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Earthquake Swarm (11000+) El Hierro, Canary Islands

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭fizzycyst


    And it will say, the tidal wave will reach as far as and just past South Kilkenny. All those in the city will be saved while the Sodom and Gormorrahs of Piltown, Mooncoin and Fiddown will rest with Atlantis beneath the ocean waves.

    We're fecked in Waterford so then:eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,016 ✭✭✭✭vibe666


    fizzycyst wrote: »
    We're fecked in Waterford so then:eek:
    it's going to have to be renamed waterworld. or underwaterford. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 852 ✭✭✭blackdog2


    vibe666 wrote: »
    it's going to have to be renamed waterworld. or underwaterford. :pac:

    or just "water"


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    The swarm has suddenly haulted since last night. Only a handful of quakes have been recorded since midnight, a huge change from yesterday.

    No more updates on this unless there is some sudden change again.

    David Calvo on twitter:
    I´m absolutely taken aback by El Hierro seismic swarm behaviour....completely spasmodic, now activity plunging down....really really weird.

    Edit :

    I spoke too soon, it's started back up again...

    CHIE_2011-08-05_06-07.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Total number of earthquakes is over 1,450+ but thats not including hundreds of smaller quakes that haven't been added yet.

    No sudden change in depth and the most recent CO2 emission data is not above normal. Haven't heard anything new about ground deformation so apart from the earthquakes there is nothing else that might point towards an eruption, so the alert status remains at Green on El Hierro.

    Earthquakes have been getting a bit bigger in the last hour... :


    CHIE_2011-08-05_09-10.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,204 ✭✭✭eskimocat


    The posts of the activity are really interesting. The starting and stopping is intriguing, but I cannot help picture some Mr Bean type character plugging in and out his TV or something... and inadvertenly causing all the activity :D


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    http://bigthink.com/ideas/39589
    ANDY SCOLLICK on August 5, 2011, 6:55 AM
    @NARANCO (on August 3, 2011, 7:54 PM) & others

    “In reference to the discussion about safety that went on under the article about the Canarian Islands and the swarm at El Hierro (thank you Erik for the Article and the references!), I came across an article about testing a system for tsunami warnings in the Mediterranean and the NW Atlantic region=”

    I’ve asked the Geological Survey of Ireland for clarification regarding Ireland’s participation in next week’s test, and what the status is regarding development of national tsunami early warning system. Will update folks when I have a reply. Ciao

    I can guess the answers will be, "What test?" and "When the recession is over." Hope I'm wrong. Not looking forward to belting down the motorway in the wrong direction to scoop up my parents and grandmother and then trying to find my way to Powers the Pot.


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 PuterMan



    Maybe the 'hole' is because it is melt. You won't get quakes in melt, although you should get quakes above if there is inflation going on.

    By the way over 24,000 quakes at Baja California after the mag 7.2 and it is still there!


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    PuterMan wrote: »
    By the way over 24,000 quakes at Baja California after the mag 7.2 and it is still there!

    Thats true, but in fairness California is a very different to El Hierro.

    Take a look at the total number of the earthquakes recorded for the entire Canary Islands region, not just El Hierro, over the past 25 years. And this was only up to July 31st. There have been about 500+ more earthquakes in just the past couple of days on top of the 2011 figure here.

    35li5ar.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 PuterMan


    Thats true, but in fairness California is a very different to El Hierro.

    Take a look at the total number of the earthquakes recorded for the entire Canary Islands region, not just El Hierro, over the past 25 years. And this was only up to July 31st. There have been about 500+ more earthquakes in just the past couple of days on top of the 2011 figure here.

    This is of course very true, I was merely illustrating that the number itself is small compared to some.

    The area has certain similarities to other volcanic hotspots, where swarms in their 1000's are not unknown. Unfortunately records of such small earthquakes going back over such a timespan are not consistent or accurate, and give no indication of whether this is a unique occurrence (very doubtful) or just another geological day in the life of a volcano.

    We tend to forget that our time-scales are very insignificant to Mother Earth.

    Interesting to see how it pans out though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,186 ✭✭✭Kippure


    With this 100Mev proton burst on august 4th, I suppose we will see some earth quake activity globally very soon?

    http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=08&day=04&year=2011&view=view


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Kippure wrote: »
    With this 100Mev proton burst on august 4th, I suppose we will see some earth quake activity globally very soon?

    http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=08&day=04&year=2011&view=view

    Personally, I don't believe there is any connection between solar activity and tectonic/volcanic earthquakes beyond coincidence.

    The swarm at El Hierro has eased off significantly to just a couple of quakes an hour since yesterday. Will is bounce back with another new phase of activity or is it winding down for real this time? Only time will tell. ;)


  • Registered Users Posts: 16 PuterMan


    Kippure wrote: »
    With this 100Mev proton burst on august 4th, I suppose we will see some earth quake activity globally very soon?

    http://spaceweather.com/archive.php?month=08&day=04&year=2011&view=view

    As maquiladora said there is no conclusive proof of a connection. Many coincidental occurrences but nothing positive. I am in the middle of a study of this right now going back as far as I can which should be about 10 years.

    So far rthe best I have come up with is that earthquakes cause solar flares :D (there are many where the flare occurred after the quake)


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    Seeing as Macqui has taken the weekend off. :D

    http://bigthink.com/ideas/39621
    LURKING on August 7, 2011, 2:28 PM
    And a different plot of El Hierro.

    A somewhat “cantankerous” plot to put together.

    Using a point near the summit at El Golfo, and looking only at the quakes in an arc from 330 to 350 degrees, plotting the depths vs range from that point.

    Over lain with an average terrain profile and subsurface contour line for that quadrant.

