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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Had a mate who did this in Plymouth , The course focuses alot on oceanography.He ended up working on coastal survey ships.

    Fair play to him, he is obviously skilled. Did this Degree influence his job ability?

    I would have you know, I have a Masters Degree in Facebook. I am entitled to the moon on a stick as a result.

    http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/masters-degree-in-facebook-offered-607722#comment

    :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Spunge wrote: »
    lol are they sitting there discussing a diagram of a surfboard ?

    Didn't notice that till now:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I'll take the talk of Arts degrees and extend it to most academic research.

    Yes, the UCD Horizons' underwater basket weaving course does take the piss but the entire third level system is backwards and inefficient.

    A lot of lecturers are incapable of teaching and even the good ones pawn as much of it off on postgrads as possible so they can get on with their research.

    Research is a mess too; the system promotes personal glory and hinders cooperation. The amount of money sunk into cancer research is a prime example of money wasted on duplication of effort and people obssessed with their own research grants.

    A friend of mine had to spend months making her own software to do something that can already be done with existing software because an academic doesn't do sharing.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,474 ✭✭✭Crazy Horse 6


    Anyone who works in I.T. I mean feck off how is sitting at a computer all day working.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,803 ✭✭✭El Siglo


    Mike 1972 wrote: »
    Beg to differ.

    Just because the overwhelming majority of people employed to do a certain job happen to be totally shyte doesnt diminish the importance of the actual job itself.

    In some ways I agree with you, it wouldn't be a completely useless job if it wasn't done by 'town planners' and instead done by real scientists and engineers who actually have a clue and not some dogmatic adherence to a badly written piece of legislation about how resources (land) should be developed (i.e. conserved/protected/built upon etc...).


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,834 ✭✭✭Sonnenblumen


    Naikon wrote: »
    The Ivory Towers, they have spoken. The reason people don't know about some of these obscure research areas, is because they serve little use to most members of society. It's not through chance that the really important fundamentally earth shattering research generally comes from Industry, not Academia. This man has every right to indulge in English Lit. fair play. I don't think people should aquire Tenure because of it, though.

    A bit of research there now would help you lose some of those chips.

    BTW no point entering the research room, unless you're prepared to leave prejudice outside before entering.

    Strange world when niche specialists are responsible for the ignorance of the unaware.

    I suppose you would also claim that the 'unemployed', "serve little use to most members of society"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,559 ✭✭✭blaze1


    7Sins wrote: »

    Plasterers, mix some stuff, smear it on a wall and charge a couple of thousand for something a monkey could do.

    All the cast of Fair City, nuff said.


    Have you ever tried plastering??? Its a pig of a job?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 150 ✭✭catch me if you can


    I have a few.

    was in kerry this weekend and saw some hippies were advertising a laughter yoga coach class , and dimwits were actually signing up for it.

    Some other careers that i find a joke and way ott are,

    Recruitment agencies
    HR
    Health and Safety


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,456 ✭✭✭✭Mr Benevolent


    Health & Safety officer.
    HR.
    Customer services (believe me I know).
    Any sort of psychotherapy that involves going back into the client's childhood.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 785 ✭✭✭ILikeBananas


    Confab wrote: »
    Any sort of psychotherapy that involves going back into the client's childhood.

    Stuff that happens to you when you're a child deeply affects you when you're an adult. Have you not listened to all of those abuse victims on the radio the last week?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,746 ✭✭✭Floppybits


    HR and their cousins Morketing.

    Full of wasters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 418 ✭✭Chris Hansen




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,922 ✭✭✭hooradiation


    Anyone who works in I.T. I mean feck off how is sitting at a computer all day working.

    Troll harder.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 34,809 ✭✭✭✭smash


    House wife...

    I'll get my coat!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,248 ✭✭✭Rowley Birkin QC


    Surprised marketing hasn't been mentioned yet.

    It's basically the peddling of shiny, sweet smelling bull****.

    Apple have it down to a fine art; "Don't have an iPhone? Well then, you can never contact anyone ever again."


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,519 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    OSI wrote: »
    My contribution. Suicide Bomber.

    Not so much a career, I'd consider it day labour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,177 ✭✭✭Wompa1


    Research Psychologist - A never ending cycle of discrediting each others work without showing any valid results. Before the study begins they know what they want to prove and will simply gear the questions in such a way that they get the answers they want and if they don't, they simply remove that person from their sample! Unethical bull plop!

