Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

Blackjack

That's a disaster for Mayos hopes, but more importantly lets hope Andy recovers fully from this.

Defiler Of The Coffin

I gladly would have sacrificed a few points yesterday if we could have kept Andy

Otherwise a fine performance by Mayo. They won every single ball and the full-forwards have made amends for the Sligo match. No doubt we'll give the Dubs a good game!

Fowler87

****ing awful news. Sort of knew from Andy's reaction when he went off down the tunnel that was it for him this year Big challenge made even tougher for Mayo now

yop

Not good news for us that.
He gives us so many options, but we have 3 weeks to devise a different system.

We have a number of options now from what I can see.

We have a bench, Freeman or Varley, pick either to go into the corner.

Change the system, we can move in Moran/McGar/Seam O'Shea/Gerathy into fullforward and have the corners feeding off him.

Change the system, move O'Connor into fullforward, has done well in there, put in Gerarthy/Feeney into centre half, this would also counteract the Dub surge through the middle and offer a bit more power.

Murphy lad from BRobe, this lad seems to be doing very well and has played in the A v B match during the week and did well, worth a shot from the bench even.

Brain Stroking

yop wrote: »

Not good news for us that.
He gives us so many options, but we have 3 weeks to devise a different system.

We have a number of options now from what I can see.

We have a bench, Freeman or Varley, pick either to go into the corner.

Change the system, we can move in Moran/McGar/Seam O'Shea/Gerathy into fullforward and have the corners feeding off him.

Change the system, move O'Connor into fullforward, has done well in there, put in Gerarthy/Feeney into centre half, this would also counteract the Dub surge through the middle and offer a bit more power.

Murphy lad from BRobe, this lad seems to be doing very well and has played in the A v B match during the week and did well, worth a shot from the bench even.

I'd move Cillian O'Connor into full forward (not convinced about him on the 40 anyways) and move O'Shea to centre forward simply because i dont think he has the running ability to match Bastick and especially McAuley. Stick Geraghty in midfield.

Wouldnt be happy playing Varley or Freeman. They arent good enough for that level in my opinion and we'll need to be very clinical upfront against the Dubs.

Fowler87

Wouldn't move Moran now especially the way he has performed in midfield. Conroy could have a big role now

yop

Fowler87 wrote: »

Wouldn't move Moran now especially the way he has performed in midfield. Conroy could have a big role now

Agree totally, he had a great 2nd half and I think he has the shoulders to move up another step for us.

Brain Stroking wrote: »

I'd move Cillian O'Connor into full forward (not convinced about him on the 40 anyways) and move O'Shea to centre forward simply because i dont think he has the running ability to match Bastick and especially McAuley. Stick Geraghty in midfield.

Wouldnt be happy playing Varley or Freeman. They arent good enough for that level in my opinion and we'll need to be very clinical upfront against the Dubs.

Unfortunately neither have what it takes, Murphy has to be worth a punt.

padd b1975

Bring back Mortimer:)

mayo_lad

padd b1975 wrote: »

Bring back Mortimer:)

if your bringing back anyone it should be a performer not a person who's so full of his own ****e that he could'nt handle not starting , so i say bring back mac

plasmaguy

Relieved that Kerry are gone. They are about the only side Mayo fear in the championship, all others we have at least a 50-50 chance including Dublin.

Mortimor is physically too small for the business end of the championship. He just gets pushed around and as a full forward has absolutely no presence.

We need a 6'4" full forward not a 5'4" one.

Any chance Moran will be back for the final if we get there ?

Blackjack

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Any chance Moran will be back for the final if we get there ?

None, theres a statement from the county board earlier in the thread saying his season is over.

RealityCheck

Assuming Moran is missing, I still think Mayo could well take Dublin. If I was Horan I'd probably try and replace him with a target man and try and get O'Connor/Conroy/Doherty to feed off them. They'll need some variation against Dublin. You can't beat a mixed game imo.
Personally of all the teams left I'd like to see Mayo win, although I wouldn't put money on it. They've no reason to fear anyone and once thats the case they have a chance. If they match Dublin for intensity and have more hunger I'd give them a great chance in a months time.

Defiler Of The Coffin

plasmaguy wrote: »

Relieved that Kerry are gone. They are about the only side Mayo fear in the championship, all others we have at least a 50-50 chance including Dublin.

I don't agree unfortunately. *If* we get past Dublin I really wouldn't fancy our chances against Cork, not after the walloping they gave Kildare today. Also I would have doubts that our forward line could break down the Donegal defence, the Kerry forwards were starved of ball today. Couple that with Moran's loss we would be underdogs against either.

