the vast majority of people who are married that I know anyway.

    If your wife could earn more money than you, while spending less time at her job, would you do that? Or would this impact negatively on the Daddy tag that you gave yourself?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,181 ✭✭✭bryaner


    investment wrote: »
    People should not go off topic, No its a typo I made on my phone, GET OVER IT!!

    Maybe learn how to type on your phone so, get over it.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,463 ✭✭✭Solnskaya


    It's equality due to necessity. It's great that you can work enough to support your wife if she doesn't want to work, but that wouldn't be the case for the vast majority of people who are married that I know anyway.

    If your wife could earn more money than you, while spending less time at her job, would you do that? Or would this impact negatively on the Daddy tag that you gave yourself?
    when we first got married, my wife earned far, far more than me and had her own career. That continued until we had our second kid when she decided that she wanted to give up work and look after the kids as the childminder thing was getting to be a total pain. Her attitude was pretty much:here's what we need to bring in to live comfortably sunshine, go get it. I reckon a lot of women are the same and expect a certain standard from their partner. Others might just shut up and take up the slack themselves, but I doubt if there are too many totally happy relationships where the woman has to slog to keep the family together while the man kicks back. It just goes against the grain. edit, I'm not trolling, this is just my view on it, probably old-fashioned, but there it is.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,617 ✭✭✭Cat Melodeon


    So far in my relationship I have provided regular income, a house, dogs and a baby. I'm currently providing the use of my innards for a a second. My husband provides regular income. We both provide cooking and cleaning duties. Although he earns more money than me, I consider myself the main provider, unless he starts shíttíng out real live humans any time soon in which case he can assume the title.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    So far in my relationship I have provided regular income, a house, dogs and a baby.

    Do the dogs come out head first or tail?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 31 Westcoast Thugs


    the irish government


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,252 ✭✭✭✭stovelid


    It's 2011.

    You make a rational decision based on who earns what whether that means two partners or one partner.

    The gender being irrelevant.


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