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    #1892
    Temaz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,758 ✭✭✭Temaz


    old hippy wrote: »
    Kid A is much more adventurous than OK Computer but I love them both

    Kid A is the best Radiohead album for me, it blew my mind when I bought it back in the day.


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    #1893
    Pauvre Con
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Pauvre Con


    Radiohead are interesting. I imagine they lost quite a few of their older fans when Kid A was released but gained a lot of new ones. I think following the band right from the early days when actually they weren't that highly thought of means I've probably been more likely to regard The Bends and Ok Computer as their masterpieces. It's only in recent years that I've realised Kid A is so highly revered and a favourite of many. Personally although I loved some of its tracks its always left me cold and I preferred Amnesiac instead. What I wouldn't dispute is that back then they were still a very decent band - up to and including Hail... Long time ago now though.


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    #1894
    cometogether
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    Radiohead are s hite


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    #1895
    karaokeman
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    Ah the ongoing debate over pre Kid A vs Kid A + Post Kid A Radiohead.

    Wonder how the fans of "classic rock" era Radiohead (fans of Pablo Honey-OK Computer) will react to them doing a death metal album.


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    #1896
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    Jonny and Thom were meant to be doing an album with MF DOOM but they've only released 1 'meh' single and I think the wheels might've come off like the DOOM/Ghostface project.


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    #1897
    rcaz
    Registered Users Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭rcaz


    Here's my latest one, chart pop music is actually deadly. I've been listening to loads of UK Garage lately and there are so many tunes that were huge in the charts while still being completely unreal and having integrity and all...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-Fl_xGpyY


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHFFol-8REI


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdcmM9T8vD4


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4eMyOzD9UI


    Such well produced, absolute belters.


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    #1898
    Da Shins Kelly
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    rcaz wrote: »
    Here's my latest one, chart pop music is actually deadly. I've been listening to loads of UK Garage lately and there are so many tunes that were huge in the charts while still being completely unreal and having integrity and all...

    I don't know if it's nostalgia and the whole 'things were better in my day' idea that a lot of people have, but I really feel like there's been a huge dip in the quality of chart music even in just the last decade. Some of the stuff from the 90s and early 2000s was great. There just doesn't seem to be the same level of commitment to making a good pop tune recently. People just churn out any old sh*te.


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    #1899
    cloptrop
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    Da Shins Kelly wrote: »
    rcaz wrote: »
    Here's my latest one, chart pop music is actually deadly. I've been listening to loads of UK Garage lately and there are so many tunes that were huge in the charts while still being completely unreal and having integrity and all...

    I don't know if it's nostalgia and the whole 'things were better in my day' idea that a lot of people have, but I really feel like there's been a huge dip in the quality of chart music even in just the last decade. Some of the stuff from the 90s and early 2000s was great. There just doesn't seem to be the same level of commitment to making a good pop tune recently. People just churn out any old sh*te.
    Lets put this to bed now this happebs every generation . I remember my da giving out murder when mariah careys i cant live if living is without you came out . Saying hiw he had the original on record and it was 7 times better and this new version is just a cover or novelty .
    He was wrong . Theres a gimmick every generation and the best of it gets played for years to come .
    Boy george being a good example or new romantics or the beegees or the beatles were all called **** by the older generation.
    Just because you dont like something doesnt mean its **** .
    Lady gagas stuff will be played for years ,maybe a prof green song or two , the odd beyonce song Im struggling for more examples but thats just cause I dont listen to the pop music channels . White stripes and foo fighters and kings of leon will prob be remembered as the great bands of the last few years .
    And thats the long and short of it . Arctic monkeys are british so the press there will champion them as the greatest band of the generation .
    Its been going on since Elvis get over it dudes .
    I will be happy when Bieber gets relegated to being a clip on a reeling in the year show as a novelty cringy "oh I used to love him "moment .


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    #1900
    Cosmicfox
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    Seeing him plastered all over the NME this week reminds of how much I don't like John Lennon's music.


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    #1901
    Bertser
    Registered Users Posts: 633 ✭✭✭Bertser


    rcaz wrote: »
    Here's my latest one, chart pop music is actually deadly. I've been listening to loads of UK Garage lately and there are so many tunes that were huge in the charts while still being completely unreal and having integrity and all...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kw-Fl_xGpyY


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DHFFol-8REI


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdcmM9T8vD4


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4eMyOzD9UI


    Such well produced, absolute belters.

    Completely agree, but chart music hasn't been good for at least 7 years at this stage. Was blessed to have tunes like that growing up though.


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    #1902
    Pauvre Con
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    cloptrop wrote: »
    Lets put this to bed now this happebs every generation . I remember my da giving out murder when mariah careys i cant live if living is without you came out . Saying hiw he had the original on record and it was 7 times better and this new version is just a cover or novelty .
    He was wrong . Theres a gimmick every generation and the best of it gets played for years to come .
    Boy george being a good example or new romantics or the beegees or the beatles were all called **** by the older generation.
    Just because you dont like something doesnt mean its **** .

    Absolutely bang-on. It makes me laugh/cringe when I hear someone say music was better in the past i.e when they were between the age of say 14-25. It's amazing people often miss the big picture here. Like everyone else I really prefer the music I associate with my youth but I will not slag off what is current (not that I even really listen to anything new anymore) because I know that if I was 20 years younger what I'd be listening to is what's around at the minute. So what becomes important to you is largely dictated by when you're born...


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    #1903
    Da Shins Kelly
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    Pauvre Con wrote: »
    Absolutely bang-on. It makes me laugh/cringe when I hear someone say music was better in the past i.e when they were between the age of say 14-25. It's amazing people often miss the big picture here. Like everyone else I really prefer the music I associate with my youth but I will not slag off what is current (not that I even really listen to anything new anymore) because I know that if I was 20 years younger what I'd be listening to is what's around at the minute. So what becomes important to you is largely dictated by when you're born...

