Roscommon GAA Discussion Thread

yabadabado

selectamatic wrote: »

Its just the cork tyrone game being televised though isn't it?

All three Saturday games are on TV.
Ros game is being shown live on RTE News Now, other 2 games on Sky.

selectamatic

yabadabado wrote: »

All three Saturday games are on TV.
Ros game is being shown live on RTE News Now, other 2 games on Sky.

Ay just seen that there.

miocicmma

Went and got tickets online straight away. Didn't want to risk it. But they seem to be still available from all the usual sources.

yabadabado

miocicmma wrote: »

Went and got tickets online straight away. Didn't want to risk it. But they seem to be still available from all the usual sources.

Very unlikely to sell out ,I'd be surprised if they aren't still available right up to throw in .

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Getting a bit jittery now about the game. On paper, we really should have enough for Armagh. Unfortunately, where Roscommon are concerned, that rarely follows through.

It's a really big game in the context of where this team is going. We've flattered to deceive in C'ship for the last few seasons. Win and we are guaranteed 3 games against top teams on big occasions which could bring this group on to the next level. If we lose, serious questions will arise, but no point in worrying about that right now.

Armagh are in as good of form as they have been in quite some time and have only lost two games this year, one of which was a dead rubber in Wexford. They blitzed Clare with 1-5 without reply to get a smash and grab win on Saturday. They're mobile and physical, which you'd expect from any McGeeney side and they have good score takers such as Grugan and their FF Murnin who will need careful attention.

Concentrate on our own performance and perform with a bit more composure than the second half against Galway and we should be there or thereabouts. It's going to be another hot day, so the substitutions might be key.

J Cheever Loophole

Roscommon represent the best team we have played this year by a considerable distance. A point has been made about us losing one meaningful game, which is true, but that one defeat was our biggest match and represented an abysmal performance - error strewn and clueless. Indeed unforced errors has been a feature of a lot of our play this last year, including the Clare game last Saturday.

The one thing we do have is a good team spirit and pride in the jersey, which stood to us last weekend and can help overcome many deficiencies. However I sense a difference in class with yerselves and one that is likely to not be overcome by pride and determination. Roscommon simply have a better team and maybe represent where we would like to be in a year or two's time.

I think (hope) we can make a game of it and I wouldn't rule out us winning, but genuinely think it is unlikley. What Armagh supporters hope for is a performance that will give hope for the future as we try to move up in the world.

For me personally, it will bring back some great memories of titanic clashes in the past - 1977 and 1980 in particular, and I'm sure I have a NFL programme from around 1980 with all the Roscommon players' signatures around that time. Must try and look it out!

nice_guy80

Roscommon always struggle v teams from Ulster (except Cavan!)

Look at Down in the league - worst team in the division but we still lost.
Fermanagh three years ago, we should have been out of sight.

rossie1977

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Roscommon always struggle v teams from Ulster (except Cavan!)

Look at Down in the league - worst team in the division but we still lost.
Fermanagh three years ago, we should have been out of sight.

To add our record in the qualifiers is awful whereas McGeeneys record at this stage with Kildare and Armagh is incredible.

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Roscommon always struggle v teams from Ulster (except Cavan!)

Look at Down in the league - worst team in the division but we still lost.
Fermanagh three years ago, we should have been out of sight.

Agreed to a degree, but we have beaten all of Down (twice), Donegal, Fermanagh and Cavan (repeatedly) in the last 3 years. Tyrone are the only Ulster team that we always struggle against.

The Down performance in this year's league was one of the flattest displays I have seen from a Roscommon team in the last few years. They stank the place out of it, whether it was from the training they had done that week or what, I'm not sure. Down couldn't believe their luck in a game they probably thought they'd struggle to get a result from with the form they were in at the time.

rossie1977

Team named for Armagh



Substitutes

16 James Featherstone (Roscommon Gaels)
17 Conor Daly (Padraig Pearses)
18 Finbar Cregg (Western Gaels)
19 Fintan Cregg (Elphin)
20 Gary Patterson (Michael Glavey’s)
21 Ian Kilbride (St Brigid’s)
22 Niall Daly (Padraig Pearses)
23 Niall Kilroy (Fuerty)
24 Padraig Kelly (St Brigid’s)
25 Shane Killoran (Elphin)
26 Tadgh McKenna (Boyle)

blazermel

Any suggestions on parking for tomorrow's match? Can you just park on the roadside near the grounds or is it restricted?

