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David Norris - Post-Revelations

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    #752
    Biggins
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 34,567 ✭✭✭✭Biggins


    My name is URL wrote: »
    Meh, whatever about Mitchell's letter.. he's a bad choice for the role of president imo. He opposed the decriminalisation of homosexuality and more recently the equalisation of age of consent laws and abortion law reforms. He's a politician that bases many of his views on religion. A 1950's style creeping Jesus. Is that what Ireland wants in 2012?
    He's Dana without the dress on!


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    #753
    K-9
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    dvpower wrote: »
    Don't even joke about it:eek:


    Jesus - you weren't joking
    http://www.highlandradio.com/2011/08/03/dana-set-enter-race-president/

    FFS, bring back David, all is forgiven.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #754
    Biggins
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    denhaagenite wrote: »
    Ah lads, stop the presses, we're all saved now that Dana is entering the race.
    O GOOD FCUK!

    This country is going backwards instead of forwards.
    Chrirst all fcuking mighty!

    Thats two extreme religious twats now possibly running!


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    #755
    HarryPotter41
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    Android 666 wrote: »
    Total horse manure. The guy defends a double murderer with the same 'abuse of power' that Norris used and you think that's okay?

    I suppose this country gets the candidates it deserves.


    Did he hide it at the time? Was Paul Hill his partner? Did he do it on State letterheads?


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    #756
    ixoy
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    dvpower wrote: »
    He has some history is opposing the death penalty and has, as far as I know, made similar representations in the past, but obviously not in every single death penalty case.
    I'd be interested to know how many times he's pleaded for it in the US.
    His choice in picking this guy (who was unrepentant to the end) may be a bit odd, but if we're going to make this into something that should call into question his candidacy, we might as well send the bulldozers up to the park.
    Well quite. I think what gets up some people's noses a little is the fact nearly all candidates will, at some point, have made gaffes and they may not see anything close to the thousands of posts we have here. There's a few threads on this here, and on politics.ie about TDs, etc making pleas. I'd need to read up to get more details but people basically want the same rules and standards for everyone.
    As to the specifics of Norris - whether he had good intentions or not, I think his actions show how he is not suitable for office.


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    #757
    mikom
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    dvpower wrote: »
    Don't even joke about it:eek:


    Jesus - you weren't joking
    http://www.highlandradio.com/2011/08/03/dana-set-enter-race-president/

    Another one for the holy Joes to support.
    Will someone please turn off the lights on their way out.


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    #758
    HarryPotter41
    Registered Users Posts: 1,402 ✭✭✭HarryPotter41


    mikom wrote: »
    Another one for the holy Joes to support.
    Will someone please turn off the lights on their way out.


    Well the "look at me, see how liberal I am" brigade are devestated that Norris has withdrawn and they can't vote for him, surely the opposite spectrum are as entitled to have someone to try and go and represent their views?


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    #759
    KnifeWRENCH
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    Excellent! I hope she does get on the ballot; it'll split the conservative Christian vote and take more votes away from Mitchell! :D


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    #760
    mikom
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    HarryPotter41 wrote: »
    Well the "look at me, see how liberal I am" brigade are devestated that Norris has withdrawn and they can't vote for him, surely the opposite spectrum are as entitled to have someone to try and go and represent their views?


    That would be the "look at me, see how conservative I am" brigade I presume.
    Not something I'd be shouting about tbh.
    Do conservatives even shout?


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    #761
    Android 666
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    HarryPotter41 wrote: »
    Did he do it on State letterheads?

    How would I know? Strangely enough, I haven't seen the scans of Mitchell's letters they way I have with Norris'...


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    #762
    CramCycle
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    Someone should drop him an e-mail and ask can they view a copy in the interests of clarity in the presidential race. Fair is fair. Anyone have an e-mail address or does he have a FB page (I ain't signed up).


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    #763
    Biggins
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    Android 666 wrote: »
    How would I know? Strangely enough, I haven't seen the scans of Mitchell's letters they way I have with Norris'...
    The Israel forgery section hasn't got round to finishing them yet! ;)
    (They're still working on our passports!)


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    #764
    jill_valentine
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    Dana, ffs. Urgh. We could have had an intelligent, articulate, educated and progressive guy in the Aras for the next few years, and now we've got to stick a ribbon on one of this shower.

    As much as anything else, I'm angry at Norris for blowing the unique chance this represented for so many people to have a bit of faith in Irish politics for once.


