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The Walking Dead - Season 2 [AMC - US] *Spoilers*
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A hooded figure with two zombies chained to her coming out of nowhere to decapitate a walker with a sword is as badass as T-Dog firing off a shotgun in the background ? Not a chance.
This Michonne or whatever seems like a good character, there's a mystique about her and I think people will be very keen to learn about her. Unlike most other characters which are background filler and boring as fcuk.
the only mystique about her is that you couldn't see her face ... because they hadn't cast the role at the time of shooting
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the only mystique about her is that you couldn't see her face ... because they hadn't cast the role at the time of shooting
No mystique about who she is, where she's from, why she had pet zombies, is she from the other group ? Is she on her own ? Is she a nutjob ? no ? We know all that do we and just havent seen her face yet ? :rolleyes:
We know nothing about the character and on her first appearance we were shown nothing about her character. Thats the mystique not the fact we didnt see her face. Even seeing her face she would still be a mysterious character.
If she turns out to be a dud then so be it but talking about killing off a character who has had 5 seconds of screen time is jumping the gun a bit. And comparing calling her badass based on that 5 seconds screen time to the complaints about the poor writing throughout the first two series is just stupid.0 -
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Deleted User wrote: »"When Jesus talked about the resurrection of the dead, I thought he had somethin different in mind"
Haha loved that line:Dlove hershel hope he never dies. Think hes turned out to be one of the most complex,interesting and unannoying characters on the show. Really thought he was gona bite it when the zombie was coming up behind him and I was actually shouting at the telly for him to get out of the way:p. Like maggie aswell, she was annying at the beginning but now I really like her:)0 -
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Well it seems to me that every little decision the group has taken so far has led to someone on the net calling the characters or writers stupid. From Lori going for a drive into town to find her husband, Dale going for a strole at night, to Rick deciding to save a kids life. None particularly galling to me. So I can only imagine what people would have said if Miconne never existed in the comic, and in the show Andrea suddenly decided to chop up a couple of zombies and chain them to herself to mask her smell and go for a walk through the woods, and not only that but it actually worked and she became a sort of robed ninja with a sword? Well the makers would be laughed at all over the net. But as I said TV and Comic's are very different medium and what works in one won't work in another.And comparing calling her badass based on that 5 seconds screen time to the complaints about the poor writing throughout the first two series is just stupid.
Well if it died in the womb, presumably it would turn. But it wouldn't have any teeth or nails so we wouldn't have an alien type scene for certain. Might just kill Lori slowly unless Herschel performs an undead abortion...? Might be a tad dark... Dale would have certainly been pro-choice but presumably Herschel would be pro-(un)life. Hmmmmm, this is sounding quite good now...Haha
But on a more serious note does anyone else think the baby might be born a zombie and maybe kill lori ? I think that definitely a possiblity.0 -
uncleoswald wrote: »Well it seems to me that every little decision the group has taken so far has led to someone on the net calling the characters or writers stupid. From Lori going for a drive into town to find her husband, Dale going for a strole at night, to Rick deciding to save a kids life. None particularly galling to me. So I can only imagine what people would have said if Miconne never existed in the comic, and in the show Andrea suddenly decided to chop up a couple of zombies and chain them to herself to mask her smell and go for a walk through the woods, and not only that but it actually worked and she became a sort of robed ninja with a sword? Well the makers would be laughed at all over the net. But as I said TV and Comic's are very different medium and what works in one won't work in another.
Yeah but none of that happened did it
. All that has happened is a new character appeared that we know nothing of, I havent read the comics so I dont know who she is or what her story is I can only comment on what I have seen which is a hooded figure chained to a couple walkers with a sword, theres nothing to say she's a ninja ffs. So me saying she seems badass based on what I saw is not at odds with me criticising poor writing in other parts of the show. 0 -
Well now I'm confused too. Sorry wasn't quoting you at all when I mentioned 'badass.' Must have picked up your use of it sub consciously, and it has been used a lot on this thread. I was just referring to nit pickers in general who seem to have a disconnect to what is sensible and realistic between the show and the comic.
