'China says aircraft carrier to be used for research and training'

Tabnabs

The "research and training" continues apace.

Photos posted to the Internet in China last week seem to confirm that the Chinese Navy has installed arrestor gear and other vital equipment on its refurbished Soviet-made aircraft carrier, the ex-Varyag. If genuine, the installations could represent a big step forward for the first-ever seaborne, fixed-wing aviation capability for the People's Liberation Army Navy.

Full article here http://the-diplomat.com/flashpoints-blog/2012/03/19/china-carrier-preps-for-flight-ops/

and the photos here
http://alert5.com/2012/03/16/photo-arresting-gear-installed-on-varyag/

InReality

johngalway wrote: »

This from CNN:

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/08/10/china.aircraft.carrier/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

One question, what is that in the water on the outside of the carrier? It's a boom or net of some kind?

cool video thanks !
you can really see the chinese are putting serious money into their miltary , new bases , with old versions of planes at the entrance.
fascinating stuff/

Jaafa

It's seems with things slowing down in the middle east, south east Asia an all other area's of Chinese interest will be the hot spots in the decades to come. Both the the US and of course the Chinese are seriously upping their military and economic investments in these areas of late.

Cardinal Richelieu

Jaafa wrote: »

It's seems with things slowing down in the middle east, south east Asia an all other area's of Chinese interest will be the hot spots in the decades to come. Both the the US and of course the Chinese are seriously upping their military and economic investments in these areas of late.

The growing gender imbalance in China seems to be a ticking time bomb that experts point out might cause trouble in the future. Its estimated that in 2025-30 China will have 20% more men than women. China has brought in laws to prevent female fetus abortions to try to improve the gender imbalance but when you have so many young unattached males trouble soon follows.

Buffman

Bumping an old thread I know, but interesting video of a J-15 (SU-33) operating on the Liaoning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9CDW4tlgOU

chughes

I wonder will this plane become a familiar sight over the midland skies when the Chinese build their military base in Athlone, cunningly disguised as a business park.

goldie fish

chughes wrote: »

I wonder will this plane become a familiar sight over the midland skies when the Chinese build their military base in Athlone, cunningly disguised as a business park.

Have they given up on abbeyshrule then?

Buffman

Apparently the boss of Shenyang Aircraft Corporation and head of the J15 project died while on board watching the trials.

From here.

It has emerged that the scientist who has pioneered China's aircraft carrier and jet aircraft technology died of a heart attack at the weekend as he watched the country's first successful landing at sea.
Luo Yuan, who was 51, was chairman and president of the Shenyang Aircraft Company and in charge of China's fighter-jet programme. He was on board China's first aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, to watch a series of successful test landings when he suffered the heart attack.
News of his death was the headline story on state television on Monday, a demonstration both of the importance of the aircraft carrier programme and the significance of his loss.
The successful landing was revealed on Sunday morning with the release of footage by state media.
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savagecabbages

Interesting to see modern full size jets using a ski ramp as opposed to catapults.

I read the Chinese aircraft (and the Russian) can take off with full loads but there's very little evidence of either doing so with anything more than a few small air to air missiles attached...

Buffman

savagecabbages wrote: »

I read the Chinese aircraft (and the Russian) can take off with full loads but there's very little evidence of either doing so with anything more than a few small air to air missiles attached...

Yes, but with the Russians the SU-33 is primarily an air defence fighter so in reality it doesn't need much more than air to air though. Also, the takeoff role normally begins a good distance up the flight deck, but I'd say if they needed to they would just use the full length.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Dmhzu0mMg

The Russians carried the SU-25UTG for ground attack missions, though it remains to be seen if the Chinese are going to use the J15 for multiple roles.

knucklehead6

Buffman wrote: »

Yes, but with the Russians the SU-33 is primarily an air defence fighter so in reality it doesn't need much more than air to air though. Also, the takeoff role normally begins a good distance up the flight deck, but I'd say if they needed to they would just use the full length.



The Russians carried the SU-25UTG for ground attack missions, though it remains to be seen if the Chinese are going to use the J15 for multiple roles.

Does that not mean a lot of shifting and shuffling around the flight deck though??

Buffman

knucklehead6 wrote: »

Does that not mean a lot of shifting and shuffling around the flight deck though??

Ye, it would be messy alright with a large air wing, like for example on a US carrier, which is where the catapults come in handy. But using the Russian Kuznetsov as an example, it's air wing is about 18 SU-33/SU-25 total, so it shouldn't be that difficult to launch using full length if they parked them right.
Obviously you couldn't land at the same time doing this, which again is where the US carriers have an advantage.