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    #765
    tayto lover
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    Good Jesus if Dana enters the race i'm going to ring that Hitman for Hire number. I just could not stand that.


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    #766
    cosanostra
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    I'm surprised John Hume's name hasn't been mentioned yet isn't he Irelands greatest or something?


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    #767
    Android 666
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    All kinds of everything remind me of the godless souls that burn my eyes!!!


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    #768
    Einhard
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    General Zod wrote: »
    Norris stood down from the race, and rightly so, for writing to a foreign government on seanad headed paper pleading clemency in sentencing.

    I don't think people really cared about his intervention per se, but rather the nature of his intervention. Both the nature of Nawi's crime, and the personal link between the two men are what concerned people, IMO. That being the case, I don't think that an exact analogy can be drawn between the two instances.


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    #769
    Android 666
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    DANA: Just stand back and watch what happens because the prayers of children are so powerful.

    (Said shortly before she flew off into the atmosphere and killed Satan in a space battle!)


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    #770
    Biggins
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    My name is URL wrote: »
    Meh, whatever about Mitchell's letter.. he's a bad choice for the role of president imo. He opposed the decriminalisation of homosexuality and more recently the equalisation of age of consent laws and abortion law reforms. He's a politician that bases many of his views on religion. A 1950's style creeping Jesus. Is that what Ireland wants in 2012?
    Him or Dana... ?

    Shoot me fcuking now!


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    #771
    mikom
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    Sample twitter update:

    To show my total disapproval of Dana's candidacy, I plan to vote while wearing a condom



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    #772
    jill_valentine
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    Me too. I haven't worked out the details yet, but I feel very strongly about it.

    I think the abject terror at the prospect of President Dana should put paid to the notion that we're just after a "colourful" character.


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    #773
    Biggins
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    jill_valentine wrote: »
    I think the abject terror at the prospect of President Dana should put paid to the notion that we're just after a "colourful" character.
    Dana runs or (worse) gets in, we can no longer give out about Palin in America!

    I'm seriously depressed! We come so forward in modern thinking that still her (and Mitchell's) type of schite has to creep up yet again.
    Bloody depressing. :(


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    #774
    Happyman42
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    Biggins wrote: »
    Dana runs or (worse) gets in, we can no longer give out about Palin in America!

    I'm seriously depressed! We come so forward in modern thinking that still her (and Mitchell's) type of schite has to creep up yet again.
    Bloody depressing. :(

    I hope it's their dying battle cry.


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    #775
    mikom
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    Not content with scuppering Norris it now seems the Israelis are looking to get their candidate on the ballot......... Israeli for Irish top job.


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    #776
    denhaagenite
    Registered Users Posts: 1,169 ✭✭✭denhaagenite


    Can we change the rules and get Mary Robinson back? She was like a big mammy for the whole country.

    Who would people suggest for candidacy? Maybe if we could come up with a few ideas it might be possible to lobby people into putting themselves forward? If something isn't done there will be a load of spoiled votes, lots of non- voters and an ambassador for our country that people are not happy with at the end of all this :(.


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    #777
    deepertheroots
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    Who's Ireland's greatest euro-skeptic atm? Whoever it is should make a wonderful president in my view.


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    #778
    mikom
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    deepertheroots wrote: »
    Who's Ireland's greatest euro-skeptic atm? Whoever it is should make a wonderful president in my view.

    An excited Ganley approaches....


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    #779
    HarryPotter41
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    Android 666 wrote: »
    How would I know? Strangely enough, I haven't seen the scans of Mitchell's letters they way I have with Norris'...


    Yet you make such vivid comparison with what David Norris has done without actually seeing exactly what Mitchell did at the time.


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    #780
    HarryPotter41
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    denhaagenite wrote: »
    Can we change the rules and get Mary Robinson back? She was like a big mammy for the whole country.

    Who would people suggest for candidacy? Maybe if we could come up with a few ideas it might be possible to lobby people into putting themselves forward? If something isn't done there will be a load of spoiled votes, lots of non- voters and an ambassador for our country that people are not happy with at the end of all this :(.


    And have Mammy Robinson head off again before the end of her term when a nice shiny new job comes along? No thanks.


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    #781
    HarryPotter41
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    mikom wrote: »
    That would be the "look at me, see how conservative I am" brigade I presume.
    Not something I'd be shouting about tbh.
    Do conservatives even shout?


    Because they have beliefs that you don't agree with doesn't make them any less entitled to that opinion, there are many liberals views I believe in and there are many conservative views I believe in.


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