Mayo GAA Discussion Thread

yop

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah he won't play any league.

I've seen some talk about Kerry going backwards which I thought was pretty strange. We had a better squad to pick from starting the league last year and were being destroyed by Dublin, Mayo et al. This season has been an enormous improvement from the fringe players.

I actually think Mayo are going to struggle this year. I think their success last season was built around total commitment from the panel which is going to be very difficult to replicate. Even if they do replicate it I don't think they have much if any improving to do.

Do Mayo fans think last season was 80%, 90% etc of this squad's potential? I would think myself that they played to the peak of their potential.

For the Galway and Donegal games I think we were at peak, without COC and Moran not 100% fit I can't say we were at 100% in the final, but then again I can't remember for a full 70 minutes in any AI that I have attended where we can say hand on heart we have played for the full 70.

Fr Tod Umptious

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah he won't play any league.

I've seen some talk about Kerry going backwards which I thought was pretty strange. We had a better squad to pick from starting the league last year and were being destroyed by Dublin, Mayo et al. This season has been an enormous improvement from the fringe players.

I actually think Mayo are going to struggle this year. I think their success last season was built around total commitment from the panel which is going to be very difficult to replicate. Even if they do replicate it I don't think they have much if any improving to do.

Do Mayo fans think last season was 80%, 90% etc of this squad's potential? I would think myself that they played to the peak of their potential.

I agree with you analysis of Mayo to a certain extent
I have been saying since mid 2013 that Mayo would struggle in 2014 to up the work rate and make the improvements that they did in in 2011 to 2012 and 2012 to 2013.

After getting to two finals on the trot it would take a monumental effort both physical and mental to go to the well for a 3rd successive year.

But the optimist in me tells me that in 2013 they were missing vital players like Conroy, Barry Moran, Jason Doherty and Cillian O’ Connor was not 100%.
So if they have a fit squad, and seeing as the 2014 football season is not stacked with contenders, they may just have a chance to get back to the final, and hopefully win it.

But like Donegal and Dublin in previous years their league and provincial championship displays will be a good guide to where they are at.
If they struggle to stay in Div 1, or even get relegated, and do not win Connaught with the same style as they did in 2013, then they will be semi-finalists at best.

GBXI

keane2097 wrote: »

Yeah he won't play any league.

I've seen some talk about Kerry going backwards which I thought was pretty strange. We had a better squad to pick from starting the league last year and were being destroyed by Dublin, Mayo et al. This season has been an enormous improvement from the fringe players.

I actually think Mayo are going to struggle this year. I think their success last season was built around total commitment from the panel which is going to be very difficult to replicate. Even if they do replicate it I don't think they have much if any improving to do.

Do Mayo fans think last season was 80%, 90% etc of this squad's potential? I would think myself that they played to the peak of their potential.

I think Kerry are very under-rated actually. People saying they have nothing coming through - but O'Donoghue is arguably the best young forward in the country and compliments the likes of Gooch and Walsh very well.

Then you have David Moran and Buckley at mid-field, Fitzgerald in the backs, and then all the other stars that they have. I think they'll be very competitive.

davegrohl48

First thing Mayo need to improve is how well protected the square is. The goals per game conceded against top teams in 2012/13/14 across both league n championship is too high How to achieve that is likely more than one solution
There is still need for one more forward with Adam Gallagher, too much on his shoulders right now Regan will have to be looked at again Maybe it is an injury mgmt reason but if he is scoring heavy for u21s and he is stronger physically should he not at least be conditioned to standard of defending in Div1 with bench appearances? We have several forwards in mid late 20s whose improvement has stalled

Barlett

I think if Mayo are relegated, you can forget about an All-Ireland challenge

ColeTrain

davegrohl48 wrote: »

First thing Mayo need to improve is how well protected the square is. The goals per game conceded against top teams in 2012/13/14 across both league n championship is too high How to achieve that is likely more than one solution
There is still need for one more forward with Adam Gallagher, too much on his shoulders right now Regan will have to be looked at again Maybe it is an injury mgmt reason but if he is scoring heavy for u21s and he is stronger physically should he not at least be conditioned to standard of defending in Div1 with bench appearances? We have several forwards in mid late 20s whose improvement has stalled

Regan was dropped last year and apparently is still not happy about it. It might be a while yet before he plays for us

Fowler87

Barlett wrote: »

I think if Mayo are relegated, you can forget about an All-Ireland challenge

Realistically yes but as long as we keep the progression going (which is crazy statement considering the unbelievable last 3 years under Horan) and somehow blood a forward or two to add more dimension to the forwards, we should still be on for another semi final. I'd expect Mayo to be plucky enough to still remain in contention this year. Confidence took a big blow last year but we're still among the best 2/3 in the country and will be for few years yet imo.

keane2097

GBXI wrote: »

I think Kerry are very under-rated actually. People saying they have nothing coming through - but O'Donoghue is arguably the best young forward in the country and compliments the likes of Gooch and Walsh very well.