I'm quite confident we can beat Dublin, they didn't impress yesterday and missed an an awful lot of scorable points. They don't seem to have improved from last year at all.

Fowler87

No matter what happens against Dublin, all the Mayo begrudgers have been kept quiet for another year. Connacht titles and AI semi finals in James Horan two years in charge is real progess. He deserves great credit after the mess a couple years ago

yop

And a league final.

seligehgit

Just back from a joyous trip to the capital.Delighted with the results,minors were super.Only caught the second half of the minor game.
We were impressive but that was the worst Down team I have ever seen.Down's defence made us look like superstars,we kicked a lot of awful wides and conceded too much.We can't afford to be so open against Dublin,I do not think Keith Higgins and Donal Vaughan will be able to go rampaging forward to the same degree.Their hands shall be full and Dublin are well capable of cutting us open.Their first duty ak defending will be paramount.Having said that our defence and midfield are our stongest sectors.Barry Moran continues to flourish,caught some great clean ball,Aidan O' Shea made a big difference.Alan Dillon was magnificent!
Terrible news re Andy Moran after his previous injury,incalculable loss.Yes the Dubs were very poor but Alan Brogan will be back.He is a much a playmaker as Andy,he'll make a huge difference to the Dubs.Fearful our forwards will be our achilles heel against Dublin.
Any thoughts on the standard of football this weekend?Thought it was quite poor,too many unforced errors,pulling and dragging,cynical fouls and poor shooting.Cork looked by far the most impressive of the remaining contenders this weekend.

seligehgit

Some talk of Ronan McGarrity been drafted into midfield,Aidan O Shea centre half forward??

john mayo 10

Seamus o shea mite be a better option at center half forward.Mc Garrity isnt physical enough for midfield which is something A o Shea certainly offers

JayReale

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Seamus o shea mite be a better option at center half forward.Mc Garrity isnt physical enough for midfield which is something A o Shea certainly offers

Agree with this.... Surprised SO'S didn't get some game time on Saturday.

Do the Mayo fans feel Cian O'Neill's inclusion to the back room team has made a difference? i know for sure that fitness wise he was highly thought of in Tipperary and brought us on in leaps and bounds.

Blackjack

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Seamus o shea mite be a better option at center half forward.Mc Garrity isnt physical enough for midfield which is something A o Shea certainly offers

Yeah, I'd leave AOS where eye is, maybe put his brother up the front, it's one way of handling Dublin too, if the midfielders can do as they have been doing and lob high balls into the big lad (SOS) up front, could make all the difference. Not sure how good Seamus is in front of the posts but he certainly can catch it and if he's tasked to lay it off to the other forwards it might work. of course if he's able to score a point or 2, no harm either.

We don't have the capability to take points from way out, Dillon will be targeted to ensure he gets as little as possible, so they others will need to step up and one thing we don't appear to be able to do is shoot points from distance. Andy Moran and Alan Dillon are the only 2 forwards I've seen do that from our current batch.

Agree that McGarrity is not going to be the answer to our problems, the game has become a lot more physical and I just don't see him having the qualities we need right now. I'd look for someone new rather than go down that route.

JayReale

tipp_Gunner wrote: »

Do the Mayo fans feel Cian O'Neill's inclusion to the back room team has made a difference? i know for sure that fitness wise he was highly thought of in Tipperary and brought us on in leaps and bounds.

He certainly does seem to have made a difference Tipp_Gunner... Difficult to quantify exactly how much as they were going in the right direction last year. Fitness levels don't seem to be an issue.

JayReale

JayReale wrote: »

He certainly does seem to have made a difference Tipp_Gunner... Difficult to quantify exactly how much as they were going in the right direction last year. Fitness levels don't seem to be an issue.

Cian is a former Kildare and Moorefield footballer himself so i think his role with Mayo involves work with the football as much as anything id imagine

seligehgit

Blackjack wrote: »

Yeah, I'd leave AOS where eye is, maybe put his brother up the front, it's one way of handling Dublin too, if the midfielders can do as they have been doing and lob high balls into the big lad (SOS) up front, could make all the difference. Not sure how good Seamus is in front of the posts but he certainly can catch it and if he's tasked to lay it off to the other forwards it might work. of course if he's able to score a point or 2, no harm either.

We don't have the capability to take points from way out, Dillon will be targeted to ensure he gets as little as possible, so they others will need to step up and one thing we don't appear to be able to do is shoot points from distance. Andy Moran and Alan Dillon are the only 2 forwards I've seen do that from our current batch.

