Photo Thread.

Itssoeasy

The work on the bridge is still going and the ticket barriers are in place but not operational yet.

Victor

In addition to the new entrance by CIÉ/IÉ, it seems the council are proposing alterations to the Lower Glanmire Road.

Rud

foggy_lad wrote: »

Not sure if it will be opened but work still going on there to the station building which was in a poor state but looking a lot better now. The new ticket barriers at Newbridge and Kildare are in use afaik.

The ticket barriers are not in use yet in Newbridge

The_Wanderer

Evening folks,

Just a quick hop to Thurles this afternoon.
- 22031 1325 Heuston - Limerick.
- 22037 1420 Limerick - Heuston.
- 232 1400 Heuston - Cork.
- 22052 1820 Limerick - Heuston.
http://smu.gs/17gUkHt

The Wanderer.

The_Wanderer

Good evening all,

The sunny (Exam Time) weather was too much to resist this evening. So here is a selection of photos from 60 minutes split between Clonkeen, outside Portlaoise and Portarlington.
http://smu.gs/17pDrdM

The Wanderer.

cml387

Did someone post a link to the O'Dea collection at the NLI

If not, here they are now.

dublinman1990

I've found this on Twitter today while I was listening to the FM104 Phoneshow on Monday night.

Jeremy Dixon at Inchicore Depot.

The carriage does appear to be in great condition though on the inside.

Rocky Bay

DD9090 wrote: »

Nicked from Facebook.

Kilbarrack/Howth Junction 1981

Where is that train headed?

steamengine

Howth

Rocky Bay

steamengine wrote: »

Howth

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

LEIN

Rocky Bay wrote: »

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

Could be ballast for maintenance or upgrades.

flyingsnail

Rocky Bay wrote: »

A goods train to Howth? Where would it have been unloaded in Howth?

They look like these wagons used for ballast

Captain Chaos

More of Howth Junction.

First photo is from around the mid 1970s I think.


This is from 1974

Grandeeod

DD9090 wrote: »

Could be ballast for maintenance or upgrades.

Its obviously ballast judging by the photo.

Eiretrains

DD9090 wrote: »

Nicked from Facebook.

Kilbarrack/Howth Junction 1981

That photo is by Barry Pickup, it is indeed a PWD ballast train heading onto the Howth branch, operating in conjunction with the track upgrading for the DART.

The talk of a goods train to Howth is interesting. In fact until the late 1960s, both Sutton and Howth were served sporadically by a trip goods working, sometimes hauled by an E Class locomotive.
Paint was dispatched from the paint works housed in the former GNR power station, while the Parsons Siding in Howth received some wagons (they also manufactured freight stock such as those ballast hoppers).

Captain Chaos

Fairview depot looking towards Connolly station in the pre DART days. Home then to C201 class and 6100 pushpull sets.

Victor

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

Captain Chaos

Victor wrote: »

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

Same here. That building in the picture is still part of it today, they added the new extension to the north end of it where the locos are with a higher roof profile for the lifting jacks.

Losty Dublin

Victor wrote: »

Ah, I thought Fairview was built specifically for the DART.

The GNR built their railcar depot there in 1951 on reclaimed landfill. CIE made it the suburban depot in the late 60's and it became the logical depot for the DART and was expanded and refitted in 1981.

Captain Chaos

Just looking at the old pics of Howth Junction and comparing it to now, when the points where replaced did they re-align the branch tracks. Today the branch has a long sweep onto the main line compared to the curve around the old signal box that no longer exists.

steamengine

Was the signal cabin just to the right of the house and in front of the buffers ? There seems to be enough space for it there !

Captain Chaos

Yeah, the signal cabin would be to the right of the buffers and just behind it.

Don't know why they built that runoff siding as part of DASH 1. The DARTs have APT and CAWS fitted. APT restricts the speed a DART can even approach a red signal and automatically applies the brake if it SPADs. It would still be well clear of the mainline in a worse case event even without the runoff. It's a real belt and braces setup.

flyingsnail

Captain Chaos wrote: »

Yeah, the signal cabin would be to the right of the buffers and just behind it.

Don't know why they built that runoff siding as part of DASH 1. The DARTs have APT and CAWS fitted. APT restricts the speed a DART can even approach a red signal and automatically applies the brake if it SPADs. It would still be well clear of the mainline in a worse case event even without the runoff. It's a real belt and braces setup.

The run off means that you can simultaneously signal a train into that platform while signalling a through train on the up main line. Without it you may not have enough safety overlap on the signal to prevent a train fouling the main line. Regardless of APT on the DART not every train that approaches that signal would have ATP fitted.

Captain Chaos

What I mean is, the runoff is protecting the main line from the branch. Only DARTs all of which have APT use the branch making that runoff feature redundant. APT will restricts the DART to 10-15mph within about 200 metres or more of a red signal so it will crawl right up it. Say the driver fails to pay attention and tries to then move off when checking the train under a red signal the APT will have the train stopped before it's even over the points for the runoff never mind near fouling the main line. All that is for coming off platform 1.

flyingsnail

Captain Chaos wrote: »

What I mean is, the runoff is protecting the main line from the branch. Only DARTs all of which have APT use the branch making that runoff feature redundant. APT will restricts the DART to 10-15mph within about 200 metres or more of a red signal so it will crawl right up it. Say the driver fails to pay attention and tries to then move off when checking the train under a red signal the APT will have the train stopped before it's even over the points for the runoff never mind near fouling the main line. All that is for coming off platform 1.

While DARTs are the only scheduled service train over the branch they are not the only trains to operate over the branch. Per way and specials also operate over the branch and they would have no APT.

Victor

Does the Howth layout as built mean that both trains can make an approach at service speed instead of a crawl? ATP may be added to other trains.

Losty Dublin wrote: »

The GNR built their railcar depot there in 1951 on reclaimed landfill. CIE made it the suburban depot in the late 60's and it became the logical depot for the DART and was expanded and refitted in 1981.

Someone better tell Mr. Johnson.

flyingsnail

Victor wrote: »

Does the Howth layout as built mean that both trains can make an approach at service speed instead of a crawl?

No, one of the trains is still going to be approaching a red signal.

The_Wanderer

flyingsnail wrote: »

No, one of the trains is still going to be approaching a red signal.

Before the run off siding was provided at Howth Jct. any train coming off the Howth Branch had to have a proceed aspect at the signal on the Up Howth Branch Platform.

If the signal was at red (protecting a movement on the Up Belfast) then the signal before it at Bayside Station was also held at Red. This was due to lack of a suitable overlap at Howth Jct.

CaptainSkidmark

Way too much talking and not enough photos here! should be a separate thread like the aviation forum

Captain Chaos

CaptainSkidmark wrote: »

Way too much talking and not enough photos here! should be a separate thread like the aviation forum

It's supposed to be photos only but we go very side tracked. Really needed a new thread for it.