Your unpopular music opinions

JerryHandbag · 30-11-2011 11:47pm

karaokeman wrote: »

The reality of it is Take That are a genuine band. They can all sing, they play instruments and they write their own songs. For the vast, vast majority of boybands it is the complete opposite. That is all I am trying to say.

What instruments do they play? Do they play them onstage? In their videos? In the recording studio on all their albums?

Just curious.

SilverScreen · 01-12-2011 12:13am

Yes a genuine band and they're so good at their instruments they can play them with no hands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aee7AmC_CzY

Also if they are a real band then why do they get session musicians to play the music on their albums? I know Gary Barlow can play keyboards by the way but what about the rest of them?

Duke Leonal Felmet · 01-12-2011 12:29am

El Pr0n wrote: »

If the Sex Pistols didn't, who did?

God knows, but they were playing rock and roll. That's for damn sure. Don't be fooled by style so easily.

VenomousFish wrote: »

Care to elaborate?

No. They are simply sh!t.

Technocentral wrote: »

Apart from The Rolling Stones your WAY off.

Even musicians who limit themselves to one scale?

Aww....

rcaz · 01-12-2011 1:52am

Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »

God knows, but they were playing rock and roll. That's for damn sure. Don't be fooled by style so easily.

That's what punk was, it was simplistic rock and roll by angry amateurs. That original kind of punk is defined by it's approach and motivation and feeling, not the way it sounds.

Since, punk has come to mean a particular sound, sure, but Sex Pistols started punk, and imo, The Clash perfected it.

Oasis_Dublin · 01-12-2011 1:57am

karaokeman wrote: »

But how can you prove that Take That's new found success is entirely unrelated to an increasing new fan base?

I never claimed that I can prove anything. But then neither can you. Unless you have interviewed all the fans that have only started liking the group since they reformed?!

viadah · 01-12-2011 2:04am

I have actually interviewed all the fans that have only started liking Take That since they reformed. They all have lovely haircuts and fancy jeans for the most part, and the vast majority of them were bullies in school surprisingly enough. All the rest of them have lovely photos of their toddlers.

Oasis_Dublin · 01-12-2011 2:26am

viadah wrote: »

I have actually interviewed all the fans that have only started liking Take That since they reformed. They all have lovely haircuts and fancy jeans for the most part, and the vast majority of them were bullies in school surprisingly enough. All the rest of them have lovely photos of their toddlers.

Did they tell you whether they were fans because of the new music or for nostalgic reasons, by any chance?!

viadah · 01-12-2011 2:32am

Neither as it happens, they saw them on the telly and that seemed sufficient reason to buy the albums.

karaokeman · 01-12-2011 8:48am

JerryHandbag wrote: »

What instruments do they play? Do they play them onstage? In their videos? In the recording studio on all their albums?

Just curious.

Take That do all play instruments, maybe not for every song of their setlist but they do throw them in there at a few parts of the show. Reason is that while they can play instruments, all five of them are more showmans for the most part. They do however use instruments in the studio while writing songs and for recording the final product. On tour they play instruments for a few songs, most of the set is just singing but you will see for example Jason or Mark playing guitar on 3 or 4 songs, Gary plays a paino medley of 5-6 songs, Howard plays drums for a few also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycpAoRzUUHY

Mark Owen playing guitar for anyone who cares to watch.

Oasis_Dublin wrote: »

I never claimed that I can prove anything. But then neither can you. Unless you have interviewed all the fans that have only started liking the group since they reformed?!

No I haven't and neither have you but the fact remains they couldn't sell out venues as big in the 90s but now they can, coincidence much, I don't think so.

CaoimH_in · 01-12-2011 5:43pm

El Pr0n wrote: »

That's what punk was, it was simplistic rock and roll by angry amateurs. That original kind of punk is defined by it's approach and motivation and feeling, not the way it sounds.

Vivenne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren used The Sex Pistols as a way to sell clothes, no? Does that no go violently against any sort of anti-conforming punk ideas?

Thats a pretty basic way in which they might not be seen as punk.

I have it from good sources Lydon's standards when it comes to butter, mind.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mSE-Iy_tFY

Oasis_Dublin · 01-12-2011 6:59pm

karaokeman wrote: »

No I haven't and neither have you but the fact remains they couldn't sell out venues as big in the 90s but now they can, coincidence much, I don't think so.

And neither did e Stone Roses. Your point is absolutely moot, I'm afraid.

rcaz · 01-12-2011 7:00pm

CaoimH_in wrote: »

Vivenne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren used The Sex Pistols as a way to sell clothes, no? Does that no go violently against any sort of anti-conforming punk ideas?

Thats a pretty basic way in which they might not be seen as punk.

