Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

crusier

Suarezistheman wrote: »

One must only view the head on Mr. Lundy in the wake of Leeroy getting a yellow card in the first minute to realise Galway knew exactly what they were at. Unfortunately messing with Mayo nowadays is folly of the highest order

David Clarke should have been sent off for striking comer, but you probably didn't see that with you tainted glasses!

naughto

He was swatting a fly on his back so he said.
You should probably go back to the Galway thread there a good lad

yop

crusier wrote: »

Fair hit, what you on about?

Nah, he lined him up, thought he would take him out, he didn't and Comer has gone home to mammy.

crusier wrote: »

David Clarke should have been sent off for striking comer, but you probably didn't see that with you tainted glasses!

Cormer bless him was a big man throughout the game, when he got touch he rolled and fell around, yet he came straight into the mid rift of McLoughlin, was 3rd man into the melee at the end dragging Keegan along the ground and was in like a little pup to all the other rows.

Galway didn't impress anyone on Sunday and were rightly called out for it.
And they aren't taking their loss too well now either listening to some of their fans.

ultrapercy

On the previous two occasions Mayo played Galway Mayo bullied Galway physically. Most of that physicality was within, but close to the boarder of the rules of the game. Galway are a work in progress but that type of physical conditioning(to match Mayo) cannot be built in a season so Galway plan was to niggle at and frustrate certain players. Boyle and Keegan were particular targets and it worked to a large degree with neither of those two players having their usual influence on the game. The problem with this type of approach is it boils over into real indiscipline throughout the team and the concession of frees.Had Galway played without the frustrating tactics Mayo would have ran out far easier winners than they did. Galway have some very decent footballers especially in their forward line, a few of which would make Mayo a strong All Ireland contender if they were available to them.Galway will continue to improve and will push up to the top tier of football very soon, they are the most likely connaught team to next win the All Ireland.

TCDStudent1

Galway have been criticised by their own fans in the last couple of years of "lying down against Mayo", or "not showing fight against Mayo". This is probably the greatest criticism a Gaelic football team can receive. In Galway football circles, there is an often repeated story of when before the throw-in, a Mayo forward shouldered a Galway defender to the ground 2 years ago and the Galway back did nothing. It wasn't dirty by the Mayo forward. He did it to set the tone and it worked perfectly. I believe Galway were determined not to be accused of "lacking fight" against Mayo this year and tried to set the tone. They weren't dirty about it. Sure, they were physical & were in Mayo's faces but nothing more. I think Mayo fans would expect the very same from Mayo if the roles were reversed - I'm pretty sure Mayo teams have been accused of the same in the past! Look at how Mayo tried to set the tone against Dublin in 2006.

Comer's hit on O'Sé was perfectly fair. Shoulder to shoulder. Not one Mayo fan around me complained about it (and they complained about plenty of other things throughout the match!) while some complimented the hit. If I was a Mayo fan, I'd expect to see exactly the same from O'Sé on Comer.

crusier

yop wrote: »

Nah, he lined him up, thought he would take him out, he didn't and Comer has gone home to mammy.


Cormer bless him was a big man throughout the game, when he got touch he rolled and fell around, yet he came straight into the mid rift of McLoughlin, was 3rd man into the melee at the end dragging Keegan along the ground and was in like a little pup to all the other rows.

Galway didn't impress anyone on Sunday and were rightly called out for it.
And they aren't taking their loss too well now either listening to some of their fans.

There are so many people out there that would love to see mayo win an all Ireland and I am genuinely one of them, however as the championship goes on some of their fans become so unbearable that lots of neutral fans turn off them. The likes of yops posts are a perfect example!

ultrapercy

crusier wrote: »

There are so many people out there that would love to see mayo win an all Ireland and I am genuinely one of them, however as the championship goes on some of their fans become so unbearable that lots of neutral fans turn off them. The likes of yops posts are a perfect example!

That's true but it's also true of most teams and their supporters. The reality of the situation Is that most supporters are genuine and reasonable but it's the empty vessels that make the most noise.

yop

crusier wrote: »

There are so many people out there that would love to see mayo win an all Ireland and I am genuinely one of them, however as the championship goes on some of their fans become so unbearable that lots of neutral fans turn off them. The likes of yops posts are a perfect example!

ultrapercy wrote: »

That's true but it's also true of most teams and their supporters. The reality of the situation Is that most supporters are genuine and reasonable but it's the empty vessels that make the most noise.

And as we know from this forum its the same lads who appear around this time for a few months and disappear when they see the baiting hasn't worked.
Plenty of us on here now for years and years and lads come and go, don't hear from them or see them during league or FBD as the weather is too bad or its not on the TV.
They will get bored as jog of to another forum eventually.

HighKing33

ColeTrain wrote: »

Bring back a man from the full forward line and let him hang around between full back and centre back. Higgins would be my choice for his pace and tackling.