Agree that McGarrity is not going to be the answer to our problems, the game has become a lot more physical and I just don't see him having the qualities we need right now. I'd look for someone new rather than go down that route.

Totally agreed the other forwards are going to have up to the mark in terms of taking a point from a distance,very big concern.

Any truth in the rumors of Kieran McDonnell coming back? I assume not ?

Blackjack

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Any truth in the rumors of Kieran McDonnell coming back? I assume not ?

I'd say they're only rumours in fairness.

john mayo 10

i see thay the mayo minor match against meath is on the 26 august and the mayo senior match against dublin is on the 2 sept. that a rite fxxk up for supporters but done 2suit the dubs again

blackbelt

john mayo 10 wrote: »

i see thay the mayo minor match against meath is on the 26 august and the mayo senior match against dublin is on the 2 sept. that a rite fxxk up for supporters but done 2suit the dubs again

And pray tell me "How it is done to suit the Dubs again"?

Blackjack

john mayo 10 wrote: »

i see thay the mayo minor match against meath is on the 26 august and the mayo senior match against dublin is on the 2 sept. that a rite fxxk up for supporters but done 2suit the dubs again

Its actually how it rolled, because we beat Tipp, we effectively became "Munster champions" for the fixture list. Kerry became "Connaught champions" by virtue of beating Roscommon.

The fixtures wre decided in advance it was just how the winners of each province/ match up fell.

john mayo 10

blackbelt wrote: »

And pray tell me "How it is done to suit the Dubs again"?

both minor amd senior games that include dublin are on the same day and croke park on yer doorstep while mayo fans have to travel up to the capital twice n 8 days if they want to support mayo.im sure it could be changed if need be

prospect

john mayo 10 wrote: »

both minor amd senior games that include dublin are on the same day and croke park on yer doorstep while mayo fans have to travel up to the capital twice n 8 days if they want to support mayo.im sure it could be changed if need be

So then, it wasn't 'done to suit the Dubs', rather it wasn't 'undone to suit Mayo'.

Alaska1

john mayo 10 wrote: »

both minor amd senior games that include dublin are on the same day and croke park on yer doorstep while mayo fans have to travel up to the capital twice n 8 days if they want to support mayo.im sure it could be changed if need be

So putting the Mayo / Tipp Minor game last Saturday before the Mayo / Down Senior game in CROKE PARK while Dublin Minors played Monaghan in NEWRY on Sunday evening was to 'suit the Dubs also' ??

So you would like to ignore the fact that the draw for the minor games were set Munster /Connaught etc etc...

But don't let the facts get in the way of a good bit of bias there.

Fr Tod Umptious

seligehgit wrote: »

Totally agreed the other forwards are going to have up to the mark in terms of taking a point from a distance,very big concern.

At the half time analysis of the Down game on the TV Ciaran Whelan said that Sligo manager, Kevin Walsh, said that what Sligo did was try to prevent Mayo scoring early goals, beacuse Mayo go out and try to get early goals.

It certainly worked v Down but it will probably be much more difficult v Dublin.

I do not know that much about Dublin, but are they a team that Mayo can run at and get close to goal ?

If Mayo put enough pressure there it might free up Dillon further out to score points from distance.

But I may be totally off base.

blackbelt

john mayo 10 wrote: »

both minor amd senior games that include dublin are on the same day and croke park on yer doorstep while mayo fans have to travel up to the capital twice n 8 days if they want to support mayo.im sure it could be changed if need be

GAA Master Fixture List dictates when a team plays.If you have issues with travelling to support your team then don;t travel.We suited ourselves by winning the games we were fixed to play.Whatever way it fell for Mayo is up to yourselves.

SomethingElse

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Any truth in the rumors of Kieran McDonnell coming back? I assume not ?

If he doesn't get a call-up, the McDonald family are set to release a statement on the value of their precious boy, and how he's better than all the other boys on the team

Fr Tod Umptious

SomethingElse wrote: »

If he doesn't get a call-up, the McDonald family are set to release a statement on the value of their precious boy, and how he's better than all the other boys on the team

That McDonald talk is just crazy rumour that makes zero sense, and has zero credibility

Why bring in a guy in his 30s who has not featured for a few years when you have a bench full of forwards who should be chomping at the bit to go out and prove all of us who think they are not up to it wrong.

Two options

1. Keep Cillian O' Conor at half forward and put some combination of Doherty/Freeman/Varley/Conroy inside and hope they can step up.

