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Stinicker

After a tonne of humming and hawwing I have decided I am sick of it and am going to build a new pc, my old desktop is too slow for anything interesting anymore and I just want something that is lightning fast a bit like that SSD youtube video.

My friend who is an IT Guru will help me build it and reckons you'll build the daddy of computers for between €1,500 to €1,700. So I will bite the bullet and pay it, I paid €1,500 for my old computer back in 2004 and infairness it was the dogs danglies back in the day and I got brilliant service from it and it still works fine for day to day, but is no good for any video stuff or the like.

Anyways my new PC, where to start?

I want it to be fast and brilliant 1080p graphics, I am not much of a gamer but we may aswell give it good graphics.

I have a 2TB Harddrive already but I think I will get another as they are dirt cheap and give it 4TB of storage.

Most of the Solid State Drives go up to 120GB, is it possible to get say a 250GB SSD drive for Windows 7 and the usual my documents and stuff?

I will add a Bluray rewriter

USB3.0

I am not big into IT but I have read alot of the i7 chipset, would this be a good proccy to go for? Should I get a faster one or a slower one and overclock her? I'm not sure about overclocking as I want it to be reliable and not having parts burning out and things.

Water, Air or Liquid Nitrogen Cooling? My friend reckons he'll cool his new pc he's planning to build with liquid nitrogen? I think he's b'sing me!

Am I being realistic with my pricing because I went this evening and opened my Medion HTPC which I was planning to substitute as my main pc and then I discovered it did not have a second hard-drive bay as I expected as I was going to fit my new 2TB harddrive to it to give it more storage; disheartened I am thinking about just building something new instead, unless it is possible to get an adapter to covert the spare DVD bay into a Hard drive bay.

deconduo

Do you need a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. Or just the box.

Here is a sample build for just the box:

Total build cost: €1,605.22 + €30 shipping
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155 €175.28
ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX €131.57
2 x Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express €279.75
Cooler Master HAF X, ATX, ohne Netzteil €157.07
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9 €57.02
Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5") €406.34
XFX PRO850W Core Edition Full Wired Power Supply €85.45
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet €32.99

Stinicker

deconduo wrote: »

Do you need a monitor, mouse, keyboard etc. Or just the box.

Here is a sample build for just the box:

Total build cost: €1,605.22 + €30 shipping
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155 €175.28
ASRock P67 Extreme4 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX €131.57
2 x Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express €279.75
Cooler Master HAF X, ATX, ohne Netzteil €157.07
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9 €57.02
Crucial M4 256GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5") €406.34
XFX PRO850W Core Edition Full Wired Power Supply €85.45
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet €32.99

Just a box, as I have everything else, thanks I'll take a look!

Solitaire

Stinicker wrote: »

I am not much of a gamer but we may aswell give it good graphics.

deconduo wrote: »

2 x Sapphire HD 6970 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express €279.75

:pac:

Most of the Solid State Drives go up to 120GB, is it possible to get say a 250GB SSD drive for Windows 7 and the usual my documents and stuff?

Win7 isn't going to need 250GB :eek::p You could fit a lot of games on a drive that size, that's for sure. Not sure if a 250GB SSD is too good for storage per MB though Just stick your media on the Hitachi

I am not big into IT but I have read alot of the i7 chipset, would this be a good proccy to go for? Should I get a faster one or a slower one and overclock her? I'm not sure about overclocking as I want it to be reliable and not having parts burning out and things.

Sandy is different: you can't OC any of them except the fastest models. As for the i7, the big pull is HyperThreading, so it really depends on what you do with your PC, because unless you use it as a hardcore workstation or protein folding you won't see a dramatic improvement with the i7-2600k big enough to justify the big bump in price over the i5-2500k. Games and (to all intents and purposes) basic usage won't benefit much at all from HT. Heavily threaded CPU-intensive tasks are another story altogether.