Then you have David Moran and Buckley at mid-field, Fitzgerald in the backs, and then all the other stars that they have. I think they'll be very competitive.

I tend to agree actually. People talk about the decline and change of the guard etc but I tend to think they've largely already gone through it. 2011/12 was ironically our low ebb and we could have had an All Ireland out of those two years.

Last year we went very much with youth, looking at the semi-final with Griffin, Crowley and Fitzgerald all in there and all will continue to play and improve. Buckley and Maher in midfield, although this is still something of an area of concern, are young.

O'Donoghue brings a lot of pace to the forward line and if the season pans out the way you'd expect you'll have a forward line of Walsh, Gooch, An Other, Darran, Declan and James which is pretty potent. The AN Other is up in the air but there are decent options amongst the young players for a workhorse if nothing else.

Anyway, that's probably too much Kerry talk in here already but you've only yourself to blame :pac:

davegrohl48 wrote: »

First thing Mayo need to improve is how well protected the square is. The goals per game conceded against top teams in 2012/13/14 across both league n championship is too high How to achieve that is likely more than one solution

There is still need for one more forward with Adam Gallagher, too much on his shoulders right now Regan will have to be looked at again Maybe it is an injury mgmt reason but if he is scoring heavy for u21s and he is stronger physically should he not at least be conditioned to standard of defending in Div1 with bench appearances? We have several forwards in mid late 20s whose improvement has stalled

Is Gallagher a scoring forward or a playmaker type? Haven't seen much of him yet unfortunately but sounds like he's showing well.

davegrohl48

keane2097 wrote: »

I tend to agree actually. People talk about the decline and change of the guard etc but I tend to think they've largely already gone through it. 2011/12 was ironically our low ebb and we could have had an All Ireland out of those two years.

Last year we went very much with youth, looking at the semi-final with Griffin, Crowley and Fitzgerald all in there and all will continue to play and improve. Buckley and Maher in midfield, although this is still something of an area of concern, are young.

O'Donoghue brings a lot of pace to the forward line and if the season pans out the way you'd expect you'll have a forward line of Walsh, Gooch, An Other, Darran, Declan and James which is pretty potent. The AN Other is up in the air but there are decent options amongst the young players for a workhorse if nothing else.

Anyway, that's probably too much Kerry talk in here already but you've only yourself to blame :pac:



Is Gallagher a scoring forward or a playmaker type? Haven't seen much of him yet unfortunately but sounds like he's showing well.

Gallagher so far is showing as free scoring from play, can pass well and is athletic He was well noted as being like that since minor days Has decent height n size and already looks nailed on for half forward spot for this season

Defiler Of The Coffin

While on the topic of bringing in new forwards it will be interesting to see how Tom King fares in the league when Horan brings him in. There was an article in the Sunday Independent, available here if anyone missed it: http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/king-living-new-dreams-29992640.html

neiphin

Fowler87 wrote: »

Realistically yes but as long as we keep the progression going (which is crazy statement considering the unbelievable last 3 years under Horan) and somehow blood a forward or two to add more dimension to the forwards, we should still be on for another semi final. I'd expect Mayo to be plucky enough to still remain in contention this year. Confidence took a big blow last year but we're still among the best 2/3 in the country and will be for few years yet imo.

Fowler87

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

While on the topic of bringing in new forwards it will be interesting to see how Tom King fares in the league when Horan brings him in. There was an article in the Sunday Independent, available here if anyone missed it: http://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-football/king-living-new-dreams-29992640.html

Some commitment the lad has. Fair ****s to him! Hopefully he'll persist with the GAA now as he's had a great year.

naughto

i have to agree with yop said about mayo going to struggle this yr.three yrs on the go is a lot to ask with 100% commitment from each player, how much can he get out of them that he dident get last yr thats what i keep thinking.
you can say that we need a star forward,a new player here a new player there.what the players need is a break from it if you ask me.
there is only some many times that you can go to the well.

