Your unpopular music opinions

karaokeman

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Robbie Williams is actually not a bad singer, not as good a Gary Barlow but he's no.2 in terms of Take That.

I never quite understood why so many people think Robbie Williams can't sing.

Only times I've ever seen him out of tune were when he was on A LOT of illegal substances before performances, and this is coming from someone whose seen him live.

I actually think Gary Barlow's a better singer but Rob has a better voice.

Mister Jingles

karaokeman wrote: »

I never quite understood why so many people think Robbie Williams can't sing.

Only times I've ever seen him out of tune were when he was on A LOT of illegal substances before performances, and this is coming from someone whose seen him live.

I actually think Gary Barlow's a better singer but Rob has a better voice.

Robbie has a stronger voice, Gary can hit the high falsetto notes and has a softer voice, Rule the World shows this.

Mister Jingles

TAlderson wrote: »

Yeah, he's one of those guys who has more "soul" or whatever in his voice than actual singing ability. But I think he's an underrated songwriter; you don't hear him in the same group as the big ones, but he's got some well-written songs out there.

His type of voice sort of reminds me of Bob Dylan's but with more rock and passion.

TAlderson wrote: »

Same. Didn't lapse into weirdness (Lennon), saccharine pop (McCartney), or novelty (Ringo). Just really kept going from where he had left off as a Beatle.

Couldn't of said it better, I think that if The Beatles had kept on going he would of had a lot more to offer. The Traveling Wilburys were a great band, some very decent music from them and some not so decent.

TAlderson wrote: »

The problem is that his music has been co-opted by the potheads and white wannabe rastafarians. They tend to play just his peace and love stuff and skip over the more revolutionary music he made. Anyway, Peter Tosh is the better Wailer if you ask me.

I wanted to say this in my previous post but I though I wouldn't bother getting into it. Wanna-be hash heads are usually the ones today that give him the praise. Saying that I do listen to him but the constant bring up of him a lot gets old.

Rothko

Mister Jingles wrote: »

Wanna-be hash heads are usually the ones today that give him the praise. Saying that I do listen to him but the constant bring up of him a lot gets old.

They're also the ones that say they love reggae but listen only to Bob Marley. Ask them what they think of Lee Perry or Peter Tosh and they probably won't have a clue who you're on about.

BetterCallSaul

TAlderson wrote: »

Music isn't art, it's entertainment. Which is what it should be.

I really don't understand where you're coming from with this, music is an art form, as is film, literature etc.

People are entertained with art, whether that be going to the theatre, museum or to a live music performance.

All art is subjective, but that doesn't mean there is not good and bad art.

If I say my favourite film director is Tarantino and I ask you who's your favourite film director and you say Scorcese. Then fair enough, different strokes and all that...

Now if you were to tell me that your favourite director was the guy who directed The Human Centipede, then I would assume that you either have very little exposure to film or just have really bad taste :pac:.

If you were to say you came to this conclusion because it was the most 'entertaining' film you had seen and that's all you are looking for in a film, that's fine by me.

However, that still doesn't take away from the fact that the film is absolute dross and a truly forgettable piece of art / filmmaking.

johnROSS

The Coronas are extremely boring and generic and are only big in this country because they are irish.

SilverScreen

johnROSS wrote: »

The Coronas are extremely boring and generic and are only big in this country because they are irish.

There's been quite a lot of bands that are only big in this country because they are Irish. The Blizzards, Republic Of Loose and Aslan I'm looking at you guys. There's an obvious reason why people outside Ireland couldn't give a rat's arse about them.

Da Shins Kelly

BetterCallSaul wrote: »

However, that still doesn't take away from the fact that the film is absolute dross and a truly forgettable piece of art / filmmaking.

Have you seen it?! I don't think I'll be forgetting that any time soon!

BetterCallSaul

Haha, poor choice of words.

smokedeels

what has been seen cannot be unseen

Malown

Zero1986 wrote: »

There's been quite a lot of bands that are only big in this country because they are Irish. The Blizzards, Republic Of Loose and Aslan I'm looking at you guys.

I'm looking at The Frames.

SilverScreen

Malown wrote: »

I'm looking at The Frames.

Ah jeez The Frames aren't that bad. I certainly wouldn't lump them in with the others.

flyswatter

Zero1986 wrote: »

Ah jeez The Frames aren't that bad. I certainly wouldn't lump them in with the others.

Some of their stuff is god awful. I personally wouldn't throw Republic of Loose in that category, always thought of them as one of the better Irish bands.

Prettyblack

I also can't stand Bob Marley. And I like reggae, especially dub reggae.

I love Jamiroquai - especially early 90s Jamiroquai - the first three albums are amazing. The musicianship is astounding and lyrically the first album is as powerful as you'll get in any music.

Dire Straits - again, their first three albums (Dire Straits, Communique, Making Movies) are up there with anyone's. Making Movies is especially good, beats Springsteen's blue collar gruntings any day of the week.

On that note - Springsteen. I just do not get it. Grunts his way through everything, there's too many people in his band, Born In The USA is a terrible song and so is Dancing in the dark. How anyone could listen to that for 3 hours is beyond me.

John Mayer - not a very popular person over here, but his albums are great, especially the most recent, Born And Raised. Great guitarist, great writer / producer, his singing is an acquired taste but very easy to get used to.

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.

I hate Thin Lizzy and everything they stand for.

U2's 90s work is as good as the Beatles experimental work.

notnumber

Prettyblack wrote: »

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.
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Riptide movement,we cut corners to name but two..some fantastic Irish musicins out there struggling to get recognition.
this song and video is world class.say its not I dare you.:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCaq32hqYgo

Jimmy Iovine

Prettyblack wrote: »

I also can't stand Bob Marley. And I like reggae, especially dub reggae.