Line up something like:

Barrett Keane Cunniffe

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Higgins

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Boyle Vaughan Keegan


A full forward line of Cillian and Aidan could handle themselves.

Aidan O'Shea performed this role under Horan and yet Mayo still leaked goals while also sacrificing one of their best attackers.

If you're looking at playing an auxiliary centre-back then Donal Vaughan is the obvious choice. He's big enough to impose himself and block the runner if he has to and he's very capable linking defence and attack.

Higgins on the other hand is best suited to a sweeper role, something he did perfectly in the dismantling of Donegal in 2013. However, he's your best man-marker so I'd be reluctant to move him. It's horses for courses really.

crusier

yop wrote: »

And as we know from this forum its the same lads who appear around this time for a few months and disappear when they see the baiting hasn't worked.
Plenty of us on here now for years and years and lads come and go, don't hear from them or see them during league or FBD as the weather is too bad or its not on the TV.
They will get bored as jog of to another forum eventually.

Stand still and I'll pin a medal on ya!

yop

HighKing33 wrote: »

Aidan O'Shea performed this role under Horan and yet Mayo still leaked goals while also sacrificing one of their best attackers.

If you're looking at playing an auxiliary centre-back then Donal Vaughan is the obvious choice. He's big enough to impose himself and block the runner if he has to and he's very capable linking defence and attack.

Higgins on the other hand is best suited to a sweeper role, something he did perfectly in the dismantling of Donegal in 2013. However, he's your best man-marker so I'd be reluctant to move him. It's horses for courses really.

Dont think AOS is the man for sure. He doesn't have the pace to cover it.
Agree that Vaughan could cover that role but either himself or Higgins would be very much up to it. There seems to be a big hole in that spot where we are leaking goals, this was highlighted last year as well so the lessons haven't been learned.

You'd have hoped that this would have been looked at and tried in the league, though something what is now so obvious needs to be looked at.

TCDStudent1

The problem is that Vaughan is not a particularly good defender. He is terrific at bombing forward from the half back line. But he sacrifices his defensive duties to allow him attack. He is not disciplined enough to play a sweeper role. Many would argue that is why he has lost his position as centre back too.

yop

TCDStudent1 wrote: »

The problem is that Vaughan is not a particularly good defender. He is terrific at bombing forward from the half back line. But he sacrifices his defensive duties to allow him attack. He is not disciplined enough to play a sweeper role. Many would argue that is why he has lost his position as centre back too.

And he gets turned over multiple times per game also, but the mind will be well focused if the realisation that his position is under pressure and he may revert to keeping his line and not ploughing forward.

HighKing33

Higgins, Cunniffe and Keegan are all capable of playing as sweepers but I don't think that'll happen unless Mayo are faced with a big target man, one from Donegal or Kerry for example. The Connacht final should tell us a lot about C&H's tactics for the summer. Roscommon do like to use the high ball, they have good fielders inside but against Galway Mayo persisted with a pressing game that came good in the second half and killed off the Tribesmen. That's encouraging.

A lot depends on personnell. Kevin Keane is an old-school full-back, very comfortable commanding the edge of the square so I don't think the pressure is there to bring in a sweeper. I'd be more concerned with hustling Roscommon at midfield and slowing down their counter-attacks.

naughto

Go on Sligo that's the stuff for the rossies. Will it be Salthill or Castlebar for the final

NabyLadistheman

Nice to know ya Roscommon. Well done Sligo save us doing it!

NabyLadistheman

naughto wrote: »

Go on Sligo that's the stuff for the rossies. Will it be Salthill or Castlebar for the final

The Hyde possibly

seligehgit

Great performance by Sligo, quite a shock.

naughto

Suarezistheman wrote: »

The Hyde possibly

I don't think they can hold it with health and safety issues

Barlett

I thought the Hyde can't host Connaught Finals at the min, so Salthill or Castlebar probably

seligehgit

Suarezistheman wrote: »

The Hyde possibly

Thought there were health and safety issues?Can't imagine the capacity won't be adequate for a Mayo Sligo final.

naughto

seligehgit wrote: »

Thought there were health and safety issues?Can't imagine the capacity won't be adequate for a Mayo Sligo final.

Can't see Sligo wanting to play in Castlebar

seligehgit

naughto wrote: »

Can't see Sligo wanting to play in Castlebar

So it's Salthill then!:pac:

NabyLadistheman

My bad. The Hyde cannot hold it. Back to Salthill!

ColeTrain

seligehgit wrote: »

So it's Salthill then!:pac:

Once was enough!

naughto

Don't see Sligo causing us to much hassel in the final. They will not get away with the short ball kick out to start with they lost midfield tonight as they will the next day

Westernyelp

Castlebar surely?

naughto

Westernyelp wrote: »

Castlebar surely?

Hopeso

blinding

Sligo were Good, very fit and very hungry and well deserved their win.

