heifer still coughing after dosing

k mac · 14-07-2011 12:40pm #1

have a heifer that was coughing with what i presume was hoose and dosed her over 10 days ago with closamectin pour on and she is still coughing . Why would this be , is this dose not effective or is it still taking effect ? It did make a light shower of rain about 2 hours after dosing but i don t think it would effect it .

bob charles · 14-07-2011 12:44pm

maybe a touch of chronic pneumonia or else she still has some form of parasites internally. probably the latter

greysides · 14-07-2011 1:37pm

What are the rest like?

Hoose is unlikely to affect just one animal. There may be one worse than others but there should be 'steps of the stairs' down to normal. There is often weight loss with it when the onset is slowish rather than explosive.

Treated Hoose will still cause coughing for some time afterwards but there should be a good improvement initially followed by a slow retreat.

If you've had pneumonia indoors then it could be a chronic case, as mentioned. They are prone to relapsing once it sets into them badly initially. Lots of weather stress about at the moment.

whelan1 · 14-07-2011 1:41pm

would there be a chance that she didnt get the pour on ? maybe got through with out getting it ?

k mac · 14-07-2011 2:37pm

Thanks for the replys. She definitely got dosed .The others are all fine.Greysides the same heifer had pneumonia bad very nearly lost her, but that was last november

bob charles · 14-07-2011 6:13pm

k mac wrote: »

Thanks for the replys. She definitely got dosed .The others are all fine.Greysides the same heifer had pneumonia bad very nearly lost her, but that was last november

ah well then I would be of the opinion its chronic pneumonia as I said above. Maybe best to consult your vet as I should be saying what to use without seeing the animal and im no vet.

k mac · 14-07-2011 6:30pm

bob charles wrote: »

ah well then I would be of the opinion its chronic pneumonia as I said above. Maybe best to consult your vet as I should be saying what to use without seeing the animal and im no vet.

Would she not be showing other signs if it was this ? She is eating no problem and is not on her own in the corner of the field. Also she is not empty looking from hunger or arched over her back like i have seen before

polod · 14-07-2011 8:36pm

ive no faith in pour on for ''dosing'' apart from lice......if i were you id get out my dosing gun and give her a good strong fluke and worm dose down the neck

Tora Bora · 14-07-2011 8:46pm

polod wrote: »

ive no faith in pour on for ''dosing'' apart from lice......if i were you id get out my dosing gun and give her a good strong fluke and worm dose down the neck

Agreed. Dosing with pour on is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on.:eek:

dar31 · 14-07-2011 9:09pm

Tora Bora wrote: »

Agreed. Dosing with pour on is a bit like washing your feet with your socks on.:eek:

id tend to use pour on a good bit, along with white doses, and find it good enough.
but that closmectin stuff is useless, had a few cans of it left in the shed that was ordered by mistake. said id better use it up on some calves. worst thing every, ya would swear the calves were never dosed, will use it up on some older stock in the fall.

pakalasa · 14-07-2011 9:21pm

Guys, when you use an ivermectin type pouron, you will see the calves coughing more than normal in the week or so after doing. This is them coughing up the worms from their stomach, so it may appear that the pouron is not working.
I did all my calves at the start of June, with Noromectin pouron, except for one wild one I couldnt get in at the time. A few weeks later you could see the difference in him compared to the others.
My experience anyway!

whelan1 · 14-07-2011 9:59pm

k mac wrote: »

Would she not be showing other signs if it was this ? She is eating no problem and is not on her own in the corner of the field. Also she is not empty looking from hunger or arched over her back like i have seen before

ITS ONLY WHEN THEY COME UNDER PRESSURE LIKE IN THE WARM WEATHER THAT IT SHOWS UP , WE HAVE ONE OURSELVES:rolleyes:

greysides · 14-07-2011 11:41pm

k mac wrote: »

She definitely got dosed .The others are all fine........... the same heifer had pneumonia bad very nearly lost her, but that was last november

I know it's playing the probability game a bit.............but I'd say you have your answer.

There may have been permanent consequences of her recovery that have come back to haunt her.

Time to talk to your vet, I think.

heifer still coughing after dosing

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