Comic Book Guy

Bloody traffic in Tullamore, looks like a good travelling support.

megadodge

Well that was a cracker! A super game of football. Or maybe I'm saying that because I always felt Roscommon were going to win. As I said before, it's hard to enjoy even a very good game if you're not neutral, because there's always the worry of some stupid mistake, etc.

The Connacht final now has to be looked at the way it was - an aberration by the Roscommon forwards. Yet again today they showed the attacking flair and finishing that we all know they are so capable of. But by the same token the collective defense were back to normal - very supect when somebody runs directly at them. The little centre-forward caused all sorts of problems every time he got the ball and ran straight towards the goal. Thankfully he tired, but that direct running through the middle is something Tyrone specialise in, especially Peter Harte and Tiernan McCann.

I thought Enda and Cathal Cregg were superb. Delighted for Cregg as he hasn't had too many good championship games over the years for some reason. Enda is beginning to dominate games around the middle the way I always hoped he could. However, a big help was also the introduction of Compton. His influence and football brain cannot be underestimated. He is so important to Roscommon.

Once again Niall McInerney was excellent. He deals with everything that comes his way in a cool, unfussy manner that is only obvious when he's marking a big name and they have a 'quiet' day. But he does it to everybody, in nearly every game.

John McManus had a very good game, but should always remember the equation 'JMC >> traffic = Ros - ball' It's scientifically proven John, just lay it off before you hit traffic! He has a great heart and really drives the team forward, while his defending is improving all the time.

Anyway, first part of the mission accomplished. Now go and perform at the higher level. F*ck the fear factor. Believe in yourselves!

megadodge

I really felt terrible for poor Ultan Harney, breaking down in the bloody warmup!

I don't know what the poor fella has to do to get back right, but I wish him all the best.

nice_guy80

megadodge wrote: »

Well that was a cracker! A super game of football. Or maybe I'm saying that because I always felt Roscommon were going to win. As I said before, it's hard to enjoy even a very good game if you're not neutral, because there's always the worry of some stupid mistake, etc.

The Connacht final now has to be looked at the way it was - an aberration by the Roscommon forwards. Yet again today they showed the attacking flair and finishing that we all know they are so capable of. But by the same token the collective defense were back to normal - very supect when somebody runs directly at them. The little centre-forward caused all sorts of problems every time he got the ball and ran straight towards the goal. Thankfully he tired, but that direct running through the middle is something Tyrone specialise in, especially Peter Harte and Tiernan McCann.

I thought Enda and Cathal Cregg were superb. Delighted for Cregg as he hasn't had too many good championship games over the years for some reason. Enda is beginning to dominate games around the middle the way I always hoped he could. However, a big help was also the introduction of Compton. His influence and football brain cannot be underestimated. He is so important to Roscommon.

Once again Niall McInerney was excellent. He deals with everything that comes his way in a cool, unfussy manner that is only obvious when he's marking a big name and they have a 'quiet' day. But he does it to everybody, in nearly every game.

John McManus had a very good game, but should always remember the equation 'JMC >> traffic = Ros - ball' It's scientifically proven John, just lay it off before you hit traffic! He has a great heart and really drives the team forward, while his defending is improving all the time.

Anyway, first part of the mission accomplished. Now go and perform at the higher level. F*ck the fear factor. Believe in yourselves!

Great win.
Ciaran Murtagh kept Ros in it in the first half.
John Mc shouldn't be allowed shoot. He tried one in the CF and again today. He's just not that type of half back.

megadodge

nice_guy80 wrote: »

Great win.
Ciaran Murtagh kept Ros in it in the first half.
John Mc shouldn't be allowed shoot. He tried one in the CF and again today. He's just not that type of half back.

I totally agree. And I suspect he has been told the same, as he doesn't even try most of the time.