Rawhead

That was always my fear about last year lads, I always felt it was all in poker. I have noticed something in the last two games and the FBD that hasn't been present in a while, fatigue. It's more mental than physical also and that it not something Donie or James can fix so easily.
I really hope that the new lads like Drake and Gallagher along with yet to return players like Moran can reinvigorate the team but it will be a big ask. Our fullback line has got absolutely roasted the last two games.
I am the eternal Mayo optimist but I am worried this year. Div 1 and a Connacht are my ambitions at this stage.

padd b1975

Personally, I would bite your hand off if offered Division 1 status for next year.

Get everyone available and fit for summer, I still think AI Semi is achievable.

Oldtree

Rawhead wrote: »

I am the eternal Mayo optimist.

+1 I live in hope no matter what

irishgeo

Have we appointed a 2nd selector yet

naughto

irishgeo wrote: »

Have we appointed a 2nd selector yet

is it not the goal keeping coach thatwas there last yr,cant think of his name for the life of me

yop

irishgeo wrote: »

Have we appointed a 2nd selector yet

Buckley is doing both the coaching and selector role along with Peter Burke.

Always_Running

It was worth trying but most of the experimental stuff hasn't worked out for Horan in the opening two games. Once the league re-starts i expect Mayo to kick on and possibly reach the semi finals.

yop

Always_Running wrote: »

It was worth trying but most of the experimental stuff hasn't worked out for Horan in the opening two games. Once the league re-starts i expect Mayo to kick on and possibly reach the semi finals.

Didn't work last year either but at least he is trying I'll give him that, the FBD and league are for trying out new systems and player so he has to do it.

ColeTrain

yop wrote: »

Didn't work last year either but at least he is trying I'll give him that, the FBD and league are for trying out new systems and player so he has to do it.

Don't think he has a choice! there was a quote in the mayo news today that horan reckons he's missing 20 players at the minute..
Also Keegan , Boyle and cafferkey all picked up knocks on Sunday and will be touch and go for Kerry

blowitupref

ColeTrain wrote: »

Don't think he has a choice! there was a quote in the mayo news today that horan reckons he's missing 20 players at the minute..
Also Keegan , Boyle and cafferkey all picked up knocks on Sunday and will be touch and go for Kerry

Exaggerating much? or is he including players no longer on the panel. On Sunday Mayo had 8 players that started the All Ireland final last September and Kevin Keane who started the 2012 AI final. A decent team for a league game in early Feb and Drake,McHale,Gallagher are showing well.

The three week break has come at a good time if Keegan,Boyle,Cafferkey are injured.

yop

ColeTrain wrote: »

Don't think he has a choice! there was a quote in the mayo news today that horan reckons he's missing 20 players at the minute..
Also Keegan , Boyle and cafferkey all picked up knocks on Sunday and will be touch and go for Kerry

What would the 20 be I wonder?

2 Goalkeepers, Cunniffe, Feeney, Reilly?, Moran, King, COC, Dillon, Seamie, Parsons, Vaughan, Regan??? - that 13.

Any more?

ColeTrain

yop wrote: »

What would the 20 be I wonder?

2 Goalkeepers, Cunniffe, Feeney, Reilly?, Moran, King, COC, Dillon, Seamie, Parsons, Vaughan, Regan??? - that 13.

Any more?

Barrett, Varley would be two more off the top of my head.
Maybe mikey Sweeney or a couple of others from kiltane?

ColeTrain

blowitupref wrote: »

Exaggerating much? or is he including players no longer on the panel. On Sunday Mayo had 8 players that started the All Ireland final last September and Kevin Keane who started the 2012 AI final. A decent team for a league game in early Feb and Drake,McHale,Gallagher are showing well.

The three week break has come at a good time if Keegan,Boyle,Cafferkey are injured.

Thinking about it now, The 20 must also include the three from Sunday. I agree it was a decent team that lined out and the lads you mentioned all done well.

We have over two weeks to get some players back. The two defeats makes the Kerry game obviously vital now.

blowitupref

The others goalkeepers have a lot to do if they want to dislodge Hennelly as no 1 and he has improved his free taking this year.

Cunniffe,O'Connor,Vaughan,Barrett are four certs to start once they return however i have my doubts with Dillon who has plenty of mileage on the clock and struggling to keep fit. Horan will have to choose between Barry Moran or S O'Shea as AOS is sure to hold down the other midfield spot.

