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GBFM news & pronounciation

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    #62
    Malice
    Registered Users Posts: 15,065 ✭✭✭✭Malice


    antoobrien wrote: »
    always knew you were d4 at heart mal
    Me, Torquin and Fiochra are loike, totally, not amused roysh! :p


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    #63
    doubleglaze
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    Yes you pointed it out but you are wrong.

    'ea' is a vowel in gaeilge, and is pronounced as 'ah'. There are no fadas in the name 'Bearna' to indicate any elongation, as you seem to be doing with the 'a'.

    Barna- pronounced Bar-na. Bar as in public house or iron bar. Na as in Na Fianna.
    Bearna- gaeilge, meaning gap. Pronounced exactly the same way as the anglicised version, Barna.
    You clearly do not know what you are talking about in this instance.
    There are many exceptions to the pronunciation rule you mention:

    teacht
    fearr
    bearna

    Ask any native Irish speaker from Cois Fharraige, of native Irish ancestry on both sides of the parental line (going back a few generations), how to pronounce the following sentence

    Tá bearna sa gclaí
    and you will find that not one of them will pronounce bearna as "bar-na".

    We are not talking here about how Americans, nor Europeans, nor Irish with poor pronounciation of Irish might pronounce the word. Scríobh chomh caighdeánach agus is féidir agus labhair chomh canúnach agus is féidir is the rule for Gaeilge. In the Cois Fharraige canúint, where Bearna lies or used to lie, the EA in Bearna is pronounced like an á. On Galway Bay FM, therefore, the proper pronunciation of the Irish word Bearna is as I've stated.
    Now you can dispute that all you like, but there above are the facts and suggest you spend a good deal more time listening to good speakers of Irish from your Gaeltacht before continuing this discussion with me and until then I won't waste my time trying to set you straight on the matter.

    By the way, you are also wrong on your pronunciation of Na as in Na Fianna. It is not pronounced as ea, but as a guta neodrach, more like the "u"-sound in the word snuff.


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    #64
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    In Cois Fharraige it is promounce like Bjawr-Nuh .

    Thats why the posh people say something like Bwarna not Borna Malice....see to that wax man :)

    Only plebs say Baa ( as in sheep) Barna <sniffs>


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    #65
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    doubleglaze wrote: »
    In the Cois Fharraige canúint, where Bearna lies or used to lie, the EA in Bearna is pronounced like an á.

    "yá", surely, in this case? As in 'byárnuh' as opposed to 'bárnuh'?


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    #66
    Sponge Bob
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 25,234 ✭✭✭✭Sponge Bob


    Arnó nach b'shin é dúras a chuint :p


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    #67
    snubbleste
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    :D


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    #68
    Average-Ro
    Registered Users Posts: 1,161 ✭✭✭Average-Ro


    beeintheknow wrote: »
    Yes you pointed it out but you are wrong.

    'ea' is a vowel in gaeilge, and is pronounced as 'ah'. There are no fadas in the name 'Bearna' to indicate any elongation, as you seem to be doing with the 'a'.

    Barna- pronounced Bar-na. Bar as in public house or iron bar. Na as in Na Fianna.

    Bearna- gaeilge, meaning gap. Pronounced exactly the same way as the anglicised version, Barna.

    It's not pronounced exactly the same way. I'm a native speaker, raised in Na Doireadh near Ros-a-Mhíl. My parents are both native speakers, one from Ros-a-Mhíl and one from Inis Mór; so there's a long line of unbroken native speakers there going back god knows how long.

    Barna is pronounced how it's spelled.

    Bearna is pronounced "byor-na". Doubleglaze's post says it all.

    EDIT: Read back over that after I posted it, sounded very snobbyish; apologies for that!


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    #69
    doubleglaze
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    Ficheall wrote: »
    "yá", surely, in this case? As in 'byárnuh' as opposed to 'bárnuh'?

    Yes. Agreed. It is pronounced "yá" in this case.


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    #70
    inisboffin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    snubbleste wrote: »
    :D

    The word itself (gap as Bearla) definitely has a slightly different pronunciation in Munster/Leinster/Ulster Irish.
    Now in RTE for example, the announcers may be from anywhere, so you might get 'RóisÃ*n Dove' from one and 'Rosh-in Doo' from another for the same place in Galway.
    If you have parents from two different dialect reigions or go to school in multiple reigions, you may have a hybrid Irish dialect.

    What is the standardised one? I thought that was Munster? A lot of people I know have a 'mixed' accent, despite being 3rd gen Galway etc


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    #71
    doubleglaze
    Registered Users Posts: 405 ✭✭doubleglaze


    There is no national standardised accent, as of yet. Each local dialect is the correct pronunciation standard for that area.


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    #72
    Mrs OBumble
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    Sheesh, if you lot cannot agree, what hope is there for the rest of us.

    I'm sticking to the Anglicized version, have absolutely no idea how the weird letter combos I'm seeing here are supposed to sound!


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    #73
    inisboffin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    doubleglaze wrote: »
    There is no national standardised accent, as of yet. Each local dialect is the correct pronunciation standard for that area.

    that's what I thought, yet most 'language tape' type thing seems to be Munster (bar the excellent Cois Farraige one by I think O'Flaherty?).
    Also we all definitely do not pronounce Barna the same way in ENGLISH in this country. Think of Kerry vs Dub vs Galway.