We better be ready for them.

davegrohl48

Smart by Sligo to put fast mobile lads in midfield.
We should be too strong in all areas. Marren is the main man. Reduce his influence and go hard at their defence with layoffs n runners. Great to see Sligo winning. See kids running on the pitch to their heroes.

cocoman

seligehgit wrote: »

So it's Salthill then!:pac:

Please god noooooo !

Fowler87

naughto wrote: »

Don't see Sligo causing us to much hassel in the final. They will not get away with the short ball kick out to start with they lost midfield tonight as they will the next day

Forwards will be trouble though. True what sky pundits said, their cover is blown now. Good to see the pretenders out

seligehgit

Fowler87 wrote: »

Forwards will be trouble though. True what sky pundits said, their cover is blown now. Good to see the pretenders out

Their inside line will take some watching, very good tonight.

naughto

Fowler87 wrote: »

Forwards will be trouble though. True what sky pundits said, their cover is blown now. Good to see the pretenders out

They have to have the ball to do damage we are 5 yrs on the road I think we know how to beat them

Fowler87

seligehgit wrote: »

Their inside line will take some watching, very good tonight.

Experienced too. Without doubt full backs will have more difficulty with Kelly and Marren than what they faced v Galway. Test is how they cope passed the 40

davegrohl48

Btw first time seeing Jim McGuinness as an analyst. Really good on detail.

Loafing Oaf

Are the stars aligning for Mayo this year? First the Galway lad gets injured in the car crash, now Sligo in the final...

Westernyelp

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

Are the stars aligning for Mayo this year? First the Galway lad gets injured in the car crash, now Sligo in the final...

we can usually handle this far ourselves anyway. it's the last bit that gets us.

seligehgit

davegrohl48 wrote: »

Btw first time seeing Jim McGuinness as an analyst. Really good on detail.

As we've come to expect from his time as Donegal manager,big coup for SKY.

seligehgit

Westernyelp wrote: »

we can usually handle this far ourselves anyway. it's the last bit that gets us.

Couldn't agree more Unfortunately.:-(

km79

I've had a really really good feeling about this year for a while
Nothing I've seen so far has dampened it.........how about a Galway hurling mayo football double !

Westernyelp

km79 wrote: »

I've had a really really good feeling about this year for a while
Nothing I've seen so far has dampened it.........how about a Galway hurling mayo football double !

I'll take it!

Fr Tod Umptious

Westernyelp wrote: »

Castlebar surely?

Correct.
Hyde park can't take it for H&S reasons, if that is still the case I'm not sure.

Sligo will not drag their supporters down to Salthill for what would at best be negligible gain over playing it in Castlebar

Loafing Oaf

Westernyelp wrote: »

we can usually handle this far ourselves anyway. it's the last bit that gets us.

If we land the GAA equivalent of Estonia in the qf then we'll know the gods are with us...

seligehgit

Loafing Oaf wrote: »

If we land the GAA equivalent of Estonia in the qf then we'll know the gods are with us...

blinding

seligehgit wrote: »

Their inside line will take some watching, very good tonight.

We certainly wouldn't want to be giving them handy Goals. We will have to stop their supply. We better make a better job of going at them than Roscommon did.

padd b1975

blinding wrote: »

We certainly wouldn't want to be giving them handy Goals. We will have to stop their supply. We better make a better job of going at them than Roscommon did.

No disrespect to Sligo, but we really should be beating any Division 3 outfit with minimal fuss.
I certainly don't see why we can't, there's no way our midfield and half back line will afford the Sligo forwards such clean possession as the had against Roscommon.
Throw in the probable home advantage (I have no problem with Salthill from a purely football perspective) and I fully expect us to make it five in a row.

seligehgit

I agree but at the same time we must respect our opposition and never take them for granted. Roscommon appeared to take their eye of the ball and possibly be waiting for the final.Overconfidence can be fatal.They appeared tired with 2 long league campaigns,long under 21 campaigns.One wonders if they were engaged in a lot of strength and conditioning recently as they appeared very leggy.

I've no doubt the seasoned group of players we have will approach the Sligo match with their normal professional attitude to the fore.

blinding

Roscommon looked slow and cumbersome in comparison to Sligo.

Sligo looked generally smaller (unless its those black Jerseys) but made up for this with endeavour and fitness.

Mayo would be dumb to underestimate them. I wouldn't like to be Feeling like Roscommon today after the Connacht Final.

Fr Tod Umptious

padd b1975 wrote: »

No disrespect to Sligo, but we really should be beating any Division 3 outfit with minimal fuss.
I certainly don't see why we can't, there's no way our midfield and half back line will afford the Sligo forwards such clean possession as the had against Roscommon.
Throw in the probable home advantage (I have no problem with Salthill from a purely football perspective) and I fully expect us to make it five in a row.

Regardless of Sligo's strengths in the forwrads and Mayos penchant for letting in goals, Mayo should still have too much for Sligo.
Physicality and big game experience is certainly on Mayo's side.