Fashion Police - when is it ok to ride deep rims?

Nwm2

Any rules on when it is acceptable to ride deep section rims (I'm thinking 50-60mm Zipp 404s or Mavic Cosmic Carbones etc)?

Lumen

Always.

Haterz be hatin', deep rollers be rollin'.

07Lapierre

TT's only ( mainly because i don't own a Pair of 404's

kennyb3

Only when commuting and wearing full team kit and you have hairy legs.

Nwm2

kennyb3 wrote: »

Only when commuting and wearing full team kit and you have hairy legs.

Well, I don't commute, or have team kit (although HTC Highroad is tempting me). But I do have extremely hairy legs. Hopefully the rims will be some bit of a distraction.

531

When you want to be known as Fred.

Chips Lovell

In a race

JacksonHeightsOwn

imo, when you can afford them, its then acceptable

i never begrudge anybody for having uber pimp gear, if you can afford it, get it, thats my moto

Vélo

It's ok when you can keep the speed up an not let anyone pass you.

Imagine the shame of someone passing you by on a set of wheels that only cost a few euros:eek:

dario28

531 wrote: »

When you want to be known as Fred.

Based on this Definition of a Fred http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fred_%28bicycling%29

I dont think your statement is right , am open to correction though !


I didnt know what Fred was until I googled it there !

emtroche

Only on windy days.

Biopace

Never, it's like driving a Nascar to the shops

bcmf

emtroche wrote: »

Only on VERY windy days.

Fixed

Bambaata

I have to confess to commuting on my Zipp 808's recently with bag on back and all!! In my defence i was heading straight out after work to train and my rear aksium is dangerously buckled now and am waiting on a new pair to come through in the coming days! Hence i have to train on them until the new set arrive (have tried trueing but they are completely ceased and spokes snap when trying to tighten!)

cantalach

Spend half the cost of the wheels on a January training week in Tenerife and the other half on an April training week in Mallorca. This will make you go much faster than any amount of aero assistance. And you'll have a better tan.

kennyb3

Bambaata wrote: »

I have to confess to commuting on my Zipp 808's recently with bag on back and all!! In my defence i was heading straight out after work to train and my rear aksium is dangerously buckled now and am waiting on a new pair to come through in the coming days! Hence i have to train on them until the new set arrive (have tried trueing but they are completely ceased and spokes snap when trying to tighten!)

Its okay as a triathlete you are a lost cause anyway

petethedrummer

cantalach wrote: »

Spend half the cost of the wheels on a January training week in Tenerife and the other half on an April training week in Mallorca.

Why does one need to go away to train?

BTH

petethedrummer wrote: »

Why does one need to go away to train?

I think it's something to do with work getting in the way otherwise.

Nwm2

cantalach wrote: »

Spend half the cost of the wheels on a January training week in Tenerife and the other half on an April training week in Mallorca. This will make you go much faster than any amount of aero assistance. And you'll have a better tan.

God I hate advice like this.

cantalach

petethedrummer wrote: »

Why does one need to go away to train?

Well, yeah, strictly speaking you don't. But advantages include:

The weather is much better and the scenery, thought not necessarily any better, is certainly different. Both of these conspire to provide extra motivation.

Even if you take leave from work to train, if you're staying at home then kids and/or odd jobs to be done around the house will get in the way. And if your boss knows you're not gone away then you're more likely to get hassled by work sh1t.

Having gone to the expense and hassle of going somewhere you're more likely to make it count and put in a lot of quality miles!

dermiek

Vélo wrote: »

It's ok when you can keep the speed up an not let anyone pass you.

Imagine the shame of someone passing you by on a set of wheels that only cost a few euros:eek:

cycle around Galway with them. I guarantee you, I won't be the one passing you. No matter how slow you go.:D:D:D

Khannie

dario28 wrote: »

I didnt know what Fred was until I googled it there !

I didn't even think of googling it. That wikipedia page is hi-flippin'-larious!

Lusk Doyle

How about using when indoors, on the turbo trainer, going up a mountain stage???

Must be clad in full kit with the window open, the blind up and the lights on for passers by to see.

123oclock

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR9aHEEVZYU&feature=related

Murph100

Crap !! ... all that glueing and hassle and now I cant use them

tomasrojo

Khannie wrote: »

I didn't even think of googling it. That wikipedia page is hi-flippin'-larious!

In the UK, an early usage of the word is the more common—used by 'serious' roadies (cyclists who ride racing bicycles, and may themselves participate in competitive events) to refer to (stereotypically) bearded, sandal-wearing, cyclists without any high-tech gear. These Freds are not generally total novice cyclists, and often ride fairly frequently. This usage still survives in the US. David Bernstein, presenter of The FredCast says the term is "used by 'serious' roadies to disparage utility cyclists and touring riders.