    Not always. I know plenty of people who would not consider any music of today as "important" to them, and in actual fact, far prefer music of older generations. I understand that the bad music of the past has simply been filtered out and forgotten about and the good stuff has just stuck around because it's good, but I was just talking in general about the chart music I can remember growing up and the chart music that I hear now (and I'm not exactly an old person!). I'm still at an age where I hear a lot of chart music even if it's just through socialising and going to parties and such. I was just saying that from what I can hear, the music that rcaz posted was chart music of a few years ago and it does seem slightly better than the majority of what the likes of Nicki Minaj releases, and that is the stuff that dominates the charts now.


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    #1904
    flyswatter
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    I think the music of the past is superior to todays music. Although there was of course bad music at all times, people remember the good stuff generally.

    I don't know if even previous decades stooped as low as Nicki Minaj, Pitbull etc though.


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    #1905
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    flyswatter wrote: »
    I think the music of the past is superior to todays music. Although there was of course bad music at all times, people remember the good stuff generally.

    I don't know if even previous decades stooped as low as Nicki Minaj, Pitbull etc though.

    Obviously there is a lot of good music being made currently, but it does seem like we have to actively seek it out a lot more than we used to (thank god for the internet!).


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    #1906
    Pauvre Con
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Pauvre Con


    It simply sounds to me like both of you are saying that things ain't as good as they used to be... ;)


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    #1907
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Pauvre Con wrote: »
    It simply sounds to me like both of you are saying that things ain't as good as they used to be... ;)

    Maybe it isn't. ;)


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    #1908
    Pauvre Con
    Closed Accounts Posts: 180 ✭✭Pauvre Con


    Welcome to dotage...


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    #1909
    Da Shins Kelly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Pauvre Con wrote: »
    Welcome to dotage...

    At 21 years old. Yay! I am an older soul, I'll admit that.


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    #1910
    RikkFlair
    Registered Users Posts: 3,109 ✭✭✭RikkFlair


    I tried to give Mumford & Sons a chance but it has to be up there with the most boring ****e I've ever heard


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    #1911
    Kold
    Registered Users Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Kold


    More like Mumford & Boring, amirite?


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    #1912
    Stavro Mueller
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    Mick Flannery is seriously over-rated


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    #1913
    Father Damo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,643 ✭✭✭Father Damo


    RikkFlair wrote: »
    I tried to give Mumford & Sons a chance but it has to be up there with the most boring ****e I've ever heard


    Too right. That ****ed it Up This Time song makes me want to rip my ears off.


    As for an unpopular opinion:

    I think Nickelback are quite decent. Certainly a better band than most commercially successful bands like the Chillis and all.


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    #1914
    old hippy
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    I find myself concerned with the new direction "The Very Best" are taking. I doubt if their new stuff can top "Warm Heart of Africa" :(


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    #1915
    SubBusted
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    Father Damo wrote: »
    I think Nickelback are quite decent. Certainly a better band than most commercially successful bands like the Chillis and all.
    So were Love/hate - great song Why do you think they call it dope?


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    #1916
    cloptrop
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,923 ✭✭✭cloptrop


    Guitar solos arnt as good as they used to be .


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    #1917
    karaokeman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,328 ✭✭✭karaokeman


    Lady GaGa is average manufactured pop.

    People make her out to be a genius, and hype about how she writes her own songs, but the songs she does write are rubbish.

    Maybe its because so few pop acts are also songwriters, but there is a difference between writing a good pop song and writing an average one (like Lady GaGa does).

    Incidentally it should be also be known that GaGa did not invent anything herself, most of her outfits and poses are a rip-off of everything Madonna did in the 80s. A fangirl who got lucky, I rest my case.


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    #1918
    Temaz
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    Once again Cheryl Cole has brought out another bouncy, catchy pop single!


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    #1919
    kunst nugget
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    karaokeman wrote: »
    Lady GaGa is average manufactured pop.

    People make her out to be a genius, and hype about how she writes her own songs, but the songs she does write are rubbish.

    Maybe its because so few pop acts are also songwriters, but there is a difference between writing a good pop song and writing an average one (like Lady GaGa does).

    Incidentally it should be also be known that GaGa did not invent anything herself, most of her outfits and poses are a rip-off of everything Madonna did in the 80s. A fangirl who got lucky, I rest my case.

    Getting het up about Lady Gaga's originality is a pretty pointless exercise.


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    #1920
    Da Shins Kelly
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    karaokeman wrote: »
    Lady GaGa is average manufactured pop.

    People make her out to be a genius, and hype about how she writes her own songs, but the songs she does write are rubbish.

    Maybe its because so few pop acts are also songwriters, but there is a difference between writing a good pop song and writing an average one (like Lady GaGa does).

    Incidentally it should be also be known that GaGa did not invent anything herself, most of her outfits and poses are a rip-off of everything Madonna did in the 80s. A fangirl who got lucky, I rest my case.

    I don't know that she "got lucky". She works very hard. Almost all the money she earns is pumped back into her tours. She doesn't really profit from the music she makes really. And she can string a tune together and has quite a good singing voice. You'd never know how well she can sing if it weren't for the acoustic sets she occasionally does though because of how over-produced her records are.

    That said, I won't argue on the originality point. She ain't even a little bit original - she wants to be everyone from Madonna, to Bowie, to Freddie Mercury, to Prince. She's ripped off them all at some point.


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    #1921
    karaokeman
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    I'd certainly agree GaGa can sing very well and I've heard some of those acoustic performances, better than Madonna (who I also can't stand).

    But its the same as saying Adele can sing very well, it takes more than a great voice to be a great artist.


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