    Criminal Psychology is cool, the rest if flakey as sh!t


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Interior designers. Anyone who describes a room as a space should be punched in the face hard. More than once just to get the point across. Extra kicks in the crotch for mentioning Feng Shui. If they describe your back garden/yard as your exterior space, break out the placcy sheeting, bleach and carving knives. Start at their feet and work up. Fashion "writers" discussing how "black is the new green" or that "legs are in this season". Silly unimportant pseuds describing the output of silly self important pseuds for the benefit of morons. No really. Fcuk off. Gossip columnists. Enough said really. Being thrown in a weighted sack and chucked off a pier is too good for them.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,291 ✭✭✭wild_cat


    Confab wrote: »
    .
    Customer services (believe me I know).


    I'll agree with you on this. Only there as a buffer. No real power to do anything that can actually help the customer no matter how much you want to.


    I'd love to work in a low level admin job. Typing up stuff, Printing out stuff, putting printed stuff into piles (this is a gross generalisation btw. but that's the job I'd like to do)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭boblong


    OSI wrote: »
    A BA in Computer Science is for those that lack the intelligence to do a proper Computer Science degree.

    Cambridge award a BA.

    I had absolutely no idea that people had misconceptions and confusions about BA and BSc degrees and their differences (read: lack of differences). The bottom line is they often have very little to do with course content, and instead are just what the university traditionally awards.


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 25,189 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    boblong wrote: »
    Cambridge award a BA.

    I had absolutely no idea that people had misconceptions and confusions about BA and BSc degrees and their differences (read: lack of differences). The bottom line is they often have very little to do with course content, and instead are just what the university traditionally awards.

    Generally true as alot of universities would not have had the option on the books when the degree was introduced. Nowadays it has come to mean the difference between focused and non focused in relation to science subjects.

    A BSc hons graduate would be expected to be firmly focused on one area of his course in the final year of his degree with a good basis in other areas whereas a BA would be considered more unbiased and have a generally even push on all aspects of the course.

    There was a push a few years ago to get BSc Hons students awarded a MSc instead after there 4th year if they reached over a 2.1 to highlight the difference and to highlight the fact that the final year was equivalent to a 1 year MSc but it was considered to much hassle.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 255 ✭✭boblong


    OSI wrote: »
    Having gone to a Uni that offered both a BSc and BA in Computer Science, I can say that there was a vast difference. The BA skipped a large portion of the fundamental mathematics at the heart of computer science.

    Then that is a problem with that specific university and the way it decided to offer courses, not the B.A itself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,754 ✭✭✭Odysseus


    Stuff that happens to you when you're a child deeply affects you when you're an adult. Have you not listened to all of those abuse victims on the radio the last week?

    Psychotherapy get that a lot, I wouldn't bother with people like that poster. My work day is full of appointments, I get well paid for it, and even worse I have a BA and a MA in it.

    Though to be fair, I do believe that all psychotherapists should be trained to at least Masters level, though that is a OT.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Interior designers. Anyone who describes a room as a space should be punched in the face hard. More than once just to get the point across. Extra kicks in the crotch for mentioning Feng Shui. If they describe your back garden/yard as your exterior space, break out the placcy sheeting, bleach and carving knives. Start at their feet and work up. Fashion "writers" discussing how "black is the new green" or that "legs are in this season". Silly unimportant pseuds describing the output of silly self important pseuds for the benefit of morons. No really. Fcuk off. Gossip columnists. Enough said really. Being thrown in a weighted sack and chucked off a pier is too good for them.

    These are brilliant. I agree with this:)

    Add "Recruitment Consultant" to the list. These people are probably not worth a full time salary!!! I always avoid these agencies. Nothing but absolute pen pushers imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,048 ✭✭✭Da Shins Kelly


    Wibbs wrote: »
    Interior designers. Anyone who describes a room as a space should be punched in the face hard. More than once just to get the point across. Extra kicks in the crotch for mentioning Feng Shui. If they describe your back garden/yard as your exterior space, break out the placcy sheeting, bleach and carving knives. Start at their feet and work up. Fashion "writers" discussing how "black is the new green" or that "legs are in this season". Silly unimportant pseuds describing the output of silly self important pseuds for the benefit of morons. No really. Fcuk off. Gossip columnists. Enough said really. Being thrown in a weighted sack and chucked off a pier is too good for them.

    Whatever about interior designers, I definitely agree with the others. Most of the time I feel like fashion writers just set out to make the great unwashed feel bad about themselves. Gossip columnists just fuel people's obsession with wealth and celebrity, which is pretty unhealthy in my opinion.


  • Registered Users Posts: 505 ✭✭✭alejandro1977


    Naikon wrote: »
    "Investment Banker" == "Professional Gambler"

    you obviously don't know what Investment bankers do.