    Old quakes in gray, todays quakes in red.

    http://i56.tinypic.com/iee42r.png


    LURKING on August 7, 2011, 2:32 PM
    Same graph, but rescaled to approximate 1:1 elevation and distance aspect ratio.

    http://i52.tinypic.com/2bwndy.png

    I didn’t realize that the values were close enough to try and pull that off.

    This will give you a better idea of how stable/unstable the slope might be.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 399 ✭✭fizzycyst


    Looks like there's been a few closer to the surface today :eek:


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Here we go again, looks like another phase is starting. There were only a handful of earthquakes over the past two days.

    Then this happens just in the last hour. :pac:

    CHIE_2011-08-07_19-20.jpg


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    LURKING on August 7, 2011, 6:02 PM
    http://i55.tinypic.com/fe2mfo.png

    elhierro.png


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 626 ✭✭✭Not


    eskimocat wrote: »
    The posts of the activity are really interesting. The starting and stopping is intriguing, but I cannot help picture some Mr Bean type character plugging in and out his TV or something... and inadvertenly causing all the activity :D

    large hadron collider thingee ? :D Maybe he's running amok in it...


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    For those interested, the swarm is still ongoing. Total number of recorded earthquakes is 2,000+ with many more unaccounted for.

    Here is the last hour :

    CHIE_2011-08-09_16-17.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 5,778 ✭✭✭up for anything


    From Erik Klemetti of Eruptions Blog at Big Think
    DEFORMATION AT EL HIERRO IN THE CANARY ISLANDS
    Erik Klemetti on August 24, 2011, 2:53 PM

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    Well, we've been wondering when we might see more signs of magma rising underneath El Hierro in the Canary Island and now we seem to have got some. Over the last month, the island/volcano has experienced thousands of earthquakes that have waxed and waned in number, but seem to be increasing over time. A GPS survey of the area effected by the earthquakes has now found deformation - namely inflation - over part of the volcano. This inflation is on the order of ~1 cm over the last 20-25 days according to the Instituto Volcanologico de Canarias. There are also slightly increased carbon dioxide and temperature (above background) at the volcano as well. All of these signs add to up new magma rising in the volcano - so the big question becomes "does this mean an eruption is around the corner?" Well, my answer to that is a resounding "maybe". Sure, these are all signs of magma emplacement, but there is likely as much chance of it all "stalling" in the crust as an eruption occurring. It will be how these factors - earthquakes, deformation, gas emissions, temperature - change over the next weeks to months that will give us a better idea of whether we will see the first documented eruption at El Hierro since 550 B.C. (or 1793 A.D., depends on if you trust the historical reports from the late 18th century).

    {Special thanks to @teideano for this data from the IVC}.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    I knew something would happen as soon as I took my eye off El Hierro!

    Rapid inflation, increased gas emissions and temperature anomalies, none of those had been reported before, and of course the swarm has kept going (on and off), over 4,400 recorded now.

    Chances of an eruption have risen now that these other boxes have been ticked. The big question though is still when: weeks, months, years....


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Remeber this? :pac: Yes, the swarm is still ongoing, on and off.

    I'm still keeping half an eye on it every couple of days. No major changes but the activity continues.

    I have no idea anymore how many thousand earthquakes have happened since this started.

    Here is the last hour:

    CHIE_2011-09-03_17-18.jpg


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  • Registered Users Posts: 411 ✭✭RoisinD


    Jake1 wrote: »


    Interesting. I assume the earthquakes are continuing.


  • Registered Users Posts: 921 ✭✭✭MiNdGaM3


    Jake1 wrote: »

    I looked it up and a few places are saying it's a mis-translation. "trasladar la informacion a la poblacion de EL Hierro" means they're going to pass on the information to the public, not that they're going to re-locate them, which seems to be where the confusion is originating!
    Essentially they had a gathering to get some info on what's happening so they can better inform the citizens on the Island.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    Jake1 wrote: »

    Google Translate Fail!

    This "Millennium Ark" website seems to have just run this article from Google Translate : http://www.avcan.org/?m=Noticias&a=noticia&N=894

    The headline of the article is that the population of El Hierro are going to be kept informed about the earthquakes, not evacuated.

    This is the line put that Google Translate that is causing the confusion :
    Pevolca The Scientific Committee, met this morning at the request of the Ministry of Economy, Finance and Security of the Canary Islands Government, decided to relocate the population of El Hierro directly, the most important conclusions from information gathered by seismic and volcanic National Geographic Institute (IGN) and the Institute of the Canary Islands volcanological (non-tip) on the earthquakes recorded on the island since last July.

    What it should translate to is something more like this :
    Pevolca The Scientific Committee, met this morning at the request of the Ministry of Economy, Finance and Security of the Canary Islands Government, decided to inform the population of El Hierro directly, the most important conclusions from information gathered by seismic and volcanic National Geographic Institute (IGN) and the Institute of the Canary Islands volcanological (non-tip) on the earthquakes recorded on the island since last July.

    Yes, the earthquakes are still going on, and some of them are being felt on the surface now. But as the article says, El Hierro is still on a Green pre-alert level, so there is no risk of anything happening any time soon, and no evacuations! It's just an article about the residents being better informed of the situation.


  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    yeah guys, i just learned that myself. Sorry for the mistake.

    :o


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 423 ✭✭je55ie


    http://www.emsc-csem.org/Earthquake/earthquake.php?id=236815#

    You still following this maquiladora? Any update for us? Thanks ;)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,134 ✭✭✭✭maquiladora


    An estimated 3.4 magnitude quake at El Hierro, by far the biggest since this swarm began.

    CHIE_2011-09-24_21-22.jpg


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