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    #74
    antoobrien
    Registered Users Posts: 6,106 ✭✭✭antoobrien


    Maybe we should all just listen to nuacht tg4 at 7 to hear how different each reporter is. There are very few comments on here that are outright wrong, it comes down to what one is used to hearing


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    #75
    Ficheall
    Registered Users Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    inisboffin wrote: »
    'RóisÃ*n Dove'

    How the hell do you pronounce that?


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    #76
    randylonghorn
    Registered Users Posts: 29,509 ✭✭✭✭randylonghorn


    Ficheall wrote: »
    How the hell do you pronounce that?

    "Drink!"

    >_>


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    #77
    [Deleted User]
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    Ficheall wrote: »
    inisboffin wrote: »
    'RóisÃ*n Dove'

    How the hell do you pronounce that?

    r a-squiggly line three I s a-squiggly line asterisk n dove

    obviously!

    unless formatting came out weird on my phone?


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    #78
    inisboffin
    Registered Users Posts: 4,390 ✭✭✭inisboffin


    boneyarsebogman wrote: »
    Ficheall wrote: »
    inisboffin wrote: »
    'RóisÃ*n Dove'

    How the hell do you pronounce that?

    r a-squiggly line three I s a-squiggly line asterisk n dove

    obviously!

    unless formatting came out weird on my phone?

    Ha ha! My phone seems to translate fadas to Klingon! I meant 'Ro-sheen'!

    This is a time when IPA would come in handy (both the Phonetic Alphabet AND the Pale Ale I'm thinking!)


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    #79
    galah
    Registered Users Posts: 2,215 ✭✭✭galah


    antoobrien wrote: »
    Maybe we should all just listen to nuacht tg4 at 7 to hear how different each reporter is. There are very few comments on here that are outright wrong, it comes down to what one is used to hearing

    well, I would, if I could get TG4 (we can pretty much see the station from our house, and still can't get the channel!). :p Ts!


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    #80
    Sponge Bob
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    galah wrote: »
    well, I would, if I could get TG4 (we can pretty much see the station from our house, and still can't get the channel!). :p Ts!
    That means you are still pointing a VHF aerial at Maghera for RTE1 and 2 only. Most people around there got a UHF aerial 15 years ago and pointed it at Casla which transmitter even supplies digital HD telly nowadays :)


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    #81
    Fuinseog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Malice wrote: »
    Nah, more of a Borna methinks ;).

    Borna symbolising the new and trendy village. Bearna has a touch of sheep farmer about it.


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    #82
    Fuinseog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    barryd09 wrote: »
    GBFM is for people 500+ years old.
    Truly awful.

    CHEWEM...aarrrrggghhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    no, its for local Galwegians who want local information.


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    #83
    Sponge Bob
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    Fuinseog wrote: »
    no, its for local Galwegians who want local information.

    Not in Connemara it isn't. We have "An Radio" which is far more professional with quality presenters.


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    #84
    Fuinseog
    Registered Users Posts: 5,371 ✭✭✭Fuinseog


    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    Not in Connemara it isn't. We have "An Radio" which is far more professional with quality presenters.

    Rna G is just for the county while GBFM is for the citz and countz. you are not enamoured with Keith finnegan I take it. Teresa Mannion and Bernadette Prendergast are okay


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    #85
    gandroid
    Registered Users Posts: 418 ✭✭gandroid


    Fuinseog wrote: »
    Rna G is just for the county while GBFM is for the citz and countz. you are not enamoured with Keith finnegan I take it. Teresa Mannion and Bernadette Prendergast are okay

    I think Prendergast is awful myself...the tone of her voice is painful...and she elongates cerain words for no reason... "in Gal - waaayyyyy".


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    #86
    Sponge Bob
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    GBFM is but a serial purveryor of execrable enunciations and of monotonic jingles mixed too high. That sonic mush is deliberately interspersed with dirge like music that was not even popular the first time round in the 1960s ......and that is before they put on the standard retard voice for the funerals. It is fundamentally unlistenable to if one has an IQ anywhere over ambient room temperature as measured in C's not F's.

    I don't even know who these presenters are because I simply cannot listen to them. I only ever catch fragments of it when I miss Classic Fm or RnaG on either side of it while scanning.


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    #87
    Mars Bar
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    It's the jingles that make me :mad:

    Good god but they are atrocious...


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    #88
    JoeA3
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    mars bar wrote: »
    It's the jingles that make me :mad:

    Good god but they are atrocious...

    Playing one great song after another.... your music, your station :D


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    #89
    CrowdedHouse
    Registered Users Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭CrowdedHouse


    gandroid wrote: »
    I think Prendergast is awful myself...the tone of her voice is painful...and she elongates cerain words for no reason... "in Gal - waaayyyyy".

    Is that the wan who says 'You're up to dayy-ithhh with galwaybay fm'

    Seven Worlds will Collide



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    #90
    schween
    Registered Users Posts: 444 ✭✭schween


    6 Boards pages on how to pronounce Barna :eek:


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    Mars Bar
    Registered Users Posts: 31,893 ✭✭✭✭Mars Bar


    schween wrote: »
    6 Boards pages on how to pronounce Barna :eek:

    3 if you know how to use boards properly. ;)


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