    Maybe you're thinking of "Trader"?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,176 ✭✭✭Jess16


    Journalists -the ones who make a living from making things up


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 11,001 ✭✭✭✭opinion guy


    Sky news 'reporter', 'newsreader' , 'anchor'

    More like 'Sky news excited describer of what we can plainly see on the video in front of us with no background research or information whatsoever with regular speculating about al quaeda regardless of topic of story'

    aka....'Rupert Murdoch lackey'


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Mime. Seriously...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    Anyone who works in I.T. I mean feck off how is sitting at a computer all day working.

    It's not just sitting at a desk! It also involves pushing a lot of buttons :mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    Any job I can't do
    Any job I don't understand
    Any job that pays more than my job
    Any job that might be even remotely enjoyable


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    srsly78 wrote: »
    It's not just sitting at a desk! It also involves pushing a lot of buttons :mad:

    And dealing with idiots, I can attest to that. I remember being asked why a printer was not functional. Hint - It involved a lack of electrons and brain power.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 27,334 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    CramCycle wrote: »
    owadays it has come to mean the difference between focused and non focused in relation to science subjects.

    A BSc hons graduate would be expected to be firmly focused on one area of his course in the final year of his degree with a good basis in other areas whereas a BA would be considered more unbiased and have a generally even push on all aspects of the course.
    OSI wrote: »
    Having gone to a Uni that offered both a BSc and BA in Computer Science, I can say that there was a vast difference. The BA skipped a large portion of the fundamental mathematics at the heart of computer science.

    These two things are just plain not true. While some universities may have a BA and a BSc program they would be in the extreme minority. Generally speaking the award of a BA or a BSc has to do with traditions of the university and nothing more (I have a BA in Theoretical Physics, which is about as un-artsy as you can get).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,584 ✭✭✭PCPhoto


    surprised no-one has actually said "photographer"

    'cos pretty much any muppet with a camera thinks they are a professional photographer - all they have to do is wave the camera and press the button.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,157 ✭✭✭srsly78


    I also got BA TP. But I just tell everyone I have an arts degree in natural philosophy :D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,736 ✭✭✭OctavarIan


    PCPhoto wrote: »
    surprised no-one has actually said "photographer"

    'cos pretty much any muppet with a camera thinks they are a professional photographer - all they have to do is wave the camera and press the button.

    Same with John Doe downloading Photoshop and thinking he's a graphic designer.


  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Naikon wrote: »
    Add "Recruitment Consultant" to the list. These people are probably not worth a full time salary!!! I always avoid these agencies. Nothing but absolute pen pushers imo.

    I bought an overly expensive bottle of wine for my recruitment girl back in Ireland... I still remember her name and would send her a Christmas card ever year if I could.
    I applied direct to the company.. Nothing. She goes out of her way and manages to slip me in for an interview even though I was six years younger than the next oldest employee. Absolute legend.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Whatever about interior designers, I definitely agree with the others.
    Yea to be fair D I was thinking of a certain type of interior "designer". I mean some of the greatest artists and architects in history designed interiors. Frank Lloyd Wright and Antoni Gaudi just to name two in the 20th century.

    I'm thinking more of a certain type of "ladies who lunch", that go in for this BS in between climbing out of daddies wallet and climbing into hubbies wallet while pretending to have a "career" in the interim. Other "careers" they claim are such things as writing childrens books when the only writing they've attempted is a scribbled note to the "help" re the paint colour of their new extension. If they have any qualifications beyond a two week part time course in interior design, then it's usually an art history degree, which they barely scraped a result in.
    Naikon wrote:
    Add "Recruitment Consultant" to the list. These people are probably not worth a full time salary!!! I always avoid these agencies. Nothing but absolute pen pushers imo.
    Oh god yes.

    I'd add paparazzi to the list. They often liken themselves to photojournalists. Sorry no you utter pushy ponce and bottomfeeder. Don McCullin is a photojournalist. Robert Capa was a photojournalist. The guys and gals of the Magnum agency were photojournalists. The only magnum those other fcukwits will ever get close to is gurgling inside the otherwise empty belly of some off her plastic tits anorexic starlet.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    Yoga Instructors?

    I still don't get it. Go out for a run. You don't need to pay someone else to tell you the apparent complexities of moving your joints or whatever. Google would probably suffice imo.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    I bought an overly expensive bottle of wine for my recruitment girl back in Ireland... I still remember her name and would send her a Christmas card ever year if I could.
    I applied direct to the company.. Nothing. She goes out of her way and manages to slip me in for an interview even though I was six years younger than the next oldest employee. Absolute legend.