2. Move Cillian o' Conor inside with some combiantion of Doherty/Freeman/Varley/Conroy and put Sheamus O' Shea at centre half forward. SOS can win ball there and feed it inside.

They cannot get it into their heads that they cannot win without Andy Moran, or else it becomes a self fulling prophesy and it also becomes and excuse if they loose.

Oh I can't wait !!!!

naughto

id have McDonnell on the bench no problem but id say its all ****1e talk

Fr Tod Umptious

naughto wrote: »

id have McDonnell on the bench no problem but id say its all ****1e talk

why ?

naughto

Fr Tod Umptious wrote: »

why ?

i cant see them bringing back some one whos is it 34/35 to the mayo setup.even if they do he would only be an inpact sub(last 20minsof the game)

Defiler Of The Coffin

Disappointed for the minors today. Thought we had them at half time but our 2nd half performance was poor. The Meath curse continues!

john mayo 10

jesus the ref was dire for the minor game got many decisions wrong including the penalty

Defiler Of The Coffin

john mayo 10 wrote: »

jesus the ref was dire for the minor game got many decisions wrong including the penalty

It's not the ref's fault only a single point was scored by Mayo in the 2nd half. Meath were rampant, very wasteful in the 2nd half, could have won by more

padd b1975

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

It's not the ref's fault only a single point was scored by Mayo in the 2nd half. Meath were rampant, very wasteful in the 2nd half, could have won by more

Mayo scored four points in the second half.

john mayo 10

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

It's not the ref's fault only a single point was scored by Mayo in the 2nd half. Meath were rampant, very wasteful in the 2nd half, could have won by more

i dont know what game u were watching .yes mayo had the game for the taking but when a ref seems hellbent on giving the other team every chance to win its not easy. colm o rourke on rte even said the ref was brutal and hes a feckin meath man

Defiler Of The Coffin

john mayo 10 wrote: »

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

It's not the ref's fault only a single point was scored by Mayo in the 2nd half. Meath were rampant, very wasteful in the 2nd half, could have won by more

i dont know what game u were watching .yes mayo had the game for the taking but when a ref seems hellbent on giving the other team every chance to win its not easy. colm o rourke on rte even said the ref was brutal and hes a feckin meath man

Mayo were completely outplayed in the last 25 minutes, yes the ref was brutal but Meath fought hard and Mayo simply had no answer. To blame it entirely on the ref is farcical. Meath should never have had them chances in the first place.

ColeTrain

john mayo 10 wrote: »

i dont know what game u were watching .yes mayo had the game for the taking but when a ref seems hellbent on giving the other team every chance to win its not easy. colm o rourke on rte even said the ref was brutal and hes a feckin meath man

The ref was brutal and like in 2009 ( won't bring up '96), Meath have beaten us with some very dodgy decisions going their way.

Still though you have to look at that 2nd half, we were poor. There was a 28 minute period where we didn't score. If we had taken a few points in that spell then it's game over and even the referee couldn't have changed it.
It's all a learning process though at minor level.

Seans_Username

john mayo 10 wrote: »

i dont know what game u were watching .yes mayo had the game for the taking but when a ref seems hellbent on giving the other team every chance to win its not easy. colm o rourke on rte even said the ref was brutal and hes a feckin meath man

haha I was thinking that maybe I was being a bit biased when I thought the ref was against Mayo, but when Joe Brolly, Pat Spillane and Colm O'Rourke were calling the ref brutal it reassured me a wee bit

There's 2 ways of looking at that loss:
1) They didn't score for 25 minutes in the second half when they should have continued the scoring run they had.
2) The ref lost the game for them. I mean a foot block?! Are ya fúckin serious? He was no-where near him to call that a foot block. Then the push out on the sideline before the penalty. And the pick-up off the ground before the second goal. I don't like giving refs abuse cos they get enough of it and it's a tough job. But they were some very strange decisions to give, no matter how difficult a ref's job is, the calls in today's game were blatantly wrong.

And 2 goals in the space of 5 minutes, was it? Meath missed a lot of chances earlier on, I didn't think they'd create - let alone score - 2 goals in that space of time

Hammer Archer

ColeTrain wrote: »

The ref was brutal and like in 2009 ( won't bring up '96), Meath have beaten us with some very dodgy decisions going their way.

Christ almighty :rolleyes:

ColeTrain

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Christ almighty :rolleyes:

Zombie Jesus Monkey Balls :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

^That sentence is better than your reply.