Royal Dublin Fusiliers

phaethon

Today's arrival.

I tried to register on the badges forum but looks like it takes some time.

Anyway, does anyone know the period when it was in use? Also is it rarer (some how it went pretty high on ebay).

R.Dub.Fusilier

this RDF shoulder title is pre WW1 , around 1910 i think. its other ranks and in general RDF stuff costs more than others , probably with the exception of the connaught rangers.

Ebay is not the best place to buy badges as there can be a lot of s**te badges for sale .

phaethon

Thanks R.Dub.Fusilier;).

I just got pair together!:D

Regarding ebay you are probably right - I just got large RDF cap badge what is surely modern copy. Ah, didn't cost me much and I should take it as a learning cost. More on the way as well, I hope these are fine.

Thanks again for advice!

Timo

phaethon

Finally got registered on britishbadge forum and I must say it is brilliant study place and guys in there are very well knowledget. I am enjoying it a lot!

Today I got post 1910 regimental shoulder badge set together. Only upper one is covered some kind a corrosion. What you guys think - to clean it or I should leave it like it is?

phaethon

And my most expencive badges...

Officer's collar badge from 1904-1922 period for a later pattern officer's service dress.

Unfrtunately looks like left side badge is slightly different size then others, so for a display, I have to still get the right match. I have't decided yet should I look different variations as well or not. Most likely one of the right side badge is over for a future sale or trade.




Left size badge has as well interesting tag inside - as a seller on ebay stated, its from the Gaunt Pattern Book Archive Collection and was sold at a recent auction by respected Militaria Specialists and Auctioneers Dix, Noonan and Webb.

phaethon

Hi all,

Today's finds...

Based on the book "Crown and Company 1911-1922" badges and buttons page, I presume it's full dress tunic collar grenade.

Maybe someone can advise me regarding the period when it was in use and was it for enlisted men, officer's collar tab or bouth.

phaethon

Now, like I understand from the previous posts, this is a post 1910 regimental level made, Officer's shoulder title?

phaethon

Here is today's pick ups from Dublin .

Box

1. Regarding "The Crown and Company" book, I am thinking it is the Regimental Souvenire (match)box. Does anyone have seen something like that before and also does someone can advise me regarding the value if have seen similar ones on sale (I afraid I paid too much).

2. Under there is interesting massive list from 4th Battalion Officer's Mess account list with the names (just prefect for a research or confirmation to the persons to be in service at this time). Its dated February 1918.

phaethon

Like I had been advised, crown on the box is Victoria era. So, box can be maybe from Boer War period?

My question remains the same - what it is exactly and approx how much it would be worth (just for my own piece of mind - I afraid I paid too much:P).

Regards,

Timo

phaethon

Here is my next RDF cap badge and I would like to hear some advice... it is very bright and with the pin system on the back. It was sold by decent seller on ebay- endici.

What to you think, is it something what don't make sence or something what may be was in use around 1918-1921? Just because the pin system I think if it is real, it has to be from late RDF exist period because cost of producing, etc.. Just during the war time probably they have to keep down production costs and fancy pin system wasn't available? What you think guys, have you seen this example before?

phaethon

And my last find - like I experienced, few guys bid on it on ebay and it went pretty high. I was the lucky one who scoop it aynway.

My main question is, what it is, where it was used, etc? Like I have been learned, it has to be something post 1881.

Regards,

Timo

phaethon

And one group photo. I started looking RDF insignia just about 3 months ago and I have had come up with the stuff below - money well spent!

arnhem44

phaethon wrote: »

And my last find - like I experienced, few guys bid on it on ebay and it went pretty high. I was the lucky one who scoop it aynway.

My main question is, what it is, where it was used, etc? Like I have been learned, it has to be something post 1881.

Regards,

Timo

This badge is in the same style as the Dublin County Light Infantry Militia badges,I've seen many different counties having similar style badges but all have lugs on the back for fixing.

phaethon

arnhem44 wrote: »

This badge is in the same style as the Dublin County Light Infantry Militia badges,I've seen many different counties having similar style badges but all have lugs on the back for fixing.

Hi,

Thank you very much! Because its not shown anywhere as a waidly used insignia, can it be something what some militia battalions used, when they formed 3-5th Battalions for RDF? Also seller stated that it is from the Gaunt Pattern Book Archive Collection what sold at auctioneers Dix, Noonan and Webb.

Regards,

Timo

arnhem44

It most likely would of been an early pattern badge when those battalions of the RDF were formed and may not of been used for very long.These I think are hat badges so as a guess these would of been done away with as different types of uniform and head wear were introduced.

R.Dub.Fusilier

i had this pic up before but cropped it to show the RDF medals only, i have added a few RDFs to my collection since the pic was taken. there are some trios and broken trios ,pairs and singles, i'm not a medal snob. i recently got a VM to an RDF from Derry who was KIA on the 1st day of the Somme, i am glad to have it as they are a rare thing and i got it for a song. i have various ammounts of information on the recipiants and they range from POWs KIAs injured etc..

Step23

Very impressive collection R. Dub! I saw that 1st day of the Somme Dub medal when it was on ebay, you got it a very good price!