    Fair enough, but it does not lead well to the whole "fair treatment" card, now does it? Equal Opportunities Employer my arse. You can't win.


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  • Posts: 17,378 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Naikon wrote: »
    Fair enough, but it does not lead well to the whole "fair treatment" card, now does it? Equal Opportunities Employer my arse. You can't win.
    It's very simple.. The HR departments in a 60k+ employees company delegate the task of hiring low level jobs to outside companies. I'm sure they deal with the important jobs but for my level, it's easier to give it to the recruitment companies.. Then it's up to the various recruiters to spout as much shlte to the HR girl to get their candidate an interview. That's what happened for me.

    Saying that, I travelled for a couple of months with a lad from London who said his job in recruitment was soul destroying.. I can't remember all the details of why he hated the industry but it made sense.

    I only defend it because I benefited from it.


  • Registered Users Posts: 170 ✭✭ItsNoAlias


    Anyone who works on Xposé


  • Registered Users Posts: 393 ✭✭bonerjams03


    El Siglo wrote: »

    Town planning... Absolutely pointless job.

    Are you serious?

    Town planners is what's needed more here. Well, responsible ones. Stop Urban sprawl among other things; it isn't your right to build some garish bungalow on a regional road or for people with enough money to develop on flood plains. It is a job that is all to disregarded for this country's own good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,437 ✭✭✭weemcd


    *Working in a customer service or sales job in a call centre. Most of the time you are listening to people with poor manners and even less patience complain, or calling someone who has no desire to speak to you, with no interest in what you are going to say. Repeat this possibly 20-300 times a day depending on the role. Your colleagues are on the same boat, so you complain about the work amongst yourselves while on breaks. Then you go back in and your manager complains about your targets. Every so often you get some clown who came in "from head office" from somewhere like Banbury in England, who over-simplifies the concept of your job, then gives you moronic, obvious, empty advice on how to improve on the targets the company set. This will involve the use of nonsense sets of flow diagrams and some kind of abbreviated buzz word ie. U.N.I.T.Y, where each letter stands for a word. Everything is geared to grind your will down, and get more blood out of the stone. Every day bar the occasional enjoyable one is a soul vacum, almost entirley pointless from one day to the next, until you have worked identical days with little variation for months, or perhaps even years.

    That is my definition of a bullshít job.

    *=This may not be the case absolutely everywhere, and you can have a laugh at times. No offence intended to anyone who works in these positions.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 526 ✭✭✭7Sins


    Naikon wrote: »
    The game is well defined. List one nonsense career per post and justify the choice with a couple of sentances or so. I will start:

    Lifecoaching: What is this? How can you expect to pay the bills by "directing" people about their mostly non definable arbitrary and or subjective "goals/choices" in life? Sure, you can try to prepare for the future and all that, but I don't think it's economically justified to start an actual career from advice normally shared between your mates down at the local pisshouse.

    Next poster.


    I think Carers do a very good job :mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,783 ✭✭✭maglite


    Most of the responses seem to be grounded in ignorance, more so than usual.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    maglite wrote: »
    Most of the responses seem to be grounded in ignorance, more so than usual.

    Any specific examples?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,788 ✭✭✭✭krudler


    weemcd wrote: »
    *Working in a customer service or sales job in a call centre. Most of the time you are listening to people with poor manners and even less patience complain, or calling someone who has no desire to speak to you, with no interest in what you are going to say. Repeat this possibly 20-300 times a day depending on the role. Your colleagues are on the same boat, so you complain about the work amongst yourselves while on breaks. Then you go back in and your manager complains about your targets. Every so often you get some clown who came in "from head office" from somewhere like Banbury in England, who over-simplifies the concept of your job, then gives you moronic, obvious, empty advice on how to improve on the targets the company set. This will involve the use of nonsense sets of flow diagrams and some kind of abbreviated buzz word ie. U.N.I.T.Y, where each letter stands for a word. Everything is geared to grind your will down, and get more blood out of the stone. Every day bar the occasional enjoyable one is a soul vacum, almost entirley pointless from one day to the next, until you have worked identical days with little variation for months, or perhaps even years.

    That is my definition of a bullshít job.

    *=This may not be the case absolutely everywhere, and you can have a laugh at times. No offence intended to anyone who works in these positions.


    nailed exactly what its like.

    when the inevitable 28 Days Later outbreak happens, it wont be rage infected monkeys, it'll be rage infected call centre workers


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,564 ✭✭✭Naikon


    7Sins wrote: »
    I think Carers do a very good job :mad:

    I agree with you. I would not class Lifecoaches as Medical Carers though.


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