On the other hand, one advantage of being limited to multiplier-based overclocking is that its fairly simple and takes some of the maths out. You need a k-series CPU to do so and should get a nice cooler for it if you want to crank it up a lot. With the possible exception of the i7 and its HT even the quad Sandies are crazy-frugal oin power and don't pump out that much heat as a result

Water, Air or Liquid Nitrogen Cooling? My friend reckons he'll cool his new pc he's planning to build with liquid nitrogen? I think he's b'sing me!

Unless you're a hardcore OCer, air is fine. Water can get better results if you go the full distance, but that's many hundreds down the tube (no pun intended ). And your friend won't be using LN2 for daily computing tasks Such machines are rarely ever used (with conventional cooling reinstalled) for any normal task in their entire lifetime; they're simply OCd to the eyeballs and benched before the LN2 cooks off. That's really the only kind of OCing that drastically shortens component longevity.

Monotype

You'd have to be ordering liquid nitrogen every day or store large tanks around your house and then standard tubing wouldn't do you much good at those temperatures. Impractical.

I think 240GB SSDs are a waste of money at the moment. 128GB should be enough for all your major programs - unless you have specific needs for it?

Here's my choices around that range:

Total build cost: €1,308.66 + €30 shipping


FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE R3 Black Pearl|€89.75
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155|€175.28
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet|€32.99
Crucial M4 128GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5")|€178.49
Sapphire HD 6950 Dirt3, 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express|€221.39
LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail|€77.69
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3, Intel Z68, ATX|€137.81
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9|€57.02
Super-Flower SF550P14PE Golden King Modular 80plus Platinum 550W|€123.30
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€149.03
WD Caviar Green 2TB Sata 6Gb/s|€65.91


I didn't know if you wanted windows or not, but I added it anyway. That leaves you with a bit of money to spare. You could spend it on a bigger SSD, but I don't think that they're great value for money at that capacity. You could always go down the watercooling route, but this PC should be very quiet. You may need to pick up a few additional fans with it. The PSU is extremely efficient and will suit the system well, even with some overclocking and upgrades. Given that you're not a gamer, I presume that you won't need to add new graphics cards so choosing a higher rated one will be unnecessary.

IrishMetalhead

Monotype wrote: »

You'd have to be ordering liquid nitrogen every day or store large tanks around your house and then standard tubing wouldn't do you much good at those temperatures. Impractical.

I think 240GB SSDs are a waste of money at the moment. 128GB should be enough for all your major programs - unless you have specific needs for it?

Here's my choices around that range:

Total build cost: €1,308.66 + €30 shipping


FRACTAL DESIGN Gehäuse DEFINE R3 Black Pearl|€89.75
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155|€175.28
Scythe Mugen 2 Rev. B, CPU-Kühler, für alle Sockel geeignet|€32.99
Crucial M4 128GB SSD 6,4cm (2,5")|€178.49
Sapphire HD 6950 Dirt3, 2GB GDDR5 PCI-Express|€221.39
LG BH10LS30 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail|€77.69
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3, Intel Z68, ATX|€137.81
8GB-Kit G.Skill RipJaws-X PC3-12800U CL9|€57.02
Super-Flower SF550P14PE Golden King Modular 80plus Platinum 550W|€123.30
Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate 64-Bit (SB-Version)|€149.03
WD Caviar Green 2TB Sata 6Gb/s|€65.91

I didn't know if you wanted windows or not, but I added it anyway. That leaves you with a bit of money to spare. You could spend it on a bigger SSD, but I don't think that they're great value for money at that capacity. You could always go down the watercooling route, but this PC should be very quiet. You may need to pick up a few additional fans with it. The PSU is extremely efficient and will suit the system well, even with some overclocking and upgrades. Given that you're not a gamer, I presume that you won't need to add new graphics cards so choosing a higher rated one will be unnecessary.

perfect option exactly what i was going to suggest
plus free copy of dirt 3 with the graphics card ftw