Yeah but none of that happened did it. All that has happened is a new character appeared that we know nothing of, I havent read the comics so I dont know who she is or what her story is I can only comment on what I have seen which is a hooded figure chained to a couple walkers with a sword, theres nothing to say she's a ninja ffs. So me saying she seems badass based on what I saw is not at odds with me criticising poor writing in other parts of the show.0 -
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Well it's the only possible explanation I can think of that she would look like that. Unless she was a dominatrix in her previous life and they were her pet gimps that she liked to keep chained up behind her. But when the zombie apocalypse happened she fled but not before her gimps were attacked and disarmed but she lost the keys to their chains so now she has to walk around with them all of the time. Yes I made up the ninja bit, but it was a joke on how she was introduced, like some sort of Jedi. As the poster above said, it was like a different genre (pretty much agree with everything else also, particularly Herschel)
Yeah but none of that happened did ituncleoswald wrote: »So I can only imagine what people would have said if Miconne never existed in the comic, and in the show Andrea suddenly decided to chop up a couple of zombies and chain them to herself to mask her smell and go for a walk through the woods, and not only that but it actually worked and she became a sort of robed ninja with a sword?All that has happened is a new character appeared that we know nothing of, I havent read the comics so I dont know who she is or what her story is I can only comment on what I have seen which is a hooded figure chained to a couple walkers with a sword, theres nothing to say she's a ninja ffs
So yes I found her few seconds so far unrealistic in the context of the show, much more so then a lot of things that the show has previously been criticized for. I think they will tone her down next season, or at least I hope they do.Well I'd be a nit picker in general but the comic doesnt come in to it. Most of the criticism in this thread has little to do with the comic and only relates to what is sensible and realistic in the context of the show, the show isnt the comic. The bits you mentioned that people were criticising are not at odds with liking or being intrigued by this new character so I still dont understand what they have to do with one another.0 -
uncleoswald wrote: »Well it's the only possible explanation I can think of that she would look like that. Unless she was a dominatrix in her previous life and they were her pet gimps that she liked to keep chained up behind her. But when the zombie apocalypse happened she fled but not before her gimps were attacked and disarmed but she lost the keys to their chains so now she has to walk around with them all of the time. Yes I made up the ninja bit, but it was a joke on how she was introduced, like some sort of Jedi. As the poster above said, it was like a different genre (pretty much agree with everything else also, particularly Herschel)
So yes I found her few seconds so far unrealistic in the context of the show, much more so then a lot of things that the show has previously been criticized for. I think they will tone her down next season, or at least I hope they do.
I'm struggling to find what's unrealistic considering you only saw her for a few seconds? Is there any bit of elaboration as to why it's unrealistic?
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It's a question of tone I think, rather than realism: let's ignore for a moment the fact she's a character from the comic, has great popularity etc etc. Considered by those who don't know or care about the comics, her appearance - and more specifically the manner in which she's presented - is jarring against the rest of the series & the tone it conveyed throughout. The darkened, hooded cloak; the samurai sword; the dramatic pose: it just felt like someone from a Grindhouse film appeared to save the day.Adolf Hipster wrote: »I'm struggling to find what's unrealistic considering you only saw her for a few seconds? Is there any bit of elaboration as to why it's unrealistic?
Like I said myself, foolish to read too much into a fleeting appearance, but just it's tone was all wrong. Almost comic-book like in fact (yes yes, I know)0 -
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Mr SmartAssSir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »so if in season 3 the star trek enterprise beamed down commander worf and lt data to single handedly save earth from the zombie threat, you'd be cool with that?
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Adolf Hipster wrote: »Mr SmartAss
How can two people singlehandedly do something?
Data single handedly saves them. Worf suggests things and the crew ignore him. That is the way of trek.
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It's a question of tone I think, rather than realism: let's ignore for a moment the fact she's a character from the comic, has great popularity etc etc. Considered by those who don't know or care about the comics, her appearance - and more specifically the manner in which she's presented - is jarring against the rest of the series & the tone it conveyed throughout. The darkened, hooded cloak; the samurai sword; the dramatic pose: it just felt like someone from a Grindhouse film appeared to save the day.
Like I said myself, foolish to read too much into a fleeting appearance, but just it's tone was all wrong. Almost comic-book like in fact (yes yes, I know)Sir Digby Chicken Caesar wrote: »so if in season 3 the star trek enterprise beamed down commander worf and lt data to single handedly save earth from the zombie threat, you'd be cool with that?Data single handedly saves them. Worf suggests things and the crew ignore him. That is the way of trek.Jesus, this argument is getting tiresome on this thread by those trying to forgive any kind of wobbly logic that appears int he show; this idea that just because the show features zombies, that suddenly anything goes and we should just shut up if things seem a little off. I'm guessing then if Rick appears next season riding atop of a dinosaur that's ok - it's not like it's War and Peace eh? Maybe next season we'll learn that T-Dog can fly. But that's ok! Sure it's only a show with zombies in it!
That's not my point. It's the tone; her appearance was silly & cheesy in its execution. Silliness and cheesiness did not appear to be the tone they were going for up until that point. Like I said, not wanting to overanalyse, it was just dumb.
Are you honestly comparing a woman who's backstory you know nothing about carrying a sword, to T-Dogg flying?
I honestly think you're reading too much into the apparent "tone" of it, let yourself enjoy the badassness of a heroine with a sword instead of being so serious.0 -
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Uhm, no, I don't think you're actually reading my posts. I'm mocking the previous poster who seems to think that because the show features zombies, anything goes & we should just wave it away no matter how jarring it might appear.Adolf Hipster wrote: »Are you honestly comparing a woman who's backstory you know nothing about carrying a sword, to T-Dogg flying?
I honestly think you're reading too much into the apparent "tone" of it, let yourself enjoy the badassness of a heroine with a sword instead of being so serious.
And I already said it's foolish to read too much into her appearance, I'm just criticizing the silly shift in tone during the episode. I didn't watch the show for bad-assery tbh, so you'll forgive me if I didn't squeal with excitement because oh look - a chic with a sword!:rolleyes: 0 -
Adolf Hipster wrote: »Mr SmartAss
How can two people singlehandedly do something?
jesus man it's a tv show about a zombie apocalypse, stop nit picking 0 -
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as much of a critic as I have been of this show, that kind of plot holing doesn't actually bother me overmuch. yeah it's an issue but it's easier to write off as mistakes or the reality of having 5 million writers writing different episodes every season, it's the bad characters that annoy me mostly 0
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Andrew Lincoln is an impressive actor!
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