As for rest it hard to see many of them starting come championship though i think for example Feeney should be a starter.

ColeTrain

blowitupref wrote: »

The others goalkeepers have a lot to do if they want to dislodge Hennelly as no 1 and he has improved his free taking this year.

Cunniffe,O'Connor,Vaughan,Barrett are four certs to start once they return however i have my doubts with Dillon who has plenty of mileage on the clock and struggling to keep fit. Horan will have to choose between Barry Moran or S O'Shea as AOS is sure to hold down the other midfield spot.

As for rest it hard to see many of them starting come championship though i think for example Feeney should be a starter.

I'd go with Clarke myself but hennelly is a very good keeper.
Midfield does look strong now with gibbons also showing very well. If you include Parsons then that's five there including two all stars fighting for a place.
I agree with you on Dillion, I think he would be best held in reserve. Bringing him on with 20 minutes to go in a tight match could be a calming influence.

yop

blowitupref wrote: »

The others goalkeepers have a lot to do if they want to dislodge Hennelly as no 1 and he has improved his free taking this year.

Cunniffe,O'Connor,Vaughan,Barrett are four certs to start once they return however i have my doubts with Dillon who has plenty of mileage on the clock and struggling to keep fit. Horan will have to choose between Barry Moran or S O'Shea as AOS is sure to hold down the other midfield spot.

As for rest it hard to see many of them starting come championship though i think for example Feeney should be a starter.

ColeTrain wrote: »

I'd go with Clarke myself but hennelly is a very good keeper.
Midfield does look strong now with gibbons also showing very well. If you include Parsons then that's five there including two all stars fighting for a place.
I agree with you on Dillion, I think he would be best held in reserve. Bringing him on with 20 minutes to go in a tight match could be a calming influence.

Agree that Dillion is under threat now mainly from Gallagher. The rest I agree with except again I think Hennelly as he did once more in the FBD game, is error prone. Yes his free taking has improved but thats COC or McLoughlin job so if he is there for that reason only then its not a good enough one, he is still very vunerable under the high ball

Horan has a big headache to deal with, its a good one though!

GBXI

yop wrote: »

Agree that Dillion is under threat now mainly from Gallagher. The rest I agree with except again I think Hennelly as he did once more in the FBD game, is error prone. Yes his free taking has improved but thats COC or McLoughlin job so if he is there for that reason only then its not a good enough one, he is still very vunerable under the high ball

Horan has a big headache to deal with, its a good one though!

Completely disagree with the Hennelly comments. He is no more error-prone than Clarke and is most definitely a better distributor of the ball. I consider both to be the same under the high ball, neither perfect but as good as any other keeper in the country in that respect. Hennelly has the advantage of being a lot lighter on his feet, which helps when is comes to quick kick-outs and releasing the ball quickly. He is Mayo's best long-range free-taker too, better than O'Connor, which is another feather in his cap.

naughto

GBXI wrote: »

Completely disagree with the Hennelly comments. He is no more error-prone than Clarke and is most definitely a better distributor of the ball. I consider both to be the same under the high ball, neither perfect but as good as any other keeper in the country in that respect. Hennelly has the advantage of being a lot lighter on his feet, which helps when is comes to quick kick-outs and releasing the ball quickly. He is Mayo's best long-range free-taker too, better than O'Connor, which is another feather in his cap.

Better than o Connor what are u on about,hennelly I sent even in the same league as o conner never mind dbeing better than him.
Much prefer Clark in goal.

GBXI

naughto wrote: »

Better than o Connor what are u on about,hennelly I sent even in the same league as o conner never mind dbeing better than him.
Much prefer Clark in goal.

Yes, long-range (from the 45 and further out) he is a better free-taker - that's why he tends to take them. Hennelly is a better all-round keeper than Clarke.

Wolf Club

I only saw the highlights of Sunday's game but going from the previous game against Kildare, if Barrett is not back from injury after the break I wouldn't mind seeing Higgins back in the corner instead of Boyle, Boyle back to 7 and Gibbons at centre forward. He looks a hard man to stop when he's running and should cause the Kerry/Cork half back lines problems with his power.

seligehgit

I think Robert Hennelly and David Clarke are top class goalkeepers,we're very fortunate to have such riches,Kenneth o Malley is not too shabby either.Both are fine shot stoppers,good under the high ball and have excellent kick outs.Agreed Hennelly is lighter on his feet and a quicker distributor but I agree with posters who've mentioned that he can make the odd mistake or have a rush of blood to the head.So it's Clarke by a short head for me.