Yeah, I get you, but that whole thing was still rebelling against something, right? The 'establishment' if you will... The Sex Pistols were all about being angry at 'the man', but so was Westwood and McLaren's shop, Sex, wasn't it? Sure maybe the band was part of the shop's campaign, but that campaign overall was still complaining about things, or at least trying to reject those things.

Technocentral · 01-12-2011 7:45pm

Duke Leonal Felmet wrote: »

God knows, but they were playing rock and roll. That's for damn sure. Don't be fooled by style so easily.

No. They are simply sh!t.

Even musicians who limit themselves to one scale?

Aww....

Lots of great music is about energy and passion and ideas. I'm not a musician so I don't know or care about scales, Pixies had great tunes thats all I care about.

Nolanger · 03-12-2011 1:02pm

1980's metal band Samson are very underrated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T0pMXw5CmI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giVZGFHUjPg

dasdog · 03-12-2011 6:56pm

Deleted User wrote: »

This may not be too unpopular but I would rate Dean Martin as one of the all time greatest singers and far superior to his cohorts in the Rat Pack. Not only was he a great singer, but he was a truly fantastic comedian, a damn fine actor and as close to cool incarnate as you can get. The really don't make them like him anymore.

This is one of my all time favorite moments of Television

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9m74urGhPVM

I'll raise you Sammy Davis Junior just to get away from the amateur talk.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PF8cEUBjUpY

Nolanger · 03-12-2011 9:15pm

Rock music in the top 40 singles chart is dead now.

karaokeman · 03-12-2011 9:38pm

Nolanger wrote: »

Rock music in the top 40 singles chart is dead now.

The charts aren't important anymore.

Any owl crap can make it to #1 nowadays.

Rothko · 03-12-2011 11:10pm

karaokeman wrote: »

The charts aren't important anymore.

Any owl crap can make it to #1 nowadays.

The charts were never important.

karaokeman · 04-12-2011 9:39am

Vertigo, what a tune:D

Technocentral · 06-12-2011 1:42pm

Suas11 wrote: »

The charts were never important.

I have to disagree, in the 80's, when I were a lad, it was great to see the likes of The Cure, Echo and the Bunnyman, New Order and The Smiths etc chart so you could see them on TOTP which was, apart from the superior TUBE one of the only ways of seeing your fave bands back in the day, I can still remember how exciting it was to see New Order playing live on the Pops in 83. The net and xfactor have, I agree made the charts completely irrelevant nowadays.

conor.hogan.2 · 06-12-2011 3:41pm

Hip-Hop has much better lyrics than other genres.

Not unpopular but it is Beatles over stones and oasis over blur, always.

marwelie · 06-12-2011 3:54pm

I have no idea how the Kings of Leon and Red Hot Chilli Peppers are so popular in this country.

viadah · 06-12-2011 4:09pm

Lady GaGa is sh*t. Just because she dresses up funny doesn't make the same old pop bollox any more interesting. And she is ****ing NOT the new Freddie Mercury, who the **** was on what ****en drugs to dream that up?

Don't get me wrong though, I totally would.

Dark Artist · 06-12-2011 5:48pm

Nolanger wrote: »

Rock music in the top 40 singles chart is dead now.

Evanescence released a new album recently that went to No.1 in the states, so it's not completely dead - which leads me to an unpopular musical opinion of mine, which is that they are a very underrated band.

Nolanger · 06-12-2011 6:53pm

How can a bleedin' album get into the singles charts? Rock music has been dead over here since about 2007. There isn't even one rock band in the top 40 singles charts now.

conor.hogan.2 · 06-12-2011 7:00pm

Nolanger wrote: »

There isn't even one rock band in the top 40 singles charts now.

Coldplay and snow patrol are.

3hn2givr7mx1sc · 06-12-2011 7:01pm

conor.hogan.2 wrote: »

Coldplay and snow patrol are.

So yep, no rock bands in the single chart atm.

Technocentral · 06-12-2011 7:05pm

baz2009 wrote: »

So yep, no rock bands in the single chart atm.

Though they could be considered wimp rock, no?

conor.hogan.2 · 06-12-2011 7:06pm

Well, it is the charts.

All genres only have watered down versions in them, even r&b.

smokedeels · 06-12-2011 7:45pm

CaoimH_in wrote: »

Vivenne Westwood and Malcolm McLaren used The Sex Pistols as a way to sell clothes, no? Does that no go violently against any sort of anti-conforming punk ideas?

The Pistols had no "ideas" about conformity or anything for that matter, their words were nothing more than adolescent drivel, their lyrics will show you that. Or watch a Lydon interview, especially around the PIL era, he hadn't got a clue what he was talking about, he made up flimsy ideals on the spot.

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