Warning Warning new tarmac

pachey100

Just a quick warning a friend of mine was driving her car along a new stretch of tarmac and went completely out of control went up a bank into a tree. There were three separate incidence like this in one day according to a council member. Its caused by the new type of tarmac being used when the it gets hot then wet all the oils comes to the surface making it fecking lethal. I had a little back wheel wobble the other day on a new bit but was alright.

This all happened around west cork.

So good luck and stay safe

Cuddlesworth

pachey100 wrote: »

Its caused by the new type of tarmac being used when the it gets hot then wet all the oils comes to the surface making it fecking lethal.

I'm rather skeptical.

pachey100

Why?

brian plank

pachey100 wrote: »

Just a quick warning a friend of mine was driving her car along a new stretch of tarmac and went completely out of control went up a bank into a tree. There were three separate incidence like this in one day according to a council member. Its caused by the new type of tarmac being used when the it gets hot then wet all the oils comes to the surface making it fecking lethal. I had a little back wheel wobble the other day on a new bit but was alright.

This all happened around west cork.

So good luck and stay safe

well theres yer problem! :cool:

MargeS

pachey100 wrote: »

when the it gets hot then wet all the oils comes to the surface making it fecking lethal.

This happens on road surfaces anyway. You're supposed to be very cautious driving on a road that has been wet by rain after a dry spell for the exact reason you describe above.

jameshayes

MargeS wrote: »

This happens on road surfaces anyway. You're supposed to be very cautious driving on a road that has been wet by rain after a dry spell for the exact reason you describe above.

yup, one of the first things I was taught by my oul fella about driving... that and not to change gears in corners (except at mondello haha)

unclebill98

Yep, my first fall was because of dry roads for months then hot weather.

Lesson learnt that day.

rameire

it happens on all new tarmac'd road surfaces
especially roads that do not have their final surface as the bitumen is dense and so the water cannot escape as easily.

also as above, if it has been dry and then it rains, all the grease and dirt laid down over the previous days will make the road slippy,

it is nothing to do with a new road surface type.

amacca

rameire wrote: »

it is nothing to do with a new road surface type.

entirely true in relation to the OP

but when the council does the whole "lay loose chippings over a surface and let the traffic flatten it down" thing...then that's a new road surface type that should be banned

this type of surfacing lethal for bikes...especially after its been down for a couple of weeks and the bits with the semi loose covering in the middle and very edge are almost indistinguishable from the bits where the traffic have compacted the chippings down...and especially where they do short sections of a stretch of road where one minute you're zipping along on a perfectly normal road and the next you have entered a gravel test track unawares.

sometimes I think the local county council are out to get me.....

then there's the whole leaving small sections of gravel on the entrance to roundabouts ---- got caught with that once ---never again.


god how I hate and fear (in equal measures) unexpected patches of gravel.

rameire

Kildare county council did the Lets throw some stones onto a road,
between Athy and Carlow and between Athy and Stradbally last year.
they spent weeks doing it and prob cost a fortune, it is a year later and it is badly worn and in worse state than it was previously.

they were nice roads to drive on, on a bike but as you say they are nasty to drive on now, there is no grip in the corners and my bike has slid quite a bit on those roads.

Del2005

amacca wrote: »

entirely true in relation to the OP

but when the council does the whole "lay loose chippings over a surface and let the traffic flatten it down" thing...then that's a new road surface type that should be banned

this type of surfacing lethal for bikes...especially after its been down for a couple of weeks and the bits with the semi loose covering in the middle and very edge are almost indistinguishable from the bits where the traffic have compacted the chippings down...and especially where they do short sections of a stretch of road where one minute you're zipping along on a perfectly normal road and the next you have entered a gravel test track unawares.

sometimes I think the local county council are out to get me.....

then there's the whole leaving small sections of gravel on the entrance to roundabouts ---- got caught with that once ---never again.


god how I hate and fear (in equal measures) unexpected patches of gravel.

But it's OK they put up 25km/h signs to protect us. They are lethal and illegal as the councils leave them, but since it's only bikers who are in danger nobody cares.

Chaos Marine

This is pretty typical for newly laid tarmac. If it looks glossy or shiny be careful or avoid.

unclebill98

Newly laid road in Cavan has had the top layer put on 4 weeks ago. Tons of small rubble in the middle of the road. Had to be very careful and the car up me arse does not help....!

I wonder how longer before they come sweep it up!

amacca

unclebill98 wrote: »

I wonder how longer before they come sweep it up!

wonder no longer

they will not sweep it up.....they will leave it there until the traffic eventually compacts it into the skim of bitumen below

its a great way to surface roads that cuts out that pesky business of having to roll the surface and lay adequate amounts of bitumen:eek:

seanybiker

unclebill98 wrote: »

Newly laid road in Cavan has had the top layer put on 4 weeks ago. Tons of small rubble in the middle of the road. Had to be very careful and the car up me arse does not help....!

I wonder how longer before they come sweep it up!

Awww ye cavan people wont know yourselves with the potholes gone

chasm

amacca wrote: »

entirely true in relation to the OP

but when the council does the whole "lay loose chippings over a surface and let the traffic flatten it down" thing...then that's a new road surface type that should be banned

this type of surfacing lethal for bikes...especially after its been down for a couple of weeks and the bits with the semi loose covering in the middle and very edge are almost indistinguishable from the bits where the traffic have compacted the chippings down...and especially where they do short sections of a stretch of road where one minute you're zipping along on a perfectly normal road and the next you have entered a gravel test track unawares.

sometimes I think the local county council are out to get me.....

then there's the whole leaving small sections of gravel on the entrance to roundabouts ---- got caught with that once ---never again.


god how I hate and fear (in equal measures) unexpected patches of gravel.

+1.
Have any of you driven through carrick-on-shannon in the last few years?
I think the county council must have had a few thousand litres of what can only be described as extra slippy gloss paint lying around a store room. They painted all the disabled parking spaces in this blue, slippy when wet paint and in the last few months they have gone cycle path mad and painted "logos" all around the roads around the town with this lovely slippery paint, as if we didnt have enough to watch out for with gravel, potholes, strategically placed manholes, idiots swinging car doors in our path and random idiots who walk out in front of you as if your motorcycle has a cloaking device on it :mad:

*have had one of those weeks on the road, so apologies for the rant lol

unclebill98

Yeah, using cars as steam rollers!

As for Cavan pot holes, I think the lad who goes around spray painting them to warn drivers is back out.

It's actually really helpful.

Also, the more trips I do to more I find man holes in the middle of the road, must have been when the widen the road but some are in really tricky places!