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What tree/bush is this

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  • 11-07-2011 12:17pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭


    This tree has just grown out of nowhere in my MiL's garden, she hasn't a clue what it is (me neither ;)) she doesn't know what to do with it, leave it or dig it out, it's growing at a very rapid speed, so she asked me to find out what it is, can anyone tell me what it is)

    Thanks


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Hard to say, I suspect it is a weed/something self-seeded. A pic of the whole plant to see the growth pattern, stems etc would be good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    Or wait till it flowers like it appears to be going to do in pic no. 3.


  • Registered Users Posts: 140 ✭✭pinky 06


    Hi, this looks like an ash tree. They seem to grow anywhere! I'm always picking seedlings of them out of my flowerbeds :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi


    Or wait till it flowers like it appears to be going to do in pic no. 3.

    Yes, I didn't actually notice that, but I was at my MiL's house yesterday and it had started to flower, the buds actually look like those fluffy buds on a willow tree, I dind't have my camera with me so I couldn't take any pic of the buds, but here's more i took a few days ago

    Thanks for your input so far


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Its not an ash, they have completely different leaves, I think it is a dogwood. The stem is like willow, but again the leaves are usually narrower.


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    That's definitely Willow :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,441 ✭✭✭planetX


    +1 willow. They self seed absolutely everywhere, and grow at speed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Ophiopogon


    Could be a goat willow with the broader leaves but I would have thought it would be deeper toothed than it looks...

    As someone said see how it flowers/fruits


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    I'd still put money on dogwood, be interesting to see the flower


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    +1 for Dogwood.
    This is a different one but look at the leaves. Opposite and curved veins
    cornus_florida_frt800semi2.jpg


    But then the 'fluffy buds" = Catkins?
    So it must be a birch
    Betula_albosinensis_var_septentrionalis_RB4.JPG

    No the leaves are alternate and veins are straight


    But they are serrated......


    Its a Dogwood!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    You had me worried there for a minute - then I got to the bottom of the post! I'd give you a 'thanks' but your pic is too big and has put the button off the page!


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    Your welcome!

    I've discovered a flaw in the system, I cannot edit that post either because the picture has pushed all the icons off the bottom of the page!:)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Willow for sure - here are some pictures of my Willows - I use them every day!:)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Apologies for the poor quality images :o


  • Registered Users Posts: 660 ✭✭✭Git101


    Handy way to help identify dogwood.
    Fold a leaf across the veins until it cracks, gently pull the 2 pieces apart. It the veins remain intact in the gap it's dogwood.


  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    slowburner wrote: »
    Apologies for the poor quality images :o

    Hmmm so you should apologise, this is important stuff :D

    I may have to reluctantly concede you may be right. We await flowers.


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi



    But then the 'fluffy buds" = Catkins?

    Catkins that's the word I was looking for, all I could think of was "fluffy buds", I've really been living in Germany too long, I'm forgetting how to speak English :eek:

    But, anyway, thanks a bunch folks, I'll take a look in MiL's garden today or tomorrow to see if the bush is flowering, but from what I've seen, I think it might just be a (goat???) willow, it looks a lot like the photos that slowburner posted, but a few of the Dogwood photos I found on the net look pretty convincing too...

    ..well at least we seemed to have narrowed it down to a choice of two, that a hell of a lot further than I was previously.

    Thanks again folks


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,791 ✭✭✭prospect


    I thought dogwoods usually have multiple stems growing from the base, as opposed to a single main stem like in the photo.

    I'd say willow to.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    looksee wrote: »
    Hmmm so you should apologise, this is important stuff :D

    I may have to reluctantly concede you may be right. We await flowers.
    I accept your concession, oh Sleuth of the Shrubs, reluctant though it may be.
    ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    Well done Ophiopogon ( with an honorable mention to Slowburner ) for the correct answer.
    Fluffy Buds?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,448 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    HANG ON A MINUTE! Its a bit late in the year for willow to be flowering isn't it? Whereas dogwood...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,189 ✭✭✭Ophiopogon


    Oh please let me be right...my plant id has been shocking lately!!!


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    Ophiopogon wrote: »
    Oh please let me be right...my plant id has been shocking lately!!!
    You are, you are, you are.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    looksee wrote: »
    HANG ON A MINUTE! Its a bit late in the year for willow to be flowering isn't it? Whereas dogwood...
    I don't think they are flowers at the intersection of the leaves and the stem - they are leaf buds. The picture shows my Willows as they are today: a week or so ago the leaf buds looked just like the buds in the OP's picture.[Embedded Image Removed]


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi


    I can offer a (very blurry :() photo of the white buds (catkins???)


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 5,220 Mod ✭✭✭✭slowburner


    A bit blurry alright but even more evidence to support the case for Willow.


  • Registered Users Posts: 422 ✭✭Nonmonotonic


    Apanachi wrote: »
    I can offer a (very blurry :() photo of the white buds (catkins???)

    See link in #21. It appears to be Goat Willow. Your MiL can now get a goat.:)


  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭Apanachi


    Your MiL can now get a goat.:)

    Oh, I wish she would!!!!

    We used to have a pet billy goat when I was a child, he was so cool, I loved him to bits.


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