Your unpopular music opinions

rcaz

Android 666 wrote: »

Nah, cake would be too strong. I was thinking along the lines of something that wouldn't make him puke up his pelvis bone…

Anyway he wouldn't be able to listen to normal music on that stuff. His Shatner's Bassoon would be all over the gaff.

Oasis_Dublin

El Pr0n wrote: »

Anyway he wouldn't be able to listen to normal music on that stuff. His Shatner's Bassoon would be all over the gaff.

That's what happens when you listen to music at a modern drugs party. Thankfully, I don't use the horse.

onlyrocknroll

Da Shins Kelly wrote: »

It's because he is. If you study his writing style (which I have, by the way), he's quite old fashioned. He deals a lot with very traditional themes and poetic techniques, while mixing it with colloquialisms. When you actually properly read his stuff, the level of time and effort he must put into it is amazing. It's very intricate stuff. On top of that, the writing style very often compliments his style of delivery (the kind of angry, stop-start style of rapping, building tension, etc.) so even when you're reading it, you're reading it the way should be delivered. The feeling from the lyrics is not just in the meanings of the words, but also in the structures of the sentences, rhyming techniques and alliteration, and such. I do not see how anyone who properly listens to his stuff can argue that he's not a great lyricist.

I agree completely that in terms of pure form he is unusually good. Even comparing him to many published poets his command of rhythm and rhyme is breathtaking.

I'm very hard pressed to think of other artists in pop music who compare with him. Leonard Cohan and Bob Dylan. In fact at the risk of getting lynched here, strictly speaking of his command of lyrical energy I would say that Eminem is better than Dylan. Dylan, even at his best, has many unsatisfying breaks in his rhythm. Eminem, even in his most inane and pointless stuff, is always faultless. He is an amazing talent.

The reason I don't like Eminem much is that I think that he's very rarely interesting in terms of content. Most of what he does seems to me to be an attempt to be subversive or shocking, but without being actually clever or worthwhile.

Having said that I'd appreciate it if you'd direct me to some Eminem stuff that would change my mind.

Temaz

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

I agree completely that in terms of pure form he is unusually good. Even comparing him to many published poets his command of rhythm and rhyme is breathtaking.

I'm very hard pressed to think of other artists in pop music who compare with him. Leonard Cohan and Bob Dylan. In fact at the risk of getting lynched here, strictly speaking of his command of lyrical energy I would say that Eminem is better than Dylan. Dylan, even at his best, has many unsatisfying breaks in his rhythm. Eminem, even in his most inane and pointless stuff, is always faultless. He is an amazing talent.

The reason I don't like Eminem much is that I think that he's very rarely interesting in terms of content. Most of what he does seems to me to be an attempt to be subversive or shocking, but without being actually clever or worthwhile.

Having said that I'd appreciate it if you'd direct me to some Eminem stuff that would change my mind.

Huge Eminem fan but I have to say that Bob is the greater lyricist.

rcaz

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

The reason I don't like Eminem much is that I think that he's very rarely interesting in terms of content. Most of what he does seems to me to be an attempt to be subversive or shocking, but without being actually clever or worthwhile.

I always just thought he liked rapping as the Slim Shady character. Slim Shady shoots mots and kills and rapes and all, Eminem just likes the story.

lordgoat

karaokeman wrote: »

Please tell me what's wrong with these lyrics you just referred to?

Brilliant.

Needs more music.

Kold wrote: »

It's starting to irk me.

You love it really.

karaokeman wrote: »

Thankfully not one closet Justin Bieber fan has posted here yet.

Bieber > majority of crap you listen to. He's pop and pretends to be nothing else.

Temaz wrote: »

Huge Eminem fan but I have to say that Bob is the greater lyricist.

Last thoughts on Woody Guthrie is an amazing piece of writing.



My unpopular opinion.

Karaokeman knows lots about music. - kidding kidding...

adox

Can we have an unwritten rule that writing off whole genres is a no no?

Anyway, not sure if this is an unpopular music opinion but, lyrics aren't overly important to me in music. I listen to the music first and that's what gets me (or not). Lyrics come down the list for me.

Da Shins Kelly

onlyrocknroll wrote: »

I agree completely that in terms of pure form he is unusually good. Even comparing him to many published poets his command of rhythm and rhyme is breathtaking.

I'm very hard pressed to think of other artists in pop music who compare with him. Leonard Cohan and Bob Dylan. In fact at the risk of getting lynched here, strictly speaking of his command of lyrical energy I would say that Eminem is better than Dylan. Dylan, even at his best, has many unsatisfying breaks in his rhythm. Eminem, even in his most inane and pointless stuff, is always faultless. He is an amazing talent.

The reason I don't like Eminem much is that I think that he's very rarely interesting in terms of content. Most of what he does seems to me to be an attempt to be subversive or shocking, but without being actually clever or worthwhile.

Having said that I'd appreciate it if you'd direct me to some Eminem stuff that would change my mind.

I think 'The Way I Am' is his best song. It's my favourite of his anyway. I think the lyrics are very, very good, as well as the brilliant delivery. I think 'Cleanin' Out My Closet' has brilliant moments and 'Stan' obviously, in terms of just pure storytelling, is incredible.

Yes, a lot of his content is deliberately shocking and subversive, but that's kinda what makes him such an icon. He came along with this kind of material at just the right time. I remember quite clearly the panic surrounding him when he broke out and the fear that he created particularly among parents. There hadn't been a single artist who had created such a furore just through pure lyrics before.

