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Penny Tration wrote: »Their vape swag range is class too
Yep. I'm partial to a little Biker Snout every now and again.0 -
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RainMakerToo wrote: »What's with the discounts/sales everywhere at the moment?
Not that I'm complaining, just curious why there's so many half price liquids and reduced price hardware out there at the moment!
This explains why :mad:If the TPD is enforced then it will kill the current market and change vaping as we know it. The on-going evolution of vape products will be reduced to a hands off cigarette like experience. Big tobacco must be rubbing their collective mits with glee.
V-Day 20th May 2016
The maximum size of refill containers of nicotine containing liquid is 10ml.
Say goodbye to “normal” size containers and buying in larger sizes to reduce cost. Apparently this is to reduce the chance of accidental poisoning although you can still buy a 2 litre bottle of lemon bleach from your supermarket.
Maximum size of cartridges or tanks do no exceed 2ml.
This means the end of large tanks that many people now use. It is hard to see any justification to support this restriction.
Maximum nicotine strength of e-liquid is 20mg
No more 24mg strength – the high strength that a lot of people start off with to transition from tobacco. Apparently again due to poisoning concerns which have been proven to be totally false.
Electronic cigarettes must provide a consistent dose of nicotine.
How this is interpreted could make or break e-cigs. No current device can provide a consistant dose as you can draw for as little or as long or as hard as you want. Not even tobacco cigarettes have to comply to this unworkable requirement.
E-cigs and refill containers must have a mechanism to ensure leak free refilling.
Again how this is interpreted will determine how damaging it will be. No current system can ensure leak free refilling as this is largely down to the user. Although why this should be an issue is unknown, any e-cig user is used to a little bit of leaking and learns how to deal with it.
If a “competent authority” believes any product may present a health risk they may be prohibited.
If 3 member states prohibit a product this can then be extended to all EU member states, in other words a blanket wide EU ban.
On top of the restrictions on products there is plenty of unnecessary red tape and requirements for manufacturers and distributors to comply with.
Anyone manufacturing or selling e-cigs must notify and submit information to their member state for each and every product, or product variation that they wish to sell. This includes ingredients lists, detailed emissions data, toxicological data, information on nicotine doses and absorption data, opening and refilling mechanisms and production processes for every single product variation that they wish to sell. Every year data on sales volumes, product types, consumer preferences and surveys must be submitted to member states. This will only increase cost which will ultimately have to be passed on to the consumer making e-cigs less attractive.0 -
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I was curious if the TPD was partially responsible, but the fact it's still nearly 9 months away, I wasn't so sure. I've read the suggested regulations before as well and mostly they seem like nonsense to be honest!
e.g. max cartridge sizes, etc - it like going in to your local pub and they tell you - we will sell you a pint bottle, but you'll have to drink it from a 330ml glass... ridiculous stuff, you'd have to question who came up with these regulations. We should get on to Ming 0 -
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