Stephen

R.Dub.Fusilier

Step23 wrote: »

Very impressive collection R. Dub! I saw that 1st day of the Somme Dub medal when it was on ebay, you got it a very good price!
Stephen

Thanks. tell me about it . when i looked at it on the day of ending i expected it to be through the roof but i was lucky that no one spotted it or didnt want it. sometimes you can be lucky on ebay and get a bargan but at the moment RDF stuff is being pushed too high and being over priced and some buyers paying over the odds for items.IMO

phaethon

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

Thanks. tell me about it . when i looked at it on the day of ending i expected it to be through the roof but i was lucky that no one spotted it or didnt want it. sometimes you can be lucky on ebay and get a bargan but at the moment RDF stuff is being pushed too high and being over priced and some buyers paying over the odds for items.IMO

Ok guys, when it was on ebay??? I check ebay pretty often now and I didn't spot it. Regarding prices on ebay, I think I am one of them who is paying way too much for RDF items at the moment. Just as a beginner RDF collector, I have to start from somewhere. However, as a some sets like McIntosh and Devlin's, this money was most likely worth every penny. Beginner's luck?
I have at the moment lined up 4 RDF sets and singles to research, before I post them up. One of them was very unlucky man to became KIA less then a week before end of the Great War! Also my very first RDF officer's set is waiting research. I will post it up when I have his papers and all the main info together.

To learn and study, I have spent as well lots of money last months for a books and materials. Also I have now RDF medal roles what I have (like) to work with; I am in the middle of doing for myself Excel database with the RDF soldiers. VERY time consuming - there is lots of different sources what I have to compare, etc. Also different sources has some mistakes and to get them right, takes time. I hoping to have coming half an year initial database together (at the moment just a little pit more then 2000 names) and my ultimate aim would be to start working with the unit statistics.... age groups by battalions, locations, reinforecements, bravery awards by battalions, etc, casualties by months and so on! This would be something new what I haven't seen much around and would great to discuss and share with other RDF entusiast.

Regards,

Timo

phaethon

R.Dub.Fusilier wrote: »

i had this pic up before but cropped it to show the RDF medals only, i have added a few RDFs to my collection since the pic was taken. there are some trios and broken trios ,pairs and singles, i'm not a medal snob. i recently got a VM to an RDF from Derry who was KIA on the 1st day of the Somme, i am glad to have it as they are a rare thing and i got it for a song. i have various ammounts of information on the recipiants and they range from POWs KIAs injured etc..

Looked your collection again and it is just amazing - I presume upper rows are all trio sets for a one person?

Any officer's sets, any POWs?

Regards,

Timo

R.Dub.Fusilier

phaethon wrote: »

Ok guys, when it was on ebay??? I check ebay pretty often now and I didn't spot it. Regarding prices on ebay, I think I am one of them who is paying way too much for RDF items at the moment. Just as a beginner RDF collector, I have to start from somewhere. However, as a some sets like McIntosh and Devlin's, this money was most likely worth every penny. Beginner's luck?
I have at the moment lined up 4 RDF sets and singles to research, before I post them up. One of them was very unlucky man to became KIA less then a week before end of the Great War! Also my very first RDF officer's set is waiting research. I will post it up when I have his papers and all the main info together.

To learn and study, I have spent as well lots of money last months for a books and materials. Also I have now RDF medal roles what I have (like) to work with; I am in the middle of doing for myself Excel database with the RDF soldiers. VERY time consuming - there is lots of different sources what I have to compare, etc. Also different sources has some mistakes and to get them right, takes time. I hoping to have coming half an year initial database together (at the moment just a little pit more then 2000 names) and my ultimate aim would be to start working with the unit statistics.... age groups by battalions, locations, reinforecements, bravery awards by battalions, etc, casualties by months and so on! This would be something new what I haven't seen much around and would great to discuss and share with other RDF entusiast.

Regards,

Timo

timo its up to you what you want to pay for something. it used to be all irish stuff that went sky high but that seems to have slowed down now, but the RDF stuff keeps going higher and higher.

what are you going to do with the data base when you finish it? you might want to contact the RDF Association when you finish it they do some good work.

the RDF Somme KIA was up a couple of months ago. i have been looking for one for years.

R.Dub.Fusilier

phaethon wrote: »

Looked your collection again and it is just amazing - I presume upper rows are all trio sets for a one person?

Any officer's sets, any POWs?

Regards,

Timo

the top row are 1915 trios and under broken trios, i think , some pairs and lots of singles.

i dont have any officers , only officer i have is Tyneside Irish. I have a few POWs , dont know how many.

phaethon

I don't know to you have sources to check 2nd Bn. POWs addresses but if you want, send me a message with their names and numbers, I can let you know their home or next in kind addresses if I have them.:cool:

phaethon

Here is one really nice silver sweetheart badge. Maker marked "STERLING SILVER" and "H.H" (most likely Harrison Brothers & Howson?).
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Lion has tail up what is pretty interesting fact I think. Pre 1900 piece?

Text under "R.DUBLIN.FUSILIERS".

phaethon

And cap badges... all different makers or periods:

Buataisi

https://www.easyliveauction.com/auction_catalogue.cfm?itemID=16834BFCCD4943D6FC00FDEBDEFD052ED5D5C1EF&auction=16834BFCCD4943D6FC00&action=6&rangepage=10&currentpage=1

phaethon

Here is my today's finds.

Sweetheart badge. It is very small but the details are amazing!

phaethon

And here is my oldest RDF related insignia what I got today!

arnhem44

OK lads since there's a thread dedicated to the RDF I thought I'd post this one up for ye.The photo is from 1922 and has seen better days however an extremely scarce shot depicting the RDF trooping the colours most likely taken at (I presume)Windsor Castle at the handing over of the colours to the King when the regiment was disbanded.As can be seen each man is displaying there medals.

R.Dub.Fusilier

excllent photo A44.