The funny thing today was when he hit it and it looked like it was going over, I was thinking "if John scores we're definitely going to win".

Syferus

megadodge wrote: »

Well that was a cracker! A super game of football. Or maybe I'm saying that because I always felt Roscommon were going to win. As I said before, it's hard to enjoy even a very good game if you're not neutral, because there's always the worry of some stupid mistake, etc.

The Connacht final now has to be looked at the way it was - an aberration by the Roscommon forwards. Yet again today they showed the attacking flair and finishing that we all know they are so capable of. But by the same token the collective defense were back to normal - very supect when somebody runs directly at them. The little centre-forward caused all sorts of problems every time he got the ball and ran straight towards the goal. Thankfully he tired, but that direct running through the middle is something Tyrone specialise in, especially Peter Harte and Tiernan McCann.

I thought Enda and Cathal Cregg were superb. Delighted for Cregg as he hasn't had too many good championship games over the years for some reason. Enda is beginning to dominate games around the middle the way I always hoped he could. However, a big help was also the introduction of Compton. His influence and football brain cannot be underestimated. He is so important to Roscommon.

Once again Niall McInerney was excellent. He deals with everything that comes his way in a cool, unfussy manner that is only obvious when he's marking a big name and they have a 'quiet' day. But he does it to everybody, in nearly every game.

John McManus had a very good game, but should always remember the equation 'JMC >> traffic = Ros - ball' It's scientifically proven John, just lay it off before you hit traffic! He has a great heart and really drives the team forward, while his defending is improving all the time.

Anyway, first part of the mission accomplished. Now go and perform at the higher level. F*ck the fear factor. Believe in yourselves!

Cregger probably has more stellar championship performances than any single Roscommon player since the early 90s. The fact is he happened to be on a lot of bad Roscommon teams which he was the sole shining light of on many occasions. This fixture in 2012 would be a prime example of an utterly class performance by Cregg despite being absolutely battered by Armagh off the ball. Let’s not forget how good he has been for more than a decade just because he wasn’t on a winning team. It’s great to see him being able to enjoy being part of a good team for a change.

Comic Book Guy

To me yesterday's game was almost a must win for the continued development of what is essentially still a young team, another defeat on the back of the Galway game would have been a huge knock but as it is they now have 3 big championship games to come including playing the best team in the country will be of huge benefit going into next year with Division 1 football also to look forward to.
Delighted for each and every one of the team and management and that feeling showed in the scenes at the full time whistle.
I can imagine it was a very enjoyable game for the neutral although I had my heart in my mouth for a lot of that second half with Armagh not looking like missing the target at all.
Apologies for going back over old grond but Cregg's performance yesterday showed what a strange decision it was to give him such limited game time against Galway, probably second only to Enda Smith for me on the day.

PS. Can someone please tell radio prrsenters the proper way to pronounce The Rossies! If I hear The Rozzies one more time.....

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

Massive performance from a few of our key lads to get us over the line. Cathal Cregg gave 3 different Armagh defenders nightmares, they couldn't handle him at all. Enda Smith obviously scored 2-1 and got through a savage amount of work and fielding of the ball. He can be hot and cold, but he was definitely on his game on Saturday, particularly in the second half. Niall McInerney played well and Compton made a big difference when he came on.

I'd still be worried about our kickout strategy though. Armagh didn't try to push up on it but when they did put pressure on, we looked dodgy. You can be sure Tyrone will have taken note.

As I said, in the context of the team's development, it's great to have gotten to Super 8s. 3 games against top notch opposition, 2 of them in Croker. It'd take a very optimistic person to see a way that we'll get out of that group, but experience is what we're after here. We want that Roscommon team strutting out at Croker against Dublin in the final game believing that they belong on that stage, not to make up the numbers.

J Cheever Loophole

Just a congratulatory note to everyone here for the win on Saturday and making the Super 8s. Roscommon were deserving of victory and as I had worried were just too good for our lads. It was an excellent game of football - great attacking play - and your first goal has to already be a contender for goal of the year. Obviously both defences will have better days but that's something for Roscommon to think about going forward. We will have six months or so to reflect on it. Roscommon I thought finished the game better (fresher) and I thought got more from their substitutions than we did and ended up pulling away.