In this sense, I am a Fred.

531

Ah yes, the old 'fred' thing can have both negative and positive connotations. There are plenty of freds in Ireland, mostly 'negative'!

monkeyslayer

I must confess to riding my road bike with said deep rims on my ten minute commute into the city this morning, in jeans and shoes and tshirt... was getting some ghastly glances from the couriers! haha i wanted to shout 'my beater had a puncture and i was already late!' not looking forward to going home at five when the real deals will be ploughing there way up the rathmines road

studiorat

monkeyslayer wrote: »

I must confess to riding my road bike with said deep rims on my ten minute commute into the city this morning, in jeans and shoes and tshirt... was getting some ghastly glances from the couriers! haha i wanted to shout 'my beater had a puncture and i was already late!' not looking forward to going home at five when the real deals will be ploughing there way up the rathmines road

How very Italian;)

Anyway, without going off topic too much, shouldn't there be an official boards designation for Freds.

Is it :
a) Sandal wearing steel frame mudguard man.
b) Gaffer tape the torch onto the handle bar caravan wing mirror man.
or
c) Fat banker on the Pinarello man.

cipo

Fred definition varies among many...

Pro team kit, hairy legs, socks... It goes right down to the very smallest of details!!


Check out velominati's rules... Very funny read!! ( google: velominati ) I obey all rules at all times!!

As for deep rims, Ive been a tart lately and being riding mine & my best bike into work when weather is good. And I love it!!! ;-)

mahoo

Khannie wrote: »

I didn't even think of googling it. That wikipedia page is hi-flippin'-larious!

i love this bit

'The roots of the term "Fred" are unclear, though some believe it originated from[2] a touring rider named Fred Birchmore from Athens, GA. In 1934-35, Birchmore rode around the world on a bicycle he named Bucephalus. Birchmore and Bucephalus traveled approximately 25,000 miles. Bucephalus is now on display at the Smithsonian Institution in Washington, D.C.[3][4][5][6] In one famous incident while touring in Italy, Birchmore passed a bunch of racers during a race he had crossed paths with by chance. And despite going up hill on his loaded 50 pound non-racing bike, he passed the finish line well ahead of the racers. The cheering crowd at the finish line assumed him to be the winner of the race.'


my bike shall be known as Bucephalus from here on

mahoo

studiorat wrote: »

How very Italian;)

Anyway, without going off topic too much, shouldn't there be an official boards designation for Freds.

Is it :
a) Sandal wearing steel frame mudguard man.
b) Gaffer tape the torch onto the handle bar caravan wing mirror man.
or
c) Fat banker on the Pinarello man.

in a merging of the two topics being discussed, i am going to create my own set of deep rims with gaffer tape. the ultimate Fred touch

studiorat

Time for this picture again methinks.

Reckon the saddle's too high though.



http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wb8bAl1P-N0/SWugw1G1saI/AAAAAAAAFkg/FqC2s2uPQac/s1600-h/world

ednwireland

how about this

Chips Lovell

At least he appears to be shaving his legs these days.

ednwireland

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

At least he appears to be shaving his legs these days.

more than i do

dario28

monkeyslayer wrote: »

I must confess to riding my road bike with said deep rims on my ten minute commute into the city this morning, in jeans and shoes and tshirt... was getting some ghastly glances from the couriers! haha i wanted to shout 'my beater had a puncture and i was already late!' not looking forward to going home at five when the real deals will be ploughing there way up the rathmines road

Any chance you can do the same again tomorrow , gotta ride my bike in going to etape hibernia after work , at least if there are 2 of us stopped at the lights people may think its a race !

dario28

ednwireland wrote: »

how about this

How many euro rules can one millionaire break in one go....he disgusts me

Chips Lovell

dario28 wrote: »

Any chance you can do the same again tomorrow , gotta ride my bike in going to etape hibernia after work , at least if there are 2 of us stopped at the lights people may think its a race !

I'll stop you right there. Riding deep rims on a leisure event is just as embarrassing as riding them on a commute.

dario28

Vladimir Kurtains wrote: »

I'll stop you right there. Riding deep rims on a leisure event is just as embarrassing as riding them on a commute.

Ha , well this "leisure event" gives you timing chip's and timing chips say one thing says one thing to me.......hammerfest

Fazz

I think it's ok to ride deep dish rims whenever you want.

They aren't cheap, so you may as well get use out of them instead of just a handful of times dying the season.

Another note, my tt bike has the brake pads set up to match tubular deep dishes, if I swap to clincher training rims it means an adjustment as they can't go as close to the frame and brake pads need adjusting. Not as easy as 1.2.3 when crank is in way of rear low mounted brakes.

So at moment it's road bike for long runs or hills etc, tt bike on training rim on turbo sessions and tt bike on deep rims when out for fast session or checking out race routes etc.