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What makes food posh?

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  • 29-07-2011 5:18pm
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    Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭


    Just out of interest, if you were to throw a posh dinner party what would you cook?

    A friend of mine (very fun, but a tries to keep up with the Jones' kind of person) asked me to cook something posh the other day to "prove that I can cook".

    When I think "posh" I think smoked salmon, alcohol laden food or general "adult" food.

    I have Paul Flynn's The Tannery Cookbook so handed her that to pick something and she was pissed there were no pictures...
    I asked her what posh food was and she said stuff with posh ingredients like spring onions... :D

    So posh not fancy food... People can be so strange when it comes to food choices

    So if you were throwing a posh dinner party for say your 12 year old daughter what kind of dishes would you cook?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 22,778 ✭✭✭✭The Hill Billy


    smiles302 wrote: »
    I asked her what posh food was and she said stuff with posh ingredients like spring onions...
    PMSL! Make your pal beans on toast & garnish it with parsley.

    Seriously though, classic dishes such as beef wellington or duck a l'orange may possibly be considered 'posh'. But presentation of food & table setting can also give the appearance of 'poshness'.

    Best of luck with this one... :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,774 ✭✭✭Minder


    This gave me a bit of a laugh - lobster thermidor is common but crab is posh? Also her definition of posh is anything that is hard to cook - oxtail and sweetbreads? Whats hard about cooking oxtail? Sweetbreads may be a little fiddly but there apparent rarity makes them posh? Also offal cooked on its own is common but offal included in a plate of other cuts is posh? How does that work?
    How posh is your nosh?Etiquette expert Mary Killen has the lowdown
    How could some foods be 'common' and others 'posh'? Just as with clothing, houses and cars, anything that smacks of trying too hard will compromise status. These are symptoms of insecurity or of trying to cover something up. In chicken nuggets, for example, we are spared the reality of the chicken's carcass. This is dishonest and therefore common.

    As is:

    Anything on an oval plate

    Anything where the cook seems to have tried too hard or with too many ingredients or stacking

    Any dish made easy to 'feed' from rather than eat from, ie without cutlery while watching television

    Anything not in season

    Anything microwaved

    Quartered tomatoes, particularly serrated and particularly not in salad

    Onion rings

    All potatoes in non-recognisable shapes such as croquette, oven chips and above all Smash

    Minted lamb

    The word 'cereal'. It should be 'cornflakes' whether they are or not

    Farmed fish (particularly salmon)

    All fish not in recognisable fish shapes (however, posh children eat fish fingers every day)

    Trout with almonds

    Lemon wedges (the word) not the actual lemon quarter

    Crisps

    Sprigs of parsley as a garnish (either use a lot of flat-leafed parsley in the dish itself or none at all). Ditto paper hats on rack of lamb or radishes in the shape of flowers

    Salad cream

    The word 'meal'

    Cheesecake and other mucked-about food such as apple strudel

    Home-made cappuccino with non-dairy aerosol 'cream'

    Sweetcorn off the cob

    White pepper unless with cockles

    Philadelphia with breadsticks

    Meat stuffed and tied up with string

    Thick marmalade, particularly if not home-made

    Lobster thermidor

    Fresh meat bought for curry (leftover meat should always be used)

    The word 'nibbles'

    Posh: U food

    Very grand food is not only food that is difficult to come by (home-grown vegetables or fruit and hand-bagged game ) but also anything difficult to cook and that would make a non-U person shudder, eg sweetbreads or oxtail, such as:

    All fruits and vegetables in season, ideally home-grown

    Cold pea soup/nettle soup/gazpacho

    Game in season, particularly grouse at beginning of season

    Partridge is the top game bird/ptarmigan/ortolan

    Your own free-range chickens

    Venison

    Sweetbreads

    Pig's trotters

    Brains

    Oxtail

    Hare (German recipe)

    Properly mature mutton

    Fry-ups (because honest)

    Gulls' eggs with celery salt

    Oysters

    Any fish with head on which has been gutted by person cooking it

    Wild salmon (telltale colour is grey rather than farmed-salmon pink)

    Whitebait

    Potted shrimps

    Crab

    Lobster with fresh mayonnaise

    Sea bass

    Halibut

    Turnips, swedes, parsnips

    Sweetcorn on the cob

    Beetroot

    Riced potato

    Baked pears

    Home-made custard

    Baked bananas

    Eton Mess (meringue, double cream, raspberries or strawberries)

    Bread-and-butter pudding

    Rice pudding

    Junket

    Black chocolate

    Local cheddar

    Oatcakes

    Sage-and-anchovy canapés

    Tinned food. Most tinned food is common but some exceptions include: rice pudding, pineapple chunks, corned-beef hash

    Home-made mayonnaise

    Mustard made from Colman's powder, never ready-mixed


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,844 ✭✭✭Honey-ec


    Oh. My. God. I actually had to stop reading that about halfway down. The word "meal" is common???

    Mary Killen, whoever you are, you may be an etiquette "expert", but you are severely lacking in the most basic understanding of manners.

    ETA: Ortolan. Vomit. I guarantee you she has never, ever eaten one.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 21,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Anything involving Foie gras. Nom nom nom.

    they/them/theirs


    And so on, and so on …. - Slavoj Žižek




  • Registered Users Posts: 166 ✭✭Adhamh


    The price.


    No, but seriously, the ability to carefully interpret traditional methods so that the meal on your plate is almost a cultural artifact of 1930's Naples.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,367 ✭✭✭✭watna


    In what way are spring onions posh? Is it because she used the words spring onions and not scallions? Bizarre!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Little Alex


    Tying stuff, such as asparagus, in bundles for presentation is posh, as is stacking thick-cut chips in a scaffold form. The "bundle" of asparagus or carrot batons is a Come Dine With Me regular and never quite works out for the home chef. :pac: And of course the sprig of mint on dessert... which I used myself before, :D but only because I had some left over from something else.

    Perhaps Lobster Thermidor is considered somewhat vulgar by this Mary Killen?

    For me "proper posh" is a cheeseboard instead of sweet dessert.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,658 ✭✭✭✭The Sweeper


    No no - not just stacking thick cut chips in a scaffold... Stacking thick cut chips made of polenta in a scaffold. That's posh.


  • Registered Users Posts: 463 ✭✭smiles302


    Corn on the cob is posh?? :D

    That list is brilliant! Hilarious as I don't think she'd eat anything on the posh list.. as she won't eat fish.

    Might end up doing chicken, chips and ketchip (Poulet et des frites avec sauce rouge... totally sounds posh...) Put it in a salad bowl and voila


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,389 ✭✭✭FTGFOP


    Whatever one's butler brings one.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Little Alex


    No no - not just stacking thick cut chips in a scaffold... Stacking thick cut chips made of polenta in a scaffold. That's posh.

    Oh yeah, I forgot about them. I had a side of them only recently in The Rustic Stone. They weren't bad considering that I'm not a polenta fan.
    FTGFOP wrote: »
    Whatever one's butler brings one.

    Yes, quite. Anyone for Pimm's? :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,512 ✭✭✭Oh_Noes


    Cut your sandwiches in triangles instead of rectangles. Your friend will think you're Lady Muck.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,302 ✭✭✭Little Alex


    Oh_Noes wrote: »
    Cut your sandwiches in triangles instead of rectangles. Your friend will think you're Lady Muck.

    Cucumber and watercress sandwiches, sans those ghastly, uncouth crusts. :pac:


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