I also think that having clever or witty lyrics isn't necessarily always the mark of great lyricism. A lot of Eminem's serious stuff, I find, is extremely intense material, and his writing of it often seems like a form of catharsis to me or a method to get stuff off his chest, and often the most effective way of doing that is to just tell it as it is without dressing it up in flowery form. 'The Way I Am' is quite interesting in my opinion and part of why I love that song (one of my favourite songs ever) is because it's addressing a lot of what people were saying about him at that time. It wasn't an attempt at being shocking, it was just a 'f*ck you' to the media and everyone who was trying to pin blame on him for "corrupting our children" and other such rubbish. It comes across as genuinely angry, and some pretty clever wordplay in it. The delivery of it is also one of the greatest deliveries of any song I've ever heard.

SilverScreen

adox wrote: »

Anyway, not sure if this is an unpopular music opinion but, lyrics aren't overly important to me in music. I listen to the music first and that's what gets me (or not). Lyrics come down the list for me.

Yeah I kind of agree with you there. It depends on the style of music though, if it's a singer-songwriter you are listening to lyrics are going to be a bit more important but with bands like Sigur Ros, Cocteau Twins and My Bloody Valentine the lyrics aren't the slightest bit important. Most of the bands I listen to I couldn't really care less about their lyrics.

karaokeman

lordgoat wrote: »

Bieber > majority of crap you listen to. He's pop and pretends to be nothing else.

You do realise you just called Justin Bieber better than Noel Gallagher:eek:.

Another unpopular opinion.

Lordgoat knows what music I listen to - Not

We've had this argument many times, you don't know me personally so you have no way of substantiating your claims.

Lady Chuckles

I hate most music they play on the radio...

Kold

adox wrote: »

Can we have an unwritten rule that writing off whole genres is a no no?

No. Metal sucks. There I said it.

Malice

adox wrote: »

Can we have an unwritten rule that writing off whole genres is a no no?

How about just writing off the opinions of certain posters? Everything that Kold likes sucks. There I said it.

ciaranmac

adox wrote: »

Can we have an unwritten rule that writing off whole genres is a no no?

You would need to change the thread title then.

lewisdhead

Jeff Buckley is so over-rated.

paddyandy

What Music ? i don't hear ANYTHING.

Adyx

karaokeman wrote: »

You do realise you just called Justin Bieber better than Noel Gallagher:eek:.

Another unpopular opinion.

Lordgoat knows what music I listen to - Not

We've had this argument many times, you don't know me personally so you have no way of substantiating your claims.

I can honestly say I've never, ever heard anything by Justin Bieber.... but I bet he is better than Noel Gallagher. :pac:

karaokeman

Adyx wrote: »

I can honestly say I've never, ever heard anything by Justin Bieber

You're better off, he's dire, boring, bland and makes utterly appalling, diabolic and crap music.

adox wrote: »

Can we have an unwritten rule that writing off whole genres is a no no?

What about all the posters here who have written off music altogether? At least by dismissing one genre they are still open to other types of music, but comments like these are just ott.

jacksprat wrote: »

I'll give you unpopular! MUSIC IS ****E

rcaz

karaokeman wrote: »

You're better off, he's dire, boring, bland and makes utterly appalling, diabolic and crap music.

I don't see why everyone hates him so much - he doesn't pretend to be anything else than that, and he's very very good at it.

Sinfonia

El Pr0n wrote: »

I don't see why everyone hates him so much - he doesn't pretend to be anything else than that, and he's very very good at it.

Why does a lack of pretension matter? That doesn't have any bearing on the quality of the music with which he's affiliated.

lordgoat

El Pr0n wrote: »

I don't see why everyone hates him so much - he doesn't pretend to be anything else than that, and he's very very good at it.

Sinfonia wrote: »

Why does a lack of pretension matter? That doesn't have any bearing on the quality of the music with which he's affiliated.

He's pop and his target audience is young girls. Much akin to westlife, back street boys, boyzone etc. I have nothing against him, he can stick to doing that and it will not affect me in the slightest.

Once you're pop, you've set your stall out, you can't really change. Unless you're Bressie, who went from making sh-ite pop songs with the blizzards to making sh-ite pop songs on his own. Oh wait...

karaokeman

lordgoat wrote: »

Once you're pop, you've set your stall out, you can't really change. Unless you're Bressie, who went from making sh-ite pop songs with the blizzards to making sh-ite pop songs on his own. Oh wait...

And this is coming from the guy who said;

lordgoat wrote: »

I think pop music is often overlooked.

kerash

This is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M

lordgoat

karaokeman wrote: »

And this is coming from the guy who said;

I don't expect you to be able to understand it. Maybe if i could type it all in smilies you would. Alas i can't dumb it down that much. soz.

rcaz

lordgoat wrote: »

Maybe if i could type it all in smilies you would..

That's a high quality sentence, still lolling :pac:

Mindkiller

kerash wrote: »

This is great

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QspuCt1FM9M

Wow.. it's like Sigur Ros or one of those other girly post rock groups. Uncanny.

SilverScreen

Mindkiller wrote: »

Wow.. it's like Sigur Ros or one of those other girly post rock groups. Uncanny.

Unrelated to that Justin Bieber video, what's so girly about post-rock?

Mindkiller

I'm joking. I listen to post-rock. When I can find the time, that is.

Nolanger

The stone roses ripped off The lurkers' song Out in the dark for their sound!

whatislife

The first 5 tracks off Hot Fuss by the Killers are top quality pop rock songs.

The rest of the album is garbage but those 5 songs are quality.

In my opinion of course.

1. "Jenny Was a Friend of Mine" Flowers, Stoermer 4:04 2. "Mr. Brightside" Flowers, Keuning 3:42 3. "Smile Like You Mean It" Flowers, Stoermer 3:54 4. "Somebody Told Me" Flowers, Keuning, Stoermer, Vannucci 3:17 5. "All These Things That I've Done"