I was talking to my two uncles the other night about reggae. One thought Bob was a genius, and the other thought he was a fraud.

The one who didn't like Bob met Al Anderson in Limerick after a gig and got talking to him for the whole night about reggae and the Wailers and all that. He met another member of the band another night but I can't remember who it was.

I think Al Anderson was playing support for UB40 and he thought Al should have been the main act.

He also mentioned a load of other artists who he thought were great but I forget most of them. The only one I remember was Little Roy (because it was almost like Little Richard :P).

Anyone ever heard of him?

whatifwhynot1

Yep, Riptide Movement have always been one of my faves esp when playing free on Grafton Street ha!

As for unpopular opinions, is unpopular to say I dont really like Guns N' Roses coz I've always hated Axl Rose's voice!?

Fine on 'Sweet Child O' Mine' maybe but in their other songs, it just grated on me!

Rothko

Prettyblack wrote: »

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.

And So I Watch You From Afar

DEFTLEFTHAND

In reference to young Irish bands The Last Tycoons (formerly Porn Trauma) and Floyd Soul And The Wolf looked promising a couple of years back. Haven't heard anything from either since, can anybody enlighten me?

TAlderson

whatifwhynot1 wrote: »

As for unpopular opinions, is unpopular to say I dont really like Guns N' Roses coz I've always hated Axl Rose's voice!?

Fine on 'Sweet Child O' Mine' maybe but in their other songs, it just grated on me!

Always seemed so put on to me. Sweet Child O Mine is OK (although I don't like the whole ending part), but Knockin' on Heaven's Door makes me immediately change songs/channel.

-Tyler

NegativeCreep

I think that Humbug is Arctic Monkeys best album. Seems to be an unpopular opinion among the people I know.

Kold

Guns'n'Roses f*cking suck.

Malown

Irish music scene/media sucks. There's a reason Hot house flowers were a success here yet My bloody valentine had to emigrate.

SilverScreen

Malown wrote: »

Irish music scene/media sucks. There's a reason Hot house flowers were a success here yet My bloody valentine had to emigrate.

I definitely agree on the Irish music media. I have lost count how many times I've cringed after reading an album review or gig article which contained sweeping generalisations and misinformed facts. A little bit of research before writing an article wouldn't do any harm.

As for the Irish music scene, you have to remember that Ireland is a small country so it is difficult to sustain underground music scenes here. There have been some great bands appearing here and there, but for an Irish band to be successful it seems to be either aim for the charts or go to England.

niallo76

Prettyblack wrote: »

I also can't stand Bob Marley. And I like reggae, especially dub reggae.

I love Jamiroquai - especially early 90s Jamiroquai - the first three albums are amazing. The musicianship is astounding and lyrically the first album is as powerful as you'll get in any music.

Dire Straits - again, their first three albums (Dire Straits, Communique, Making Movies) are up there with anyone's. Making Movies is especially good, beats Springsteen's blue collar gruntings any day of the week.

On that note - Springsteen. I just do not get it. Grunts his way through everything, there's too many people in his band, Born In The USA is a terrible song and so is Dancing in the dark. How anyone could listen to that for 3 hours is beyond me.

John Mayer - not a very popular person over here, but his albums are great, especially the most recent, Born And Raised. Great guitarist, great writer / producer, his singing is an acquired taste but very easy to get used to.

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.

I hate Thin Lizzy and everything they stand for.

U2's 90s work is as good as the Beatles experimental work.

?????
Sit down and have a coke-Jesus,what's with the attitude?
You need to be able to give reasons with your crazy statements'I can't stand Bob Marley,I hate Thin Lizzy,no good irish bands-etc
If your highlights of your musical world is Jamiroquai and Dire Straits-i think you are seriously missing out in some fine music-as for Springsteen-i do not think you have heard anything else by him bar the two songs you mention.
In fact,come to think of it I think maybe you don't really like music all that much.There is no point suggesting music to you, because I think that you would diss it-hell,go back and listen to mid 90s U2,John Meyer,Dire Straits and Jamiroquai-if they rock your world-hey knock yourself out-but hey,don't it get a bit lonely listening to the same stuff,considering that Dire Straits and Jamiroquai are no more?

SilverScreen

Prettyblack wrote: »

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.

Only just saw this. Off the top of my head:

Bats
Halves
Twinkranes
Butterfly Explosion
And So I Watch You From Afar
God Is An Astronaut (okay they're not that young)
Enemies
Villagers
Altar Of Plagues
Adebisi Shank

That wasn't so hard.

rcaz

Great young Irish band: Girl Band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axMrhFGj4uo

karaokeman

I don't get why so many people like to write off all Irish bands or any subdivision of music that is either young/old bands or music recorded in Ireland or made by Irish musicians.

Its like the people who say all Irish women are hideous.

Maybe its an act of power to dismiss anything from the same nation as yourself as bad, I personally think its gone too far and people need to just let it go.

DEFTLEFTHAND

NegativeCreep wrote: »

I think that Humbug is Arctic Monkeys best album. Seems to be an unpopular opinion among the people I know.

Its my favourite as well, a much more mature sound. I wasn't really a huge fan of their early work.

JamJamJamJam

Prettyblack wrote: »

There are no good young Irish bands. None. Name one. I dare you.

Villagers, And So I Watch You From Afar, James Vincent McMorrow and God is an Astronaut are good. That's four!

There are no good young Irish bands that get the recognition they deserve, perhaps. And perhaps, this is because so many young people have crap taste in music and are only interested in catchy songs, which sell, at the very least, due to the exposure the songs get.



Opinion (dunno if this is unpopular..): A large proportion of traditional Irish music is uninspired, invariable shite. (Not all of it, mind)