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When will oil run out and how will this affect transport infrastructure?

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    #122
    ei.sdraob
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    http://www.iea.org/weo/docs/weo2011/WEO2011_GoldenAgeofGasReport.pdf
    * Conventional recoverable resources are equivalent to 120 years of current global consumption
    * while total recoverable resources could sustain today's production for over 250 years

    Couple the above with gas-to-liquids technology and we will be driving cars for a very very long time, phew doomsday averted :D
    And gas is useful for making fertilisers, so wont be starving much either...


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    Zubeneschamali
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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Couple the above with gas-to-liquids technology and we will be driving cars for a very very long time, phew doomsday averted :D

    One possible doomsday, the oil-runs-out-and-we've-no-fuel one, maybe, but if so, the greenhouse gas/climate change doomsday just got worse.


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    Sponge Bob
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    No it didn't :( South africa ran a coal to oil system for 40 years when internationally isolated. It was a German WW2 technology initially. Read up on SASOL.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasol


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    dubhthach
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    Sponge Bob wrote: »
    No it didn't :( South africa ran a coal to oil system for 40 years when internationally isolated. It was a German WW2 technology initially. Read up on SASOL.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sasol

    I posted abit about the German project earlier in the thread, here's the details, including an article from Popular Mechanics 1979 where it was mentioned as a popular solution to Federal gov plan to reduce imports of oil by 4.5m barrels a day by 1990 (result of oil crisis caused by Islamic revolution in Iran)
    dubhthach wrote: »
    The germans perfected synthetical crude production in the 1930's. A very large amount of the Nazis fuel supply was from turning coal into crude. There's no reason the same can't occur again, it's just that it's cheaper drilling oil out the ground. It's sort of like the Canadian Oil Sands. It's only viable when the price of crude is at a certain level as it's quite expensive process.

    Tbh the ideal longterm solution is that we switch to Hydrogen, however the technology to produce Hydrogen cheaply and in mass amounts isn't there let. Once you can produce the energy equivalent in Hydrogen of a barrel of Crude for cheaper then you can extract Crude you will start to see a switch.

    --edit--
    Links on Synthetic fuel and World War II
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergius_process
    www.caer.uky.edu/energeia/PDF/vol12_5.pdfiaYOlA&cad=rja (Germany's Synthetic Fuel Industry 1927-1945)
    http://books.google.com/books?id=ls8DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA102&lpg=PA102&dq=nazi+synthetical+fuel&source=bl&ots=scE--T3LJx&sig=V6G61apej6pUVKBFtNqsGyGxsq8&hl=en&ei=0k00TrH0MY-xhAfay_GKCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=10&ved=0CGkQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q&f=false -- Popular Mechanics November 1979


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    ei.sdraob
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    Dont they run cars on natural gas in certain european countries? No need to convert to petrol... and its cheaper much cheaper
    Anyways my heart warmed up seeing a 4.6L X5 running on LPG :D

    Zubeneschamali wrote: »
    One possible doomsday, the oil-runs-out-and-we've-no-fuel one, maybe, but if so, the greenhouse gas/climate change doomsday just got worse.

    Gas is much less polluting that oil, turf, coal since its mostly hydrogen, no point of being proud of your weakling Nissan Leaf if its being powered by coal from the likes of MoneyPoint


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    Wild Bill
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    Why


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    ei.sdraob wrote: »
    Dont they run cars on natural gas in certain european countries? No need to convert to petrol... and its cheaper much cheaper
    Anyways my heart warmed up seeing a 4.6L X5 running on LPG :D




    Gas is much less polluting that oil, turf, coal since its mostly hydrogen, no point of being proud of your weakling Nissan Leaf if its being powered by coal from the likes of MoneyPoint

    Not just in Europe, I believe that Pakistan has a large percentage of gas vehicles as well. The problems will come if there is a large scale switchover to gas, it will rapidly deplete the reserves even quicker than the oil.

    One thing for certain is the fact that the gas will be taxed to bring the cost in line with petrol, even if it's compressed from the domestic supply.


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