Always had a bit of a soft spot for Roscommon since our great semi-finals of '77 and '80 so would love to see you do well in the next phase. It will obviously be a big ask and you will be facing opposition way beyond ourselves, but no-one can deny that they will get value for money with your exciting style of football. I'm looking forward to it already!!

nice_guy80

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: »

Massive performance from a few of our key lads to get us over the line. Cathal Cregg gave 3 different Armagh defenders nightmares, they couldn't handle him at all. Enda Smith obviously scored 2-1 and got through a savage amount of work and fielding of the ball. He can be hot and cold, but he was definitely on his game on Saturday, particularly in the second half. Niall McInerney played well and Compton made a big difference when he came on.

I'd still be worried about our kickout strategy though. Armagh didn't try to push up on it but when they did put pressure on, we looked dodgy. You can be sure Tyrone will have taken note.

As I said, in the context of the team's development, it's great to have gotten to Super 8s. 3 games against top notch opposition, 2 of them in Croker. It'd take a very optimistic person to see a way that we'll get out of that group, but experience is what we're after here. We want that Roscommon team strutting out at Croker against Dublin in the final game believing that they belong on that stage, not to make up the numbers.

I don't know why we have to play twice in Croke Park.
Dubs with two home games
We should be demanding our game be in Parnell or Portlaoise

rossie1977

Our game with Dublin is scheduled as a home game for the Leinster champions so we couldn't ask for it to be moved outside Dublin.

Donegal are the ones with the gripe as they have to play two away games.

nice_guy80

rossie1977 wrote: »

Our game with Dublin is scheduled as a home game for the Leinster champions so we couldn't ask for it to be moved outside Dublin.

Donegal are the ones with the gripe as they have to play two away games.

So do we!
Dublin have two home games!

yabadabado

No real problem, if anyone has a gripe with it pull on the delegates that voted for it.

It's Croker ,Home and Away .just happens thats Dublin are playing their home game in Croker.

yabadabado

nice_guy80 wrote: »

I don't know why we have to play twice in Croke Park.
Dubs with two home games
We should be demanding our game be in Parnell or Portlaoise

Can't demand Portlaoise as every team is allowed a home game.Dublin have nominated Croke Park as their home game .
To spout about it now is just petty bs

SouthDublin6w

yabadabado wrote: »

Can't demand Portlaoise as every team is allowed a home game.Dublin have nominated Croke Park as their home game .
To spout about it now is just petty bs

This debate pops up every year, Dublin wont travel, not just now the super 8s are about. Its getting boring now. Dublin wouldnt be stopped in Healy park or Ballybofey nor will they be stopped in Croker.

Different venue, Same result.

nice_guy80

SouthDublin6w wrote: »

This debate pops up every year, Dublin wont travel, not just now the super 8s are about. Its getting boring now. Dublin wouldnt be stopped in Healy park or Ballybofey nor will they be stopped in Croker.

Different venue, Same result.

Roscommon have beaten Dublin in Parnell Park in the past btw.
Croke Park is your home ground as Dublin have used it for every home league game for the past 8 years

nice_guy80

If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck then....

Croke Park is in Dublin, ergo it's a home game.
So Dublin have two home games.

nice_guy80

Why is it petty?
We didn't know if Dublin would actually get into the last 8...
You know, how hard the draw was with having to play no actual proper away game in Leinster

Here's the Dublin fans every time this is brought up

Dr. Kenneth Noisewater

GAA have confirmed the other 2 fixtures.

Roscommon v Donegal is on Saturday 21st July at 5pm in the Hyde

Dublin v Roscommon is Sunday 5th August at Croke Park.


Regarding whether it is fair that Dublin get 2 home games, I agree that it is not. It's a loophole that benefits them. Croke Park is not and never will be a neutral venue when Dublin are involved. However, they have selected it as their home venue and it is us that are scheduled to play them on that day, we have to deal with it. As it happens, I doubt the venue would make a huge difference to the result, unless we got them on another mucky day in Carrick!