NoGi Entry Categories based on training hours

Killme00

Forgive me if this is a stupid idea, but it may be possible to reduce the risk of unintentional sandbagging in NoGi competitions by asking the following on the entry form:

1). On average, how many hours a week do you train?
2). How many years of previous grappling training do you have?(Grappling,Wrestling, BJJ, Judo, Sambo, etc)
3). When did you start training (DD/MM/YYYY)?
4). Date of competition((DD/MM/YYYY))?
5). If you hold a belt in the BJJ, what colour? If not, please select white


Then apply this information to a predetermined range in excel to say which category someone should enter in the competition.

See the attached for an example where i have used the following range:

Beginner <200 hours
Intermediate >200 < 500, or Blue
Advanced >500 < 1000, or Purple
Elite > 1000, or Brown/Black

Thoughts?

For the example attached, i have attributed an additional weighting of
0.33*average training hours*number of years experience. This should bring previous grappling experience like Judo or Sambo into play when deciding which category to enter.

Hanley

I like the idea. But I don't like the division it tells me I should enter!

Barry.Oglesby

Considering most people don't bother their hole spelling their clubs/names correctly, fill in the incorrect weight categories, or frequently "have problems paying" with the simplest of entry systems, I wouldn't have a lot of confidence that this would work.

Sandbagging is inevitable but it's only ever one or two guys per tournament in the novice division. Just leave them to their comfort zone it's their loss in the end.

SDTimeout

Probably just a few more round robin style tournaments would work. While I really like the thought of this idea as I've gone from training 3 times a week at BJJ to 1. So wouldn't have the confidence to enter any tournaments until I'm up in Dublin because I know the other guys in my weight would be training 4/5 times a week.

Killme00

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

Considering most people don't bother their hole spelling their clubs/names correctly, fill in the incorrect weight categories, or frequently "have problems paying" with the simplest of entry systems, I wouldn't have a lot of confidence that this would work.

Sandbagging is inevitable but it's only ever one or two guys per tournament in the novice division. Just leave them to their comfort zone it's their loss in the end.

It's easy enough to make it a drop down. It would reduce unintentional sandbagging, not the other kind

Oh and Hanley. 120hours and white belt is still Beginner/Novice, isnt it? Edit: its borderline which excel deems as intermediate

Clive

I don't believe that there is such a thing as unintentional sandbagging. A guy with five years of wrestling knows he shouldn't be in the beginner division. Someone who's been training for ten months and makes excuses about only training twice per week and one of those is in a gi and he was sick for two weeks and their instructor was away for a week and zzzzzzz ... know that they don't belong in the -6 months division.

They're just codding themselves.

Killme00

Clive wrote: »

They're just codding themselves.

I agree, they have no sole

Barry.Oglesby

Killme00 wrote: »

I agree, they have no sole

They should go see a brain sturgeon

Jason McCabe

Maybe they have Herring difficulties

R.Kellz

This thread turned into a bit of damp squid.

Clive

R.Kellz wrote: »

This thread turned into a bit of damp squid.

A typical example of what's wrong with this plaice.

lukeyjudo

Clive wrote: »

A typical example of what's wrong with this plaice.

There's something fishy about that comment...

arybvtcw0eolkf

Clive wrote: »

A guy with five years of wrestling knows he shouldn't be in the beginner division..

I've more than five years Judo experience, but when it comes to BJJ I flounder and feel like a fish out of water.

Jason McCabe

EEL change his TUNAs soon as he is caught.

These scamps should get REEL

pablohoney87

What about guys that are very strong too.
Do their mussels make up for experience?:o

arybvtcw0eolkf

Slightly off topic, but is Tom HADDOCK still floating about the plaice?.

Jason McCabe

I always thought he was a little Koi.

Didn't he end up with Annette?

Dyr

Boston Spoiled Dancer wrote: »

Slightly off topic, but is Tom HADDOCK still floating about the plaice?.

Your man with the mullet?

Jason McCabe

He is a while sandbagger in MMA, he is still fighting SEA class

arybvtcw0eolkf

Jason McCabe wrote: »

He is a while sandbagger in MMA, he is still fighting SEA class

Not sandbagging.

I seen him in Mazonis chipper, he was getting battered.

Hanley

Boston Spoiled Dancer wrote: »

Not sandbagging.

I seen him in Mazonis chipper, he was getting battered.

Salt of the earth sorta bloke tho I hear.

Jsut felt like I should chip in.

Dyr

Boston Spoiled Dancer wrote: »

Not sandbagging.

I seen him in Mazonis chipper, he was getting battered.

I'd say he'll bait ya for that, probably sink a heel hook in and all

You'll be needing a sturgeon when he's done

Dyr

Barracuda avoided all this if he'd put OP straight before he'd started the thread

arybvtcw0eolkf

Bambi wrote: »

I'd say he'll bait ya for that, probably sink a heel hook in and all

You'll be needing a sturgeon when he's done

See weed have have problems with weight division's, he's a middle weight - I'm heavy and I've bigger fish to fry..

:cool:

Dyr

Ah right, I reckon eel be plankton it. You'd reef outta him :P

Barry.Oglesby

Bambi wrote: »

Boston Spoiled Dancer wrote: »

Not sandbagging.

I seen him in Mazonis chipper, he was getting battered.

I'd say he'll bait ya for that, probably sink a heel hook in and all

You'll be needing a sturgeon when he's done

He has a tendency to clam up under pressure though

Dyr

Barry.Oglesby wrote: »

He has a tendency to clam up under pressure though

So if he finds himself out of his depth, he might just turtle like heath herring? That won't kelp him. Iguana see this fight happening now

R.Kellz

Lads come on, get this thread back on topic and stop being so shellfish, although it has been a little ray of sunshine the last few days.

Madman08

R.Kellz wrote: »

Lads come on, get this thread back on topic and stop being so shellfish, although it has been a little ray of sunshine the last few days.

Yeah, this thread turned into a load of Pollocks !!

MarkFairman

Are you lads codding me?