Detest goalkeepers taking 45s,Robert Hennelly on his day is a fine exponent of long free taking but he can be hit and miss.IMO Cillian o Connor without doubt is our best long range free taker.

GBXI

seligehgit wrote: »

I think Robert Hennelly and David Clarke are top class goalkeepers,we're very fortunate to have such riches,Kenneth o Malley is not too shabby either.Both are fine shot stoppers,good under the high ball and have excellent kick outs.Agreed Hennelly is lighter on his feet and a quicker distributor but I agree with posters who've mentioned that he can make the odd mistake or have a rush of blood to the head.So it's Clarke by a short head for me.

Detest goalkeepers taking 45s,Robert Hennelly on his day is a fine exponent of long free taking but he can be hit and miss.IMO Cillian o Connor without doubt is our best long free taker.

What's the problem with this?

yop

GBXI wrote: »

Completely disagree with the Hennelly comments. He is no more error-prone than Clarke and is most definitely a better distributor of the ball. I consider both to be the same under the high ball, neither perfect but as good as any other keeper in the country in that respect. Hennelly has the advantage of being a lot lighter on his feet, which helps when is comes to quick kick-outs and releasing the ball quickly. He is Mayo's best long-range free-taker too, better than O'Connor, which is another feather in his cap.

Nah, ask anyone from Dublin and what the key point was, we have discussed this previously and again in the NUIG game he got caught under a high ball and cost yet another goal. That his job, not 45's.
Cluxton is a1 at 45's and Hennelly is getting there, but Cluxton does his job as well.
Quick kick outs... we don't use them, so wouldn't use that.
Clarke is a more more robust keeper, again note the Kildare match and see what happened to Hennelly for the a number of scores when he went up against the Kildare FF.
Its great to have him, but there he is always one game away from a mistake.

GBXI

yop wrote: »

Nah, ask anyone from Dublin and what the key point was, we have discussed this previously and again in the NUIG game he got caught under a high ball and cost yet another goal. That his job, not 45's.
Cluxton is a1 at 45's and Hennelly is getting there, but Cluxton does his job as well.
Quick kick outs... we don't use them, so wouldn't use that.
Clarke is a more more robust keeper, again note the Kildare match and see what happened to Hennelly for the a number of scores when he went up against the Kildare FF.
Its great to have him, but there he is always one game away from a mistake.

Didn't see NUIG game but AI Final he def could have done better, but so could Caff. Cluxton is the best around no doubt, but look at the cock up he made for Andy Moran's goal. Clarke made a similar one v Murphy in 2nd half of 2012 AI final. No one is perfect.

Most important thing for a modern keeper, in my opinion, is distribution. It's not just about short-ones, it's about hitting Higgins, Boyle, Keegan, Vaughan, KmcL, O'Shea's in space from time to time as well. Hennelly is better at this than Clarke. Under the high-ball, Clarke might be slightly better, but it's debatable. Hennelly is an incredible shot-stopper to boot.

yop

GBXI wrote: »

Didn't see NUIG game but AI Final he def could have done better, but so could Caff. Cluxton is the best around no doubt, but look at the cock up he made for Andy Moran's goal. Clarke made a similar one v Murphy in 2nd half of 2012 AI final. No one is perfect.

Most important thing for a modern keeper, in my opinion, is distribution. It's not just about short-ones, it's about hitting Higgins, Boyle, Keegan, Vaughan, KmcL, O'Shea's in space from time to time as well. Hennelly is better at this than Clarke. Under the high-ball, Clarke might be slightly better, but it's debatable. Hennelly is an incredible shot-stopper to boot.

Not similar, check back through this thread, I have videos of both incidents and the difference between the 2. Also Murphy got a point off that incident as Clarke was on top of him, note where Hennelly was in this year AI.
I played as a keeper for a lot of years and did coaching badges for same and Hennelly starting position and where he was in the air when the ball came in was a basic mistake.

Since they changed the rules on the highball its become critical that they can at least compete with the FF, look at the amount of goals we have conceded this year alone from this.
Agree he is a super shot stopper and distributor, but has still cost us in game doing the job he is there to do.

GBXI

yop wrote: »

Not similar, check back through this thread, I have videos of both incidents and the difference between the 2. Also Murphy got a point off that incident as Clarke was on top of him, note where Hennelly was in this year AI.
I played as a keeper for a lot of years and did coaching badges for same and Hennelly starting position and where he was in the air when the ball came in was a basic mistake.

Since they changed the rules on the highball its become critical that they can at least compete with the FF, look at the amount of goals we have conceded this year alone from this.
Agree he is a super shot stopper and distributor, but has still cost us in game doing the job he is there to do.

Haha, I think we've had this debate already!! And I know I can't agree that the Murphy point was any different, Clarke was so lucky he didn't concede a goal - actually a bad miss by Murphy. The thing about Brogan's goal was that it was a great pass (by Paul Flynn I think) in that it landed perfectly between Caff/Brogan and Hennelly. Keeper still should have been quicker off his line all right.

Anyway, to summarise, Hennelly (the modern keeper) all day for me!

yop

GBXI wrote: »

Haha, I think we've had this debate already!! And I know I can't agree that the Murphy point was any different, Clarke was so lucky he didn't concede a goal - actually a bad miss by Murphy. The thing about Brogan's goal was that it was a great pass (by Paul Flynn I think) in that it landed perfectly between Caff/Brogan and Hennelly. Keeper still should have been quicker off his line all right.

Anyway, to summarise, Hennelly (the modern keeper) all day for me!

True, but I'm right

We'll agree to disagree, again, I wouldn't care if you were in goal, as long as we win Sam

seligehgit

GBXI wrote: »

What's the problem with this?

Just think it tends to send out the signal that our outfield players/forwards who take frees are'nt up to the task,reducing confidence in same players.It's a bit of an abdication of their primary responsibility.

yop

seligehgit wrote: »

Just think it tends to send out the signal that our outfield players/forwards who take frees are'nt up to the task,reducing confidence in same players.It's a bit of an abdication of their primary responsibility.

I agree and disagree, you use all the qualities you have from front to back, stick fighter (aka hurlers) bring up keepers for frees and penalties, so I suppose the same can apply.
Keepers from all the kickouts will in most cases have a longer hoof of a ball, its the accuracy where the problem is, bringing them up there just because it worked for Dublin is pointless (excuse the pun), but if they are accurate and can clock up points on a regular basis like Hennelly (clarke is better ) has in the last couple of games then I don't think free takers should get too insulted.

GBXI

seligehgit wrote: »

Just think it tends to send out the signal that our outfield players/forwards who take frees are'nt up to the task,reducing confidence in same players.It's a bit of an abdication of their primary responsibility.

Ah I can't agree with that. Keepers spend years kicking the ball of the ground and tend to be naturally better at it than any out-field player, so it makes sense that will take some of the longer ones. Definitely didn't hamper Dublin last year!

Defiler Of The Coffin

Great burst from Mitchels at the end. Well capable of winning the title. Just wait until those players return to the Mayo squad!

Rawhead

Great win. Stuck €20 on them when gooch went off @13/5. Pity the the crokes players now back for next Sunday.

Fowler87

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Great burst from Mitchels at the end. Well capable of winning the title. Just wait until those players return to the Mayo squad!

Will be a boost for the rest of the panel. At least 4 or 5 will benefit the squad hugely

wirelessdude01

Defiler Of The Coffin wrote: »

Great burst from Mitchels at the end. Well capable of winning the title. Just wait until those players return to the Mayo squad!

Who do you think will make championship panel?

Syferus

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

Who do you think will make championship panel?

Won't Cunniffe be the only nailed on-starter? Moran's in with a shout but it's anyone's guess if there is even any sort of relationship remaining between Richie Feeney and James Horan. Lads like Kirby, Walsh and King really needed league time to come into contention and they won't get much of it now.

seligehgit

Love if somebody could clarify for me the REAL story re Richie Feeney and James Horan,thought the whole story was rubbish??

blowitupref

Syferus wrote: »

Won't Cunniffe be the only nailed on-starter? Moran's in with a shout but it's anyone's guess if there is even any sort of relationship remaining between Richie Feeney and James Horan. Lads like Kirby, Walsh and King really needed league time to come into contention and they won't get much of it now.

Barry Moran for me is the best midfielder Mayo have one of O'Sheas will have to drop out or play in the forward line. Richie Feeney should be starter also.